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April 30, 2021, 06:59:11 AM |
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That's why I hate stupid bonuses.
Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make.
For me it depends because not all bonuses are that bad whenever I see a bonus I usually check the rules to see if it's worth it or not. The most common bonuses are usually the worst ones which is the first deposit bonus that sometimes include free spins but there are still good ones you can find from time to time that doesn't have any wagering requirements. Nobody is perfect in the first place, so let's help this guy cope up with the stress that has been happening with him right now.
OP already said on the previous page that he already moved on from it so he probably doesn't need help at this point.
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April 30, 2021, 07:08:32 AM |
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~ Unfortunately, in your case, the violations were severe and left us with no room for any kind of exception. Below are the main reasons we were forced to remove the winnings. ~
I feel your pain. I don't say anything about the bet amount limit but the 6-9 points they stated sound stupid. The bookmaker I play on also gives significant bonuses for deposits, black Friday, etc. And when you have bonus funds in your balance - you have to choose a balance to bet from when you make one. Like you chose a game, chose what you bet on, and then you choose from what balance you wanna play and if it's "bonus balance" it says like bonus funds are not playable in these games and at least it reminds if you play if will have certain consequences. That's kinda dumb of them.
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April 30, 2021, 08:46:44 AM |
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A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
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April 30, 2021, 10:14:55 AM |
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In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
Unfortunately, this is very often the case and does not only affect online casinos. I know of a case where a user registered with an exchange via VPN and deposited BTC. During the withdraw, his account was checked, it was determined that he had registered via VPN and his account was blocked with reference to the "user agreements" - he never saw the BTCagain. The platforms take advantage of the fact that hardly anyone of us actually reads the user agreements or terms and conditions and then have a powerful weapon at hand to confiscate funds etc. in the event of a dispute. This ofc would most likely not stand up in any court, but the effort for a lawsuit is hardly ever taken ...
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April 30, 2021, 10:28:19 AM |
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This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Actually almost the same TOS/TOC of every online crypto gambling sites that's why many of them skip reading this because of that thing but yet some of them added or revised the normal conditions with their own so best to check it time to time. though there are scam site that even you have read the Terms yet they will find something to make you guilty of the violation. but I'm not saying that this is the same case because its far different .
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April 30, 2021, 11:15:03 AM |
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A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
It is rare for users to read the user agreement as we most of us instantly check the box about it every time whether we are just creating a social media account. I agree that the gambling site should just automatically make the be higher than 10$ be impossible to do as it is against their rules and agreement. Also, they should not let their users and players to use the bonus on other games which doesn't support the bonus program. Knowing that the site intentionally do these things makes me wonder if the gambling site should be trusted as for me, I think that they tricking their users about this loopholes on their agreement. But still, us users can't do anything as these are within their rules and the agreement we've agreed on when creating an account on their gambling website.
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April 30, 2021, 11:31:37 AM |
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A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
+1 about this mate. In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
Same thoughts here , I believe that this is an intentional action from the site and showing that they are not so honest . Sorry for Him but more sorry for the site because i will never play in such company.
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April 30, 2021, 12:29:22 PM |
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This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Actually almost the same TOS/TOC of every online crypto gambling sites that's why many of them skip reading this because of that thing but yet some of them added or revised the normal conditions with their own so best to check it time to time. though there are scam site that even you have read the Terms yet they will find something to make you guilty of the violation. but I'm not saying that this is the same case because its far different . I think the casino will easily find the mistake from the members so they won't let them withdraw the win money, even if the members deserve that money. We can not do anything about it and no matter how we can not withdraw the money because they will not let us do that. That is why if we play on the recommended gambling site, we will not have a that bad experience, so we can deposit and withdraw the money anytime we want. The casino will let the members cash out their win money and not search for the mistake if they do not do anything.
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April 30, 2021, 12:57:52 PM |
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This is the reason why its a must to read the gambling site's terms and condition to be certain that you wont commit anything that is against their rules. It can be prevented if we take time reading their TOS and not hurry to try out our luck.
