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April 13, 2021, 02:47:06 AM
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Seriously, they're going to have an exhibition match? these fighters had a match with Pacquiao before and that's good to see that they'll be having their exhibition match.
I guess other retired players can still go back into the ring if they want to just for an exhibition.

If they still want to dance in the Ring and they still have those bodies that can take some power punches, why not. After all, these guys are one of the best fighters of their time. Now that they want to try again in the ring as an entertainer, then they need to give their best since their fight is not free to watch. I think more of those boxers who still in the shape to box will gonna have their exhibition match after this fight. The outcome of this fight will result in their decision whether they coming back or not.

I don't think so mate, this is jus an exhibition match AKA money making scheme for retired boxers and not a gauge for them to come back to competitive boxing.
Yes, again Floyd and then Tyson vs Jones. Now boxers are making this exhibition match to make money and I doubt that either Cotto or Marquez will come out of retirement is this pandemic boxing era.

I just don't know what got into them but this series of exhibition match is making boxing looks like a circus and i don't think that we deserve this one as hardcore fan of boxing.
Well it's a business when boxing started to have boxing promoters like Don King and Bob Arum. Although we have seen a lot of good fights, yet there could be a lot of good fights that could have happen if not for the epidemic.

they are picking the boxers who had accomplished greatness in the past and have huge fans that are willing to pay to watch them for an exhibition fight. Tyson has the biggest fan of all i guess. this is just for money ofc as it's business for arum and king. there is no belt involve here. but then they have to make money for there is the need to. if they could just make the Pacquiao vs Marquez fight possible, they will do it to make money. sadly Marquez isn't going to give Pacquiao a chance.



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April 15, 2021, 04:53:26 PM
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But lets just see this fight for sure will give a time to watch this bout since this two fighter are quite good opponent of Pacman.

Fans would easily remember these two fighters as two great opponent of Pacman, particularly Marquez where he fought a series of fight but in the end it was Marquez who won but just due to a lucky punch, a one time punch KO. Some even say that Marquez is a coward for not giving Pacman a chance for a rematch even if he was offered with big money.

check this news out. https://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-reveals-he-rejected-100-million-fifth-pacquiao-bout--123560
I saw that fight and I do not see how people can say that it was a lucky punch, there is footage of Marquez training that particular punch against their sparrings, Pacquiao had already fell before that punch in a previous round and you can see that Marquez is specifically waiting for Manny to come to him and try to deliver that punch, it was not a lucky punch it was a successful strategy that was implemented perfectly at the right place and the right time.
Maybe it was a lucky punch in the sense that Marquez was already losing the fight but he was able to do the right timing to KO Pacman. If Pacman was more careful and he did not go for a kill instead, that would give an easy win for him as he was faster and stronger than Marquez, but things happened, no excuses and we have to give that win whether by luck or not.
I will give you that, Marquez won the first rounds but then Pacquiao made a comeback, however it was obvious that he was in way better shape than Marquez as Pacquiao already won that round as well, however he was aggressive but as we know that is one of the characteristics that makes Pacquiao such a great fighter, Marquez was able to take advantage of this and used that aggressivity against him and was able to knock him out with a single punch.
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April 15, 2021, 05:19:42 PM
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But lets just see this fight for sure will give a time to watch this bout since this two fighter are quite good opponent of Pacman.

Fans would easily remember these two fighters as two great opponent of Pacman, particularly Marquez where he fought a series of fight but in the end it was Marquez who won but just due to a lucky punch, a one time punch KO. Some even say that Marquez is a coward for not giving Pacman a chance for a rematch even if he was offered with big money.

