94 year old healthy woman gets the vaccine.

[Poker Player]

Imagine that you took a bunch of vitamin C + zinc, and some extra vitamin D,

There is no money there to be made. It is more interesting from a scientific point of view to give pharmaceutical companies many billions in profits by effectively forcing people to get vaccinated. Maybe if @oeleo stops by he will leave a couple of links about how scientifically interesting it is that pharmaceutical companies make multi-billion dollar profits and how scientifically uninteresting high levels of vitamin D are as immune system protectors.

[franky1]

Imagine that you took a bunch of vitamin C + zinc, and some extra vitamin D,

There is no money there to be made. It is more interesting from a scientific point of view to give pharmaceutical companies many billions in profits by effectively forcing people to get vaccinated. Maybe if @oeleo stops by he will leave a couple of links about how scientifically interesting it is that pharmaceutical companies make multi-billion dollar profits and how scientifically uninteresting high levels of vitamin D are as immune system protectors.

what your not realising is that badecker is actually influenced more by a group that want to make pharma profit.
pharma sell supplements to dropshippers who sell it to supplement pyramid schemes and cults.

the amount of money he wants citizens to pay on supplements for pharma manufacturers is far more than the amount that government create though quantitative easing that does not cost citizens money.
badecker wants people swallowing multiple capsules a day.. government want one prick in the arm a year.
which healthcare 'practice' seems more involved. 1/year of 3/day


badecker salivates imagining the world 'taking a bunch of vit c, zinc and some vit d.
the stupid part is that badecker is soo low on the cult of supplement salesmen pyramids that he doesnt realise he is being used as a puppet salesman. but not going to get any financial gain from it.

[BADecker]

Grandma was blessed and lucky.


NHS worker dies after receiving first dose of Pfizer vaccine

A father of four from County Durham in North East England died after receiving the first jab of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE.

Chris Moore was in lockdown for months before returning to his job as an administrator at the National Health Service (NHS) late last year. He received the first dose of the vaccine on Jan. 2 at the University Hospital of North Durham. Moore began to show symptoms two days later and tested positive for the coronavirus.

He was rushed to the hospital due to breathing difficulties. He was placed in intensive care but was later moved to a regular ward after showing signs of improvement. He relapsed shortly after and died four weeks later on Feb. 10. He is survived by his wife, Helen, and their four children, Rebecca, Daniel, James and Thomas.

His wife is not sure how he contracted COVID-19 and believes the vaccine has nothing to do with it. But studies indicate that none of the vaccines approved for use so far is 100 percent effective in preventing COVID-19, even after both doses have been administered.

Research shows that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is about 52 percent effective after just one dose. That efficacy level can go up to 95 percent after the second dose. This means that some people who have received the first jab could still be infected with COVID-19 before they come in to receive the second dose of the vaccine.

Scientists also cautioned that the first dose could take at least two to three weeks to become effective in fighting off the virus. This may explain why Moore showed symptoms shortly after he received his first dose.

A tragic death

[franky1]

the guy died of covid.
the vaccine is not even effective at the 52% first dose claim for 3-4 weeks.

he was put back to work last year which has ample oppertunity for him to get covid.
so no surprise

yep just because you shielded from march-september does not make you immune.
it means you isolated yourself to not yet get covid.

then going out and starting normal life for months then puts you at risk of getting covid
having a vaccine will help but only after weeks after having the vaccine

this is why you should still try to limit your exposure risk at first
thinking your immortal just because a government or your work place tell you to go back to work is not good enough.

personally i think those that are categorised as extreme vulnerable to be on the shielding list should not be called back to work until atleast a month after the second jab

but hey going to work was probably more of a business/economic decision not a health risk decision

..
anyway as for my personal experience of having the vaccine.
no ill effects worthy of crying about. the only thing i can think of that i felt was probably a slight pressure feeling in my arm. kind of like laying on your arm without actually laying on it or someone gripping my arm.
it happened at the just below the shoulder and just above the elbow..
2 spots.. kinda near the ends of the upper arm bones
but so slight its probably a placebo effect of me overly looking for possible negatives. definitely nothing to cry about and didnt last long.

yes im currently i'd say only 6% immune as of today. as its only been a few days of first jab using easy math. so im in no rush to expose myself maskless yet when around strangers in confined spaces(grocery store).. give it time

[Poker Player]

Grandma was blessed and lucky.

