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May 30, 2021, 03:31:46 AM |
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Well, all I can do is to watch these whales manipulating the market because the real thing is that, they are also doing their best to make profits while some of these investors are just riding on it.
For retailers this is the only thing we can do. Either we ride their manipulation game or left behind. Sometime we get caught on their tricks as they market dump and we didn't sell and sometime they pumped and we already dumped. This unfavorable event usually occured and we can see it happening in a blink of an eye. Damn those whales playing market games on us.
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May 30, 2021, 04:04:26 AM |
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Let whales do whatever they wanna do. Create your own investment strategy and follow that. Whales are called whales because they invested in bitcoin when it was around zero and people made fun of it. You can also be a whale by accumulating coins when they are at dip. We usually run away from red market thats why we don't have much impact on green market.
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May 30, 2021, 05:15:53 AM |
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I think the best way to counter these whales manipulators simply by going against the flow, many people are scared of bearish they made a silly mistake of panic selling, same with bullish they also get too carried away and fomo meanwhile if you see the price chart, just imagine you're going against the market, instead of panic selling you're holding, you can actually make very big profit, the last buyer of the recent 2017 bullish market at the peak of ATH if they are still holding, still got more than 100% returns, those are the people who go against most of people and win at the end.
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May 30, 2021, 07:15:47 AM |
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We should really hold if they're manipulating the price. They all want to get the best price before selling and if they're sending the prices down. That only means that they want to have it at the cheapest price so they send fud to the market.
And once it's already down, they're buying all of those cheap bitcoins.
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May 30, 2021, 08:39:03 AM |
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We should really hold if they're manipulating the price. They all want to get the best price before selling and if they're sending the prices down. That only means that they want to have it at the cheapest price so they send fud to the market.
And once it's already down, they're buying all of those cheap bitcoins.
The common way whales manipulate prices is usually looking for coins that are cheaply priced, usually whales manipulating the price of new coins. After that the whales will pump the coins and after the FOMO occurs, the whales will immediately take profit and the market dump. After that whales will leave the coins, therefore avoid investing in new coins, if not able to do research and analysis properly. For popular coins, whales usually do the pump, you dump several times to be able to collect profit. Therefore if we invest in popular coins, if after we buy the price is not long then dump. It was likely a manipulation of the whales, and we only need to be patient with the holding of these coins. Because as I said, whales will pump and dump several times, so we wait until the coin price is pumped again.
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May 30, 2021, 11:37:24 AM |
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I believe that in order to understand the actions of whales, you need to have a lot of experience and a number of special skills. But in addition to the strategies of the whales, to lower the prices of crypto assets or, on the contrary, increase them, there is also market manipulation when we think about one thing, and in this all this was created for another result. Previously, the crypto market was not as manipulative as it is now, and this makes it clear that not all the actions of crits need to be paid attention to, and even more so to try to correspond to them. Is that only in one case, when you know 100% of the plans of the whales.
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May 30, 2021, 04:37:31 PM |
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Their significant funds allow them to change the market trend in whatever direction they want.
they want to happen? Perhaps if ppl will not believe in such things maybe market now is fully recovered and not become stagnant. But unfortunately mostly don't know what exactly happening right now and relying on what's in the internet which a big mistake because of some fuds spreading some shits in the internet..right now it depends on us if we really wanted to get the real information in my personal opinion because if we use to believe in such things its like a suicide..
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May 30, 2021, 04:59:41 PM |
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Of all ways you have described I believe the price pumping manipulation is one of those strategies that has spoiled us the most!
Because every time this happens people don't see this move early enough and ride the wave late then the whales choose to mitigate there trades and all those still holding the buy trades get their accounts wiped out and once mitigation is over its back on the bullish trail.
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May 30, 2021, 05:09:08 PM |
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Of all ways you have described I believe the price pumping manipulation is one of those strategies that has spoiled us the most! -snip-
price pumping manipulation is indeed one strategy that will spoil anyone. But when we participate in the FOMO pump like that, in a few minutes the price will drop very drastically and eventually many are stuck at a high price, this will be very dangerous. As a regular trader I try to follow where the pope is going and try to get on his back to stay safe. market manipulation will continue, we must stay prepared. and the last is to do technical analysis because the main reference of whales is also in technical analysis.
