Will Trump be indicted ?

[sirazimuth]

Ok, so I thought I'd start a new thread now that the inevitable has happened.
Trump not convicted ...what a surprise.
But now he's out of office and no longer immune from criminal prosecution, will he be indicted?
And held accountable for his actions during his presidency (among other things) in a criminal court, rather than an impeachment trial in the senate where we all knew
it was a fore gone conclusion that the spineless retrumplican toadies would vote for acquittal, no matter what evidence the house managers presented.

[Rruchi man]

Trump not convicted ...what a surprise.

Not so much a surprise to me, despite the charge of insurrection levelled against Trump, it is quite difficult to imagine a past president in prison.

[Cnut237]

it was a fore gone conclusion that the spineless retrumplican toadies would vote for acquittal, no matter what evidence the house managers presented.

I've said it before, and this—as you say, foregone conclusion—casts it into sharp focus: two-party politics is a joke. The overriding objective is always always defend your side and attack the other side. This is the prime motivating factor in the decisions they make. Actual representation of legitimate voter interests comes a distant second.

now he's out of office and no longer immune from criminal prosecution, will he be indicted?

I would say it's unlikely. He has a huge base of support, and any consideration to prosecute him would have to weight the pros against the cons... it could lead to massive civil unrest on a scale we haven't seen before - I mean, look what happened when he lost a fair election, that was enough to provoke a small-scale coup attempt. Plus if he was convicted, how would a former president serve jail time? The logistical difficulties would seem insurmountable. Would there be secret service protection in adjoining cells? And if jail time was ruled out, then it's difficult to see how a fine would affect him, or how house arrest at Mar-a-Lago would be in any sense a punishment.

As with the impeachment, I would say that regardless of whether he is guilty of any crimes, the chance of a prosecution is extremely low.

[Tessnik]

Trump out and free.

Ok, so I thought I'd start a new thread now that the inevitable has happened.
Trump not convicted ...what a surprise.
But now he's out of office and no longer immune from criminal prosecution, will he be indicted?
And held accountable for his actions during his presidency (among other things) in a criminal court, rather than an impeachment trial in the senate where we all knew
it was a fore gone conclusion that the spineless retrumplican toadies would vote for acquittal, no matter what evidence the house managers presented.

Is there ever an evidence to show that is big enough to take the formal president to jail, I gues your answer is good as mine none for now so the house may end up swiping the Trump impeachment and trial under the carpet.

[sirazimuth]

I decided to bump this thread as it look like things are heating up now.... (about frikkin time albeit like they say...."the Wheels of justice grind slow, but grind fine”)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/05/grand-jury-trump-criminal-investigation-indictment-charges-da-vance.html

[suchmoon]

I decided to bump this thread as it look like things are heating up now.... (about frikkin time albeit like they say...."the Wheels of justice grind slow, but grind fine”)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/05/grand-jury-trump-criminal-investigation-indictment-charges-da-vance.html

Of all Trump's grifts, this one is one of my favorites:

https://time.com/5607302/donald-trump-state-park/

Bought some land for $3 million, tried to build a golf course but couldn't, then donated the land to the state and valued it at $26 million - nice tax write-off more than sufficient to cover the $3 million cost. Stiffed a consultant along the way, just for shits and giggles.

The problem is of course that he doesn't seem to have done an appraisal as IRS requires and it's very doubtful the land is worth that much, i.e. fraud.

[cmg777]

A sick part of me wishes they would kill him in jail like Epstein just so you liberals would have nothing to talk about. You can't blame a dead man for anything as they practically blamed him for all the world's woes. I think they would turn him back into a zombie just so they could have someone to blame. The only thing I really blame him for though is starting the lockdown bullsh!t and letting it run for his last year in office. He was doing good before all of that besides the Russian collusion BS which everyone ignored. I bet yall are the ones that buy high and sell low because you believe all the hype and FUD because the media is all about hype and propaganda.

[BADecker]

Did Trump do something bad? Biden and the Dem leaders are way worse. So, Trump's acquittal is like precedent for the Dems, when their turn comes.

[Mpamaegbu]

Of all Trump's grifts, this one is one of my favorites:

https://time.com/5607302/donald-trump-state-park/

Bought some land for $3 million, tried to build a golf course but couldn't, then donated the land to the state and valued it at $26 million -

Wow! What a rip-off! Honestly, I thought this type of human greed only happens with leaders in the African continent. Now I know better. Going forward, I'm still amused as to why Donald Trump is yet to be charged with inciting his supporters to disrupt the Capitol while Congress was sitting on that said day of Jan 6, 2021 in his allegation of electoral malfeasance. It goes to show that even in the supposed sane societies laws are also bent to serve certain interest. In this case, it would seem that Americans may want to prevent a record from being set — of an indicted and imprisoned ex-president. I'm sure if the case is perused properly, Donald Trump will be found wanting to have broken a law or two.

[ilovealtcoins]

I think Trump will be safe because indicting him would be a bad precedent and that could stir up political life across the country. The former presidents of the United States will be blamed.
What I don't like about Trump is that he has passively responded to COVID-19 and let the consequences be severe. Trump's tweets after running for paper sent a wave of contradictions among Americans. It's incitement to division, which I consider bad.

