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Question: Who will win this Fight?
Cotto - 24 (63.2%)
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Draw - 2 (5.3%)
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April 02, 2021, 07:08:13 PM
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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.
Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

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April 02, 2021, 09:34:08 PM
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Cotto is leading the voting with 11-9... I guess everyone wants to see this as I can see they are participating in the voting.

but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.
Exactly, and there will be no more exhibibition fights without the support of the people, both Macquez and Cotto have big fans, so probably they are willing to pay to watch this exhibition game, less pressure to them, maybe less money than usual as well.
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April 02, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
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This is a surprise:

Miguel Cotto vs. Juan Manuel Marquez Exhibition Clash in Play For June 12

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Multiple sources have informed BoxingScene.com that the pair of former four-division titlists are due to meet in an exhibition bout on June 12 from a location to be determined. Details on the event have yet to be confirmed other than that an announcement from both parties is expected in the coming days.

https://www.boxingscene.com/miguel-cotto-vs-juan-manuel-marquez-exhibition-clash-play-june-12--156534

Oh well, retired boxers are now on the exhibition match. I think this fight should have happened when they are still fighting, Pacquiao has the luxury to fight these two legendary boxers, specially Marquez. Information is sketchy at this point.

Perhaps Cotto will be the slight favourite here.
At least this is a decent exhibition fight, Marquez and Cotto are both former world champions and both were very good so even if they are retired this should be a better fight than the ones we see with boxers starting out their careers, I wonder if they are going to use protection because there is no point in risking themselves so late during their lives when they are already retired and so far they both seem to be in good health.

No, I doubt that they are going to used head gears, Mike Tyson and Roy Jones didn't use any during their fight, they are much older that Cotto and Marquez. But, they definitely adjust and will get a heavier gloves, 12 ouches. The heavier the gloves is, the better protection for their hand and from damaging their opponents, (not a knock out gloves).

But I agree that this is so far the most decent exhibition fight, as compare to Floyd's.

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April 03, 2021, 12:46:16 AM
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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.
Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

This is pure for fun I believed as this is an exhibition, we just have to see them fight again, we have been robbed of this fight in their prime, so at least we will see them one last time and only speculate what could have happen if they face in a real boxing match.

So no knockout, and I'm sure this two boxers are also going to enjoy their fight. Both are legendaries and HOF'ers fighters.

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April 03, 2021, 09:09:35 AM
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Two old heads in boxing going for an exhibition match sounds like fun. I do not expect explosive power from these two anymore since they're way past their prime (especially Marquez) though I still expect to see a good bout especially on their footwork and how they carry themselves in the ring. In terms of raw power, I'd place my bet on Cotto. He's a good all-rounder too, and excels mostly on speed. A good match, I should say, and perhaps a good match to throw a couple bucks at and just enjoy the show.
Almost all people who do made up some post on this thread do look negatively for these kind of exhibition fights but it turns out to be totally opposite for you and youre enjoying it instead.
When it comes to power then i would really be favoring Cotto but i cant really just ignore on how well Marquez is even though this is an exhibition match and theyre already past
their prime but this one would be entertaining but i do agree with people words on here that exhibition matches becomes the trend now.

This is pure for fun I believed as this is an exhibition, we just have to see them fight again, we have been robbed of this fight in their prime,
I also believe its pure fun but at what part are we robbed during their fight?
What particular fight because AFAIR, both have not fought each other before although both fought Mayweather.

so at least we will see them one last time and only speculate what could have happen if they face in a real boxing match.

So no knockout, and I'm sure this two boxers are also going to enjoy their fight. Both are legendaries and HOF'ers fighters.

Let's see but I would still bet for a KO win from a player of my choice if there's a great odds for that.

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April 04, 2021, 01:27:15 AM
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Generally speaking, I think it is hard to make a bet and analyze an exhibition match compared to a real professional match. You cannot just take into consideration their power, strength, athleticism, etc because they are just playing boxing.

There may still be a desire to win but that is not as strong as that which is coming from a professional and young fighter who is still very hungry to make a better record. To these retired men, for as long as they get paid everything's good.

