[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21

[virasisog]

It was already confirmed just an hour or so ago. I personally want a Mayweather rematch but I guess that ain't gonna happen. At Pacquiao's age, I believe he can still put out a show and be able to showcase his speed and power on the ring. Errol Spence Jr., though an already proven fighter on his own regard, will be having a hard time to keep up with the old man. Still, it's a fight that he will surely cherish for most of his career. I'm seeing Pacquiao as the favorite, but counting out Spence Jr's skill might be a mistake too.

Everyone wants Mayweather rematch but as you know Mayweather already retired to take care of his records and he is focused on making money fighting unprofessional boxers like Logan Paul and McGregor.

Even Manny is not in his prime he still had the speed and power, and not to mention countless experience in boxing.  Age is not a great factor here. So this will be a goodmatch against spence Jr. who is at his prime.

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[peter0425]

Even he doesn't have a fight for two long years, he never stopped in maintaining his physique and it's already part of his life and routine to have training but it's totally different if there's a match. Most that he can will be into it and he's not underestimating his opponent for real but only in words.

That was not a disadvantage on his part, he said that the long rest helped him to recover and we will surely see a conditioned Manny comes August 21 against Spence. We never see him unconditioned when he stepped up in the ring, In the last fight maybe he got tired because he is not getting any younger, but still that is overshadowed by the success since he won by a split decision.

Manny will do everything to win because this will be part of His advance campaigning for His political career in Philippines , and also there are rumors that Mafia is interfering from His fight so maybe they will participate again this time to favor manny.

this is also the reason why Boxing nowadays are getting lesser fans because of the issues happening inside the system.

[owengtam09]

I am just wishing that Pacquiao will have the same rigid training before the fight. Because it is a matter of preparation on how he will perform inside the ring.

He's always on the go and never stops in training. Whenever he's going to have his match, he's ready for it and won't settle for easy training. If it's about the preparation, he's always prepared and doesn't settle for the low standards that he knows whenever there's an important match up long before the fight day.

It has been like a couple of years from his last fight. So those 2 years, will be a big factor when it comes to his readiness. But for sure, he always wants to give a toe-to-toe fight, which is more worth to watch than these exhibition fights.

Even he doesn't have a fight for two long years, he never stopped in maintaining his physique and it's already part of his life and routine to have training but it's totally different if there's a match. Most that he can be into it and he's not underestimating his opponent for real but only in words.

I am sure that his rest for 2 years long has a purpose because he said he wants to recover. I am not sure if where he wants to get recover on something, but for sure there's a purpose, hopefully, he doesn't just say that for the confidence of the people who's supporting him and waited for him for so long. This is such a big fight and for sure he knows it.

[btc_angela]

Even he doesn't have a fight for two long years, he never stopped in maintaining his physique and it's already part of his life and routine to have training but it's totally different if there's a match. Most that he can will be into it and he's not underestimating his opponent for real but only in words.

That was not a disadvantage on his part, he said that the long rest helped him to recover and we will surely see a conditioned Manny comes August 21 against Spence. We never see him unconditioned when he stepped up in the ring, In the last fight maybe he got tired because he is not getting any younger, but still that is overshadowed by the success since he won by a split decision.

Manny will do everything to win because this will be part of His advance campaigning for His political career in Philippines , and also there are rumors that Mafia is interfering from His fight so maybe they will participate again this time to favor manny.

this is also the reason why Boxing nowadays are getting lesser fans because of the issues happening inside the system.

I'm not aware that Mafia is interfering on Pacquiao's fight though.

Of course Manny will always give 100% every fight and hate to loss. And the stakes are high here, that's why he will push himself to win. Regardless of his political ambition, with the money he will get from this fight, for sure he can used it for his campaigns.

But the most important thing is that Manny needs to win and cemented his legacy as one of the best boxer in the last 20 years.

[bisdak40]

Even he doesn't have a fight for two long years, he never stopped in maintaining his physique and it's already part of his life and routine to have training but it's totally different if there's a match. Most that he can will be into it and he's not underestimating his opponent for real but only in words.

