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June 12, 2021, 09:47:25 PM
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There's no such thing as a risk-free fight if you are going to the ring you are fit and capable of winning you are trained to hurt your opponent, defend yourself and do whatever you need to win, that is why we have a thing called upset and bettors should not disregard upsets its part of the game, we have seen so many upsets in the past and let's admit it we love to see upsets.
However on Stake there are 2 risk free fights this night at UFC 263 : Nate Diaz @5.80 against Leon Edwards. Refund up to 50$ in case of loss of Nate Diaz. Israel Adesanya @1.38 against Marvin Vettori. Refund up to 50$ in case of loss of Israel Adesanya.

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June 12, 2021, 09:48:31 PM
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honestly speaking, there are certain events in which the person can perceive that it is an event where the risk is practically zero, I'll give you an example:

if my country played against brazil (I'm talking about soccer), it would be impossible for my country to win brazil and all bettors who bet in brazil would be placing a bet without the risk of losing money

Upsets can really possibly happen from time to time and when you are a bettor then not all favorites would really be having 100% to win.
If you do know on how to check out teams and possible events or switch ups or players cant play or some turn of events specially on team based sports
then you can really determine out on which would be the best thing to be done.Same goes for single matches where there are several factors that you
can consider before heading out.

and that's why I set my country's example against Brazil. there are events that have zero risk

There's no such thing as a risk-free fight if you are going to the ring you are fit and capable of winning you are trained to hurt your opponent, defend yourself and do whatever you need to win, that is why we have a thing called upset and bettors should not disregard upsets its part of the game, we have seen so many upsets in the past and let's admit it we love to see upsets.

again I will set the example of my country. if they say today that they would do a boxing match where some boxing athlete from my country would fight someone from the USA I am absolutely sure that the athlete from the USA would win easily

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June 12, 2021, 10:34:23 PM
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Why would you bet your whole weekly salary/payment? That's too much risk to take and you aren't sure about the fighter you are betting on not unless if it's a Mayweather vs Logan maybe, maybe you will risk everything as it is a clear way to win without having a doubt.

And yes, there is no risk-free at all it would depend on a lot of different factors that you can't consider it as a risk-free bet when it comes to money. Just bet or risk the money that you can afford to lose that's the least risk you can do unless if you have someone from the inside of each team to know which one would likely gonna win the match but it's not a risk-free bet also.

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June 13, 2021, 01:15:05 AM
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There are simply no risk-free fights.

The best that you can do is to somehow arbitrage your way into a surebet, whereby your are able to secure a winning outcome regardless of the winner of the match. But arbitrage betting is incredibly hard to come by usually.

But just because something seems likely doesn't mean that it's a good bet. These are usually the bets that give you the least amount of EV, actually.
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June 13, 2021, 04:14:59 AM
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Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50

Even if it is a risk-free fight, betting your whole weekly salary is already a big risk. Let's say in the current NBA season, a match between LA Lakers vs Houston Rockets. Are you confident enough that LA Lakers will definitely win in that match and bet your whole weekly pay? Will you not consider the risk if Rockets win, what will you do if Lakers lose. Going all-in just because you think the winner of the match is obvious isn't good, it is still a gamble and there is still a chance for you to lose no matter how small it is.
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June 13, 2021, 01:50:12 PM
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I'm not really sure if I would use all my weekly pay to place bet on something like this even the odds were really low or high chance of winning because you know, it's gambling, anything can happen even the chance of winning is high there's still a chance of losing.

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June 13, 2021, 02:48:53 PM
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Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50

Even if it is a risk-free fight, betting your whole weekly salary is already a big risk. Let's say in the current NBA season, a match between LA Lakers vs Houston Rockets. Are you confident enough that LA Lakers will definitely win in that match and bet your whole weekly pay? Will you not consider the risk if Rockets win, what will you do if Lakers lose. Going all-in just because you think the winner of the match is obvious isn't good, it is still a gamble and there is still a chance for you to lose no matter how small it is.

Nothing in this world is surely guaranteed and even its heavily favorite but doesnt mean that it will surely win.You should really remove into your mind that assurance or guaranteed wins is there unless if you do hear up some informations or insider for some rigged or fixed match then that would surely
be a win but its not easy can be attained.

Risk-free is something doesnt fit out in gambling world.You wouldnt know on what comes next even it do looks a sure win but as long it isnt over then
chances of change of events is always next on the line.

Dont remove the possibilities because it can really fucked you up if you do make yourself confident.

