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December 23, 2021, 02:24:18 PM
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What really is risk free fight? Such thing does not exist. One punch or kick or minor injury can spoil any risk free bet. Recent UFC fight between champion Amanda Nunes (former champ already) vs Julianna Pena is good example. The odds were like 1.4 for Nunes and 7 for Pena. Nunes was dominating first round. One punch from Pena in round two and Nunes did not manage to get together. As a result, new champ and those who bet on Pena got nice cheque.
Thats how upset works and we know that it does exists and could really happen anytime on a strong and highly favorite against underdog thats always been the risks as a bettor on which you wouldnt know on when

those lucky punches or kicks would really land out or to those other sports as well on last minute kind of move which make those underdogs win.I dont really see on those claims about risk free fights because

whenever you do deal with gambling then this is something which you would be mainly facing on and you cant really get rid nor able to remove the risk unless if you are dealing with fixed matches.

I do feel like there is no such thing as a "risk free fights" based on the example that you have provided.

As much as the odds may seem to be in favor of a particular person due to the enormous advantage that they have over their counterparts, there is always that possibility of a 'lucky strike' (like the one you mentioned) from happening. Basically whenever a person bets, he puts himself in a situation where he accepted that anything could happen. There can be no "absolute" result from a risk free fight in a betting scenario- or else that would definitely make everybody rich from betting.

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December 23, 2021, 11:53:33 PM
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What really is risk free fight? Such thing does not exist. One punch or kick or minor injury can spoil any risk free bet. Recent UFC fight between champion Amanda Nunes (former champ already) vs Julianna Pena is good example. The odds were like 1.4 for Nunes and 7 for Pena. Nunes was dominating first round. One punch from Pena in round two and Nunes did not manage to get together. As a result, new champ and those who bet on Pena got nice cheque.
Thats how upset works and we know that it does exists and could really happen anytime on a strong and highly favorite against underdog thats always been the risks as a bettor on which you wouldnt know on when

those lucky punches or kicks would really land out or to those other sports as well on last minute kind of move which make those underdogs win.I dont really see on those claims about risk free fights because

whenever you do deal with gambling then this is something which you would be mainly facing on and you cant really get rid nor able to remove the risk unless if you are dealing with fixed matches.

I do feel like there is no such thing as a "risk free fights" based on the example that you have provided.

As much as the odds may seem to be in favor of a particular person due to the enormous advantage that they have over their counterparts, there is always that possibility of a 'lucky strike' (like the one you mentioned) from happening. Basically whenever a person bets, he puts himself in a situation where he accepted that anything could happen. There can be no "absolute" result from a risk free fight in a betting scenario- or else that would definitely make everybody rich from betting.
If it does exist on the first place then people would really be simply betting with favorites for them to win constantly and make themselves rich on gambling which we know that it cant be possible or impossible thing to happen as we all know and as mentioned about those lucky moments then it could really happen.You wouldn't know on what will be the moment in next seconds or minute
inside of the duration and this is what makes betting more interesting and thrilling and this is where people shouldn't really mind off about those risk free bets
that it cant be possible.

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December 24, 2021, 01:12:26 AM
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No fight is ever risk free.

That's why the term "puncher's chance" exists - you simply can't count someone out.

Otherwise, if this was a repeatable and profitable strategy, why would bookies even offer these low odds?

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December 24, 2021, 01:59:42 AM
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The only risk free is not to gamble at all. As per average, favorites do win most of the time, however, because of the odds, that would still make you unprofitable in the long run.
If you are good to go with just one shot of a bet, then bet on the underdog, but always remember that it could also lose.

Betting on the underdog will usually result to a loss. That's actually one way of not betting with minimum risk. If you are going to do that, just make sure you made enough research about that match and the potential winning rate for the underdog as well as understanding the gap from the odd.
Huge gaps usually an easy win for the favourite.
I can also say that betting with the favourite is actually profitable but with very less and minimal amount when you lost once, you'll have to get what you lost after several games betting with the favourites again.

Yes, it is right.  If you constantly place bets on favorites, then you need to be prepared for the fact that one day your bet will not win. 

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When betting in general on sports that actually depend on information to improve your odds over those of the house, you have to ask yourself the same as if you would be investing in stocks that are well known and followed. The key question is What is your advantage? For example, there are a million funds and people out there investing in Google. If you intend to compete with them, you should have better information or otherwise you will be the shrimp in the ocean ready to be eaten. Betting is similar, you need to find your advantage when betting for profit or expecting to have it.

