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May 17, 2021, 09:38:45 AM
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I could have red-flagged a couple more, considering that the recent dip can be attributed at least in part to Elon.


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May 17, 2021, 09:52:51 AM
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... considering that the recent dip can be attributed at least in part to Elon.

I think you pretty much answered that yourself  Cheesy

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May 17, 2021, 09:58:14 AM
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As I wrote 3 days ago:
If you guys want to ignore the troll from that small battery car maker: why is he mentioned in all of the posts on this page?
Don't feed the troll!
Too many people care for the BS this billionaire troll posts on an unimportant website. And because so many people seem to care for no reason at all, all his BS turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Or as I also wrote:
Bitcoin doesn't care about that small car manufacturer.
I've seen FUD from so many different directions (China, bankers, governments, trolls), and every time people start dumping their Bitcoin. At the same time, other people buy their coins at a discount. FUD is meant to trigger stop losses and make people sell their coins.

I'd love to have a -Elon -Musk -Tesla filter on Bitcointalk, so I wouldn't even see this topic and wouldn't have posted here.



As for the topic title: Clearly Cheesy
People shouldn't believe a multi-billionaire shares their interests.

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May 17, 2021, 10:08:00 AM
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People on the forum have different main interests at different times. There are times the forum was flooded with topics about following aspects: merit-related, trust-related, Covid-19 and pandemic, US President election, China bans on crypto, etc.

Elon, Tesla topics will be tailed off soon because the crypto market will have other hotter topics.

Is it good to lock your topic?  Smiley

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May 17, 2021, 10:26:47 AM
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Is it good to lock your topic?  Smiley

I usually lock my topics, when I see there is no much to be added. I'm not going to do it yet but you can report it and let the moderators decide. Apart from that, the thread might die by itself (by nobody else replying).

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May 17, 2021, 10:39:36 AM
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You can't really prevent creation of gazillion Elon Musk topics but this is destroying any real conversation and it's turning this forum into circus show.
One option is to ignore creators of this topics or maybe report some of them for duplicate topics and wait for moderators reaction.

I'd love to have a -Elon -Musk -Tesla filter on Bitcointalk, so I wouldn't even see this topic and wouldn't have posted here.
I wonder if suchmoon can add this optional feature to BPIP extension, this would be brilliant and I would use it not onlyfor Elon Musk but for other words and phrases.
He can than rename this extension to something better like BPIP Swiss knife Smiley

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May 17, 2021, 10:55:04 AM
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Crypto community in general is paying too much attention to Elon and his shenanigans so I am not surprised to see it here too, but I think that's the usual case on Bitcoin Discussion board, to talk about whatever is the hottest subject at the moment. So one day is Elon, another day is something else etc so business as usual I would say.


One option is to ignore creators of this topics or maybe report some of them for duplicate topics and wait for moderators reaction.
Bolded part should be done more often. If more people report duplicate topics, I am sure that mods will react and do something about it.

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May 17, 2021, 11:12:41 AM
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It's really a shame for the crypto community. It's really funny how this man "uses" the highest part of the community the way he wishes. He pumps prises, then dumps. He manages prices the way he wants. It means that Elon has a huge influence on people and they blindly follow the Elon Scam.

Oh, I loved the way cryptocurrencies were rising in 2017, there was no Elon, only healthy and meaningful rise but now? I don't want to trade in such crypto market. Who could imagine that Doge would rise so significantly, who? I believe this man can make stone valuable if he wants, it's just a psychological factor.

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May 17, 2021, 11:27:20 AM
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He pumps prises, then dumps. He manages prices the way he wants. It means that Elon has a huge influence on people and they blindly follow the Elon Scam.
This sounds like work for the SEC, but they're usually quite slow. So if anything's going to happen, it'll be months from now.

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Don't you think some people in the forum are giving too much importance to Elon?

The amazing part of this is how it wasn't a problem at all when Saint Elon was being praised just a few weeks ago.

Posts mentioning "elon" or "musk" by month:

Code:
January    996
February  4052
March     1715
April     2151
May       3781

Ok, there is a bit of an increase and the month is not over yet but it's not a huge change in giving him importance, just that it turned negative recently.

