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May 05, 2021, 10:04:14 PM
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Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.
VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.
Not only the management but also some players are choosing to take the risk and rig the game because they've seen money in their front. That's why even if the league isn't that low level, there are some players that have been taken due to greed and thought of the additional money that they shall receive in exchange of their pride and dignity as a professional player.
The players just chose to end their career early. I hope those who are asked to rig the game knows that the game they are participating in has a possible underground betting between someone or organizations and it could be pretty big bets giving the fact that the game is getting rigged. Being blinded by money is one of the downfalls of many athletes, Many careers have been thorned because of the involvement of money in a game.
I think they're aware of that but they can't shut it down easily because those people that are behind it could also be big people that can't easily be taken down.
Too sad for those athletes that have been involved and decided to end their career early just because of their carelessness.

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May 05, 2021, 10:07:01 PM
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Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.
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May 05, 2021, 11:42:33 PM
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Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.
For big leagues then it wont really be much an issue but for small league ones then this would commonly happen to think that money is involved then its likely that people will really be ending up
for this kind of option and this one really make the entire organization in a bad image and i cant blame off the fans on having that kind of impression when it starts to get tainted with
these kind of illegal activities.It might not really be that common but once it do happened then impression would really be on next.

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May 05, 2021, 11:57:22 PM
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Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.
For big leagues then it wont really be much an issue but for small league ones then this would commonly happen to think that money is involved then its likely that people will really be ending up
for this kind of option and this one really make the entire organization in a bad image and i cant blame off the fans on having that kind of impression when it starts to get tainted with
these kind of illegal activities.It might not really be that common but once it do happened then impression would really be on next.

Their image is tainted so getting back their credibility would be a lot difficult.
But only time will tell how far they can go in this sports without committing the same mistake again.
And hopefully, not ever again. Because the second time, I don't think they will still have their career on this sports.
Because one mistake will ruin their life's career, so better look for another one, if they are thinking of doing it again.
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May 06, 2021, 09:06:28 AM
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~ The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
~

That's what we are talking about here: it becomes less and less possible to rig a game, especially if it's a high level game with many people watching it. Athletes are not film actors: they can play with all their strength to win, but if they told otherwise, it's hard for them to make it look natural.

People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.

And if an event is watched by millions, the probability of getting caught is very high. The first time they try cheating can easily be the last.

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May 06, 2021, 09:29:12 AM
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~ The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
~

That's what we are talking about here: it becomes less and less possible to rig a game, especially if it's a high level game with many people watching it. Athletes are not film actors: they can play with all their strength to win, but if they told otherwise, it's hard for them to make it look natural.
No, it's still possible to rig games, it doesn't mean they have to play the rigging game in the whole game, there's a lot of way of rigging games, a prop bet is one. A player bet like 20 points over/ under, a certain player can intentionally not make 20 points or more, just to win a certain bet.

People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.

And if an event is watched by millions, the probability of getting caught is very high. The first time they try cheating can easily be the last.
More involve in rigging, the higher the chance they are caught, that's what I believe.

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May 06, 2021, 10:28:24 AM
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Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

That's it what happened to this topic is a good example of an obvious rigging of game.

People behind are now suffering they already receive the punishments that right to what they've done. Lesson learns that even you think that it's just normal and there is someone who also doing the same, but if you are the one who caught in the act, you are the one that will suffer the punishment.
Better to keep your self away from this illegal activities and love the opportunities that being rewarded to you, play game in the right way and be a good example for those aspirant of this sport.
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May 06, 2021, 11:05:20 AM
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Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

People behind are now suffering they already receive the punishments that right to what they've done. Lesson learns that even you think that it's just normal and there is someone who also doing the same, but if you are the one who caught in the act, you are the one that will suffer the punishment.
Better to keep your self away from this illegal activities and love the opportunities that being rewarded to you, play game in the right way and be a good example for those aspirant of this sport.

Players will get tempted to be involved on game fixing especially if their salary is so small, that professional pointed out by OP is actually not a big league thats why the players involve think that they will not be caught cheating their games but unfortunately the power of social media is so strong and their awful games became viral easily. Now good for them facing those penalties and shame for hopefully those suspended or banned (if there is) cannot join any professional league in PH.

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May 06, 2021, 11:13:21 AM
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A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Personally? is stopped watching Local basketball for long time now because of this thing and actually this has been happening for long years now and just recently that it was being broadcasted .

So hate it but i don't wanna trust the Game also because there are so many games that has fairness and not on this sports anymore.









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May 06, 2021, 12:36:27 PM
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A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Personally? is stopped watching Local basketball for long time now because of this thing and actually this has been happening for long years now and just recently that it was being broadcasted .

So hate it but i don't wanna trust the Game also because there are so many games that has fairness and not on this sports anymore.

That is your choice, but for me, I still love to watch local sports. I believe that although major sports have a good reputation rigging is also happening, it's not that obvious though because they have already mastered it. For me, I need to appreciate our local sports before I would appreciate an international sports.

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May 06, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
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~ The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
~

That's what we are talking about here: it becomes less and less possible to rig a game, especially if it's a high level game with many people watching it. Athletes are not film actors: they can play with all their strength to win, but if they told otherwise, it's hard for them to make it look natural.
No, it's still possible to rig games, it doesn't mean they have to play the rigging game in the whole game, there's a lot of way of rigging games, a prop bet is one. A player bet like 20 points over/ under, a certain player can intentionally not make 20 points or more, just to win a certain bet.
Yes, I agree that is possible because we do not know how the rigging can happen or how they will arrange it behind us.
We can think that is not possible but if they are often doing rigging and they are smart enough to hide that from the audience or other people, we will not know.