[BADecker]

Of all Trump's grifts, this one is one of my favorites:

https://time.com/5607302/donald-trump-state-park/

Bought some land for $3 million, tried to build a golf course but couldn't, then donated the land to the state and valued it at $26 million -

Wow! What a rip-off! Honestly, I thought this type of human greed only happens with leaders in the African continent. Now I know better. Going forward, I'm still amused as to why Donald Trump is yet to be charged with inciting his supporters to disrupt the Capitol while Congress was sitting on that said day of Jan 6, 2021 in his allegation of electoral malfeasance. It goes to show that even in the supposed sane societies laws are also bent to serve certain interest. In this case, it would seem that Americans may want to prevent a record from being set — of an indicted and imprisoned ex-president. I'm sure if the case is perused properly, Donald Trump will be found wanting to have broken a law or two.

The Capitol riots were done by Dem and Soros-paid infiltrators.

Trump was blocked by the county from building his golf course. What he did is being done by thousands of wealthy people all over the USA and the world. No greed involved. Simply smart operations. The American dream. Go after it if you want.

[TwitchySeal]

At least one grand jury is deciding now:

Prosecutor in Trump criminal probe convenes grand jury to hear evidence, weigh potential charges
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-investigation-grand-jury/2021/05/25/5f47911c-bcca-11eb-83e3-0ca705a96ba4_story.html

The fraud he committed before becoming president is likely the least of his worries though.  Cases like this seem like a great opportunity for prosecutors to get those in his inner circle to flip on him to avoid prison.  Remember, if you want to cooperate with the feds and work out a deal, you gotta share everything about any potential crime.  

Trump needs Allen Weisselberg and Rudy to be willing to go to prison for him.

[Cnut237]

Did Trump do something bad? Biden and the Dem leaders are way worse. So, Trump's acquittal is like precedent for the Dems, when their turn comes.

Can I just draw your attention to this post:

Biden is a Trump puppet, who is in there to act like he is doing things against America. But he is really following Trump's orders 100% of the time.

[Natsuu]

Did Trump do something bad? Biden and the Dem leaders are way worse. So, Trump's acquittal is like precedent for the Dems, when their turn comes.

Can I just draw your attention to this post:

Biden is a Trump puppet, who is in there to act like he is doing things against America. But he is really following Trump's orders 100% of the time.

How can you remember where and when he says such things. Also how to locate I've been wondering how can I quote his other quotes from past months when he is contradicting it in his other posts.

And I will guest he will reply similar to things like this "people made mistake as I made the mistake, i must be drunk or something" something like that.

[Cnut237]

how to locate I've been wondering how can I quote his other quotes from past months

Well, not specific to this person, but if you want to quote something crazy that you remember from months ago, for example, the phrase "a good soak with MMS (Jim Humble) will even cancel out most of the poison", then just go to that person's profile, and go back through their post history searching for the phrase or keyword that you remember. Then, when you find the post, click the quote button, copy the relevant section, and paste it into your reply.

[sirazimuth]

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How can you remember where and when he says such things. Also how to locate I've been wondering how can I quote his other quotes from past months when he is contradicting it in his other posts.

And I will guest he will reply similar to things like this "people made mistake as I made the mistake, i must be drunk or something" something like that.

Well its quite easy if you want to quote any ridiculous post by BADecker...simply go to his post history and take your pick. Anyone will do.....


OOPS.. getting off topic... my bad....
Yes, Trump will be indicted...just a matter of time.

[TwitchySeal]

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How can you remember where and when he says such things. Also how to locate I've been wondering how can I quote his other quotes from past months when he is contradicting it in his other posts.

And I will guest he will reply similar to things like this "people made mistake as I made the mistake, i must be drunk or something" something like that.

Well its quite easy if you want to quote any ridiculous post by BADecker...simply go to his post history and take your pick. Anyone will do.....


OOPS.. getting off topic... my bad....
Yes, Trump will be indicted...just a matter of time.

We should really start hashtagging some of the craziest things said that will surely be funny to look back on in the future, then you can just search for the hashtag.

#BADeckerHOF could work

Biden is a Trump puppet, who is in there to act like he is doing things against America. But he is really following Trump's orders 100% of the time.

[PrimeNumber7]

Cases like this seem like a great opportunity for prosecutors to get those in his inner circle to flip on him to avoid prison.  Remember, if you want to cooperate with the feds and work out a deal, you gotta share everything about any potential crime. 

There were many cases that Mueller's team prosecuted that were intended to do exactly this, however, Trump was never implicated in any crime.

If anyone had knowledge of Trump's crimes, it would have been Cohen, and he was unable to offer testimony implicating Trump in any kind of illegal behavior.

I think Trump will probably be indicted, but it is almost certain that the charges will be frivolous and he will ultimately prevail in court.

[BADecker]

Will Trump be indicted ?


An indictment simply means that somebody decides to make a formal accusation, and take it to court. It doesn't mean guilt or innocence. It means, Lets get to court and find out. You jokers are stupidly making so much about nothing. Even if Trump is guilty of something, his attorneys will draw it out so long, that his accusers will back off; too expensive.

[TwitchySeal]

Will Trump be indicted ?


An indictment simply means that somebody decides to make a formal accusation, and take it to court. It doesn't mean guilt or innocence. It means, Lets get to court and find out. You jokers are stupidly making so much about nothing. Even if Trump is guilty of something, his attorneys will draw it out so long, that his accusers will back off; too expensive.

A federal indictment is pretty damn serious.  They don't bring cases without overwhelming evidence, especially against a former president.  I believe the conviction rate is close to 99%, most of which are plea deals.