That was not a disadvantage on his part, he said that the long rest helped him to recover and we will surely see a conditioned Manny comes August 21 against Spence. We never see him unconditioned when he stepped up in the ring, In the last fight maybe he got tired because he is not getting any younger, but still that is overshadowed by the success since he won by a split decision.

Manny will do everything to win because this will be part of His advance campaigning for His political career in Philippines , and also there are rumors that Mafia is interfering from His fight so maybe they will participate again this time to favor manny.

this is also the reason why Boxing nowadays are getting lesser fans because of the issues happening inside the system.

Win or lose, Manny is guaranteed to receive almost a billion Philippine Peso, this amount is so huge that it's a big help to his ambition to become the next President of the Philippines as he is very serious about getting that seat.

Mafia inside boxing? Well that's a big accusation to prove but seeing what have happened in recent years with those controversial decisions, there might some truth in it.

[blockman]

Even he doesn't have a fight for two long years, he never stopped in maintaining his physique and it's already part of his life and routine to have training but it's totally different if there's a match. Most that he can will be into it and he's not underestimating his opponent for real but only in words.

That was not a disadvantage on his part, he said that the long rest helped him to recover and we will surely see a conditioned Manny comes August 21 against Spence. We never see him unconditioned when he stepped up in the ring, In the last fight maybe he got tired because he is not getting any younger, but still that is overshadowed by the success since he won by a split decision.

Yes, as an athlete like him. Long rest are very important to them if they've been through a hard fight. It was a quick two years already that we didn't even notice that it has been so long already. Despite that he did rest for two years on his professional boxing career although it's known that he did other careers too.

Even he doesn't have a fight for two long years, he never stopped in maintaining his physique and it's already part of his life and routine to have training but it's totally different if there's a match. Most that he can be into it and he's not underestimating his opponent for real but only in words.

I am sure that his rest for 2 years long has a purpose because he said he wants to recover. I am not sure if where he wants to get recover on something, but for sure there's a purpose, hopefully, he doesn't just say that for the confidence of the people who's supporting him and waited for him for so long. This is such a big fight and for sure he knows it.

Yes, the purpose is for his better and faster recovery and which is favorable to him. He did recover for another fight and that's an upcoming match with Spence Jr.

[wxa7115]

Spence vows to KO Pacquiao, send legend into retirement

Counting the eggs again when the match is not yet started. I thought Spence is a humble guy so can't believe he is throwing words to the Legend. Better if he's just keep it to himself then do the actions on the ring on the actual fight. He is actually looks strong for me compare to Manny but with a behavior like that, I will not consider it now.

99% of boxers that throw words to Manny prior to the fight losses. Spence your next.

The fight has a no rematch clause so I will be happy if Spence will loss as he can't guarantee for a rematch and his bid to target World Boxing Organization champion Terence Crawford will be jeopardized.

Personally this is something I do not like about the world of boxing, I like to see the boxers demonstrating in the ring what they have, and this is precisely because of what you say, how many times people have said all kind of things about Manny and how many times Manny has been the one to show them they got nothing on him?

Well, that's how they market themselves to sell more tickets and ppv. Pacquiao was not known to hype things up by throwing the trash talks or any arrogant remarks. So, the opponent should do it.
 Nevertheless, Spence didn't say anything bad about Pacquiao he's just stating how ready he was that he feels stronger than ever and he's ready to send Pacquiao to retirement. I don't see anything wrong with that, It's just them typically hyping the match up. If you're annoyed by what Spence said, then the marketing is just so effective. 

I am not annoyed by I find it unnecessary, Manny is still fighting other professional fighters and not exhibitions so I will watch the fight and most people are like that, I could understand the need for it if we were talking about two unknown fighters trying to make a name for themselves, but we are talking about Manny, a living legend, so this is not necessary.

Even if Spence happened to win it was simply unnecessary to say things like this, it is better to show what you have on the ring and then say whatever you want once you win instead of doing it backwards, lose and then he will have to eat his words.

[Lanatsa]

Spence vows to KO Pacquiao, send legend into retirement

Counting the eggs again when the match is not yet started. I thought Spence is a humble guy so can't believe he is throwing words to the Legend. Better if he's just keep it to himself then do the actions on the ring on the actual fight. He is actually looks strong for me compare to Manny but with a behavior like that, I will not consider it now.