We cannot take isolated cases as if they were the general rule. I am against mandatory vaccination etc. but there aren't millions of people dying because they are getting vaccinated.

[franky1]

Grandma was blessed and lucky.

We cannot take isolated cases as if they were the general rule. I am against mandatory vaccination etc. but there aren't millions of people dying because they are getting vaccinated.

a year ago tvbcof, jetcash, tash and badecker were crying about fears of military personel breaking down doors and forcing vaccinations at gunpoint.
........ didnt happen

they also cried about vaccines turning people into mutants or patents of corporations
........ didnt happen

they also cried about vaccines being more dangerous than covid.
........ didnt happen
(vaccine: US 80mill vaccinated: 323died(0.0004%)
(covid: US 30mill infected 530k died(1.8%))

[BADecker]

Grandma was blessed and lucky.

We cannot take isolated cases as if they were the general rule. I am against mandatory vaccination etc. but there aren't millions of people dying because they are getting vaccinated.

That is completely understood. But here are the points.

- Everybody is an individual case of something after he/she has been vaccinated. No two people are the same... although some may be similar to some others.

- Every person who has been vaccinated becomes a case. None are the same, but ALL vaccinated people receive damage from the experimental non-vaccine.


The three major reason why people get sick from Covid and/or the vaccine are:
1. Some people are not nutritionally healthy;
2. The health of people who have had vaccines in the past has been compromised by those vaccines;
3. Because somebody SAID they were sick from Covid without really knowing anything about Covid or how it affects people.

Covid isn't what people say and think it is. It was never isolated so that somebody could take a look at it - for sure - in a microscope and say "this is it." And if you can't identify it, there's almost no way to determine what to do about it. That's why the medical has had so much trouble. They don't know what they are trying to protect against.

Few people understand that in all the talk about the vaccine, the benefits are directed against Covid-19. Covid-19 is the symptomatic expression of the so-called virus, SARS-CoV-2 in a person who catches the virus. Covid-19 isn't the virus itself. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus. None of the vaccines fight the virus at all! Rather, they fight the Covid-19 symptoms with the hope that the SARS-CoV-2 will somehow be eliminated and protected against at the same time.

That's how far off the medical and the vaccine are. They don't protect you from SARS-CoV-2. They only try to reduce Covid-19... the way SARS-CoV-2 looks in people, the symptoms, the Covid-19.

[franky1]

badeckers 'all people receive damage' ignores the point

a needle prick mark is technically damage. but not life changing and not something normal people cry about.
the difference is that all 80mil americans had a needle prick... but only 323died (0.0004%)

so trying to promote that vaccine kill everyone due to badecker picking out the small insignificant odd cases of death. just shows he is not taking things independently case-by case. he is trying to insinuate the small odds case of death is the same as needle prick damage case numbers

[Cnut237]

the medical hasn't really cured anything with vaccines. But maybe ignorance is bliss, right?

How about smallpox? The vaccine hasn't just saved lives, it's eradicated the disease entirely. No new cases since 1977.

https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox#eradication-of-smallpox

To date the eradication of smallpox saved millions of lives. It is impossible to know very exactly how many people would have died of smallpox since 1980 if scientists had not developed the vaccine, but reasonable estimates are in the range of around 5 million lives per year, which implies that between 1980 and 2018 around 150 to 200 million lives have been saved.

Global decline of smallpox
Global data on the number of smallpox cases is shown in the chart. Shown here is the number of reported smallpox cases worldwide from 1920 until the last case in 1977. Just the reported number of smallpox cases between 1920 and 1978 already amounted to 11.6 million cases; and that number was certainly smaller than the actual number of cases, although we do not know by how much. Even though smallpox had a high visibility and should therefore be relatively easy to document, the lack of an international organization dedicated to global health means the number of reported cases is probably substantially lower than the true number of cases. Crosby (1993) estimates that in 1967 10-15 million people were still being infected with smallpox every year while the chart on the reported cases below indicates only 132,000 for that same year. The reasons and extent of discrepancies between reported and estimated cases are discussed in our section on Data Quality.