check this news out. https://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-reveals-he-rejected-100-million-fifth-pacquiao-bout--123560
I saw that fight and I do not see how people can say that it was a lucky punch, there is footage of Marquez training that particular punch against their sparrings, Pacquiao had already fell before that punch in a previous round and you can see that Marquez is specifically waiting for Manny to come to him and try to deliver that punch, it was not a lucky punch it was a successful strategy that was implemented perfectly at the right place and the right time.
Maybe it was a lucky punch in the sense that Marquez was already losing the fight but he was able to do the right timing to KO Pacman. If Pacman was more careful and he did not go for a kill instead, that would give an easy win for him as he was faster and stronger than Marquez, but things happened, no excuses and we have to give that win whether by luck or not.
I will give you that, Marquez won the first rounds but then Pacquiao made a comeback, however it was obvious that he was in way better shape than Marquez as Pacquiao already won that round as well, however he was aggressive but as we know that is one of the characteristics that makes Pacquiao such a great fighter, Marquez was able to take advantage of this and used that aggressivity against him and was able to knock him out with a single punch.

Such incident where fans really got disappointed with how the outcome went, It's all on Pacquaio
 but that lucky punched landed in the right place. He won the game and it will never be forgotten.

Moving back to this fight, both are great warriors way back they've got their own era and beat those ass whoever opponent they've faced.

Let's see who's going to stand up with this exhibition fight.
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April 16, 2021, 09:10:23 PM
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Such incident where fans really got disappointed with how the outcome went, It's all on Pacquaio
 but that lucky punched landed in the right place. He won the game and it will never be forgotten.
That was probably the best win of Marquez over Pacquiao, he did not fight Pacquiao after that so he end up as a winner, but I think people doesn't think that way, though it was accepted that Pacquiao loss but Pacquiao is one of the all time great in boxing, Marquez is not even close.

Moving back to this fight, both are great warriors way back they've got their own era and beat those ass whoever opponent they've faced.

Let's see who's going to stand up with this exhibition fight.

Both will stand up til the end, this "exhibition match" is probably scripted.  Grin
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April 16, 2021, 10:11:36 PM
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Moving back to this fight, both are great warriors way back they've got their own era and beat those ass whoever opponent they've faced.

Let's see who's going to stand up with this exhibition fight.

Both will stand up til the end, this "exhibition match" is probably scripted.  Grin
Not scripted but rather those punches werent really be going serious. All the thing they would just do is to punch up and bring entertainment.This isnt something similar into those

punches that a fighter been looking or been hunger for a belt or for an official winning stat or score.This is why i dont really expect much when it comes to these exhibition fights where
nothing specially specially these both fighters are already retired and already past to their prime.

Take for example on that Roy and Tyson exhibition fight which i cant really feel up the thrill or excitement.

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April 16, 2021, 10:19:57 PM
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Both will stand up til the end, this "exhibition match" is probably scripted.  Grin

Not really scripted but it's more of something you see in a sparring match, these two boxers are never involved in a scripted match in their whole career and they are still physically fit, we will see something like the Tyson Jones match and it will probably end up in a draw, we will not see a brawl, something they are used to in their boxing days, it will be more of a technical fight.
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Both will stand up til the end, this "exhibition match" is probably scripted.  Grin

Not really scripted but it's more of something you see in a sparring match, these two boxers are never involved in a scripted match in their whole career and they are still physically fit, we will see something like the Tyson Jones match and it will probably end up in a draw, we will not see a brawl, something they are used to in their boxing days, it will be more of a technical fight.

Hmmm.. am I being too harsh? lol.. yeah, maybe you are right, pardon me.

I just don't feel this fight would be as good as the expectation of some that they'll see the same boxers that has fought Manny Pacquioa.
At least we should not expect a lot, an exhibition fight is usually for fun, it's like an NBA all star with lack of defense or no defense at all.
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April 19, 2021, 03:11:30 PM
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I saw that fight and I do not see how people can say that it was a lucky punch, there is footage of Marquez training that particular punch against their sparrings, Pacquiao had already fell before that punch in a previous round and you can see that Marquez is specifically waiting for Manny to come to him and try to deliver that punch, it was not a lucky punch it was a successful strategy that was implemented perfectly at the right place and the right time.
Maybe it was a lucky punch in the sense that Marquez was already losing the fight but he was able to do the right timing to KO Pacman. If Pacman was more careful and he did not go for a kill instead, that would give an easy win for him as he was faster and stronger than Marquez, but things happened, no excuses and we have to give that win whether by luck or not.
I will give you that, Marquez won the first rounds but then Pacquiao made a comeback, however it was obvious that he was in way better shape than Marquez as Pacquiao already won that round as well, however he was aggressive but as we know that is one of the characteristics that makes Pacquiao such a great fighter, Marquez was able to take advantage of this and used that aggressivity against him and was able to knock him out with a single punch.

