Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread

[nullama]

Anyone know or have an update for software update and or lightning network addon?

For the Apollo miner binary itself, you can find all the updates here: https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases

For the Single Board Computer (Bitcoin node, etc), you can find all the updates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340015.msg57091052#msg57091052

[SpeedForceGN]

Anyone know or have an update for software update and or lightning network addon?

For the Apollo miner binary itself, you can find all the updates here: https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases

For the Single Board Computer (Bitcoin node, etc), you can find all the updates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340015.msg57091052#msg57091052

Does any of this allow us to set up lightning node

[nullama]

Anyone know or have an update for software update and or lightning network addon?

For the Apollo miner binary itself, you can find all the updates here: https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases

For the Single Board Computer (Bitcoin node, etc), you can find all the updates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340015.msg57091052#msg57091052

Does any of this allow us to set up lightning node

The Single Board Computer is running a full Bitcoin node, so you can run a lightning node there on top of it.

I don't know if the official SD card image comes with a lightning node pre-installed, but you can definitely install it and set it up yourself as it's basically just a computer.

[SpeedForceGN]

Anyone know or have an update for software update and or lightning network addon?

For the Apollo miner binary itself, you can find all the updates here: https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/releases

For the Single Board Computer (Bitcoin node, etc), you can find all the updates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340015.msg57091052#msg57091052

Does any of this allow us to set up lightning node

The Single Board Computer is running a full Bitcoin node, so you can run a lightning node there on top of it.

I don't know if the official SD card image comes with a lightning node pre-installed, but you can definitely install it and set it up yourself as it's basically just a computer.

Can you explain how

[nullama]

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Can you explain how

Since this is the Apollo BTC thread, the official answer would be to wait for a bit:

(solo mining, block explorer, Lightning network all planned in the short term)

Having said that, if you're capable of managing your own device, install and configure things on your own, then you could use any lightning setup on top of the Apollo.

I personally prefer open source above anything else, so here is a fully open source stack to run a lightning node through REST with a great web based interface, which gives you a lot of flexibility:

• Bitcoin Core: The Bitcoin node, already in your Apollo Computer. This is your private Bitcoin node that you will connect to. Setup a RPC user and password for it.
• c-lightning: a lightweight C implementation of the Lightning Network. This will connect to the Bitcoin node in the same device using that user/pass.
• C-Lightning-REST: A rest API interface for c-lightning.
• Ride-The-Lightning: RTL is an awesome web based interface for managing your node. It communicates through the REST API to your node.

And now you should be able to manage your node through a great web interface. All powered by open source.

[n0nce]

~snip~
Can you explain how

Since this is the Apollo BTC thread, the official answer would be to wait for a bit:

(solo mining, block explorer, Lightning network all planned in the short term)

Having said that, if you're capable of managing your own device, install and configure things on your own, then you could use any lightning setup on top of the Apollo.

I personally prefer open source above anything else, so here is a fully open source stack to run a lightning node through REST with a great web based interface, which gives you a lot of flexibility:

• Bitcoin Core: The Bitcoin node, already in your Apollo Computer. This is your private Bitcoin node that you will connect to. Setup a RPC user and password for it.
• c-lightning: a lightweight C implementation of the Lightning Network. This will connect to the Bitcoin node in the same device using that user/pass.
• C-Lightning-REST: A rest API interface for c-lightning.
• Ride-The-Lightning: RTL is an awesome web based interface for managing your node. It communicates through the REST API to your node.

And now you should be able to manage your node through a great web interface. All powered by open source.

Keep in mind installing all that on top of the Apollo image might not be a great idea, since it has a few outdated packages and JStefanop has advised not to udpate the OS repeatedly.
I'm working on a guide that explains how to install stock Linux on the SBC, the whole stack from my OpenSUSE guide, as well as the miner binary and the open-source frontend, which is really handy to be honest.

It will require a short USB-A to micro-USB cable from the hashboard to the SBC, but I think that that it will be worth it.

[gigahashes]

Just so you all know, have just found this info.