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December 24, 2021, 10:34:34 AM
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The only risk free is not to gamble at all. As per average, favorites do win most of the time, however, because of the odds, that would still make you unprofitable in the long run.
If you are good to go with just one shot of a bet, then bet on the underdog, but always remember that it could also lose.

Betting on the underdog will usually result to a loss. That's actually one way of not betting with minimum risk. If you are going to do that, just make sure you made enough research about that match and the potential winning rate for the underdog as well as understanding the gap from the odd.
Huge gaps usually an easy win for the favourite.
I can also say that betting with the favourite is actually profitable but with very less and minimal amount when you lost once, you'll have to get what you lost after several games betting with the favourites again.

Yes, it is right.  If you constantly place bets on favorites, then you need to be prepared for the fact that one day your bet will not win. 

At the same time, your loss will be very significant.  This is due to the presence of coefficients.  The odds are set for a reason. 

They take into account the probability of winning and the probability of losing.  According to the mathematical theory of probability. 

A risk free bet is always inside information.  You should have more information about athletes than other players. 

There is no other way.
If favorites can win most of the time, people will choose the favorite team to eliminate losing the money. But we know that people can challenge themselves by betting on the underdog too, especially if they see the underdog chance is good to compare to opponent whether that opponent is favorable by the people or not.

They can use the mathematical theory of probability but they should have more info about the match to know which team they should select.

But even if there is inside information that can give us almost accurate info, it still has a risk, especially if you are trying to bet in a big amount.

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December 24, 2021, 01:16:22 PM
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<...>

this reminds me of the old saying: "do you want to be right or do you want to make money?"
different ways to approach the world
maybe its better to approach betting as a job than as a pure entertainment activity if you want to win on the long run

It depends, I mean some of rich people would never consider betting as a job, it is just pure entertainment on them, however for those unfortunate people, they always consider betting as a job no matter how hard is it for them in winning. Your bets will never be always be right based on the information you've gathered, sometimes it is being bended by something that change everything, a win became a loss and a loss became a win, if you know what I mean.
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December 24, 2021, 01:42:35 PM
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<...>

this reminds me of the old saying: "do you want to be right or do you want to make money?"
different ways to approach the world
maybe its better to approach betting as a job than as a pure entertainment activity if you want to win on the long run

It depends, I mean some of rich people would never consider betting as a job, it is just pure entertainment on them, however for those unfortunate people, they always consider betting as a job no matter how hard is it for them in winning. Your bets will never be always be right based on the information you've gathered, sometimes it is being bended by something that change everything, a win became a loss and a loss became a win, if you know what I mean.

it's upsetting when the underdog win which you hopefully will not because most of the time the analysis is that a champion will always be the favorite and the odds speaks for it. if you are going to be banking on the underdog, it could just mean that you are really a fan of that MMA fighter which could be entertainment for you. but for a broke man who wants to win big but has small capital, he meant money and might just bet his $50 to win 3x rooting for the underdog.












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December 24, 2021, 01:59:03 PM
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<...>

this reminds me of the old saying: "do you want to be right or do you want to make money?"
different ways to approach the world
maybe its better to approach betting as a job than as a pure entertainment activity if you want to win on the long run

It depends, I mean some of rich people would never consider betting as a job, it is just pure entertainment on them, however for those unfortunate people, they always consider betting as a job no matter how hard is it for them in winning. Your bets will never be always be right based on the information you've gathered, sometimes it is being bended by something that change everything, a win became a loss and a loss became a win, if you know what I mean.

yes, I meant more in a sense for those who want to make money betting, but of course there are lots of approaches, nothing wrong with betting for fun, it's ok too

I know what you mean too,if we rely in luck it comes in goes, in weaves

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December 24, 2021, 05:30:23 PM
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Is there really any risk free fight? I doubt.
Well betting itself is a risk, so if it's risk-free, it's not betting but rather playing around. Even the most uneven match doesn't have a 100% win rate for the more advantageous side. There would always be at least 1% chance of the other side winning due to a lot of factors. A match isn't as simple as 1 + 1, there's a lot of factors involved in a fight though ofc, the biggest factor involved would be the fighters though then, as I said, there's a lot of factors that could affect a players performance, therefore affecting the result of a match.
Which by the way that is the whole point of watching a sport competition, after all if the favorite always won and there was no risk of losing for them then there will be no need to watch any competition as the only thing we will need to do is to look at their stats and we will know who will win, but things do not work like that, which means that luckily for us even a very bad team can beat a great one any given day no matter how unlikely it may be.
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December 24, 2021, 06:32:38 PM
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^

You are right, but the chance that the team with high odds wins is much smaller and such wins do not happen as often as we would like, so this kind of betting is even more risky. I personally choose the lower risk so I bet on favourites.