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May 31, 2021, 01:47:00 AM |
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I believe that in order to understand the actions of whales, you need to have a lot of experience and a number of special skills. But in addition to the strategies of the whales, to lower the prices of crypto assets or, on the contrary, increase them, there is also market manipulation when we think about one thing, and in this all this was created for another result. Previously, the crypto market was not as manipulative as it is now, and this makes it clear that not all the actions of crits need to be paid attention to, and even more so to try to correspond to them. Is that only in one case, when you know 100% of the plans of the whales.
it is hard to guess if the whales will act, where the market will be pumping high and for a while it will be dumped again. In the current situation, we must be careful when taking steps, most importantly, don't be greedy to take profits, because at any time the market may reverse.
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May 31, 2021, 09:44:16 AM |
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...It is important to note that these tactics are illegal in the regulated stock market exchanges. As the cryptocurrency world faces more regulations as time goes on, It is safe to say that the whales will eventually lose their power to manipulate the market so readily and easily.
Obviously, it will take a long time before such manipulations in the cryptocurrency market will be prohibited by law, just as it is prohibited in the stock market. And until this happens, traders must adapt to the manipulation of large capital, opening orders in the same direction as the whales.
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May 31, 2021, 10:52:53 AM |
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If you will going to HOLD longer then there will be no option for whale to manipulate the market, because the only thing they can do is to shake the market and if noob and week investors affected of the movement then the whales success . but if all of us small investors will not take part then we will win against them.
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May 31, 2021, 02:12:53 PM |
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For long-term hodlers like me, it's just piss easy because I won't be like moving my coins for quite a long-time even if whales would turn the trends around at some point. Just like what's happening to the market right now, either I just buy or I hold. I just don't give a crap about others' FUDs to the market.
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May 31, 2021, 06:04:02 PM |
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I think the best way to counter these whales manipulators simply by going against the flow, many people are scared of bearish they made a silly mistake of panic selling, same with bullish they also get too carried away and fomo.
. The whale are master of their craft, they're very good and skilled at manipulating the market, they know when to push the agenda and it'll have an effect on the market so if you're trying to outsmart them, you have to be very cautious to avoid getting rekted. The best method (in outsmarting the whales) is by cost averaging when the bears are in sessions. Don't go in with all your funds at ones as you'll never know when the button is reached and they (the whales) could still manipulate the market further just to cause more panic in the market. In the scenario of bullish market instead of countering the whales, I would suggest you just go with the flow but apply cautious by making use of the stop loss features at a very reasonable price.
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May 31, 2021, 07:43:09 PM |
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We should really hold if they're manipulating the price. They all want to get the best price before selling and if they're sending the prices down. That only means that they want to have it at the cheapest price so they send fud to the market.
And once it's already down, they're buying all of those cheap bitcoins.
The common way whales manipulate prices is usually looking for coins that are cheaply priced, usually whales manipulating the price of new coins. After that the whales will pump the coins and after the FOMO occurs, the whales will immediately take profit and the market dump. After that whales will leave the coins, therefore avoid investing in new coins, if not able to do research and analysis properly. For popular coins, whales usually do the pump, you dump several times to be able to collect profit. Therefore if we invest in popular coins, if after we buy the price is not long then dump. It was likely a manipulation of the whales, and we only need to be patient with the holding of these coins. Because as I said, whales will pump and dump several times, so we wait until the coin price is pumped again. Yes, they're more with the new coins because liquidity is low. And when they enter, the price will pump and shall be noticed by many traders, so those traders will also have that thought that it's a good coin to invest because it just pumped and quite new. So whoever enters early will have the most advantage.
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May 31, 2021, 10:46:02 PM |
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If you can learn to successfully whale watch, you will be able to trade the way they do and make higher returns. It’s also essential to “hodl” strong if they are trying to make the price drop. Otherwise, you will feed the whales your position at a discount and give them even more leverage in the future to manipulate the market further.
