Prayer and gambling.

[uneng]

I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.

How does God have nothing to do with math and probability if he is the creator of all things?
The basics of every religions is that a supreme creator gave origin to all the rest. Although minor gods possessing power to create also exist in some religions they wouldn't exist without a supreme creator that is above all. So God is associated with all the laws which rule the universe, what includes math, probability and everything else. God has nothing to do with the misuse of the elements of his creation, that are the addictions. But there are no problems in having a healthy gambling routine.

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[mig6r]

Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe. You have to remember that gambling is paying for entertainment and while some people use it in an attempt to get rich it doesn’t change the fact that you are paying for entertainment. Leave God out of your debauchery.

Amen.


I need to add a couple of words or otherwise my post might be deleted as spam, but what I really wanted to respond to OgNasty remains: Amen.

[michellee]

Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.

It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.

Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.

Prayer is not the answer of winning. Even in every game what you play in life, but prayer is everything but we cannot use it in gambling. You can still do it but we cannot use that as our security to win. If people doesn't want to lose more than what they can afford then simply play with the amount that they can afford to lose and don't expect that your prayer will help you in your every games. Being lucky is also a good time for us to win although kittygalore is right that the mathematics and probability can also be the one who made us win, maybe you should have them both, luck and probability to make us win.

Prayer can make you calm down, even in gambling. But that will depend on how you can control yourself in gambling. If you lose your control, you will not calm down but anger to see your loss. Some people beliefs that if they pray before gamble can increase their chance to win, but that depends on your luck itself. Whether you pray or not, if you do not have luck, you will not win. Getting lucky in gambling is hard, so it is better not to hope that your luck will come to you every time you gamble. Probability can give you the chance to win, but you still need luck.

[hahay]

I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.

How does God have nothing to do with math and probability if he is the creator of all things?
The basics of every religions is that a supreme creator gave origin to all the rest. Although minor gods possessing power to create also exist in some religions they wouldn't exist without a supreme creator that is above all. So God is associated with all the laws which rule the universe, what includes math, probability and everything else. God has nothing to do with the misuse of the elements of his creation, that are the addictions. But there are no problems in having a healthy gambling routine.

Right, it's funny when someone says "god has nothing to do with".
Because after all, God certainly knows what the person is doing but on the other hand, most of them don't realize that God knows and is watching. So in the case of praying while gambling it is still not a problem because after all, the gambler believes that his god will be involved but that doesn't mean that by praying the results will always be good, no. Because praying is just an effort from someone to get good results, even though the results are not always good but at least he has good faith in his god and it's not a problem.

[Rengga Jati]

someone's belief in what they believe is their basic right and we certainly can't force it on other people

Sure, that's exactly my point. You should realize it, I stated 'it is the right of the individual'. In this matter, we cannot force someone, belief is a basic human right and all people must respect it. Each gambler has the right both to pray or not pray in gambling, there is no problem about it. Only he/she knows it is good or bad in his/her belief.

In my belief, praying is just for a good thing, while gambling isn't a good thing. So, praying shouldn't include in gambling. But it is in my belief, if you have a different belief, you can do a different way. I will never blame you because doing a different way.

Anyway, I think our discussion tends to widen since we are talking much about beliefs or religion. And this discussion will be endless because of talking about an individual right. OP @Rruchi man, it is time to stop the discussion and lock the thread.  

[blackened515]

The belief that if one prays before gambling it will bring good fortune in the game will help,while on the other hand,when one goes to just try luck,whether he wins or not,he bares in mind of wasting the money most atimes tends to favour him than when he prays.Nevertheless,luck and prayer seems to be almost the same thing in gambling.

[roosbit]

Sentive topic but imo Prayer is good but this works in your favor if you have put in the hard work to achieve the intended results.

[Pokapoka124]

Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think

[kotajikikox]

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

I once try to believe in faith and prayers that will make me win in gambling specially when i still playing Cockfighting back in years.
and also when i am going to casino houses before and at first it is effective but sooner? still it is luck that makes me win.

Sentive topic but imo Prayer is good but this works in your favor if you have put in the hard work to achieve the intended results.

trust me this is not true mate, Prayers will never make you win but it is the Luck that we must be friend .

[AakZaki]

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The Lord God does not encourage a hobby for gambling.  There are many more godly ways to spend your money.  Therefore, in my opinion, it is not necessary to resort to prayer while gambling. 

There is an exception to this rule - if you plan to use your winnings for a godly cause.

You are right . But at the end of the sentence Are you kidding. LOL. For some people I meet, even though they want to do something forbidden they still pray. But maybe this happens out of habit. But if this is disputed later it will be endless. Everyone has different beliefs. In the end I just leave it up to you all, because this is a matter of belief.

