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May 19, 2021, 02:03:29 PM
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There were alot of tweets from him over this past weekend.
At one point he was asking why bitcoin wasn't faster and why not centralize the mining for it - in a sense.
Someone told him, what does he think BCash/BSV was all about? Wink

The thing is he is commenting on crypto and bitcoin without any experience or research into it and to me that is dangerous to do since there alot of people (I call them musketeers) who hang on his every word, as yesterday's one worded tweet shown this to be true, and can cause irreparable damage to any cryptocurrency he is concentrating on.
In this instance it was bitcoin, but could of been done to any coin he chooses.
And this to me can be very dangerous in the current market we all are in.

I don't think that EM has never done any previous research on crypto because he is such a smart person that even in taking short profits for just 2 months he has already made a profit of 128 M USD on selling 10% of his BTC.  But what I really regret about all of his words, why are there so many coins on the market, only DOGE is fully supported by him?  This is just a meme coin on all coins with good fundamentals, why not another coin.  Very disappointing, he seemed to be gambling with a large capital.
I think that he has done research about bitcoin and other altcoin.
Why he choose dogecoin because if he can get let say 30% until 50% total supply within 2019 till 2020 and promote them at the end of the year.
How much he can earn now?

By mastering a certain proportion of Dogecoin it will be very easy to increase and decrease the price in the market until it gets its biggest profit.  Look at the results of his deeds, the market is out of control while he has already earned hundreds of millions of USD in profits.  It is very, very extraordinary, great at doing mass fooling.
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May 20, 2021, 11:50:44 AM
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It is hard to say if he is just acting the fool or trying to make others look the fool at this point. Undecided
He tried to do what he did to tesla and it's stock but for cryptocurrencies back in February when he questioned if the stock was too high, then of course those who held tsla panic sold.

Well there were alot of messages like this one sent to his twitter feed from unhappy people of what he is doing:

It could be just people trolling the troll on his twitter but there isn't a doubt in my mind people did lose alot because he can not just shut it about cryptocurrency and feels there is a need to talk about it every now and again just to laugh at others cause he sees it all as just a joke to him.


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May 20, 2021, 12:37:40 PM
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The guy is a clown. He can have all the money in the world but he is behaving like a 2 year old kid, he's disgusting. Why people worship such an idiot I have no idea and will never will. Some people never stop to amaze me.

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May 20, 2021, 08:24:14 PM
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I believe that the role of Elon Musk in the cryptocurrency world is greatly exaggerated and the attention to his statements is overblown. Rather, he decided to play around and draw more attention to himself and to Tesla. Yes, he is a cult personality of cosmic proportions, and it would be better if he was busy with his rockets than to climb with his dubious opinion into the cryptocurrency market, because the market will put everything in its place anyway.
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May 20, 2021, 08:35:19 PM
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It is hard to say if he is just acting the fool or trying to make others look the fool at this point. Undecided
He tried to do what he did to tesla and it's stock but for cryptocurrencies back in February when he questioned if the stock was too high, then of course those who held tsla panic sold.

Well there were alot of messages like this one sent to his twitter feed from unhappy people of what he is doing:

It could be just people trolling the troll on his twitter but there isn't a doubt in my mind people did lose alot because he can not just shut it about cryptocurrency and feels there is a need to talk about it every now and again just to laugh at others cause he sees it all as just a joke to him.


i hate Ellon musk and i don't think he just wants money, he doesn't care about crypto, his main goal is to make profit out of it, and speaking of people saying that Ellon was the reason they lost, and some shit about being homeless, i think they should be adults about it, nobody forced them to invest in doge, and nobody guaranteed for them profits from crypto, it's their own choices and they should take responsibility for their actions.

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May 20, 2021, 08:50:09 PM
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The guy is a clown. He can have all the money in the world but he is behaving like a 2 year old kid, he's disgusting. Why people worship such an idiot I have no idea and will never will. Some people never stop to amaze me.
We do have only 2 types of people when it comes to this on where there are people whom do see him as a 2 year old kid and to those people whom do see him as a God or Idol when it comes to this market.
When some billionaires tend out to jump into this market then that automatically counts as a business.They arent here just for nothing, he might shown some passion or support to crypto but
anytime could really make a u-turn if he wanted too and viola it did happen and now majority of the community does changed up their views to this guy.
This is just an another clown that had existed on this market.

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May 22, 2021, 01:19:26 PM
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There was a podcast by a well known celebrity in the technology space who put in their take on why tesla flipped on bitcoin when they said they would be accepting it and then all the sudden announced they would not after having bought millions worth of the cryptocurrency spurring the bull run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsRQE0O2_XY
They both have a good sense of what tesla was trying to do but failed miserably at their attempt because all they were looking for was publicity but they received the bad kind and it showed in their stock plummeting after the trace back on what they had said. Most think it was because of what Elon said about cryptocurrency mining being bad for the environment and with his company looking to receive these carbon credits from the US government to companies being green and supporting technologies toward their target of emitting carbon zero emissions by the year 2030.