I agree we should not expect a big thing in this exhibition match, there's really nothing at stake here, they should enjoy the match they are aged boxers and there's no expectation of coming back again to fight again in a real boxing match, there could be a stipulation that they should not hurt each other or even score a knockout, there's a big difference fighting now, then their heydays.

In matches as such this one, and perhaps for the big majority of exhibition matches, betting should be reduced to the minimum, if at all.

These old boxers are not on a rivalry right now. They are not on a hot competition for a belt, a record, a ranking, a reputation, etc.

For sure, we can hardly appreciate Cotto and Marquez's exhibition match if we are expecting them to be nearly as explosive as before. They will even be wearing a head protective gear for this one.

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^^ I agree on some parts, specially about them not on any level or rivalry, or in a competition for a belt. This is just for their fans to enjoy the fight while it last.

The only thing that I don't agree is wearing any head gear, again, we've seen older fighters like the recent Tyson vs Jones, without any head gear. Tyson can still punch, Roy Jones admitted that he felt the power, but they fight without any head protection and I'm sure either Cotto or Marquez doesn't want any.

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April 04, 2021, 08:43:19 AM
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No, I doubt that they are going to used head gears,
^ Probably they will not but surely they will use large gloves to minimize the speed of the punch that won't give them a hard pain.
A boxing exhibition match like this is totally different if we compared to the belt competition, you can see that there is a real fight in the match because they are fighting hard and protecting their belt. But this, just only for entertainment, and probably the match is manipulated to them and bettors will probably at risk. Nevertheless, in this match, I am in favor of Cotto.
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April 04, 2021, 09:13:36 AM
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I think this Exhibition match has been inspired by the Roy Jones Jr./Mike Tyson exhibition match last year.

With them not in their prime anymore, I'm a bit curious about how they will be inside the boxing ring knowing that they retired for quite some time already. Seems like they are just doing this for entertainment purposes since they already saw some exhibition boxing fights too like they RJJ/Tyson fight and the Jake Paul/Nate Robinson celebrity exhibition match. This may end up in a draw too like what happened in the last exhibition match Cheesy.

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April 04, 2021, 09:47:56 AM
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I think this Exhibition match has been inspired by the Roy Jones Jr./Mike Tyson exhibition match last year.

With them not in their prime anymore, I'm a bit curious about how they will be inside the boxing ring knowing that they retired for quite some time already. Seems like they are just doing this for entertainment purposes since they already saw some exhibition boxing fights too like they RJJ/Tyson fight and the Jake Paul/Nate Robinson celebrity exhibition match. This may end up in a draw too like what happened in the last exhibition match Cheesy.

Jones and Tyson are old, so it's nice to see them in an exhibition fight, the case of Marquez vs Cotto is different, they just retired few years ago when they can still actually fight so I guess it will not create much buzz. Marquez were popular because of his fighs with Pacquiao especially the last fight where he beat Pacquiao by a one punch KO, but that was it, Pacquiao did not quit and has become a champion again.

They just make sure it will not be near the scheduled fight of Pacquiao vs Crawford so they would at least make some good income.

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April 04, 2021, 01:05:34 PM
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^^ I agree on some parts, specially about them not on any level or rivalry, or in a competition for a belt. This is just for their fans to enjoy the fight while it last.

The only thing that I don't agree is wearing any head gear, again, we've seen older fighters like the recent Tyson vs Jones, without any head gear. Tyson can still punch, Roy Jones admitted that he felt the power, but they fight without any head protection and I'm sure either Cotto or Marquez doesn't want any.

I have no idea whether there is a specific clause in their match agreement which states that both fighters are required to wear a head protective gear. There may be such a condition, there may be not. I guess it will depend on both of them. But I am expecting that the rules for this one will be tailored fit for old retired boxers who are more prone to injuries and who will probably suffer more should such injuries are inflicted. The rounds may be shortened, gloves thicker or more padded, etc.