Such incident where fans really got disappointed with how the outcome went, It's all on Pacquaio
 but that lucky punched landed in the right place. He won the game and it will never be forgotten.

Moving back to this fight, both are great warriors way back they've got their own era and beat those ass whoever opponent they've faced.

Let's see who's going to stand up with this exhibition fight.
If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
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I saw that fight and I do not see how people can say that it was a lucky punch, there is footage of Marquez training that particular punch against their sparrings, Pacquiao had already fell before that punch in a previous round and you can see that Marquez is specifically waiting for Manny to come to him and try to deliver that punch, it was not a lucky punch it was a successful strategy that was implemented perfectly at the right place and the right time.
Maybe it was a lucky punch in the sense that Marquez was already losing the fight but he was able to do the right timing to KO Pacman. If Pacman was more careful and he did not go for a kill instead, that would give an easy win for him as he was faster and stronger than Marquez, but things happened, no excuses and we have to give that win whether by luck or not.
I will give you that, Marquez won the first rounds but then Pacquiao made a comeback, however it was obvious that he was in way better shape than Marquez as Pacquiao already won that round as well, however he was aggressive but as we know that is one of the characteristics that makes Pacquiao such a great fighter, Marquez was able to take advantage of this and used that aggressivity against him and was able to knock him out with a single punch.

Such incident where fans really got disappointed with how the outcome went, It's all on Pacquaio
 but that lucky punched landed in the right place. He won the game and it will never be forgotten.

Moving back to this fight, both are great warriors way back they've got their own era and beat those ass whoever opponent they've faced.

Let's see who's going to stand up with this exhibition fight.
If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out  his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.

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April 19, 2021, 07:55:38 PM
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Both will stand up til the end, this "exhibition match" is probably scripted.  Grin

Not really scripted but it's more of something you see in a sparring match, these two boxers are never involved in a scripted match in their whole career and they are still physically fit, we will see something like the Tyson Jones match and it will probably end up in a draw, we will not see a brawl, something they are used to in their boxing days, it will be more of a technical fight.

Well we can't be certain that this will not be scripted.

Just like what you have said, Tyson was the heavy favourite in the fight, unfortunately, the judges seems to collude with themselves and let the fight be scored by a draw when obviously we saw that Tyson is winning. So let's see, let's hope that Cotto and Marquez will try to fight it out till the last one and no draw from the judges.

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April 19, 2021, 08:45:27 PM
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but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

For those who says that was a lucky punch knows nothing about boxing. Marquez has been training himself primarily to be the best counter puncher. That KO he did to Manny was his perfect counter punch from his whole career. It was perfectly timed and perfectly land to a wide open Manny's face. We all know Manny has a strong jaw and won't get easily rocked by solid punch in the face, but that was totally unexpected.
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but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.

For those who says that was a lucky punch knows nothing about boxing. Marquez has been training himself primarily to be the best counter puncher. That KO he did to Manny was his perfect counter punch from his whole career. It was perfectly timed and perfectly land to a wide open Manny's face. We all know Manny has a strong jaw and won't get easily rocked by solid punch in the face, but that was totally unexpected.


That's why some people called it a lucky punch because it was unexpected. Only Manny's punch are calling it as a lucky punch, they can't believe it because Manny was already winning but suddenly when he was going for a kill, he didn't expected a counter punch was coming.

Also, that win by Marquez still doesn't make him better than Manny because Manny has been giving him rematch when he loss, but after this fight, he didn't give Manny a chance to fight with him again, that's why people think he is afraid to lose.