People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.

And if an event is watched by millions, the probability of getting caught is very high. The first time they try cheating can easily be the last.
More involve in rigging, the higher the chance they are caught, that's what I believe.
It is about a matter of time before the authorities catch them and I believe someday that will happen and we will not see that thing happen again.
That still needs time to clean that cheating and needs more effort from the authorities.

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May 06, 2021, 07:11:35 PM
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Today there was very interesting case of potentially fixed game in Ukraine Premier League.
Some strange things happened in markets before Minaj and Shakhtar Donetsk game. Odds for Minaj win went from 27 to 44. Also, so many people started to bet on over 3.5 goals that some bookmakers removed this game from market. When I made bet for over 3.5, it was @1.60, but 30 minutes before game it was just 1.37.
And then, Minaj players simply refused to play because of allegations. Later they changed their mind, but game started 35 minutes later than planned. And how unexpected, game ended with Shakhtar win 4:0.
As far as I know, Minaj players aren't getting paid, so it's nothing surprising that they got involved in dirty things. And loss tonight means that they will drop to second division.
If you're interested, you can see highlights of game:
https://youtu.be/kSM37QIRPCo

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May 06, 2021, 08:01:52 PM
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^ It seems like someone just pointed a gun and threaten the teams who are involved. Not really sure who were they in favor of. But it is really obvious that they are playing the game wrong. They are trying to manipulate who would win. This is what I hate with not so much organized league. They work too dirty. It was a very obvious one. If I were the one who asked them to do it and that is the result? I would cut them out of their careers and throw them in the dirtiest jobs in the world. Nevertheless, this is just my own opinion.
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May 06, 2021, 08:13:43 PM
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^ It seems like someone just pointed a gun and threaten the teams who are involved. Not really sure who were they in favor of. But it is really obvious that they are playing the game wrong. They are trying to manipulate who would win. This is what I hate with not so much organized league. They work too dirty. It was a very obvious one. If I were the one who asked them to do it and that is the result? I would cut them out of their careers and throw them in the dirtiest jobs in the world. Nevertheless, this is just my own opinion.
The main issue here is that if volumes of betting are getting higher the more worth it gets for criminals to manipulate games. In economic speech: The externalities get higher with larger scalability. You really need some kind of authority to control such things.
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May 06, 2021, 08:20:35 PM
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Today there was very interesting case of potentially fixed game in Ukraine Premier League.
Some strange things happened in markets before Minaj and Shakhtar Donetsk game. Odds for Minaj win went from 27 to 44. Also, so many people started to bet on over 3.5 goals that some bookmakers removed this game from market. When I made bet for over 3.5, it was @1.60, but 30 minutes before game it was just 1.37.
And then, Minaj players simply refused to play because of allegations. Later they changed their mind, but game started 35 minutes later than planned. And how unexpected, game ended with Shakhtar win 4:0.
As far as I know, Minaj players aren't getting paid, so it's nothing surprising that they got involved in dirty things. And loss tonight means that they will drop to second division.
If you're interested, you can see highlights of game:
https://youtu.be/kSM37QIRPCo

A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

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May 06, 2021, 08:38:50 PM
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Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.


It is more common than many people think actually. Why would anybody think otherwise I cannot understand. Betting on sports is a multi billion dollar business. People will do anything to make the most buck out of it. Yes there are regulators too but they will only catch one out of a hundred rigged games.

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May 06, 2021, 08:46:05 PM
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Checkout the Serbian leagues.First and Second. Both leagues in the end just fixing match especially those fighting for relegation.Uefa sended so many reports even some teams lost points.Too easy now to predict wins in this league because only thing you should do is bet on the teams fighting for survival

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May 06, 2021, 09:09:38 PM
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Checkout the Serbian leagues.First and Second. Both leagues in the end just fixing match especially those fighting for relegation.Uefa sended so many reports even some teams lost points.Too easy now to predict wins in this league because only thing you should do is bet on the teams fighting for survival
That's the advantage for bettors who understands what is happening, but for the fans, they might feel different if they know that the sports they love are being rigged, this should stop, this should be a serious criminal offense so it will not be easily done by these corrupt players and officials.

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May 06, 2021, 09:12:32 PM
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I am pretty confident that there is not much or even none at all rigging going on in the big european football (soccer) leagues (England, Germany, Spain, France, Netherlands) nowadays. I am not so sure about the italian league though because they have a history of rigged games even in the serie a. I think that there is just to much money involved in those big leagues already that someone can buy enough players of a club to rig a game. I agree though that there is probably still a lot of rigging going on in the lower leagues or in leagues of smaller countries.
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May 06, 2021, 09:28:31 PM
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Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.
Maybe that can reduce slowly, especially if the officials can catch the actor behind to get punishment from the authorities. If they can get caught, sooner or later, that can completely stop and we will see the fairness in the game so there is nothing to worry about with that rigged. We as an audience need to be wise if we see that thing still happen in the sports and maybe we can report it to the officials or the authorities. At least, that can be a clue for them to investigate any rigged that happen in the sports.

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