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^^ I agree on some parts, specially about them not on any level or rivalry, or in a competition for a belt. This is just for their fans to enjoy the fight while it last.

The only thing that I don't agree is wearing any head gear, again, we've seen older fighters like the recent Tyson vs Jones, without any head gear. Tyson can still punch, Roy Jones admitted that he felt the power, but they fight without any head protection and I'm sure either Cotto or Marquez doesn't want any.

I have no idea whether there is a specific clause in their match agreement which states that both fighters are required to wear a head protective gear. There may be such a condition, there may be not. I guess it will depend on both of them. But I am expecting that the rules for this one will be tailored fit for old retired boxers who are more prone to injuries and who will probably suffer more should such injuries are inflicted. The rounds may be shortened, gloves thicker or more padded, etc.

We will see if there is something like this from what both camps signed from the contract! Looking from what the post above you, that's something to think as older fighters fought without any protected head gears.

It's funny as both fighters are not that old to think of something like this, they still have the speed and the strength to stand still
if ever that they'll been hit that hard, not sure if fans will buy that idea knowing this two from their past fights really got the balls
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April 04, 2021, 08:41:46 PM
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The only thing that I don't agree is wearing any head gear, again,

It was maybe proposed because both Cotto and Marquez are still in shape. They just retired from boxing not too long ago so their usual boxing power is still there.

Without protective gear, and if things go serious, the fight might become bloodied so instead of the supposed entertainment purposes that's why it's an exhibition match, it will now become a usual boxing fight like fighting with the title.

But I doubt both boxers will go serious so it's good instead to see them fighting without any protective gear.
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No, I doubt that they are going to used head gears,
^ Probably they will not but surely they will use large gloves to minimize the speed of the punch that won't give them a hard pain.
A boxing exhibition match like this is totally different if we compared to the belt competition, you can see that there is a real fight in the match because they are fighting hard and protecting their belt. But this, just only for entertainment, and probably the match is manipulated to them and bettors will probably at risk. Nevertheless, in this match, I am in favor of Cotto.
Even if the gloves are bit thinner but still they are aware that this isnt a belt competition which means that they wont really be giving out their best to knock down their opponent.

The purpose of these exhibition fights is to give out some entertainment to the fans but these fights doesnt really give out that much of interests knowing that they
arent giving out their best.

I dont know if this one would be having some odds for us to bet on because most exhibition match doesnt have.

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April 04, 2021, 08:57:48 PM
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Without protective gear, and if things go serious, the fight might become bloodied so instead of the supposed entertainment purposes that's why it's an exhibition match, it will now become a usual boxing fight like fighting with the title.

But I doubt both boxers will go serious so it's good instead to see them fighting without any protective gear.
Well, many people don't like to see if the fighter has a protective gear on the face or even a boxer wears a dress inside the ring.
If this will happen to this fight so perhaps other exhibition fight match will do the same which very awkward to watch at will perhaps not getting interested to the viewers. However, regarding this exhibition fight, I believed Cotto will win since he is very strong than the Marquez side --by the way, in which betting sites this match have to place a bet? And is there already an odds to them?









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April 05, 2021, 04:23:35 AM
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Without protective gear, and if things go serious, the fight might become bloodied so instead of the supposed entertainment purposes that's why it's an exhibition match, it will now become a usual boxing fight like fighting with the title.

But I doubt both boxers will go serious so it's good instead to see them fighting without any protective gear.
Just because it is an exhibition fight doesn't mean that that they don't have to get serious, this isn't the Olympics so I think that a mouthpiece and gloves will suffice as a protection in this exhibition match, and they are also hardened fighters so a protective gear is an insult in my opinion to their pride.

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April 05, 2021, 05:38:41 AM
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Without protective gear, and if things go serious, the fight might become bloodied so instead of the supposed entertainment purposes that's why it's an exhibition match, it will now become a usual boxing fight like fighting with the title.

But I doubt both boxers will go serious so it's good instead to see them fighting without any protective gear.
Just because it is an exhibition fight doesn't mean that that they don't have to get serious, this isn't the Olympics so I think that a mouthpiece and gloves will suffice as a protection in this exhibition match, and they are also hardened fighters so a protective gear is an insult in my opinion to their pride.