The guy is a fucking clown. He's getting away with all sorts of shit just because he's a Wall Street darling. Exactly the type of person bitcoiners should stay away from but somehow we thought he's gonna be good for Bitcoin. Just like those kids on Reddit thinking that by giving Wall Street their money (buying GME stock or some shit like that) they're rebelling against the system. SMH.

Edit: adjusted numbers to account for some duplicates and words like "felon" (LOL).
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words like "felon" (LOL).
Patience Cheesy

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May 17, 2021, 04:02:14 PM
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It's really a shame for the crypto community. It's really funny how this man "uses" the highest part of the community the way he wishes. He pumps prises, then dumps. He manages prices the way he wants. It means that Elon has a huge influence on people and they blindly follow the Elon Scam.

Oh, I loved the way cryptocurrencies were rising in 2017, there was no Elon, only healthy and meaningful rise but now? I don't want to trade in such crypto market. Who could imagine that Doge would rise so significantly, who? I believe this man can make stone valuable if he wants, it's just a psychological factor.

Billionaire making billions on dumbs and people still get wet on him, hahaha...

Both influencers and politicians share such similarities by knowing how to fool the masses through sweet talks Grin

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It's really a shame for the crypto community. It's really funny how this man "uses" the highest part of the community the way he wishes. He pumps prises, then dumps. He manages prices the way he wants. It means that Elon has a huge influence on people and they blindly follow the Elon Scam.

Oh, I loved the way cryptocurrencies were rising in 2017, there was no Elon, only healthy and meaningful rise but now? I don't want to trade in such crypto market. Who could imagine that Doge would rise so significantly, who? I believe this man can make stone valuable if he wants, it's just a psychological factor.

Billionaire making billions on dumbs and people still get wet on him, hahaha...
Truth to be told, it is not exactly a shame "for" the community, as it is "on" the community.

Truth is: the crypto community is as much of a herd as one could imagine, all trying to find their leader which can guide them to riches.

Elon is the perfect embodiment to this sentiment. I'd argue that it's not even his fault to leverage these kinds of opportunities when they present themselves.

Really, the "current" "crypto community" is nothing more than a bunch of braindead losers thinking that they can somehow get rich quick. I'm not sure if this has always been that way (certainly the 2017 bull run was that too), but this makes crypto even more sad that fiat, IMO. Sure, there are a couple smart developers here and there, but the average crypto user does not use crypto for it's inherent properties ("speed", "privacy"), but is merely a degenerate gambler coping with their poor financial situation. I myself am guilty of this.

Elon just plays into this sentiment in a rather bland and obvious manner, and I really just wonder how long it is going to take for people to realize that he is the poor definition of an antichrist.

On that note; I've come to the realization that perhaps it has always been that way -- and perhaps it is beneficial to adoption, but first and foremost, it's just really sad. At this point, 99% of coins work as a HYIP without the payout. A lottery. -- Everyone pools their fiat money in coins, the first ones to take their fiat back out before it starts crumbling are the winners, the rest will stay losers. -- this is crypto, and perhaps has always been crypto.

All coins are overvalued, based on nothing but pure speculation of the masses. It almost makes me want to just go back to fiat again. Sure, you can say that this is an inherent property of a currency, but really, it is not. I hate what bitcoin has become. Hodlers my ass. It has nothing to do with revolutionizing the way transactions are conducted. Zilch. It's the hypesquad all the way to the bank.


You know - it all makes sense though. Crypto is this sort of opposition against the current financial system, and thus once mainstream it's followers will most likely be the losers under the current system. Though crypto is not an alternative. It's not even comparable. It's just their faux ticket to dreamland.

I don't know. All this commotion too; it just feels like crypto as a whole has been drenched in this loser-mentality "Oh noooo elon don't hurt my stonks!!!!!!!", but as I said, perhaps this is/was an inevitable property of crypto.

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I think it's nothing surprising. It happens everywhere, not just on Bitcointalk. I'm not even talking about Twitter. Musk is probably hottest topic in crypto now, so, nothing surprising that every his action get so much attention. Same things with lot of topics about one hot subject happened here many times already.
It's normal thing how he manipulate market and I hate all this madness (despite that thanks to Musk I made nice money with DOGE), but it's not going to last forever. Patience.