[BADecker]

^^^ Think of it this way.

Big Pharma leaders got together with all the Fauci-style medical leaders in the world. Smallpox was going away naturally, or for other reasons. What could they do?

So they ordered their underlings to say that their vaccine was doing its job. Smallpox went away, and the medical took the credit. But it would have gone away anyway, automatically, naturally. Immune systems learn, over time, how to fight diseases.

The medical constantly takes advantage of things that happen naturally. That's how they make their money.

Then the medical found out something new... but they probably expected it. They found that if you vaccinate people enough times, their immune system gets run down, and they become susceptible to all kinds of diseases. So, vaccinate the heck out of people so that they think they need even more vaccination when their immune system becomes so weak that it can't fight the diseases any longer.

Of course, some people have figured this out, and are telling the world about the destruction Big Pharma and the medical are doing to them. So, Big Pharma had to get into the media big time. They teamed up with Google and Bill Gates to control the media. This way all you generally see is their carefully planned lies about how vaccines are saving the world.

The people who understand this, simply get their nutrition inexpensively, and remain healthy without vaccines.

[Natsuu]

^^^ Think of it this way.

Big Pharma leaders got together with all the Fauci-style medical leaders in the world. Smallpox was going away naturally, or for other reasons. What could they do?

So they ordered their underlings to say that their vaccine was doing its job. Smallpox went away, and the medical took the credit. But it would have gone away anyway, automatically, naturally. Immune systems learn, over time, how to fight diseases.

The medical constantly takes advantage of things that happen naturally. That's how they make their money.

Then the medical found out something new... but they probably expected it. They found that if you vaccinate people enough times, their immune system gets run down, and they become susceptible to all kinds of diseases. So, vaccinate the heck out of people so that they think they need even more vaccination when their immune system becomes so weak that it can't fight the diseases any longer.

Of course, some people have figured this out, and are telling the world about the destruction Big Pharma and the medical are doing to them. So, Big Pharma had to get into the media big time. They teamed up with Google and Bill Gates to control the media. This way all you generally see is their carefully planned lies about how vaccines are saving the world.

The people who understand this, simply get their nutrition inexpensively, and remain healthy without vaccines.

This kind of reasoning is outrageous HAHA.

Its kind of funny, this is.

The only way this big pharma can "manipulate" people all over the world to believe they eradicate the smallpox when its naturally dying is by science. And med students, even high school biology students can see if this is real and the truth only. Even small labs can test if the vaccines are working in eradicating small pox. So yeah, ur logic seems to be really off and funny.

[Cnut237]

^^^ Think of it this way.

Why would I think of it your way, when you've just provided a conspiracy theory with no backing data? Give me data, not opinion!

Big Pharma leaders

I'm not denying that pharmaceutical companies often engage in appalling and reprehensible practices in order to make money. Some would rather people die than drop their prices, Martin Shkreli being a particularly obnoxious example.

But this doesn't mean that vaccines don't work.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Give me data, not opinion!

They can't, because their opinions are not based in fact.

[BADecker]

^^^ Think of it this way.

Why would I think of it your way, when you've just provided a conspiracy theory with no backing data? Give me data, not opinion! - When I was a kid, I saw a superman comic book from when he was not-superbaby on planet Krypton. As a toddler, he and his parents went to the vending machines in a public cafeteria. Not-superbaby toddled over to the vending machine, looked at all the selections, and started punching buttons for the various foods. At the same time he was saying, "Me want this, and this, and this..."

That's the trouble with socialism. It makes people so that they don't know how to think and ivestigate on their own.

Big Pharma leaders

I'm not denying that pharmaceutical companies often engage in appalling and reprehensible practices in order to make money. Some would rather people die than drop their prices, Martin Shkreli being a particularly obnoxious example.

