Effect Of Plagiarism In Forum.

[Mayorluke]

The word plagiarism is coin out from two Greek words " pla" meaning "USE" giarism meaning "ANOTHER" then plagiarism in a nutshell is process of using  another person work or language in project to gain balance.Though it is an not recommendable for one to use another work to rate his/her work in any level of service because the effects it yielded is of negative logarithm base on the fact that the authenticity of the project creator is in doubts.
Plagiarism is character impersonator which can spoil or condemn one image in a particular society or forum at large,As a newbie or a beginner in a bitcoin forum you should beable to be creatives on your own rather than plagiarize so as for us not to be ruin down in terms of nourishable informations and innovative programmes that will take this forum to a greater heights.
The effects plagiarism has on newbie or beginner in a bitcoin forum are as follows;
1.It will make us as a beginner to be less creatives in term of innovative ideas and informations which is the world controllable power.
2.Does not create a researchable mindset in a forum.
3.It makes us to be lazy because we have other people work to copy
If a beginner can do away with all these plagiarism effects it has on them,l think they can build their confidence and also add beauty to post in eash dashboard as far as bitcoin forum is concern.

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[TheBeardedBaby]

Plagiarism here is "punished" quite strictly and the sentence is Ban! The ban is personal and you cannot create new accounts except to discuss your BAN and only in Meta.
Every other case of creating accounts while banned is just "ban evading" and your account will be banned again. For every new ban evading case you'll have to pay so called "evil fee" to create a new account which will keep increasing if you get more BANz.

So basically,  plagiarism is not welcomed here.

Newbies, read the RULEZ

[zasad@]

You registered on the forum 3 days ago and are already writing about plagiarism.
Plagiarism that is prohibited on the forum is not the same plagiarism that is written about on Wikipedia or in the law.
The forum does not prohibit the use of other people's words or thoughts, but you must at least put a link, and as a maximum, indicate the author and write the text in quotation marks.
It is forbidden to pass off someone else's text as your own - this is plagiarism.
This does not apply to pictures.

Thank you all for your answers, I think the discussion of this issue has been exhausted. / Below is the answer by mprep (Global Moderator).

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images?

AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.

Thank you, can I quote you?

Feel free.

[Pmalek]

It is forbidden to pass off someone else's text as your own - this is plagiarism.
This does not apply to pictures.

The plagiarism rule doesn't apply to pictures because the picture itself contains evidence of its origin. If I were to post the below image, I am not trying to misrepresent it as my own creation. If you quoted my post, you would see this link that leads to where I got it from.  



The only way a post like that could be a case of plagiarism is if I said something like: how do you guys like this funny strip that I created today?
There were cases where members posted stolen content in the Bitcointalk 10th anniversary art contest and those are obvious cases of plagiarism no matter how they were acted upon by the administration.  

[ShowOff]

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This does not apply to pictures.

I skipped that rule beforehand and I really believe plagiarism applies to image too so I've linked to the image at the source on several occasion.

OP, do you know what are the most common reason why Bitcoin forum users have been banned so far?
Most of the users banned case are due to plagiarism and maybe you won't be banned now that the mod didn't find any valid evidence. But you will still be banned if someone find evidence which is then reported to the mod. However, it is a fact that plagiarism is the thing most often done by users, especially those who do not understand the rules of the forum.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Plagiarism need to have a set of criteria to define it. It depends on the laws in your nation, in the forum you are using, in the university you are studying. It is different so simply spend time to read rules.

[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism

In this forum, the admin does not bind with strict criteria on what is plagiarism and members can have a second chance after the ban from plagiarism with some requirement of their contributions and net effects.

If you ignore the rules, copy and paste to steal works of others and get money, when you get a permanent ban, you can not make any ban appeal as you will only be able to show that your past contributions are copy and paste, opinion steal and zero net effect.

In general, I'm all for being lenient. There are users who have been temp banned many times but still haven't been permabanned because their contributions outweigh their misbehavior. I actively disbelieve in the idea of a "rule of law" where hard rules exist and are strictly applied across the board as if we're all robots. Every case should be considered individually in the context of the forum's mission.

Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts.

in extreme cases could be copyright theft?

Plagiarism is almost always a copyright violation which could conceivably get the poster in a lot of trouble, but it's not a bigger legal issue for the forum than anything else. (Using the forum to violate copyright is never allowed, though.)

when copying and pasting from the net can it lower google rankings? and internal copy and past could do the same thing?

That's not a particular concern of mine.

even memes may soon constitute copyright theft

Only in the EUSSR.

[nullius]

STOP MAKING UP FALSE INFORMATION.  Your etymology is totally wrong:

The word plagiarism is coin out from two Greek words " pla" meaning "USE" giarism meaning "ANOTHER"

Via “plagiary”, the word “plagiarism” derives from Latin plagarius < plagium, ‘kidnapping’.

In academic terms, you are full of shit.

Also, this is off-topic in Beginners & Help.  What has it to do with learning about Bitcoin!?

[Mayorluke]

Thank you for the correction but the manner you used in correcting me portray an harsh tag as if to correct impression now is a taboo.
Correction was meant to spur up one urge on a particular task ratther than discourage the person in putting his/her best so as to improve, everybody is prone to mistakes.
Thank you anyways for the correction,l appreciate.

[AniviaBtc]

Plagiarism can really destroy the legitimacy and reputation of this forum so it is essential to avoid that and build your own thoughts.

It is not that hard to cite a certain information and it is not hassle to do that so don't waste your time copy pasting to something that is not worth to read.

Once you got caught then it depends on some people if they will just warn you or they will punish you here in this forum so always make your own thoughts into a sentence or as soon as possible, cite or include references. If you don't know how to cite then just research and learn about it so that we can keep a healthy discussion and information here.

[Rikafip]

The only way a post like that could be a case of plagiarism is if I said something like: how do you guys like this funny strip that I created today?
There were cases where members posted stolen content in the Bitcointalk 10th anniversary art contest and those are obvious cases of plagiarism no matter how they were acted upon by the administration.  

Yeah, forum administration not doing anything about the cases where members claimed to make a painting while they just used another person's work really baffles me.

People are getting perma banned for copying few sentences without providing the source while someone can freely start the topic and claim to make a painting and when caught, absolutely nothing will happen to him(beside getting tagged by other DT members) like in this case that I reported few months ago. I honestly don't understand the logic behind it (or lack of it).

[icopress]

Yeah, forum administration not doing anything about the cases where members claimed to make a painting while they just used another person's work really baffles me.

As a matter of fact, after reading this thread, I immediately remembered about the thread you created dedicated to bitcoinermatt. Although the administration, represented by the moderators, did not ban this user out of formality, such cases still deserve a vote of no confidence. So everything is in our hands, (this is not one of those cases when you can refer to the fact that the feedback system is created for trading risks only).

Hello everyone, I made a Bitcoin Drawing a while back and kind of forgot about it. Let me know what you think about it. Here it is:

[Findingnemo]

What is the purpose of copy paste someone else work and claiming that your has no real benefits and its like a cheating that is why bitcointalk gives permaban when someone found involved in plagiarism. But as long as they are copying and adding their own view about the article they wanted to share and also leaving the source link is acceptable and not punishable.

[Upgrade00]

The plagiarism rule doesn't apply to pictures because the picture itself contains evidence of its origin. If I were to post the below image, I am not trying to misrepresent it as my own creation. If you quoted my post, you would see this link that leads to where I got it from.  

The link would only appear if you insert the link directly from the website into the image tag, but if I were to download the same image and upload it on some other platform like imgur, it will not show any link to the original source Here's the link you would get -

Code:

https://i.imgur.com/Fssg7Uo.jpg

And here's the image:
Plagiarism does apply to images cause it can be stolen, but it's difficult to prove, probably the reason why it is not strictly enforced.

[Pmalek]

The link would only appear if you insert the link directly from the website into the image tag, but if I were to download the same image and upload it on some other platform like imgur, it will not show any link to the original source.

