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Russia now requires all smart devices — including phones, computers, and TVs — in the country to have Russian software preinstalled, in what some locals have called a "law against Apple".
The law applies to all devices produced in the country from Thursday onwards. Reuters reported that Russia viewed it as a way to help Russian software companies compete with international ones.
The outlet added that the law had been an issue for Apple and that it had become known as "the law against Apple."
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I don't know whether this is good or bad for selling smartphones or software in Russia, This is the sales of smartphones in Russia according to statista....

what is certain, that smartphone provider must adjust to this rule.  do you think this is a good step to increase Russia's competitiveness against foreign countries that we know are the US?  or this is a bad move that will slow down Russia's competitiveness!

It's obviously bad for consumers. If Russian software was any good and desired by consumers, they wouldn't need the government to force it onto devices in the country. Russia is an authoritarian country like China, and it's not surprising to see them attempting to prop up their uncompetitive businesses artificially through strongarm tactics like this.

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April 08, 2021, 07:52:49 AM
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It's obviously bad for consumers. If Russian software was any good and desired by consumers, they wouldn't need the government to force it onto devices in the country. Russia is an authoritarian country like China, and it's not surprising to see them attempting to prop up their uncompetitive businesses artificially through strongarm tactics like this.

It is not about whether the software is good or bad. Russian firms are being denied a level playing field elsewhere. Even in case of the vaccination against CoVID 19, the American regime forced many countries not to order the Sputnik V vaccine. The Nord Stream 2 pipeline is hit by sanctions from the US, although the German government is firmly in favor of its completion. When this is the case, why should the Russian government allow Western corporations to make profit in their jurisdiction?
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April 15, 2021, 06:49:35 PM
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The purpose of this bill has no economic goals at all. The goal is an exceptionally stricter monitoring of the population, its actions, and the prevention of anti-government movements. Like any totalitarian government, the Kremlin government is afraid of the free population and the dissemination of information that does not correspond to the "policy of the Kremlin." Well, plus "the pernicious influence of the West on the immature minds of Russians" - an eternal song, since the times of the USSR Smiley
Refer to the history of the USSR, read about total control and restrictions in the USSR, the "Iron Curtain" and more

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April 15, 2021, 09:00:11 PM
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It's obviously bad for consumers. If Russian software was any good and desired by consumers, they wouldn't need the government to force it onto devices in the country. Russia is an authoritarian country like China, and it's not surprising to see them attempting to prop up their uncompetitive businesses artificially through strongarm tactics like this.

It is not about whether the software is good or bad. Russian firms are being denied a level playing field elsewhere. Even in case of the vaccination against CoVID 19, the American regime forced many countries not to order the Sputnik V vaccine. The Nord Stream 2 pipeline is hit by sanctions from the US, although the German government is firmly in favor of its completion. When this is the case, why should the Russian government allow Western corporations to make profit in their jurisdiction?
Most smartphone companies are Chinese and Korean so these are nothing related to the economic war between Russia and US but completely to destroy the human privacy because data is the 21st century's gold which I read somewhere so which government has such assets will be making better decision politically and also can influence the people even can manipulate them.









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April 16, 2021, 03:04:17 PM
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It's obviously bad for consumers. If Russian software was any good and desired by consumers, they wouldn't need the government to force it onto devices in the country. Russia is an authoritarian country like China, and it's not surprising to see them attempting to prop up their uncompetitive businesses artificially through strongarm tactics like this.

It is not about whether the software is good or bad. Russian firms are being denied a level playing field elsewhere. Even in case of the vaccination against CoVID 19, the American regime forced many countries not to order the Sputnik V vaccine. The Nord Stream 2 pipeline is hit by sanctions from the US, although the German government is firmly in favor of its completion. When this is the case, why should the Russian government allow Western corporations to make profit in their jurisdiction?

You confuse "warm with soft" as they say Smiley
You either do not own the real information, or you are deliberately distorting it. Both are bad. In fact:
1. Sputnik 5 did not go through the specified verification procedure, therefore there is such an attitude towards it. And that's okay. If Pfizer had released the same "unfinished" vaccine, he would not have been allowed on the market in the same way. Before talking about the article on the Lancet, read the answer of a group of specialized specialists, there is a lot of dubious data and a lot of unanswered questions. For one thing, read what a strange situation with Sputnik5 has developed in Slovakia. Look for information on SUKL. The crux of the problem, get ready, "The lots of vaccine used in the preclinical trials and clinical trials described in the Lancet do not match the characteristics and properties of the lots sent to Slovakia." Tell me honestly - with other vaccines there are so many "incomprehensibility", "ambiguity", forgeries and other things?
Yes, for the sake of completeness, the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), which supplied two batches of 100,000 doses of Sputnik to Slovakia in early March, declined to comment on the conclusions of the Slovak Medicines Administration (SUKL).


