Did you take the vaccine? tell us what happend?

[Jet Cash]

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Data to support this assertion? AFAIK preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).

Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines, and you need multiple jabs with some of them. Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness. This means that vaccines will allow the virus to multiply far more readily than with a healthy non-vaccinated person. I have yet to see a basic comparison between the effectiveness of vaccination and non-vaccination without introducing other factors and manipulation.

Always remember that the vaccine needs a working immune system to do its job, and it bypasses the primary protection offered by the immune system.

[nurilham]

I feel just a little pain after the vaccination. I must take the vaccine because I have no choice, it is a must for my job.
In fact, there are too many rumors about the vaccine. Some people tell me that the vaccine isn't very effective to prevent Covid-19. We still can be contracted Covid-19 even though we have got the vaccine. Others believe that the vaccine is created for business purposes only. So, I am a bit confused about whether the rumors are fake or true. Can someone explain it to me?

[BADecker]

I feel just a little pain after the vaccination. I must take the vaccine because I have no choice, it is a must for my job.
In fact, there are too many rumors about the vaccine. Some people tell me that the vaccine isn't very effective to prevent Covid-19. We still can be contracted Covid-19 even though we have got the vaccine. Others believe that the vaccine is created for business purposes only. So, I am a bit confused about whether the rumors are fake or true. Can someone explain it to me?

It works like this. If you don't live in a Communist country, or under a Dictatorship, then you DO have choice to take the vaccine or not. You have to decide which is more dangerous... losing your job, or taking the vaccine.

There are rumors about the vaccine, and there are are things that are rather truthful about them. Search on "CDC VAERS." You will get some government and CDC sites that will give you the answers IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO READ THEIR MUCKETY MUCK.

OR, you could go here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5332039.msg56854009#msg56854009 - and get the info the easy way... with backups to show where my info comes from (the CDC, etc.). Now that you have prompted me, I think that I will go to the links, again, to refresh my memory about what they show.

However, I think that the OP is trying to get the simple data on people... what they were like before getting the vaccine, and what happened to them afterward. Good question. But... you can't have it both ways:
1. You didn't take the vaxx, and you are... healthy, sick, whatever?;
2. You took the vaxx and you are... healthy, sick, whatever?.
Just remember. If you take the vaxx, you will never be able to find out what would have happened to you if you didn't take it... and vice versa.

[franky1]

even using your data

At least 135,791,031 people have received at least one dose
Open VAERS 2602 DEATHS

maths is great under 0.002%

badecker seems to think that 3% death from covid is acceptable loss
badecker seems to think that 0.2% death from other flus is acceptable loss

but a vaccine that has a 0.002% rate is some how a thing badecker fears
even if that vaccine can turn a 3% down to a 0.15%.. and then add in the incidental loss of the vaccine
=0.152%

so a vaccine changing 3% to 0.152% seems to be a good thing even with incidental loss due to the vaccine side effects

so what is badeckers problem with a 0.002-0.152 death rate.. if he thinks a 3% death rate is ok

my view is badecker just fears needles or anyone smarter then him.. and is just looking for any excuse
to remain ignorant

[franky1]

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Data to support this assertion? AFAIK preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).

Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines, and you need multiple jabs with some of them. Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness. This means that vaccines will allow the virus to multiply far more readily than with a healthy non-vaccinated person. I have yet to see a basic comparison between the effectiveness of vaccination and non-vaccination without introducing other factors and manipulation.

Always remember that the vaccine needs a working immune system to do its job, and it bypasses the primary protection offered by the immune system.

people getting covid in march 2020 were getting sick 3-6-9months later.. so it seems its not 100% effective to catch a virus that has a 3% kill rate.. nor is it safer to prefer the virus over the vaccine

the more the virus is allowed to spread the more mutations and thus more problems it can cause

id rather have a vaccine in my arm that may irritate my arm muscle for a few days than have the virus that will irritate my lungs and organs for longer.
you can still breath with an arm ache after all

[Cnut237]

preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).

And I've since linked to more up-to-date data which show quite clearly that the vaccines are effective at reducing both infection and transmission.

Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines

Citation needed. Particularly of the pharma companies who are apparently claiming "0%" effectiveness. Unless it was a shift+5 typo and that should be "50%"? In which case, the majority of vaccines are well over 50%. The Sinovac one I think is the least effective, at somewhere like 50% after two doses. But that's not representative of Pfizer, AZ, Moderna, J&J, etc.

Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness.

Unless you die. Or you are happy to gamble with long-term health effects. Or are happy to infect others.
You're against all vaccination, but I still haven't seen a decent rebuttal for the times when I've mentioned Polio, or Smallpox, etc.

[yazher]

I save myself to be the last person who will need the vaccination. As we witnessed, in other parts of the world, the pandemic is getting worse and the rumors about the vaccines are a pain in the ass as well. Now the vaccine has reached our city but those people who are higher rank are those who get vaccinated first and so far there is no force happen. whenever you want to be vaccinated you just fell in the line and wait for your turn. as for me, I made my decision already.

[BADecker]

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Data to support this assertion? AFAIK preliminary studies do show reduced transmission (I've linked to this previously).

Even the pharma companies only claim %0-80% effectiveness with their vaccines, and you need multiple jabs with some of them. Natural immunity if it is allowed to develop and be used by the body, offers 100% effectiveness. This means that vaccines will allow the virus to multiply far more readily than with a healthy non-vaccinated person. I have yet to see a basic comparison between the effectiveness of vaccination and non-vaccination without introducing other factors and manipulation.

Always remember that the vaccine needs a working immune system to do its job, and it bypasses the primary protection offered by the immune system.

people getting covid in march 2020 were getting sick 3-6-9months later.. so it seems its not 100% effective to catch a virus that has a 3% kill rate.. nor is it safer to prefer the virus over the vaccine

the more the virus is allowed to spread the more mutations and thus more problems it can cause

id rather have a vaccine in my arm that may irritate my arm muscle for a few days than have the virus that will irritate my lungs and organs for longer.
you can still breath with an arm ache after all

And if the vaccine kills you, you just might have a long time to discuss with the Covid dead about which, the vaccine or Covid itself, is more painful to die with.

[Hispo]

I have not been able to get any shoot.
I am afraid my government is not taken the vaccination seriously enough.

I am more concerned for my parents, though

[Renampun]

2 days ago, I was obliged to participate in the vaccine program...
a short message entered my smartphone and I got a turn, the vaccine that was injected into my body was Sinovac. the reaction I felt at first with my left hand felt numb and felt very sleepy but after 2 hours my body began to adjust and my body returned to normal. luckily I already have kids so I have nothing to worry about and hopefully, there will be no bad effects on my body.

[tvbcof]

India's newly appointed 'health ambassador' media personality dude makes a thing about getting vaxxed then dies days later.

Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.

The hardest job in the world must be to do PR for the vax-pushers about now, but it must be exciting though with a shit-load of overtime.  And it must be enough of an eye-opener to the (army of) Pub Rel personnel working this thing to keep their and their families well away from the jab.  That's a noteworthy fringe benefit to be sure.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/qExQZ65HtHU0/
  Virtue Signalers Keep Dying After Posting Their Coof Vaccine Selfies

I'm waiting for the next leaked call to professional independant 'social media influencers'.  Should look something like this:

-  Assignment:  Post joyful selfies with 'I'm vaxxed' sticker just after vaccination(*) and gushing virtue signaling prose.
  - Pay: $2500.00 via PayPal (not to be reported to IRS.)

 * _{Note:  Not available to people who actually just got vaccinated.}

As for Kaminsky, I actually wonder if he really is dead.  There were all these stories about him being one of the handful of guys who could 'reboot the Internet', and that mission would appear to be on the near term task list with the so-called 'great reset'.

Kaminsky seemed to be a pretty good guy (if as well a conceited prick) from what little I heard of him.  Pretty involved at some level in Bitcoin; tried to break it early on and say's he couldn't do it.  I think I saw one of his presentations at one of the conferences long ago but don't remember for sure.  I wonder who he was on this forum if he ever was.  It's a shame that he will go down as the computer security guy that tried to push 'the kill shot' on well meaning simps before he ate the big one.

[Cnut237]

Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.

Citation needed on 'many'. One single data point, one individual, doesn't constitute an argument.
India in general is in a bad way with Covid. Poorer nations always suffer, and in this instance the rich nations have taken all the vaccines. Plus it doesn't help having that crazed supremacist Modi in charge.