These really make sense seeing how powerful the whales are. We may not know who they are. But although we always believe that no one can manipulate the market, it sees,s like be different. When the whales have played with the market, they will always be able to manipulate the price. Up and down only several times is really possible. However, what I am thinking right now is about: Is every whale the same? WIll be going to m=be more interested to make the same decision for the same time? Like making a drop price at the same time? because sometimes, we can see that some parties are also struggling in order that BTC will not be dropped again
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May 31, 2021, 10:52:33 PM |
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The common way whales manipulate prices is usually looking for coins that are cheaply priced, usually whales manipulating the price of new coins. After that the whales will pump the coins and after the FOMO occurs, the whales will immediately take profit and the market dump. After that whales will leave the coins, therefore avoid investing in new coins, if not able to do research and analysis properly. For popular coins, whales usually do the pump, you dump several times to be able to collect profit. Therefore if we invest in popular coins, if after we buy the price is not long then dump. It was likely a manipulation of the whales, and we only need to be patient with the holding of these coins. Because as I said, whales will pump and dump several times, so we wait until the coin price is pumped again. Yes, they're more with the new coins because liquidity is low. And when they enter, the price will pump and shall be noticed by many traders, so those traders will also have that thought that it's a good coin to invest because it just pumped and quite new. So whoever enters early will have the most advantage. All coins with low liquidity are very easy to manipulate, therefore for newbies it is better to avoid investing in coins with low liquidity. It is true that early adopters are always profitable, therefore it's no wonder new projects are always in demand, because the opportunity to get profit is very large. But what we need to be aware of, there are so many new projects that are scams, and usually there are always whales who invest in new projects. Research and analysis is required before deciding to invest in new projects.
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May 31, 2021, 11:28:08 PM |
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If you will going to HOLD longer then there will be no option for whale to manipulate the market, because the only thing they can do is to shake the market and if noob and week investors affected of the movement then the whales success . but if all of us small investors will not take part then we will win against them.
That's what a strong hand will always defeat the whale, even how they will spread their FUD, no one will listen to them and follow what they say. Those wealthy and high institutional investors are considered as a whale and they are enemies to us a small investor. A low volume altcoins are easy for them to shake and create FUD so that weak people will easily believe in their hidden agenda of making a profit in the market. That's why to invest in what you can afford because holding for a long time and aiming to gain profit isn't easy. There's no time frame for that or else, patiently wait until it will come.
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June 01, 2021, 06:35:06 AM |
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The problem with people who are too afraid to hold is because they have this fear of the market going down to as low as zero where the chance for that to happen is really slim, these people don't know what in every coin they sold there's people waiting to buy more and more and that's gonna happen even if the market is about to go down to about 90% some people gonna buy these coins in bulk and wait for another recovery. If you know that the market has really low chance of going down that much because peolpe are also setting up buy order you gonna have a strong hand, remember we only lose when we sell.
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June 01, 2021, 01:43:28 PM |
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If you will going to HOLD longer then there will be no option for whale to manipulate the market, because the only thing they can do is to shake the market and if noob and week investors affected of the movement then the whales success . but if all of us small investors will not take part then we will win against them.
That's what a strong hand will always defeat the whale, even how they will spread their FUD, no one will listen to them and follow what they say. Those wealthy and high institutional investors are considered as a whale and they are enemies to us a small investor. A low volume altcoins are easy for them to shake and create FUD so that weak people will easily believe in their hidden agenda of making a profit in the market. That's why to invest in what you can afford because holding for a long time and aiming to gain profit isn't easy. There's no time frame for that or else, patiently wait until it will come. But most of the time they are winning. Whales create FUD, weak hands got shaken easily, and start to get panic. Whether we like it or not, these rich people that we called whales are making their own way to make money and to take advantage of the market while small investors riding on it. But it was too unfortunate that most of the newcomers got their trap and caught. So I could say that whales are smarter than causal investors and they can really manipulate the market if they want to.
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