2. Nord Stream 2. You are being disingenuous here too! I can describe in great detail the essence of "Russian gas terrorism" (read about it, and if you do not know where to find it, ask, I will show you everything), but it will take a long time. But you somehow, it seems deliberately, tried to "forget" about this, and present the sanctions against Nord Stream 2 as a purely political showdown between the United States and Russia Smiley


And also - do not forget that many politicians in Germany are very much interested, financially, in gas supplies from the Russian Federation. Remind me where Gerhard Schroeder works? I can also tell you about other financial dependence of German politicians on Kremlin money!


But back to the EU in 2021. According to them, by 2035, the gas deficit in the EU will amount to approximately 120 billion cubic meters. But if you read these "miscalculations", you will see the exclusively ordered nature of the article, pure advertising of Russia as in fact the only one who can solve this problem!
At the same time, not a word about TANAP, or liquefied gas from the United States, or gas from Qatar, and of course other suppliers. But in fact - this project for Russia is an attempt to influence the EU, and sanctions are sanctions for Russia's crimes against Ukraine, and I hope they will add for others too, nothing more. Of course, the sanctions should be sensitive, therefore this project also fell under the "distribution". Until 2015, there were no sanctions! But at the same time, the United States is well aware that even a complete stop of this project will not bring problems to the EU.

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April 16, 2021, 05:35:35 PM
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At this point Russians are probably used to not having the same level of freedom as other countries so they will go along with this. I don't know if it's about making Russian companies more competitive or if they just want to have more control over their population. Giving people less choice doesn't lead to better products, it is always worse.
Of course, this is about controlling your population. It is much easier to incorporate various means of control over people into your software. In addition, Russia's isolation from the outside world and from foreign markets is now rapidly growing. Silly international policies based on the use of military force, blackmail and intimidation are leading to ever tougher international sanctions and this can lead to trade restrictions or to complete isolation of Russia from the outside world. Therefore, it is better to prepare for this in advance.

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April 18, 2021, 04:59:36 AM
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It's obviously bad for consumers. If Russian software was any good and desired by consumers, they wouldn't need the government to force it onto devices in the country. Russia is an authoritarian country like China, and it's not surprising to see them attempting to prop up their uncompetitive businesses artificially through strongarm tactics like this.

It is not about whether the software is good or bad. Russian firms are being denied a level playing field elsewhere. Even in case of the vaccination against CoVID 19, the American regime forced many countries not to order the Sputnik V vaccine. The Nord Stream 2 pipeline is hit by sanctions from the US, although the German government is firmly in favor of its completion. When this is the case, why should the Russian government allow Western corporations to make profit in their jurisdiction?

None of that addresses the facts. Russian corporations are propped up by the Russian government because their products are inferior and not competitive in the global market. Nobody expects a level playing field in Russia. At the end of the day, Russia gonna Russia.

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April 19, 2021, 03:24:08 PM
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I don't know whether this is good or bad for selling smartphones or software in Russia, This is the sales of smartphones in Russia according to statista....

what is certain, that smartphone provider must adjust to this rule.  do you think this is a good step to increase Russia's competitiveness against foreign countries that we know are the US?  or this is a bad move that will slow down Russia's competitiveness!
Lol, how does having software installed in smartphones helps with their competitiveness? And if I may ask, what kind of software is that, is it a software that is run by the Russian government, maybe some kind of software that will help them keep an eye on citizens or something like that? Or do they mean that they just want any software that are Russian software installed? I don’t see how that’s going to help them. I think if they are trying to be competitive, there are more important areas where their focus should be, and not this. So, I am believing that their main purpose for doing this is not really just about what you have said, it might be something else.

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Lol, how does having software installed in smartphones helps with their competitiveness? And if I may ask, what kind of software is that, is it a software that is run by the Russian government, maybe some kind of software that will help them keep an eye on citizens or something like that? Or do they mean that they just want any software that are Russian software installed? I don’t see how that’s going to help them. I think if they are trying to be competitive, there are more important areas where their focus should be, and not this. So, I am believing that their main purpose for doing this is not really just about what you have said, it might be something else.
it makes me wonder.  if they want to make a "domestic product" software to be great in their own country (like the Chinese government have been successful do) then what they have to do is raise the spirit of nationalism among its citizens so that they really love "domestic products".

mandating a Russian-made app on every smartphone that is there suddenly like this, i think it will only increase the suspicion of its own citizens and feel they are really being watched.  The question is whether Russians are like Chinese citizens "lol" (which is comfortable under the supervision of the government)

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