[BADecker]

Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.

Citation needed on 'many'. One single data point, one individual, doesn't constitute an argument.
India in general is in a bad way with Covid. Poorer nations always suffer, and in this instance the rich nations have taken all the vaccines. Plus it doesn't help having that crazed supremacist Modi in charge.

Mental hospitalization needed for all those jokers^^ who can't do their own research.

[tvbcof]

Kaminsky is among the many people virtue signaling about getting vaxed...then dies days later.

Citation needed on 'many'. One single data point, one individual, doesn't constitute an argument.
India in general is in a bad way with Covid. Poorer nations always suffer, and in this instance the rich nations have taken all the vaccines. Plus it doesn't help having that crazed supremacist Modi in charge.

Mental hospitalization needed for all those jokers^^ who can't do their own research.

Mental hospitals are expensive to run, and it's the people who CAN do their own research who end up footing the bill.

Give them a hole to jump into and let natural selection do the rest.  Lots of people in my category see a silver lining in Gates' and Schwab's shovel work even while not being on-board or thinking of it as a net positive thing.

[LTU_btc]

So, I got Pfizer vaccine today. I still wasn't decided whether to take vaccine or no, but today I got phone call very unexpected and I didn't had enough time to think and say no. Whatever.
I got it today morning and now after more than 12 hours I feel great. There is just little pain in shoulder when I'm moving my hand. All my colleagues who also got vaccine today also feel good. Let's wait what will happen tonight or tomorrow.
I will get second dose after 3 weeks - on 19th May.

[Poker Player]

So, I got Pfizer vaccine today. I still wasn't decided whether to take vaccine or no, but today I got phone call very unexpected and I didn't had enough time to think and say no. Whatever.
I got it today morning and now after more than 12 hours I feel great. There is just little pain in shoulder when I'm moving my hand. All my colleagues who also got vaccine today also feel good. Let's wait what will happen tonight or tomorrow.
I will get second dose after 3 weeks - on 19th May.

That is because of the placebo effect. More psychological than anything else. Unless you have been given some "magic" substance instead of the vaccine, which is highly unlikely.

[yemight600]

So, I got Pfizer vaccine today. I still wasn't decided whether to take vaccine or no, but today I got phone call very unexpected and I didn't had enough time to think and say no. Whatever.
I got it today morning and now after more than 12 hours I feel great. There is just little pain in shoulder when I'm moving my hand. All my colleagues who also got vaccine today also feel good. Let's wait what will happen tonight or tomorrow.
I will get second dose after 3 weeks - on 19th May.

Firstly, may i ask whic part of the world you're conversing from?. I just believe this vaccine of a thing does not guarantee one is safe from this deadly virus. We've seen a case of a president that contacted the virus after he's taken the vaccine. If that could happen to a country's first citizen...🤐🤐🤐.

Let's wait what will happen tonight or tomorrow.
I will get second dose after 3 weeks - on 19th May.

You should put your mind at rest. Nothing bad will happen tomorrow and remember to take the second dose

[LTU_btc]

That is because of the placebo effect. More psychological than anything else. Unless you have been given some "magic" substance instead of the vaccine, which is highly unlikely.

No, it's not placebo effect. I was feeling great before taking vaccine and I felt great after I took it. Nothing has changed, except that little pain in shoulder.
And I took vaccine not because I'm afraid to get Covid. It's more because of restrictions. I will be able to travel without abroad without testing, I won't have to go into isolation after contact with infected person.

Firstly, may i ask whic part of the world you're conversing from?. I just believe this vaccine of a thing does not guarantee one is safe from this deadly virus. We've seen a case of a president that contacted the virus after he's taken the vaccine. If that could happen to a country's first citizen...🤐🤐🤐.

I'm from Europe. Nobody haven't said that vaccine gives 100% protection

[suchmoon]

That is because of the placebo effect. More psychological than anything else. Unless you have been given some "magic" substance instead of the vaccine, which is highly unlikely.

What are you talking about? These are quite normal symptoms after the first dose of Pfizer/Moderna.

[yemight600]

I'm from Europe. Nobody haven't said that vaccine gives 100% protection

The most important thing is to just ensure to take optimum precautions by following the guard lines and probably take the vaccine. No cure is still 100% sure at the moment