[bitterguy28]

Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think

Wrong , if you have been playing for long in gambling then you must understand that there is nothing that can help you but your Luck.

this is something that you must believe mate and not that power above will let you win.

[BIN-BIN]

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Sentive topic but imo Prayer is good but this works in your favor if you have put in the hard work to achieve the intended results.

You are right, prayer alone can’t give you the winning, you need to put in some level of hard work to achieve your goal.

But in all prayers bring good luck, and gambling is all about luck.

[Silberman]

In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.

As much as we all know that these rituals do not affect the chances of winning, these rituals help us mentally and psychologically especially when a person is experiencing deep stress from the gambling activities. Although it is highly advisable that once a gambler starts feeling desperate that he stops, it is easier said than done. That is why, rituals like these exists.

Like what I previously mentioned, these rituals may not affect the chances of winning but they are harmless little activities that definitely help especially under stressful situations.

At best that is a beneficial aftereffect but the reason people pray in the casino is to ask for a favorable outcome and while this can give them peace of mind in the case they lose this is not what they were looking for, trying to gain an advantage by manipulating something that cannot by manipulated like luck is very common, this is why not only you are going to see people praying but you will see them holding objects that supposedly have brought them luck in the past and they keep them around with the hope this happens again, even when we know this does not really make sense.

[Pokapoka124]

Wrong , if you have been playing for long in gambling then you must understand that there is nothing that can help you but your Luck.

this is something that you must believe mate and not that power above will let you win.

You've got me confused. Define "luck"? What drives or attracts good luck? Is luck a function of belief in oneself? I'd like to know

[Mahanton]

Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think

Lots of things would get involved whenever you do prolong your game on where you do really end up on believing into something which is really a very common behavior for most gamblers but actually luck isnt something that can really be influenced because it does come randomly but there are people whom do really believe that they can really call it out on being lucky on a certain game which is really a very wrong mindset to have because this will surely motivate you to play even more and forcing out that you would really be winning the game just because you had done something.

[BlackViruse]

Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think

It's been what almost everyone I've known does before or while gambling,they must say a short prayer before staking,and the belief that the prayer will be answered most atimes makes them win.I personally think that one's prayer to any God before starting will determine his fate in the game.While some person's just don't believe making prayer before gambling and sees it as a waste.

[iTradeChips]

When I gamble I always do not invoke the spiritual on this. Since I was raised in a family who are semi-religious and are not superstitious. All you need to do is just play and simply leave it to chance. Sure, you can say that you might try to say something like "please" to fate or God, whisper that only you can hear. But for me it is not a prayer, maybe for others like you are asking God to make things in your favor. I just say "please" and if I lose, that is it. No remose, everything fine.

[Hamphser]

This is nothing more than superstition. If praying was all it took to succeed in gambling then we'd all be rich. I don't have any specific rituals I do before gambling and I think I have better results than the average person but I am also not as successful as people who have made a fortune. It is really just a mix of luck, risk, and sometimes skill that will determine how successful you will be.

Yeah, that's true let's are practical, but let's just also respect what they are believing and what they want to do, if they think that luck will come to them once they have done praying before betting then just let them go, lets respect them. Most of the time religious persons are doing that thing when they want to achieve something.

They would be also the ones who would really be realizing on things that they've been doing neither they would be finding out that prayer does work or not or typically overall random since we are dealing with gambling.

Lets just respect on what they do believe as long they dont harm out other people then i dont see anything wrong for someone to pray that he should won a particular game.

Its a personal choice and decision so its none of our business if they do believe that prayer does have significant while they do play.

[ethereumhunter]

Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think

It's been what almost everyone I've known does before or while gambling,they must say a short prayer before staking,and the belief that the prayer will be answered most atimes makes them win.I personally think that one's prayer to any God before starting will determine his fate in the game.While some person's just don't believe making prayer before gambling and sees it as a waste.

I already saw someone carrying a talisman, use a ring, necklace, or even rabbit foot and they will say that is their luck. They feel confident when they use that thing, but that does not guarantee them winning the games. And if they lose, they will only say that it is their bad day and will come again the next day. Some gamblers will pray before gambling and that is really happening in some gambling places. Maybe we think that it does not make sense to pray or use a talisman, but they still wear it.

[Stevcummings]

I believe there’re rapid solutions to problems, and Gamblers always want chances to improve their luck. I’ve seen some ethical gamblers some superstitious medal around their neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep their powers close when gambling or lighting candles and reciting some prayers.