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June 10, 2021, 05:34:41 PM |
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We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.
Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling. An interesting point of view and I agree when it comes to betting on the outcomes of sports events. I do not believe that you can beat a bookie over the long run, but it can be done in some cases. If we are talking about slots or dice, then it all depends on luck.
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June 10, 2021, 05:52:18 PM |
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This is more of a customary belief rather than having actual effect on the bet. Until one can prove that divine intervention is true—and with it, divine beings capable of controlling fate and destiny as we know it (lol)—no one can really say that praying helps. Although it helps on easing some people's minds and feeling about a certain bet, that's for sure. I'm yet to see a bet that is influenced by divine beings that is recorded and has substantial evidence to support that it is what happened indeed.
I'll leave it to the theists and religious people to do their praying before betting, but for me praying does not help in any way aside from helping you feel okay.
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June 10, 2021, 06:01:39 PM |
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Which God? Dice God? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hahaha, it could be ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.
Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion. surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck...
I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.
Maybe that will look strange for us but that is really happened in common in many places. They only think that by praying, they can win some money. But some people will not pray before playing gambling because they think that is not necessary. Besides that, gambling is only for fun and not for making money.
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June 10, 2021, 06:43:04 PM |
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Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh god, does my god exist in gambling ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No god can save your life when you are a gambler Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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June 10, 2021, 06:54:11 PM |
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The belief that the supernatural has got everything to do with the natural is the brains behind the thought that, prayers could actually influence the result in a bet. As far as I can tell, it doesn't matter the words you mutter to yourself or some unseen supernatural. In a game, its always going to be about the game and the moment. The outcomes that plays out is about the mistakes and who uses the errors for an opportunity at that point, especially in sports betting.
In cause of board games like poker and blackjack, its more about experience and the readings. You make use of all you can get for the game. God or supernatural aren't unfair and as such, getting involved with the games would be creating an imbalance in the odds.
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June 10, 2021, 07:21:53 PM |
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Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh god, does my god exist in gambling ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No god can save your life when you are a gambler Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Funny or not it cant really be stopped because there are people whom do really believe that divine intervention could really make out some impact or not and its none of our business if they do hardly believe on that. Believing in God when you are doing gambling doesnt really mean that they dont have respect on it nor very bad because we do respect it on the way that it could really affect someones luck into their gambling activity. Its true that it doesnt really work that way but if people do have these kind of beliefs then lets just respect it and let them be on what they do believe on.
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June 10, 2021, 08:11:30 PM |
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Believing in God when you are doing gambling doesnt really mean that they dont have respect on it nor very bad because we do respect it on the way that it could really affect someones luck into their gambling activity.
No no, you misunderstood the meaning of my statement ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm talking about religions that forbid their followers from gambling, and if those believers still gamble, that means they don't respect their own religion. It is different from what you are thinking ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Its true that it doesnt really work that way but if people do have these kind of beliefs then lets just respect it and let them be on what they do believe on.
Well, of course, I'm just saying that God can't help you with gambling, but the truth is that God is in everyone's beliefs, depending on their judgment.
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Lol, that was exactly what I say. There's no God in gambling and prayer does not exist in gambling since most of us think that gambling is a sin but yet we still gamble. If you gamble in the first place, you didn't believe God, so what is the reason for praying first before you gamble, God will hear your prayers for sure because in any religion gambling is a mortal sin in the eyes of God. If you still praying before gambling, that is your belief and no one will stop you in that way, but don't spect too much there is a result of your prayer and the last one, don't blame God why you lose thousands of dollars in gambling.
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June 10, 2021, 09:00:21 PM |
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don't blame God why you lose thousands of dollars in gambling.
The most important thing we have to put in our mind, God will approve what He thinks is good for you, if gambling is not, He will not give it to you. So just don't expect too much, because prayer will not help you win every day since luck does not come on a daily basis. Be smart and realistic, just improve the strategy, continue to work hard until you find consistency in winning, regardless of what game you are into.
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As @mu_enrico said, that is a Dice God that will help us to win, so we should pray to our Dice God ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Mmm, I think they respect their religion, but they are playing gambling in one circumstance, and I think that is because of the "make money." But I still believe that many of them still believe that they do not have to make money from gambling because they can search for another way to make money. They will stay away from playing gambling because that is prohibited in their religion.
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What an interesting topic opened by OP! Moltva or whispering spells or belief in omens before or after a person has made a bet is of course a way of influencing oneself. Having carried out the ritual, a person subconsciously and partially shifts the blame for a possible loss to higher powers. And this of course can calm him down in the future. I have a good attitude to such rituals, but I also cannot help but note that in addition to self-complacency of a person, there may be some kind of influence of these higher forces. The main thing is that you believe in them. And then they can help.