99% of boxers that throw words to Manny prior to the fight losses. Spence your next.

The fight has a no rematch clause so I will be happy if Spence will loss as he can't guarantee for a rematch and his bid to target World Boxing Organization champion Terence Crawford will be jeopardized.

Personally this is something I do not like about the world of boxing, I like to see the boxers demonstrating in the ring what they have, and this is precisely because of what you say, how many times people have said all kind of things about Manny and how many times Manny has been the one to show them they got nothing on him?

Well, that's how they market themselves to sell more tickets and ppv. Pacquiao was not known to hype things up by throwing the trash talks or any arrogant remarks. So, the opponent should do it.
 Nevertheless, Spence didn't say anything bad about Pacquiao he's just stating how ready he was that he feels stronger than ever and he's ready to send Pacquiao to retirement. I don't see anything wrong with that, It's just them typically hyping the match up. If you're annoyed by what Spence said, then the marketing is just so effective. 

I am not annoyed by I find it unnecessary, Manny is still fighting other professional fighters and not exhibitions so I will watch the fight and most people are like that, I could understand the need for it if we were talking about two unknown fighters trying to make a name for themselves, but we are talking about Manny, a living legend, so this is not necessary.

Even if Spence happened to win it was simply unnecessary to say things like this, it is better to show what you have on the ring and then say whatever you want once you win instead of doing it backwards, lose and then he will have to eat his words.

It might not look appealing for you but this is how the business works on where boxers would really be part of its job to make the upcoming fight to spice up a bit via those words which would really be some sort of provoking.

When the hype and intense is high then its pretty sure that interest would really be high too which would really result into more demand and this is where the association been targeting on so if I were you then don't take it personally.

Take these calls and war or words or something when it comes to opinions as casual thing in boxing.You would really be seeing this casually.

[Kelvinid]

Even if Spence happened to win it was simply unnecessary to say things like this, it is better to show what you have on the ring and then say whatever you want once you win instead of doing it backwards, lose and then he will have to eat his words.

When a fighter says things that he usually didn't say, that could only mean one thing, he might not be able to do what he says because he thinks his opponent is more superior to him so he wants to destroy it through words first then in the right. But anyway, it's just my own speculation, everything should only be a form of marketing the fight as this is just a once-in-a-lifetime event for these great fighters, especially for Spence.

[Questat]

Even if Spence happened to win it was simply unnecessary to say things like this, it is better to show what you have on the ring and then say whatever you want once you win instead of doing it backwards, lose and then he will have to eat his words.

When a fighter says things that he usually didn't say, that could only mean one thing, he might not be able to do what he says because he thinks his opponent is more superior to him so he wants to destroy it through words first then in the right. But anyway, it's just my own speculation, everything should only be a form of marketing the fight as this is just a once-in-a-lifetime event for these great fighters, especially for Spence.

That's not what some people are expecting to see, they want to see Spence beat Manny so Manny could retire. He is a living legend but fighting a young and undefeated fighter, I think it has not been done by some legends before. It's still an exciting fight, the war of words really help to hype up this fight, and the style of Manny which is to keep silent is just great because that means he is focus on action not on words.

[ene1980]

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

[Ryker1]

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

Well, it seems you are underestimated Manny Pacquiao here --so you mean that Manny Pacquiao will perhaps lack practice these days because of the pandemic? You are wrong because he has a hard practice and I don't think at his age won't able to win the fight. Pacman is a very aggressive and very wise fighter, he is also a very clever fighter that when he knows that his opponent becomes weak, at that time he will give a nice fighter with a fast punch like what happened to Cotto. We are almost there, let us see who will this fight.

[Fatunad]

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

We would really see the difference but for sure it wont really be coming to a point on where he would be showing off about degraded performance of course there would be changes due to age which is understandable because we aren't getting younger and also with the job that he had where he might not even took care of his body in terms of maintaining it on a good shape and make out some preparations only when theres some upcoming fight.
Its hard to judge but I don't see for him to prove out anything since he had already been a legend on 8 world division which is something that a boxer
could able attain of.