Well such winnings are really good but unfortunately become voided. Despite of all these violations, they still re-credited your original deposit and its a chance to try your luck again. Anyway its a lesson learned and reminders for gamblers to not do the same mistakes.
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April 30, 2021, 04:57:04 PM |
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You should also provide the casino details so that some other ignorant gambler like you does not fall in the same trap. 1)The casino seems to be legit as they have returned your deposit bonus as scam projects usually don't respond to your queries. 2)But the casino need to make changes into their script like popping up a warning message every time bet limit is crossed or invalid slot game is played with deposit bonus so that players are aware about the internal working of that particular casino because most of the players place high bets than $20 almost in hope of winning big. 3)Customer support should mail or pm the player if they are violating the casino rules immediately so that no further loss is incurred. 4)Being a gambler always try to read T&C of each and every casino you are involved in or placing bets on so that you are aware what they offer.
Hope you understand these things and try to be more clear in future and save your funds and winnings.
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April 30, 2021, 07:19:28 PM |
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This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Yep it's true that really important to read all the terms of conditions in all things. Before I always check the "I accept" button when I'm downloading something in my phone or when opening website. Then my cellphone got viruses and runs slowly. After that incident I realized that we should read carefully and thoroughly all the terms and conditions in all aspect from the small things to most important things like business and other important documents. We all made mistakes and it's normal. The most important is we learn from it. I'm sure you never skip reading of any terms and conditions.
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April 30, 2021, 07:44:57 PM |
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This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Yep it's true that really important to read all the terms of conditions in all things. Before I always check the "I accept" button when I'm downloading something in my phone or when opening website. Then my cellphone got viruses and runs slowly. After that incident I realized that we should read carefully and thoroughly all the terms and conditions in all aspect from the small things to most important things like business and other important documents. We all made mistakes and it's normal. The most important is we learn from it. I'm sure you never skip reading of any terms and conditions. When it comes to those prompts in installations then its a bit common behavior for us to agree all the way since we do really rush up on installing the said app or program.. Same goes to windowns program installations or making some downloads and having some prompts which we do mostly ignore.Its always been important that you do know how to read up even on the slightest detail because this will really be helpful for you to get aware on what are the things that you can probably experience along the way and once you are aware then you can simply skip out or do know to avoid nor really need to comply something for your own benefit.
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Yep it's true that really important to read all the terms of conditions in all things. Before I always check the "I accept" button when I'm downloading something in my phone or when opening website. Then my cellphone got viruses and runs slowly. After that incident I realized that we should read carefully and thoroughly all the terms and conditions in all aspect from the small things to most important things like business and other important documents. We all made mistakes and it's normal. The most important is we learn from it. I'm sure you never skip reading of any terms and conditions.
TBH, nobody has the time to read such T&C of any website they register at (and I'm not talking specifically about gambling sites). That's because time is money and you already know a gambler's mind, he just wants to crash the casino by winning everything there, and for that, he needs to start gambling quickly that he doesn't even give a damn about what he will face once he actually wins huge at that casino, for eg.; He is told that "We are closing your account due to: - Multiple accounts found - You come from a country which is not supported - You come from a country where gambling is illegal - You were not allowed to gamble above a cap of $... but you still tried to break the rules by gambling more than that - and blah blah blah...
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April 30, 2021, 07:59:40 PM |
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A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
We should also understand that these gambling platforms are out for profits and nothing will give out profit "if" there are no traps set for those who can't read platforms TOS. Something like this happened to me some years back with some online courier company, after placing my orders with the best deal, i forget to read about their agreement and when the time of delivering came they sent me some messages that my country wasn't among the country for such deals, then, return my funds and my account was suspended till-date.