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May 22, 2021, 01:35:46 PM
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It is hard to say if he is just acting the fool or trying to make others look the fool at this point. Undecided
He tried to do what he did to tesla and it's stock but for cryptocurrencies back in February when he questioned if the stock was too high, then of course those who held tsla panic sold.

Well there were alot of messages like this one sent to his twitter feed from unhappy people of what he is doing:

It could be just people trolling the troll on his twitter but there isn't a doubt in my mind people did lose alot because he can not just shut it about cryptocurrency and feels there is a need to talk about it every now and again just to laugh at others cause he sees it all as just a joke to him.


i hate Ellon musk and i don't think he just wants money, he doesn't care about crypto, his main goal is to make profit out of it, and speaking of people saying that Ellon was the reason they lost, and some shit about being homeless, i think they should be adults about it, nobody forced them to invest in doge, and nobody guaranteed for them profits from crypto, it's their own choices and they should take responsibility for their actions.

Everyone wants to make money and so does Elon Musk. Name any individual in the world who is here not for the money ? However i don't like people who manipulates the market to move it in their direction.
Don't blame Elon musk, if you bought dogecoin and are in loss. It was your own decision. Show me any tweet where he said to "Buy dogecoin"

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May 22, 2021, 03:47:04 PM
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^^
He didn't straight out say buy doge coin but he is supporting it by accepting it for a space x launch and also stated working with the devs dogecoin.
So he is heavily endorsed towards making it overthrow other coins including bitcoin in the future.

Here is an interesting post on reddit I was reading in the past couple of days about what another skeptic thinks about what is progressing with him being involved in the cryptocurrency space whether it is right or wrong for those who support bitcoin.

Why Elon trashing Bitcoin is great news
I will just sum up the facts:
Tesla has problems with Chinese Gov (where most bitcoin miners are located).
-Tesla shares have been falling for months.
-Coinbase was the most downloaded app in the AppStore a couple of weeks ago.
-Drukenmiller questioned the central banks actions, said the US dollar was going to lose the status reserve in less than 15 years and crypto was the answer for such irresponsible policies.
-Investment banks are going to begin commercialize the crypto investment products to their clients but these products won't be available until Q3-Q4 2021.
So now, why would Elon Musk changed his tune about bitcoin? Well I bet there could be several reasons:
US Gov using him to scare the shit out of new unexperienced investors given that FUD tactics haven't worked until now because they want to prevent crypto adoption as a means of payment as they would lose control of money.
Corporate investors and investment banking using him to sink the price so that they can buy low and the sell high once they have their products ready, in exchange tesla gets included in all kind of investment funds.
Musk pumping un dumping for the fun and making tons of money of his delusional fans.
Honestly I don't care which of these reasons could be true, I am just speculating about potential reasons that could lead Elon Musk to do this, because one thing is clear, he has some kind of incentive to trash bitcoin and shake out retail investors.
He knew very well how mining works, he event answered to a tweet from Jack Dorsey that bitcoin incentivized renewable energies, only to change his tune 3 weeks later. Of course, his space X rockets, his litium mines in Africa and his gigafactory in Texas and China where most energy comes from fossil fuels don't pollute.
So please use your head and not your emotions when deciding if you buy, sell or hold. For me, it is clear what to do.


source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ndxvmr/why_elon_trashing_bitcoin_is_great_news

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May 24, 2021, 06:12:39 PM
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So looks like the founder of ethereum is starting to get all riled up with Elon Musk stating that even doge coin is more scalable than his coin alongside with bitcoin.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/vitalik-why-elon-musk-s-plan-for-scaling-crypto-10x-is-fundamentally-flawed
He was upset at what Vitalik said about him to cointelegraph cause he replied to their article with the following post:


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Checked some of the mainstream media sites. Now everyone is praising Elon for the recent recovery. They are claiming that Elon softened his stance on Bitcoin, and that helped the coin to recover. Those who are having a basic understanding of cryptocurrency would be able to tell that this is just BS. Elon Musk is overrated and a lot of things that are credited to him have nothing to do with him. From what I have heard, the recent recovery has more to do with the clarification of government action from China, rather than any statement from Elon.
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As I had mentioned in another post earlier for this thread, I'd include a video in which I discovered just recently about how this ceo operates his company and the methods he had used in the past to acquire each and every one of them.
So here it is where I watched the second part first then ended up looking for the first part to see where the condemnation for this guy came from. And after watching them both I can see where it all stemmed up from and I think you will too.
The Debunking of Elon Musk

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DopFo1rjAr4

Elon Musk - Why I hate bitcoin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWo3Y6GOius

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May 25, 2021, 02:21:07 PM
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I think he's doing it for both cryptocurrency and Tesla. First they happily boasted that they are in cryptocurrency as well as microstrategy, second they accepted Bitcoin as a payment, third is they adopted Dogecoin as well that hype the coin, fourth they take back what they've said about Bitcoin as a payment method on buying their cars that in my opinion cause a sudden price dump and they took the opportunity to buy the dip secretly, that's only my theory about it.