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Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.
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Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.
Coincidence and luck. That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you. Quite honestly this would be incredibly easy to find out if people were systematic in their approach, for example if people kept a record of each bet and whether they prayed or not before each one then we could use statistical analysis to tell if praying had any effect on your gambling results, it is to be expected that when you did not prayed the results you will get will align with the probabilities of the games, and if when you prayed you still got those kind of results then this means that your wins when you prayed were nothing but a coincidence.
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Well don't believe praising some rituals makes do something to win a gamble because it's all about luck this is the reason why some of the people bought and bring their lucky charm. It looks like you become dependent on your believes and prayer but you are doing a risk and chance to lose part of your life.
Well in some parts we cannot remove their beliefs and norms it's better to respect their thoughts to prevent getting issues from different perspectives.
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Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it. But there was nothing wrong with that, because even when he prayed the result was still very possible to lose, right? So it's just a matter of faith and I think as long as they can be comfortable doing that and don't interfere with the comfort of other gamblers, then it's still totally acceptable compared to gambling and stealing, then it's certainly better to gamble and pray.
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carlfebz2
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June 11, 2021, 04:47:04 PM |
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Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it. But there was nothing wrong with that, because even when he prayed the result was still very possible to lose, right? So it's just a matter of faith and I think as long as they can be comfortable doing that and don't interfere with the comfort of other gamblers, then it's still totally acceptable compared to gambling and stealing, then it's certainly better to gamble and pray. We do have our own ways and beliefs and you are right that it would be much better if we do just let them be and respect on what they do believe. Prayer is something we can say that wont really work when attached to gambling because this is a game of chance on where luck would be the most important thing of all. If someone do pray for him to be lucky or pray then he do really believe that God could help him but when they do lost then for sure they will realize up things but if they won then they would believe that it do really works.
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pinggoki
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June 11, 2021, 04:58:01 PM |
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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? Did it work?
Obviously, I will answer it as a big NO! Spiritual beings don't have any control over the gambling that we are playing and why would we pray? Praying is sacred and what we are doing is abiding by the sacred rule of the church. If we are gambling don't pray because it is more likely you are doing a sin just because you are gambling always remember that in the book of the Bible there's no such thing as saying gambling is good nor bad. Another thing is that stop praising rituals when you are gambling because even them cannot help you with your betting.
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June 11, 2021, 07:56:26 PM |
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Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it. despair leads people to commit crazy things or to look for something that gives them hope and optimism and most of the time they look for god to give them luck, but they don't think that gambling has science involved, it was created by people using scientific knowledge and there is nothing supernatural, then if there are hundreds of people praying to god for luck, then how would god choose someone and abandon others? it does not make sense. That's why I don't involve religion in gambling Obviously, I will answer it as a big NO! Spiritual beings don't have any control over the gambling that we are playing and why would we pray?
people pray to be lucky to win Well don't believe praising some rituals makes do something to win a gamble because it's all about luck this is the reason why some of the people bought and bring their lucky charm. It looks like you become dependent on your believes and prayer but you are doing a risk and chance to lose part of your life.
Well in some parts we cannot remove their beliefs and norms it's better to respect their thoughts to prevent getting issues from different perspectives. in Africa people use witches to do some kind of witchcraft to get lucky
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jostorres
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June 11, 2021, 08:40:07 PM |
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I sometimes pray when playing but don't blame God if I lose, I accept the fact that we should not involve God when we are not losing, prayer is healthy for our mental health, and we should do that in anything we do to strengthen our spirituality and we have control on how we gamble and will not become a compulsive gambler, praying is what keeps us from becoming a compulsive gambler.
Emotions are part of human behavior and there is no problem praying while gambling because it doesn't mean you are superstitious but it shows you are emotional about your gambling. Whenever we are in stress or trouble we recall our Gods, similarly, when we are gambling and the game is close we pray. Nothing wrong or right about that, it's just a reaction out of the gambler. Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.
Has there never been a time you recalled God? I cannot imagine someone living in such isolation that they don't pray at some point in their life. If you have never faced troubles, then maybe you never felt the need to pray but that's almost impossible. When I am losing a bet or things are not going well, I pray and it doesn't change the result but at least makes me feel better about my chances.
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June 11, 2021, 10:33:56 PM |
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There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling. And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.
Good point! I don't think all religions condemn gambling, but I agree with you that the outcome depends on luck and no prayer can change that. But let's not forget that gambling is intended for entertainment in the first place. If for some people it's more fun when they pray before making their bets, who am I to say they shouldn't do it?
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