I have seen members do that a lot. They upload an image to imgur to take advantage of imgur's quick resizing options. As you know, Bitcointalk doesn't have resizing buttons available when you create new posts. You would need to know the codes by heart to resize your images properly. Imgur, on the other hand, allows you to use the original size as well as different thumbnail and square sizes. 

Plagiarism does apply to images cause it can be stolen, but it's difficult to prove, probably the reason why it is not strictly enforced.

Like I said in my previous post, I wouldn't consider posting an image as an act of plagiarism unless it's clear from the post that the author is trying to make the public think the image or artwork was created by him.   

[Rikafip]

Plagiarism does apply to images cause it can be stolen, but it's difficult to prove, probably the reason why it is not strictly enforced.

On bitcointalk, even if you prove image plagiarism, and plagiarist admits it, he still won't get banned, like in this case Shouldn't this be treated as an obvious plagiarism case?. Can;t be more blatant that that, with all the evidence needed, yet user avoided ban. Yet, if he copied some insignificant sentence, he would end up getting banned. Doesn't make much sense to me, but it is what it is.

I have seen members do that a lot. They upload an image to imgur to take advantage of imgur's quick resizing options. As you know, Bitcointalk doesn't have resizing buttons available when you create new posts. You would need to know the codes by heart to resize your images properly.

Isn't image resizing on bitcointalk pretty simple and straightforward? You just add either width or height number in that "[Img width/height=xyz]" bracket and thats about it? Like 2 seconds work.

[Upgrade00]

As you know, Bitcointalk doesn't have resizing buttons available when you create new posts.

I'm aware there is no specific button for resizing, but entering a text into the image tags would adjust the image sized, such as what k used in the image linked above:

Code:

[img height=120]https://i.imgur.com/Fssg7Uo.jpg[/img][hr]

Not sure if it's what you're referring to.

On bitcointalk, even if you prove image plagiarism, and plagiarist admits it, he still won't get banned

It could be the mods prefer not to interfere in image plagiarism as it's a grey area, so they rather avoid making a decision. It would be better to hear directly from a mod, if it's a ban-able offense.

[Rikafip]

It could be the mods prefer not to interfere in image plagiarism as it's a grey area, so they rather avoid making a decision. It would be better to hear directly from a mod, if it's a ban-able offense.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too, they simply don't wanna open that pandora box or set any kind of precedent on image plagiarism, no matter how obvious it is, and no matter the evidence.  After all, that's why I probably didn't get any feedback from forum staff on that case.

I wonder if it would end up the same way if someone copied image from someone on the forum, and claim to be his own.

[Pmalek]

Isn't image resizing on bitcointalk pretty simple and straightforward? You just add either width or height number in that "[Img width/height=xyz]" bracket and thats about it? Like 2 seconds work.

Not really. It's simple if you know about it. Where did you get the info from the first time you used those image codes? You either saw it somewhere, asked someone and then memorized the code or saved it somewhere for future use. I am pretty sure not everyone knows about those image tags and just adds the images in their original size or uses another service for resizing like Imgur.

[Rikafip]

It's simple if you know about it. Where did you get the info from the first time you used those image codes? You either saw it somewhere, asked someone and then memorized the code or saved it somewhere for future use. I am pretty sure not everyone knows about those image tags and just adds the images in their original size or uses another service for resizing like Imgur.

Same can be said about image upload on imgur (or anything else for that matter). I am pretty sure that not everyone knows about it, and those that know, probably had to ask someone, or maybe saw it somewhere.

I know that not everyone knows about this way to resize the images, but somehow I thought that this is pretty much common knowledge for anyone with some forum experience.

[KingsDen]

The word plagiarism is coin out from two Greek words " pla" meaning "USE" giarism meaning "ANOTHER"

Please how did you land at this? It seems organized but it is passing a wrong information. It the act of teaching people the wrong thing. I think plagiarism is better than what you have committed. Let me not just conclude because you might be correct from your angle when you prove it.

The word "Pla" in in Greek does not mean "Use" and I don't think there is a word like "Giarism" in Greek. Infact to set the record straight, Plagiarism is gotten from a Latin word not Greek "Plagiare" which means to Kidnap.
Please how did you get your thesis?