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April 30, 2021, 08:45:28 PM |
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A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
We should also understand that these gambling platforms are out for profits and nothing will give out profit "if" there are no traps set for those who can't read platforms TOS. Something like this happened to me some years back with some online courier company, after placing my orders with the best deal, i forget to read about their agreement and when the time of delivering came they sent me some messages that my country wasn't among the country for such deals, then, return my funds and my account was suspended till-date. Not actually a trap because it had been said or mentioned in the TOS in the very beginning. Its just people who are neglecting on reading it up until they havent notice that they had already violated the terms and expecting that they can really pull off those wins in the site until the management or admin will really make out some hold of funds due to violation of terms and then suddenly they whine and telling the site is a scam or being shady but actually the main fault was actually on you.So we should really be aware.
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May 01, 2021, 03:18:05 AM |
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A very unpleasant situation, which is another reminder that you should always read the user agreement before using any gambling site.
In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
We should also understand that these gambling platforms are out for profits and nothing will give out profit "if" there are no traps set for those who can't read platforms TOS. Something like this happened to me some years back with some online courier company, after placing my orders with the best deal, i forget to read about their agreement and when the time of delivering came they sent me some messages that my country wasn't among the country for such deals, then, return my funds and my account was suspended till-date. I think that is not a trap because it is written on their TOS so when new people want to register on their site, they need to read TOS and understand the rule from the site. That will help the gamblers break the rule and safely play gambling on that casino. The recommended casino will not try to trap their members because that will relate to their reputations and if their members have a problem, they will help solve it.
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May 01, 2021, 03:58:38 AM |
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At least you learned a valuable lesson. These casino bonuses come with strings attached almost every time. It is important to read the terms very carefully so you know what the wagering requirements are and determine if you want to accept the bonus. These requirements are usually designed to minimize the possibility of you walking away with a large amount of money.
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May 01, 2021, 08:50:51 AM |
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At least you learned a valuable lesson. These casino bonuses come with strings attached almost every time. It is important to read the terms very carefully so you know what the wagering requirements are and determine if you want to accept the bonus. These requirements are usually designed to minimize the possibility of you walking away with a large amount of money.
Yes because sometimes that the Terms is just a trap and waiting for your mistake and then boom you will be a Victim . look at the reputation section and in scam ANN thread , you will find almost similar on your case.
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May 01, 2021, 08:57:11 AM |
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In my opinion, the gambling site should have programmatically made it impossible to bet from the bonus account on the listed games and introduced the necessary limits. Otherwise, it all looks very much like a not entirely honest business, with its creators covering their actions with a user agreement.
Most of them do restrict games that are not meant to be played with your bonus balance. It's so silly that the OP lost his winnings this way...It's like a restaurant has poisonous stuff in their menu but they stated about them somewhere on the last page of their menu with 2pt font size.
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May 01, 2021, 08:57:49 AM |
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This shows how important is to always read the terms and conditions and even more important when you are using your bonus which usually has even more terms and conditions applied before you withdraw.Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you now never skip a reading of any term and conditions anymore.
Yep it's true that really important to read all the terms of conditions in all things. Before I always check the "I accept" button when I'm downloading something in my phone or when opening website. Then my cellphone got viruses and runs slowly. After that incident I realized that we should read carefully and thoroughly all the terms and conditions in all aspect from the small things to most important things like business and other important documents. We all made mistakes and it's normal. The most important is we learn from it. I'm sure you never skip reading of any terms and conditions. When it comes to those prompts in installations then its a bit common behavior for us to agree all the way since we do really rush up on installing the said app or program.. Specially if this was introduced to you from a friend or people you know. Same goes to windowns program installations or making some downloads and having some prompts which we do mostly ignore.Its always been important that you do know how to read up
And not skipping everything because sometimes it is the motive of those site to trick us from not interested in reading those prompt. even on the slightest detail because this will really be helpful for you to get aware on what are the things that you can probably experience along the way and once you are aware
Even those Legit Site has this and must be implemented at any cause because this will be their bread and butter if we failed to understand. then you can simply skip out or do know to avoid nor really need to comply something for your own benefit.
If you are not willing to understand the rules then never deal with those site or else suffer from your laziness .
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