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/pre-order-apollo-btc-a-bitcoin-asic-miner-and-desktop-class-computer-running-a-full-node-and-much-more-batch-1-ships-in-late-april-to-may?variant=33404796928099

Good luck to all 

[V3XED]

Just so you all know, have just found this info.

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/pre-order-apollo-btc-a-bitcoin-asic-miner-and-desktop-class-computer-running-a-full-node-and-much-more-batch-1-ships-in-late-april-to-may?variant=33404796928099

Good luck to all 

Curious to hear people's opinions on the 'value proposition' of these units right now.
And to be clear, I am not trying to flame, but I am running two units from batch 2 that don't seem like they will ever achieve ROI.

To anyone purchasing now, what is your gameplan? What are your priorities and goals?
Just curious to get other perspectives, cheers.

[nullama]

Just so you all know, have just found this info.

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/pre-order-apollo-btc-a-bitcoin-asic-miner-and-desktop-class-computer-running-a-full-node-and-much-more-batch-1-ships-in-late-april-to-may?variant=33404796928099

Good luck to all 

Curious to hear people's opinions on the 'value proposition' of these units right now.
And to be clear, I am not trying to flame, but I am running two units from batch 2 that don't seem like they will ever achieve ROI.

To anyone purchasing now, what is your gameplan? What are your priorities and goals?
Just curious to get other perspectives, cheers.

A quiet home miner really.

That will change always. The original was Generate Coins in a CPU program in 2009, but I missed it. Now I'm eager to run low powered efficient miners at home. The Apollo seems to be the best one, along with the Compac F.

[BlazeB]

Just so you all know, have just found this info.

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/pre-order-apollo-btc-a-bitcoin-asic-miner-and-desktop-class-computer-running-a-full-node-and-much-more-batch-1-ships-in-late-april-to-may?variant=33404796928099

Good luck to all 

Curious to hear people's opinions on the 'value proposition' of these units right now.
And to be clear, I am not trying to flame, but I am running two units from batch 2 that don't seem like they will ever achieve ROI.

To anyone purchasing now, what is your gameplan? What are your priorities and goals?
Just curious to get other perspectives, cheers.

I use my full node so I don't have to rely on a third party monitor and use my wallet. Sure I could have setup a full node on a Raspberry Pi but the Apollo is a very slick package. It would be awesome if FutureBit came out with a quiet BTC miner that consumed around 1500 watts, similar to the Goldshell Lite series miners. I know that's not their target market, but I can dream. For now, I'll have to settle for my Apollo BTC and a few S9s running Braiins to keep the fan speeds at an acceptable level for home mining.

[WLColsher]

Just so you all know, have just found this info.

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/pre-order-apollo-btc-a-bitcoin-asic-miner-and-desktop-class-computer-running-a-full-node-and-much-more-batch-1-ships-in-late-april-to-may?variant=33404796928099

Good luck to all 

Curious to hear people's opinions on the 'value proposition' of these units right now.
And to be clear, I am not trying to flame, but I am running two units from batch 2 that don't seem like they will ever achieve ROI.

To anyone purchasing now, what is your gameplan? What are your priorities and goals?
Just curious to get other perspectives, cheers.

If by "ROI" you mean "pay for itself" the answer is unknowable without knowing one's cost of electricity AND the price of Bitcoin at some future date. You should know your price of electricity so you can easily compute your monthly cost of operations, then project BTC however you care to.

As far as the machines themselves I have 2 Batch 3 machines mining Slushpool. They generate about 0.00021 Bitcoin a week, or 0.01092 annually. At today's price that's about $467.50 per year. If you buy ARK Investment's call of $1,000,000 by 2030 you're looking at about $87000 over that period. That doesn't take into account the expected 2024 "halving", BTW.

After all that, as an investor first, I look at these home or hobby miners as foreign currency bonds. So the $1400 I have in my two machines (a full and a standard) yield about 33% annually in USD.

[Guyta]

So I purchased a desktop and 2 standard units.

When I started mining I was doing anywhere from 6Th/s to 7Th/s in eco mode
A week later and the package is doing between 5Th/s to 5.8Th/s.

Anyone else experience a hash rate drop?