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Elon, Tesla topics will be tailed off soon because the crypto market will have other hotter topics.
Yeah, that's pretty much what happens with these "hot" news stories.  Yes, there are probably way too many threads about Elon Musk/Tesla, but just give it a day or two and they'll start getting buried by newer threads.

Given that bitcoin dropped massively since Musk shot off his mouth (and sold all that bitcoin), it's kind of an important topic of discussion--but we don't need 10 different threads dealing with the same stuff. 

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May 17, 2021, 09:51:20 PM
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It's just bad. Elon did a clever move to earn a lot of money, to be fair, it was one of the most clever step that I have seen recently. There is nothing as amazing when you can put money in coin and then "legally" push the price to skyrocket. I am amazed why other famous people missed such a great chance.
Elon's behavior is bad but the truth is truth, the root of the problem are people, not Elon. The sad fact that I see here is how people follow Elon, not Elon's actions.

Really, the "current" "crypto community" is nothing more than a bunch of braindead losers thinking that they can somehow get rich quick.
The early years were the sweetest ones. Crypto was really the crypto, after that, it got abused and turned into a serious business.

All coins are overvalued, based on nothing but pure speculation of the masses.
Agreed! The prices are insanely huge. Even 10x lower prices could perform well, for some coins - 100x lower if not more. Dogecoin worths 0.5 USD, haha, who could imagine Cheesy I had tons of them years ago and that's because someone gifted or etc. In a world where dogecoin worths 0.5$, one thing is pretty clear, society has some serious problems.



Given that bitcoin dropped massively since Musk shot off his mouth (and sold all that bitcoin), it's kind of an important topic of discussion--but we don't need 10 different threads dealing with the same stuff.  
This dump at least showed that 1/3 of btc users were cognitively numb. Why 1/3? I guess they were Elon's followers.

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May 18, 2021, 03:20:48 AM
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Elon<>first name<>Musk is now in praise:>now he's a [god] curse, thanks to the 1,500 Btc in his pocket.

Currently<>suppose; Elon tweeted<>please clean my toilet<>I'll give you 2 Btc, I guarantee thousands of people will do it.



In case<>the topic about Elon seems annoying on a particular board<>is actually easy to get rid of.<Mod You only need to press the delete button, everything is in order <the topic about Elon is guaranteed to be out of sight and clean, that's when people will talk about Bitcoin again.

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All I have to say about it.

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May 18, 2021, 01:35:32 PM
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Elon Musk has 54 million followers in twitter. He is the CEO of Tesla and CTO / chief designer of SpaceX. He is one of the richest person with around 150 billion USD net worth. So you can't say that he isn't important ?
We may differ with his opinion about the cryptocurrencies but you cannot take away the importance and success which he had gained in all these years.

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May 18, 2021, 02:18:26 PM
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I'd love to have a -Elon -Musk -Tesla filter on Bitcointalk, so I wouldn't even see this topic and wouldn't have posted here.

Unfortunately, I think that would be a bad idea.  As much as I would like the pump-and-dump scammer to STFU, ignoring him could be more damaging than putting up with the hype.  Lets face it; he has influence and until the cryptoverse learns to ignore him, that's not going away.


The guy is a fucking clown.

He's more than that, he's a fucking scammer.

Tesla is a company run on fear.  They employ a lot of people who work in a similar manufacturing environment as I do.  Being a local company I've had interactions with engineers who work for them, and although they are paid a handsome salary, they are also expected to work 60 to 70 hours a week.  Those who work for him will refer to him as an "opportunist."  I don't thing the word "opportunist" automatically has bad connotations, but ethics should be considered for every oportunity.

He's getting away with all sorts of shit just because he's a Wall Street darling.

Ironically he said some shit on Twatter to pump Tesla stock about year and half ago, and the feds slapped him with a $20m fine.  So now that he's learned not to fuck with Wall Street, he decided to try his influence on meme coins.

Edit: adjusted numbers to account for some duplicates and words like "felon" (LOL).

Shit, I already used the word "irony" in this post.

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