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December 24, 2021, 10:21:01 PM
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You are right, but the chance that the team with high odds wins is much smaller and such wins do not happen as often as we would like, so this kind of betting is even more risky. I personally choose the lower risk so I bet on favourites.
As a bettor then you do know about the basics and arrangement between odds which is understandable that favorites would be having higher chances of winning but just
like on what others been saying is that there are people who do make out underdog bets because they are hoping into those upsets that do really happen even though
its not on high probability but at least they are waiting for some good multiplier of their best via underdog betting but it wont be a good idea
if you dont be having any basis or research on why you do bet the least favorite.

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December 24, 2021, 10:35:25 PM
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this reminds me of the old saying: "do you want to be right or do you want to make money?"
different ways to approach the world
maybe its better to approach betting as a job than as a pure entertainment activity if you want to win on the long run

Well, that saying perfectly suits with the lawyers lol, not much for gambling or sports betting.
Threating gambling as a regular job might never be easy, it'll give you unstable income, sometimes you won't get anything yet you've even lost money for it.
The only time I consider gambling as a regular job is when you're get paid to play like poker tournaments or any other gambling tournaments.

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December 25, 2021, 02:20:31 AM
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<...>

this reminds me of the old saying: "do you want to be right or do you want to make money?"
different ways to approach the world
maybe its better to approach betting as a job than as a pure entertainment activity if you want to win on the long run

Well, that saying perfectly suits with the lawyers lol, not much for gambling or sports betting.
Threating gambling as a regular job might never be easy, it'll give you unstable income, sometimes you won't get anything yet you've even lost money for it.
The only time I consider gambling as a regular job is when you're get paid to play like poker tournaments or any other gambling tournaments.
Only some gamblers can use gambling as a regular job, while the rest will fail in the middle of their journey. It is hard to use betting as a job because that needs more knowledge than regular people who bet. If you can get paid by playing poker tournaments, then you do not risk anything since you only need to use your skills, no matter what the result is in the end. But everything related to gambling will have a risk. Whether that risk is big or small, you will still get that risk. The only thing that makes it different is how good you can manage the risk.

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December 25, 2021, 03:47:51 PM
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it's upsetting when the underdog win which you hopefully will not because most of the time the analysis is that a champion will always be the favorite and the odds speaks for it. if you are going to be banking on the underdog, it could just mean that you are really a fan of that MMA fighter which could be entertainment for you. but for a broke man who wants to win big but has small capital, he meant money and might just bet his $50 to win 3x rooting for the underdog.

Many bettors place their bets on underdogs not because they are fans of them, but because they see (or think they see) underestimation of the underdog. For example, if you see that the bookmaker gives a odds of getting a 6 when throwing the dice as 1:5, then most likely you will not bet, right? But if you see the odds for the same event 7 or higher, then you will make as many bets as you can, because it is profitable and not because you are a fan of 6s.

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December 25, 2021, 06:16:18 PM
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Only some gamblers can use gambling as a regular job, while the rest will fail in the middle of their journey. It is hard to use betting as a job because that needs more knowledge than regular people who bet. If you can get paid by playing poker tournaments, then you do not risk anything since you only need to use your skills, no matter what the result is in the end. But everything related to gambling will have a risk. Whether that risk is big or small, you will still get that risk. The only thing that makes it different is how good you can manage the risk.

How can you manage your risk if you play by the rules that are set by bookmakers or casinos (in the case of gambling)? You can reduce your risks to a certain percentage but still the risk will be enough for you to lose your money as it is assumed in the betting (gambling) system.

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December 25, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
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Only some gamblers can use gambling as a regular job, while the rest will fail in the middle of their journey. It is hard to use betting as a job because that needs more knowledge than regular people who bet. If you can get paid by playing poker tournaments, then you do not risk anything since you only need to use your skills, no matter what the result is in the end. But everything related to gambling will have a risk. Whether that risk is big or small, you will still get that risk. The only thing that makes it different is how good you can manage the risk.

How can you manage your risk if you play by the rules that are set by bookmakers or casinos (in the case of gambling)? You can reduce your risks to a certain percentage but still the risk will be enough for you to lose your money as it is assumed in the betting (gambling) system.
Even it would be having 1% chance of losing then it would be consider as risks but we know that once we do step our foot on gambling or betting then these things would really be typical for you to experience on
and people should really be aware of that and not just minding about those risk free bets which it doesnt really exist or no matter on how sure you are when it comes into your dealings
with things. This is why its called betting because you are something needs to choose in between options which losing is always been a probability.

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