Yeah! I don't think this fight will gonna be the last one we saw when they were in their prime like we used to see when we were young. I think this exhibition match will be just some warm-up-like fight because these guys' popularity is still there and there will be a large number of people that will gonna watch this. they will surely earn some money and popularity with this. If ever they have any plan to run for any government officials, they will get some supporters with this upcoming fight.
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April 05, 2021, 06:16:19 AM
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Without protective gear, and if things go serious, the fight might become bloodied so instead of the supposed entertainment purposes that's why it's an exhibition match, it will now become a usual boxing fight like fighting with the title.

But I doubt both boxers will go serious so it's good instead to see them fighting without any protective gear.
Just because it is an exhibition fight doesn't mean that that they don't have to get serious, this isn't the Olympics so I think that a mouthpiece and gloves will suffice as a protection in this exhibition match, and they are also hardened fighters so a protective gear is an insult in my opinion to their pride.

Yeah! I don't think this fight will gonna be the last one we saw when they were in their prime like we used to see when we were young. I think this exhibition match will be just some warm-up-like fight because these guys' popularity is still there and there will be a large number of people that will gonna watch this. they will surely earn some money and popularity with this. If ever they have any plan to run for any government officials, they will get some supporters with this upcoming fight.

lol.. why everything has a political purpose? I guess it's only Manny Pacquiao is doing that and it was an effective strategy, be a popular boxer then run for politics. Macquez and Cotto are both popular in their respective country, they don't need to fight just to gain supporters in the election, they can already do it now as they have the fame and money.

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April 05, 2021, 06:42:57 AM
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Without protective gear, and if things go serious, the fight might become bloodied so instead of the supposed entertainment purposes that's why it's an exhibition match, it will now become a usual boxing fight like fighting with the title.

But I doubt both boxers will go serious so it's good instead to see them fighting without any protective gear.
Just because it is an exhibition fight doesn't mean that that they don't have to get serious, this isn't the Olympics so I think that a mouthpiece and gloves will suffice as a protection in this exhibition match, and they are also hardened fighters so a protective gear is an insult in my opinion to their pride.

Yeah! I don't think this fight will gonna be the last one we saw when they were in their prime like we used to see when we were young. I think this exhibition match will be just some warm-up-like fight because these guys' popularity is still there and there will be a large number of people that will gonna watch this. they will surely earn some money and popularity with this. If ever they have any plan to run for any government officials, they will get some supporters with this upcoming fight.

lol.. why everything has a political purpose? I guess it's only Manny Pacquiao is doing that and it was an effective strategy, be a popular boxer then run for politics. Macquez and Cotto are both popular in their respective country, they don't need to fight just to gain supporters in the election, they can already do it now as they have the fame and money.

they are better in the ring, they've grown old and built their career in boxing all their life. politics is another field, i don't think they'd last there unless they have the management and experience in local politics. Manny Pacquiao gained a local position at first before running for the national position but even so, he still didn't escape the war in politics. i don't think he will ever win the next election. the people who are in the background who truly run the country will just make him a puppet.

Cotto and Marquez may run for a position but their lack of experience will just make them unqualified. it requires a network of both sides like the DEMO and REP and then taking responsibilities for the decisions and the magnitude of it is too much of a burden. their rivals will just laugh at them. it's a different game than boxing.


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April 05, 2021, 06:52:33 AM
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I think this exhibition match will be just some warm-up-like fight because these guys' popularity is still there and there will be a large number of people that will gonna watch this. they will surely earn some money and popularity with this. If ever they have any plan to run for any government officials, they will get some supporters with this upcoming fight.
I mean, isn't that how exhibition match is supposed to work, yes you are serious but you also have to be entertaining, and they are guaranteed with money in this fight, what else could be the reason that they are accepting this exhibition match. Dude, it doesn't have to be political but you're right that they can use this to make a name for them in the political realm if they want to.

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