[WLColsher]

I'm running a Batch 3 Full and 1 standard for about 6 weeks now and haven't noticed any drop off. So a couple questions just to get some focus:

1) Is the reported hashrate from the Apollo web dashboard or your pool?
2) Are all 44 ASICS running on all 3 hashboards?
3) How do your hash board temps look? Mine have been right around 65°C since day 1 in Turbo mode.

The "designed" hashrate is an average and can vary by around 5% so dips down to 5.7ish Th/s on the dashboard should be expected.

Someone here will certainly have more information for you than I do.

[Guyta]

I'm running a Batch 3 Full and 1 standard for about 6 weeks now and haven't noticed any drop off. So a couple questions just to get some focus:

1) Is the reported hashrate from the Apollo web dashboard or your pool?
2) Are all 44 ASICS running on all 3 hashboards?
3) How do your hash board temps look? Mine have been right around 65°C since day 1 in Turbo mode.

The "designed" hashrate is an average and can vary by around 5% so dips down to 5.7ish Th/s on the dashboard should be expected.

Someone here will certainly have more information for you than I do.

1. Yest the hash rate Is on the futurebit dashboard
2.all 3 boards are running 44
3. Temps are around 60C running in balance mode now.

[mistersplice]

My batch 3 standard unit's fan is making grinding noises while it is running and this was recently received in January.  Is there anyway to replace this fan?  If I place the unit on the side, the grinding noise is minimal.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6puf5oaygpaebf/Video%20Mar%2017%2C%208%2027%2016%20PM.mov?dl=0

Well known issue; the small fan on the SBC is pretty shitty. Contact customer support and they'll send you out another

I've contacted support three different times now about the same issue, and have not gotten a single reply back

[gigahashes]

My batch 3 standard unit's fan is making grinding noises while it is running and this was recently received in January.  Is there anyway to replace this fan?  If I place the unit on the side, the grinding noise is minimal.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6puf5oaygpaebf/Video%20Mar%2017%2C%208%2027%2016%20PM.mov?dl=0

Hi, yes it is easy to replace the fan, I used a Sunon Miniature Fan 5VDC Square 25 x 25 x 6mm 2.2 CFM 2 Wire Leads, I cut the wires from the connector, leaving plenty of wire to reattach and then soldered the new fan to the wires and connector.

Not sure where you are but there is a company on ebay uk that has these at a good price.

£3.99 each inc shipping, I am sure you will be able to find one and they are a fantastic replacement.

[heslo]

My batch 3 standard unit's fan is making grinding noises while it is running and this was recently received in January.  Is there anyway to replace this fan?  If I place the unit on the side, the grinding noise is minimal.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6puf5oaygpaebf/Video%20Mar%2017%2C%208%2027%2016%20PM.mov?dl=0

Hi, yes it is easy to replace the fan, I used a Sunon Miniature Fan 5VDC Square 25 x 25 x 6mm 2.2 CFM 2 Wire Leads, I cut the wires from the connector, leaving plenty of wire to reattach and then soldered the new fan to the wires and connector.

Not sure where you are but there is a company on ebay uk that has these at a good price.

£3.99 each inc shipping, I am sure you will be able to find one and they are a fantastic replacement.

This is what I used too; can't go wrong with Sunon

[maxfunky]

Hi

in the dashboard my Apollo always show:

Code:

SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input

I did reboot or reset the device but always the same error... 

[poonasor]

Question about "DISK /MEDIA/NVME USAGE". I'm getting close to the 457.45 GB limit. Are there instructions for adding more space? Thanks!

I'm also here looking for answers to this question, I'm finding my main miner is getting disconnected, its still showing up on the wifi but i can't access the miner

is the M.2 slot NVMe or is it sata?

[mutatrum]

Question about "DISK /MEDIA/NVME USAGE". I'm getting close to the 457.45 GB limit. Are there instructions for adding more space? Thanks!

I'm also here looking for answers to this question, I'm finding my main miner is getting disconnected, its still showing up on the wifi but i can't access the miner

is the M.2 slot NVMe or is it sata?

NVMe. Don't know if it'll accept sata.