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June 03, 2021, 02:42:38 AM |
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Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50 or would you still rethink if there is an upset like Weili Zhang and Rose Namajunas. How about Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai, is this a risk free fight to you? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwkGFrt1.png&t=665&c=0mX-SBvAKGeoZA) Jairzinho Rozenstruik by the way is the one that did the nasty cuts to Allistair's mouth.
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Is there even such a thing as a risk-free fight? I mean, both fighters are going to meet each other because they are still a match regardless of the fact that one of them is a favorite and the other underdog.
I do decide on which of the two is probably going to win, but that is not saying the one I picked for my money is going to be the sure winner. The risk of losing is always there.
1.50 is not even the lowest of odds. It is not the most lop-sided of matches.
For as long as the two fighters have complete hands and feet, anybody could turn out the winner.
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1.5 is nothing compared to Mayweather vs Paul (before they took it down). I think it should have been the closest risk-free fight as the odd is crap. If both fighters professional, there is no such thing as "risk-free fight." Yes #7 vs #17 is a tremendous gap, but not risk-free.
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There is nothing like risk-free in matches, even if the certainty of wining is 99.99%, the 0.1% still means the winner can be anyone. If my the chance of winning can be very high, but that does not mean the person that have such high probability of wining can not lose. Even in previous match cases, there has been many cases of someone that have high probability of wining ended up losing. 100% guarantee is uncertain.
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I agree, there's no such thing as risk free fight in any sports, so I'm not going to bet on it. I would rather do my own analysis first and see if there could be an upset going to happen. Unless you have a lot of money and willing to put a huge amount @1.50 to get a decent profit, for average gamblers, they might do a parlay or look for a better fight with good odds.
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June 03, 2021, 04:02:30 AM |
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Is there even such a thing as a risk-free fight? I mean, both fighters are going to meet each other because they are still a match regardless of the fact that one of them is a favorite and the other underdog.
Exactly what I have in mind when I saw the caption, For me there is no such thing as risk free fights when it is an official match because it wouldn't be accepted if their gap is too far from each other. Even if someone is underdog on the eyes of the people that underdog could still win and there is still a chance. I could only consider a risk free fight if it is an underground fight where fighter could fight even amateurs who doesn't have experience.
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I see between Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai, not a tough risk challenge for me, if I want to place a bet for them, even though they are both in the category of heavyweight boxers at the moment, they both had different ranks in the boxing fight. Rozenstruik was ranked sixth and sakai was currently ranked ninth, You don't look at the rankings, you have to judge them both also in terms of the record they got during the match.
For me personally, the match between Rozenstruik vs Sakai which took place on Sunday (6/6), this week, I have a stronger bet on: Sakai, it's my right to make my choice, of course other people have their own choices in judging them both, my bet this time fell to Sakai, I took my own risk in their duel this time.
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June 03, 2021, 04:26:51 AM |
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I agree, there's no such thing as risk free fight in any sports, so I'm not going to bet on it. I would rather do my own analysis first and see if there could be an upset going to happen. Unless you have a lot of money and willing to put a huge amount @1.50 to get a decent profit, for average gamblers, they might do a parlay or look for a better fight with good odds.
While I can agree that there are no risk free fights, still there is a higher percentage of winning against an underdog. The chances of Rose Namajunas winning against Weili Zhang is actually small but it happens somehow that small chance hit. I see between Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai, not a tough risk challenge for me, if I want to place a bet for them, even though they are both in the category of heavyweight boxers at the moment, they both had different ranks in the boxing fight. Rozenstruik was ranked sixth and sakai was currently ranked ninth, You don't look at the rankings, you have to judge them both also in terms of the record they got during the match.
For me personally, the match between Rozenstruik vs Sakai which took place on Sunday (6/6), this week, I have a stronger bet on: Sakai, it's my right to make my choice, of course other people have their own choices in judging them both, my bet this time fell to Sakai, I took my own risk in their duel this time.
The date of the last time they fight, that's still a factor. The last fight of Sakai was September 2020. Rozenstruik I believe will win this fight $100 at least almost a double because the odd are now 1.85. Could get batter the next day. Adesanya vs Vettori 2 is somehow also is a risk free to me.
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It's betting and it's a match no one's for sure what will going to happen. There's no such thing as risk free fight in sports betting or any kind of gambling. Their stats were pretty much the same with two losses all you have to do now is to compare their fighting style and think to yourself which could have an advantage.
If you were afraid of risk then betting is not for you.