[Oasisman]

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

The first three rounds doesn't define the whole match when Pacquiao fights. Remember he doesn't usually give all his strength and strategies once he hasn't yet feel the power and strength of his opponent in the early rounds.
During his prime he usually destroys his opponent in the late round as his stamina seems relentless as the rounds go up.

What I am expecting here is a slower start for Pacquiao because of his age disadvantage. Pacquiao will start showing what's left in the tank in the late rounds. Not unless If he sees such weaknesses for the opponent, he might go for it and finish the match as early as he can. But, Spence is a tough opponent so I'm expecting a more careful and veterans moves from the Pacman.

[Lorence.xD]

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

You said it yourself, everyone gets caught by time when it comes to you, so I don't think that we will be seeing Manny Pacquiao as his old fierce and vicious self, remember that there will be glory days and it won't last forever.

[Yaunfitda]

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

Well, it seems you are underestimated Manny Pacquiao here --so you mean that Manny Pacquiao will perhaps lack practice these days because of the pandemic? You are wrong because he has a hard practice and I don't think at his age won't able to win the fight. Pacman is a very aggressive and very wise fighter, he is also a very clever fighter that when he knows that his opponent becomes weak, at that time he will give a nice fighter with a fast punch like what happened to Cotto. We are almost there, let us see who will this fight.

Actually we have seen Manny's speed deteriorate in years, but not to the point that he can be out gun by his opponent. So still, Manny has some decent speed as compare to the rest of the 147 lbs. But during his prime, we all know that he can throw 5 or 6 punch combinations, it's so fast the the opponent didn't know where it's coming from. But today, he uses more of his experience, angles, foot works and then his speed. That's why he was able to beat young guys like Thurman and Broner.

[Distinctin]

That's why he was able to beat young guys like Thurman and Broner.

I'm impressed with Manny when he beat Thurman, but not on Broner as we all know this guy just talks a lot and his career is really going down. I heard Broner had a fight this year, was it postponed or cancelled?

Anyway, back to the topic, Manny's age made him smarter, he understand that winning in boxing does not mean to KO your opponent, it should be done in a strategic way and that's why he is doing now.

[Ziskinberg]

That's why he was able to beat young guys like Thurman and Broner.

I'm impressed with Manny when he beat Thurman, but not on Broner as we all know this guy just talks a lot and his career is really going down. I heard Broner had a fight this year, was it postponed or cancelled?

Anyway, back to the topic, Manny's age made him smarter, he understand that winning in boxing does not mean to KO your opponent, it should be done in a strategic way and that's why he is doing now.

Not only his age but his experience, the good thing with him is he also experienced some losses, even the most devastating losses, and that made him smarter and more mature in making great decisions inside the ring. This fight would not be easy for Spence even if he ends up winning, that's for sure.

[blockman]

Anyway, back to the topic, Manny's age made him smarter, he understand that winning in boxing does not mean to KO your opponent, it should be done in a strategic way and that's why he is doing now.

True, it's because of the experience that he has gained with all of his matches. He's still pushing for a KO but that's hard enough for him if the opponent is also strong and tough. There's the respect that he's giving to his opponents, despite the highly talks that sometimes he makes during press conferences but it's part of gaining his confidence and not degrading himself. Sometimes it's just a lucky punch that's needed to KO someone but to end the match smoothly through points, he knows how to do it and that made him won with his other fights.

[Questat]

Anyway, back to the topic, Manny's age made him smarter, he understand that winning in boxing does not mean to KO your opponent, it should be done in a strategic way and that's why he is doing now.

True, it's because of the experience that he has gained with all of his matches. He's still pushing for a KO but that's hard enough for him if the opponent is also strong and tough. There's the respect that he's giving to his opponents, despite the highly talks that sometimes he makes during press conferences but it's part of gaining his confidence and not degrading himself. Sometimes it's just a lucky punch that's needed to KO someone but to end the match smoothly through points, he knows how to do it and that made him won with his other fights.

He is taking it slowly now, but in a consistent manner, if his opponent can't last long, that's where we will see a KO win by Manny, but I believe that is not his main focus, his focus is to win convincingly and to make himself safe at all times by not being careless.