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April 19, 2021, 09:19:54 PM
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These are what fans thought.

Manny loss against Mayweather, they want a rematch.
Manny loss against Marquez, they want a rematch.

You can't blame the fans, they are bias, and that makes the discussion interesting because we always discuss which one is better.

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April 23, 2021, 07:19:03 PM
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If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out  his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.
OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as  it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.
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April 23, 2021, 09:40:57 PM
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If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out  his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.
OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as  it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.
Forget about that Margarito fight, he knows he got cheated and he avenge his loss by beating Margarito in their rematch 3 years after he loss, there's no damage anymore on him, he is retired happy and the good news is that he is coming back for an exhibition fight.

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April 23, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
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If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out  his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.
OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as  it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.
Forget about that Margarito fight, he knows he got cheated and he avenge his loss by beating Margarito in their rematch 3 years after he loss, there's no damage anymore on him, he is retired happy and the good news is that he is coming back for an exhibition fight.
I agree with that, Margarito only cheated that's why he won but Cotto already get his justice and had many good fights after that, and that already includes Mayweather and Manny which unfortunately he loss.
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April 23, 2021, 11:06:05 PM
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If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out  his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.
OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as  it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.

Such damage that might be triggered again and risk his health, there's no doubt that the quality of his fighting skills might be affected of that incident.

The eagerness and the interest might shift out to other activities, this  exhibition may bring his fans some entertainment we know that there are still fans for this two boxers.

Hoping that no one will get serious damage, just a friendly exhibition for the best interest of the fans.

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April 24, 2021, 09:01:41 AM
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If the fight had lasted until the last round I have no doubts that Manny would have won as he was in a way better physical shape than Marquez before he received that punch, but we know that in boxing anything can happen which is why it is so exciting to watch, but I will still argue that it was not a lucky punch, there is simply too much evidence against that idea, Marquez was able to even KO his sparrings while training that punch so to me it was a strategy that he used to lure Manny in and deliver a fantastic KO.
It wasnt really a lucky punch and its just an excuse or some reasoning that it was indeed a fluke but its not because Marquez wont really be reaching out  his reputation,fame and popularity
if he doesnt have its own weapon or something up into his sleeve then he wont go that far into his boxing career.
Okay lets move on about those past fights and stick into this exhibition which is no doubt that performance will be entirely different compared when they are still into their prime.
Im not expecting that much that they would really be giving out their best on knocking out each other.
OK lets move on, this exhibition fight is going to be really interesting as  it is a fight between two former world champions that are not so far away from their retirement, the only thing I am worried is about Cotto, he is a good fighter but when he fought Margarito he suffered a lot of damage due to Margarito cheating with loaded gloves and that is the kind of damage that does not go away so I hope he is not putting his quality of life at risk by accepting this fight.
Forget about that Margarito fight, he knows he got cheated and he avenge his loss by beating Margarito in their rematch 3 years after he loss, there's no damage anymore on him, he is retired happy and the good news is that he is coming back for an exhibition fight.

Yeah, I think everyone knows that Margarito has plaster of paris that's why the damage in Cotto's face is very different from what he got in the second fight. And I would say that Margarito is guilty of it and then Manny Pacquiao give him what he deserves, broken orbital bone and he was never been the same.

As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

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April 24, 2021, 02:13:49 PM
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As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win, we never know that's why we make a guess and bet on the fighter that we think will win.
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As for this match, I can't pick because they are legends. But I would say that Cotto will have a slight advantage against Marquez here. And we all know that this is just an exhibition though, friendly fight for this two great boxers of our generations.

You should make a pick if you are betting on this fight, just for fun, you can put a little bet so you'll enjoy more this fight. Cotto as per majority here is the favorite, but we don'y really know what would happen in the actual fight, it could be Marquez who will win,

We can't just sit and watch, as a gambler we stake on this fight to enjoy it more. This is the fight of two great boxers, this has not happen in their professional life as a boxer, now we will see them fight.  But still always remember that it's just an exhibition fight, so let us not expect a lot here.

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