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June 13, 2021, 03:32:19 PM
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There are simply no risk-free fights.

The best that you can do is to somehow arbitrage your way into a surebet, whereby your are able to secure a winning outcome regardless of the winner of the match. But arbitrage betting is incredibly hard to come by usually.

But just because something seems likely doesn't mean that it's a good bet. These are usually the bets that give you the least amount of EV, actually.
Facts. There are no risk-free fights and they would always, ALWAYS have some kind of win/loss chance. That is, unless, the match is fixed. Though I think your bet is nulled in those types of cases, and even if it wasn't and you somehow knew that it was fixed, it's still a "risk" since again, it could get caught. On the notion of a fight between two unmatched players, it's more of like a low risk instead? After all, a dark horse could appear at any time. Not to mention that low risk bets means low odds means low cashout, kinda boring if I do say so if you were to only do that all the time.

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June 13, 2021, 05:09:13 PM
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Would you be able to decide which fight could be risk free that you will bet your weekly pay despite the small odd like 1.50

Even if it is a risk-free fight, betting your whole weekly salary is already a big risk. Let's say in the current NBA season, a match between LA Lakers vs Houston Rockets. Are you confident enough that LA Lakers will definitely win in that match and bet your whole weekly pay? Will you not consider the risk if Rockets win, what will you do if Lakers lose. Going all-in just because you think the winner of the match is obvious isn't good, it is still a gamble and there is still a chance for you to lose no matter how small it is.
Shit happened and for sure you'll regret if you push and yolo everything that you have, thinking that because you are betting with the favorites everything will turned smoothly.

There are so many cases that this kind of almost 100% sure win got burned out, not even you place your bet with 1.01 odd, that's still possible to lose out.

Keep in mind that you are inside gambling and that's the very definitions of everything.

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June 13, 2021, 09:13:15 PM
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risk-free bet is an oxymoron.
but if you have enough information it can be a sort of risk-free.
mostly of you need is not related to the match but to certain condition "externally".
I have placed awesome bet (team going in a lower series) when it was unofficial bankrupted and in a very bad position in the league.

There was a local news saying that this team was selling the bench and buses.
It was clear they was unable to join again the same league (literally failure, restart from the scratch). Nice experience but such events happens around few times each year and are very hard to be detected Sad

I agree with you, but sometimes there are bets where the profit outweighs the risk. It is difficult to prove, but in my opinion yesterday there was such a bet on the Belgium - Russia match. The odds for the victory of Belgium was 1.8, I was absolutely sure of their victory and was going to make a bet, but household chores distracted me and when I went to bet the match was already underway and Belgium was leading 1-0 already in the 10th minute  Sad

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June 13, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
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Dictionary defines gambling as

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take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
if it's risk-free it's not gambling at all, some gambling site offers a cashback on a particular fight, but it's not attractive to bettors if you offer the fight risk-free, I am betting on basketball and boxing and even if the match is not equal there is still a possibility of an upset, I still don't want to consider this as risk free betting but low risk betting


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June 14, 2021, 06:28:12 AM
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I'm not really sure if I would use all my weekly pay to place bet on something like this even the odds were really low or high chance of winning because you know, it's gambling, anything can happen even the chance of winning is high there's still a chance of losing.
Then you do not have to use your payment to place a bet. There is no risk-free in gambling. Even for just a small risk, that still a risk. If you do not play gambling at all, you will have risk-free and use the money for other things. As a gambler, we should know that the risk will be there and we can not avoid it, but we can reduce the risk by always limiting the money.

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June 15, 2021, 06:53:50 PM
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As I understand these articles are paid by bookmakers?  Grin
Betting on favorites is the most unprofitable and the bookmaker plans most of its profits here. Unlike bets on favorites, bets on underdogs are less likely to win, but in them the bookmaker's advantage is less than in bets on favorites.
That is not entirely the fault of the bookmaker, people have the tendency to bet on the favorites so the bookmakers give worst odds to those teams in order to account for this but in the scenario that people bet even more money than what they thought they would then they have no other option but to reduce the odds even further than that, so as you can see this happens because of the desire to get some easy profits coming from their customers, if people were risk-takers then we will see the opposite happening.

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June 15, 2021, 07:21:55 PM
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Dictionary defines gambling as

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take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
if it's risk-free it's not gambling at all, some gambling site offers a cashback on a particular fight, but it's not attractive to bettors if you offer the fight risk-free, I am betting on basketball and boxing and even if the match is not equal there is still a possibility of an upset, I still don't want to consider this as risk free betting but low risk betting
This one.