Elon is a smart guy, and there's no way he'd neglect totally the opportunity of making more money on buying the dip and for sure he'll hype it up again foe easy profits.

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Elon is a smart guy, and there's no way he'd neglect totally the opportunity of making more money on buying the dip and for sure he'll hype it up again foe easy profits.
He did lose a lot of followers for being too smart.  Cheesy
If he is really that smart enough, he would make a better reason than just talking about Bitcoin as an environment disaster. I doubt he didn't know that before he bought it. Just like you said, he is a smart guy right?
I don't think he really give a fuck about cryptocurrencies, yes it's all just money and profits for him. Suddenly, he made cryptocurrencies as a new target for his manipulation. I'd be careful on what name he will suggest next time. The scary thing he might do is pull investors in a new cryptocurrency then leave it saying his sorry he made a mistake.

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May 27, 2021, 12:51:37 PM
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Elon is a smart guy, and there's no way he'd neglect totally the opportunity of making more money on buying the dip and for sure he'll hype it up again foe easy profits.
He did lose a lot of followers for being too smart.
If he is really that smart enough, he would make a better reason than just talking about Bitcoin as an environment disaster. I doubt he didn't know that before he bought it. Just like you said, he is a smart guy right?
I don't think he really give a fuck about cryptocurrencies, yes it's all just money and profits for him. Suddenly, he made cryptocurrencies as a new target for his manipulation. I'd be careful on what name he will suggest next time. The scary thing he might do is pull investors in a new cryptocurrency then leave it saying his sorry he made a mistake.
I have no disagreement on what you just said and actually got me thinking about the last part of your reply.
I remember someone during all these youtube videos released from countless sources during the past few weeks after him calling Saylor a GigaChad. Grin
Elon Musk is just gathering as much information as he can so he can create his own cryptocurrency.
What are your thoughts about this revelation of all the nonsense he has been causing on twitter and with his massive number of followers who will certainly buy into his coin offering.

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May 27, 2021, 12:59:31 PM
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Elon is a smart guy, and there's no way he'd neglect totally the opportunity of making more money on buying the dip and for sure he'll hype it up again foe easy profits.
He did lose a lot of followers for being too smart.
If he is really that smart enough, he would make a better reason than just talking about Bitcoin as an environment disaster. I doubt he didn't know that before he bought it. Just like you said, he is a smart guy right?
I don't think he really give a fuck about cryptocurrencies, yes it's all just money and profits for him. Suddenly, he made cryptocurrencies as a new target for his manipulation. I'd be careful on what name he will suggest next time. The scary thing he might do is pull investors in a new cryptocurrency then leave it saying his sorry he made a mistake.
Elon Musk is just gathering as much information as he can so he can create his own cryptocurrency.
What are your thoughts about this revelation of all the nonsense he has been causing on twitter and with his massive number of followers who will certainly buy into his coin offering.
Doesn't sounds good if he create his own cryptocurrency since his coin will became a pump and dump scheme which he is the only one who can get a sure profit from this activities remember what he do on tesla stocks and this might provably happen if he want to create his own coin to.

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May 28, 2021, 11:43:36 AM
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^^
Yet so many others with such celebrity status and a huge amount of followers are doing the exact same thing if not in a different way.
There was some evidence of this with the this being released to the public via another social media platform:

This is a common practice. Each and every popular face try to make money out of their popularity. Elon Musk made it openly, whereas others play indirect games. Now what I see with Elon Musk, he'll use the cryptocurrency market to make money and popularize his Tesla and SpaceX. Once he finds Tesla and SpaceX to make a big growth he'll just leave the market causing big dump.

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^^
Yet so many others with such celebrity status and a huge amount of followers are doing the exact same thing if not in a different way.
There was some evidence of this with  it being released to the public via another social media platform:
https://www.coindesk.com/soulja-boy-tweet-safermars-sec-touting

He received an email to promote a coin but he copy & pasted it exactly along with the part of how much he would get paid to send it to all his followers on twitter.
See how skewed the crypto market can be with people who accept these spammers who email all these celebrities to promote their coin?

Just look at this guy who was a mailman a year ago then all the sudden became Crypto Messiah known on his twitter/telegram feed who made over $60 million on Shiba Inu from just a single tweet from Musk about buying a Shiba dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWdw5X504Dg

Hadn't even known this coin existed for so long as I thought it was one of those which just all the sudden popped up from the dogecoin craze earlier in January from Elon tweets.

Interesting interview to say the least about that hodling mentality for any coins you may have even for bitcoin.

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I think that Musk uses crypto only to promote his Tesla and SpaceX. Or he is like most of us - not care much about technology and processes, but use crypto just to earn. There is a small chance that he will use crypto or blockchain in his Neurolink, but this company is a deep forest for me. Everything is still under development and it is to early to predict when first "brain interfaces" will be released.

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Did anyone mention his late agenda regarding "green" mining etc in the US? Given that this guy is one of the largest manufacturers in solar power equipment I find it hard to believe he won't try to push his "green" stuff to miners, while lobbying legislation supporting it.

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