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From my betting experience every UFC match is like a coinflip no matter how one sided or even the odds are, the only risk free match i'd take is probably the Adesanya match against Vettori next Sunday since Stake is offering a money back promo on the match winner market. Anyway with both fighters having a good record I think the value is on Sakai at plus odds but I don't follow these two that much and I have a bad record on UFC. ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif)
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I have lost money even with 1.10 odd in my gambling experience so I don't think risk free bets exist in sport betting. I may bet my weekly pay in a soccer game or other sport event I have high confidence it can be a win but not bet it if someone tells me to bet on this x event because it is a sure win.These things do not exist at least this is what I believe.
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In my opinion, it is very important to correctly assess the probabilities of the outcome of the battle.
Usually experts are very subjective in this assessment. This is due to the human factor. People know very little about mathematical probability theory. Therefore, there is an illusion that the fight is essentially risk-free.
In fact, even a low-rated fighter is likely to win the fight. In this situation, betting on the victory of the outside fighters is perhaps a perfectly reasonable idea.
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Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50 or would you still rethink if there is an upset like Weili Zhang and Rose Namajunas. How about Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai, is this a risk free fight to you? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwkGFrt1.png&t=665&c=0mX-SBvAKGeoZA) Jairzinho Rozenstruik by the way is the one that did the nasty cuts to Allistair's mouth. Risk free fight? are you sure that you are asking about Gambling betting ? and not a Loaning Business? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) the word GAMBLING stands for RISK TAKING. Meaning the very moment that you decide to bet you also Waving your decision to accept defeat or losses. if you are looking for pure winning , then best you loan the funds with valid collateral .
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June 03, 2021, 11:01:36 AM |
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Nothing is risk free in betting, unless there are terms and conditions of course;)
Stake for example right now has a risk free bet on UFC. Bet on one guy, and if he loses, you get your money back as a free bet (so okay not entirely risk free because you HAVE to spend that freebet on 2x to get it back in cash).
But Sportsbet have had promos for Euro where if you lose, your bet is Void (money back).
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Of course there are no risk-free fights, otherwise we'd all be rich by now. Even a negotiated fight cannot be considered risk-free, because no one knows how a fighter will behave in a rage.
But the proposal to use the earned money from the signature campaign on the bets, I fully support it, because if you lose, it will have a small impact on the budget.
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Jackl87
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June 03, 2021, 11:30:36 AM |
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Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50 or would you still rethink if there is an upset like Weili Zhang and Rose Namajunas.
How about Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Augusto Sakai, is this a risk free fight to you?
Jairzinho Rozenstruik by the way is the one that did the nasty cuts to Allistair's mouth.
Like others already replied in this thread, there will never be a completely risk free bet because if that would be the case the betting companies would not offer that bet. Especially in martial arts like boxing and UFC the risk for a big upset are always there as one punch or kick can change everything and end a match basically out of nowhere anytime. I would consider first round matches of tennis grand slams of top players vs qualifiers or matches between first division football clubs vs. 4th or 5th division football clubs in national cup championships as almost risk free but even their big upsets already happened and will continue to happen.
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Mauser
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June 03, 2021, 12:17:50 PM |
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I am not sure if I would call these fights risk free. Odds of 1.50 sound pretty nice, but I wouldn't say that they are risk free. Even if a fighter is a strong favourite to win the fight, it is no guarantee it is going to happen. Every athelete can have a some mild injuries right before the fight, or just sleep bad and have a bad day. When we bet on such low risk fights we need to beware that we could actually lose. I did a similar strategy in football matches, where I only bet on odds between 1.10 and 1.30. In 90% of the time you make small profit, but unfortunately if you bet long enough you will get to that one unlucky match where you lose it all. That is why I only bet smaller amounts now on such low risk bets.
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Ziskinberg
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June 03, 2021, 12:32:24 PM |
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There's no such thing as risk-free when you are gambling, you'll only find it risk-free if you are doing arbitrage betting which is also not an easy thing to do.
Please don't think of a "risk-free" gambling as it's only a misconception, that will lead you to more losses.
Even the 1.01 odds could lose.
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Oasisman
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June 03, 2021, 12:45:16 PM |
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Risk-free matches? In the professional sports scene? I mean, these are trained professionals no matter how underdog a fighter is but still they always stand a chance to win the match, and the risk is always there. I don't have any idea how good or how bad these two fighters are, but whoever the underdog between them has always still a chance to win. So, there is no risk-free betting. There's no guaranteed win in gambling world.
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Botnake
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June 03, 2021, 12:48:48 PM |
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Low odds are not risk-free, it only has a high chance of winning but it does not guarantee a win, in fact, if you are just betting on low odds all the time, it's guaranteed that you will still lose in the long run. You gotta be smart man, look at where the value is, whether it's the favorites or the underdog, just make your own research before putting a bet, don't rely too much on the odds.
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