With just basing on the definition alone then you can really tell that there's no such thing about risk free fights as simply you are not doing gambling at all in the case.

Don't know on what others been thinking about this even having that leaked rigged possible games cant even guarantee to win yet you wont be sure if that would really hit up or not.

Heavily favorites doesn't mean that they are sure wins and I don't consider those as risk free.

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This one.

With just basing on the definition alone then you can really tell that there's no such thing about risk free fights as simply you are not doing gambling at all in the case.

Don't know on what others been thinking about this even having that leaked rigged possible games cant even guarantee to win yet you wont be sure if that would really hit up or not.

Heavily favorites doesn't mean that they are sure wins and I don't consider those as risk free.

I watched some shows... about Las Vegas, casino owners, gambling/mafia/everything else! And there's an upcoming fight, they push the rumor that one boxer will fall in the third round! So the rumor is going around for days, people place bets to make a profit... but in the end, it all was just a trick! They draw people into a safe bet and casinos just collected all the money, because most bettors lost!

When something is too good to be true, the red lamp in my head turns on! What is risk-free in this world?! Don't let anyone convince you there's something like that!

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This one.

With just basing on the definition alone then you can really tell that there's no such thing about risk free fights as simply you are not doing gambling at all in the case.

Don't know on what others been thinking about this even having that leaked rigged possible games cant even guarantee to win yet you wont be sure if that would really hit up or not.

Heavily favorites doesn't mean that they are sure wins and I don't consider those as risk free.

I watched some shows... about Las Vegas, casino owners, gambling/mafia/everything else! And there's an upcoming fight, they push the rumor that one boxer will fall in the third round! So the rumor is going around for days, people place bets to make a profit... but in the end, it all was just a trick! They draw people into a safe bet and casinos just collected all the money, because most bettors lost!

When something is too good to be true, the red lamp in my head turns on! What is risk-free in this world?! Don't let anyone convince you there's something like that!
As someone that sometimes makes informal bets on live sports with other fans that are attending at the event I can say this is true, many times I hear rumors about this or that other fight being fixed and that a fighter is going to take a dive before a round and I see the betting activity increasing which benefits everyone except the gamblers and many times the prediction does not come true which tells me it was an attempt to manipulate us and makes us part with our money.

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June 19, 2021, 08:35:55 PM
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Even if there is a mismatch in a card we should consider the possibility of upsets it always happen the favorite relaxing thinking that he can take him down anytime and the underdog trying to prove that he can take this guy, upsets always happen they will not face each other if they are not capable of taking down each other I will not even bet 100% winning over the other, I will still doubt the favorite.
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June 19, 2021, 08:49:46 PM
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Even if there is a mismatch in a card we should consider the possibility of upsets it always happen the favorite relaxing thinking that he can take him down anytime and the underdog trying to prove that he can take this guy, upsets always happen they will not face each other if they are not capable of taking down each other I will not even bet 100% winning over the other, I will still doubt the favorite.
Upsets is something that would be always part in sports betting and there's no such thing about risk free fights because chances or odds of turn about of events could really happen no matter how heavily favorite it is or been favored.

This is why when i do make out bets i do always consider the probabilities for the opposite team or player to have chance to take the win.

Just remember on not to go all in and always handle and manage your finances well then you should be fine.

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June 19, 2021, 10:04:45 PM
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This is why when i do make out bets i do always consider the probabilities for the opposite team or player to have chance to take the win.

As a basic rule of thumb, that should be a good approach in sports betting. Not just relying on the favorites' strength but also considering the chance of the opponent. For basketball example, the ball is round that even an unexpected thing to happen, really happens!

A good example in NBA, Atlanta Hawks vs Philadephia 76ers series. Before the series started, the majority doesn't really think that the Hawks have a chance at Sixers but look at the series now, they are now going into decisive Game 7 and to be honest, I can't pick who will be the series winner.

That's how important analyzing team at both ends as there is no assurance that a team will win with good odds like for example 1.1 to 1.5.
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June 20, 2021, 08:37:39 AM
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This is why when i do make out bets i do always consider the probabilities for the opposite team or player to have chance to take the win.

Just remember on not to go all in and always handle and manage your finances well then you should be fine.
The recent fight between Inoue and Dasmarinas can be considered a risk free fights but there is still what you might call an upset and it can happen, sometimes a risk free fights are those fixed and staged fights, but if it is not a stage fight you should still consider an upset it's always present in any fights between team and individuals.
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