But this doesn't mean that vaccines don't work.

There aren't any viruses. "The virus is fully an exosome in every sense of the word." This is taken from a video by Dr. Andrew Kaufman. The video is found on his website - https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/. The video that is important in this can be found at -

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Another video is

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[o_e_l_e_o]

This is taken from a video by Dr. Andrew Kaufman.

Always makes me laugh when idiots cry about "bIg pHaRmA" and then link to the website of some absolute quack who is selling bottles of snake oil for hundreds of dollars.

[franky1]

That's the trouble with socialism. It makes people so that they don't know how to think and ivestigate on their own.

hypocrisy is laughable
how about research stuff yourself and dont link it unless you have researched it.
get yourself out of the hole you are in, where you feel that socialism damaged your mind and is to blame for your circumstance

you cant blame socialism for your stupidity. your stupidity is on you. accept it then do something about it. stop pointing fingers.
i know your game. copy someone elses opinion. link their crap and when its proved wrong say that you didnt say it you just re-linked it

[BADecker]

This is taken from a video by Dr. Andrew Kaufman.

Always makes me laugh when idiots cry about "bIg pHaRmA" and then link to the website of some absolute quack who is selling bottles of snake oil for hundreds of dollars.

I see that it's starting to sink in. The truth is finally coming out so that even you can understand. But if you switch to the truth, now, you won't have anything to fear from the public when they go into lynching mode. the longer you wait, the less sincere you will seem.

[BADecker]

That's the trouble with socialism. It makes people so that they don't know how to think and ivestigate on their own.

hypocrisy is laughable
how about research stuff yourself and dont link it unless you have researched it.
get yourself out of the hole you are in, where you feel that socialism damaged your mind and is to blame for your circumstance

you cant blame socialism for your stupidity. your stupidity is on you. accept it then do something about it. stop pointing fingers.
i know your game. copy someone elses opinion. link their crap and when its proved wrong say that you didnt say it you just re-linked it

You have provided all the info. I don't need to research more. Just as you can't answer the questions with real answers - and you know it - even so the medical can't answer the questions that Del Bigtree's interviews bring up, or the points that Dr. Kaufman provides.

[franky1]

bigtree and kaufman have been debunked. your ignorance, lack of understanding and your lack of memory are another few faults of yours

check your post history if you need reminding

[BADecker]

Poor guy. Probably helped a whole lot of people in his life. Loads of doctors are fighting mask freedom, even as others see the dangers. Everybody dies sometime.

In past days, when we still were fighting with swords and spears, did the spears ever have hollow handles? Did the soldiers inject the people they jabbed? Modern warfare has figure out not only this, but how to deceive the soldiers into killing their friends rather than their enemies... and finally, even themselves.

Gotta give our enemies credit. We never saw this one coming. Guns and war machines are useless against this strategy. I.G. Farben came into the US from Frankfurt, Germany, in WW2... and took over way back then. Now they are out in the open in the form of Big Pharma.


Doctor who mocked coronavirus vaccine refusers dies days after getting jabbed

The official story is that Dr. Rogiewicz died of "heart failure," but it is painfully obvious that he suffered the most serious adverse event of all associated with the vaccine: death.

While he was getting injected, a masked Dr. Rogiewicz arrogantly told the camera:

"Vaccinate yourself to protect yourself, your loved ones, friends and also patients."

He went on to make fun of "anti-vaxxers" and "anti-coviders" who take issue with the fact that Chinese virus vaccines have never been long-term safety tested, nor are their manufacturers liable in the event of injury or death.

"And to mention quickly, I have info for anti-vaxxers and anti-coviders," he stated in Polish. "If you want to contact Bill Gates, you can do this through me. I can also provide for you from my organism the 5G network. I am sorry I hadn't spoke for a bit but I was just getting autism."

Dr. Rogiewicz thought he was being funny with these cringeworthy comments, but little did he know that the joke would be ultimately on him. Within just a few short days, Bill Gates' experimental gene therapy injection ended Dr. Rogiewicz's life.