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July 01, 2021, 11:05:00 AM
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It's no secret that whales with all their abilities are capable of doing many things including manipulating the market, but whales here are not just individuals, they can also be groups. Market panic is the target for whales, and usually it always happens so the whales will get richer and small players will be more disadvantaged because of the whales.

Yes, that's clear, what you are feeling now, but it is necessary to first observe why this market manipulation is happening now, whether it's because of individual whales or groups that are in power, not necessarily all of that happens, because there are still many fish. little observant in this regard.

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July 01, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
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It's no secret that whales with all their abilities are capable of doing many things including manipulating the market, but whales here are not just individuals, they can also be groups. Market panic is the target for whales, and usually it always happens so the whales will get richer and small players will be more disadvantaged because of the whales.

Yes, that's clear, what you are feeling now, but it is necessary to first observe why this market manipulation is happening now, whether it's because of individual whales or groups that are in power, not necessarily all of that happens, because there are still many fish. little observant in this regard.

they manipulate because they want to profit . maybe you mean is we need to figure out first why the market is falling because there could be other reasons for the fall not just manipulation caused by whales .
 manipulation or not , we can calm down and understand the technology behind the coin that we invest  .  their value could go down but they can recover and grow more bigger in the future
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July 01, 2021, 04:37:22 PM
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I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
Sure, whales can manipulate the market, but I don’t think we should really be relying on all these websites to tell us how much that whales own and how many they don’t. There is no site that can give you accurate on things like this, so there is no need to be relying on them. One person here can decide to own more than one wallet, and you won’t be able to tell if they are the one or not, because there is no way prove that.

These so called whales you don’t know how much they own in the market, and nobody knows. But one thing for sure is that they can manipulate the market in one way or the other to put things in their favor.
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July 01, 2021, 04:46:17 PM
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Of course, this is literally that's why they exist. There is still no regulation in the markets, so a whale can manipulate small-scale stock markets as it wishes and earn income.
it's not only a small scale market but when you are seeing the whales on binance and these whales can create a collusion to manipulate the big market. There are some big market that got manipulated by the whales even the whales can also manipulate the bitcoin market as well. The whales have been playing various market. The whales were also actively pumping the shitcoin and that's it.
All of the suspicious pump already created by the whales to fool the newbies and newcomers. Whales were playing in all scales of market.

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July 01, 2021, 05:29:38 PM
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Its not a new issue anymore, whales can manipulate the market by spreading FUD so they will buy for cheaper price.

They're smart and wise compared to an average investors/traders who are only counting for the market movement.

Whales can work as a team and has concrete plan on when to buy and sell their assets, this way they can maximize their profit. Seems like the future can be predicted on their hands when it comes to prices of the coins.
Indeed, by optimizing and enhancing their existing advantages in a great way, the futures of the market are volatile according to their different ways of placing their hands, some people may think this is a new thing but manipulation mode has been completely available since the crypto market started, we need this mode to deliver dream prices. When we don't know, the processing will be quite troublesome but for now, with such a scenario, I believe that investors are not short of some relevant, familiar answers beyond necessity

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July 01, 2021, 05:53:35 PM
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I personally believe that if the market is manipulated by whales, they can easily steer the market as they see fit but what I do know is that they will profit from every bad decision made by small investors.
If you can control your emotions when  whale act, it's not impossible that your investment can be profitable.
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July 01, 2021, 06:56:15 PM
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Interesting website. Well, I think when whales want to manipulate the market, it's impossible to escape, but what would be nice to know is who is a whale nowadays? I feel that the amount of BTC per person has decreased and the amount of BTC by institutions has naturally increased, I don't have evidence of this feeling, but that's what it looks like. In the past, some people were able to impact the market, today these same people would hardly have this ability. The market is more professional too.
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July 01, 2021, 10:15:42 PM
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IMO whales do control the crypto market most times, in 2017 the crypto market was highly manipulated by whales who pump and dump whenever they see fit, this is the reason why most projects during their crowdfunds usually have a max amount for one individual, to stop one person from owning too much, cause when they do they can manipulate the price of that coin or token whenever they feel like.
This is true, those who have the money can manipulate the market especially if the whales together to pump or dump the market, small investors will pay for the price of that action. Whales are doing it to earn more money and become more big whales, that’s how rich people stays rich. We can ride with the whales but it’s too hard to know their strategy, they can pump and dump at no time so be ready for every possibility.
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July 01, 2021, 10:16:57 PM
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they do manipulate the market but to a certain level. there is a certainty that most whales got liquidated at some point because no one controls the market. Also, Not all whales are equal. some has more funds than others. the large whales might has some certain control but on one Is above mistake and they might loose there funds if they fail to follow normal TAs and FA.

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July 01, 2021, 10:25:58 PM
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In my opinion if the whales were also manipulating the market but it looks like your SS has nothing to do with it dude. That site was giving you an information about the richest bitcoin wallet and it doesn't have any correlation with the whales.
The whales were dividing his money to the various coins and it may also have a very big amount of stable coins.
that's why that site was not relevant. the whales were very active on the centralized exchange site dude.

Good point whales do not operate on one wallet, there's a possibility some of those wallets can be considered as a cold wallet, whales can and they always been manipulating the market ever since, every coin has its own shares of whales, it's impossible for a coin without whales on it, not all investors are equal there are some who can afford to have more and some who can only buy a small share.

such chart will not give you substantial conclusion, and for coins with high market cap, that's hard to manipulate especially bitcoin. whales may somehow influence but it will not give a very significant movement in the market.
it may be true to some coins with small market cap, as small injection of funds will give a tremendous movement in their market. but with btc, this is hard to manipulate, unless, those big holders will agree what to do with their funds, but i don't think such scenario will happen.

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July 01, 2021, 10:45:39 PM
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Take the example of Elon with his another tweet.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1410529698497630212
Look, with such following, likes and replies on that tweet. There's no doubt that he can manipulate the market for whichever cryptocurrency that he might chose to shill. But most of the time, he's with Dogecoin and now it's rare that he tweets something beautiful about bitcoin.
Nevertheless, they can manipulate it at any way that they can do. Like investing with billions of their fund, using social media platforms, putting it on the news and etc.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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July 01, 2021, 10:48:55 PM
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IMO whales do control the crypto market most times, in 2017 the crypto market was highly manipulated by whales who pump and dump whenever they see fit, this is the reason why most projects during their crowdfunds usually have a max amount for one individual, to stop one person from owning too much, cause when they do they can manipulate the price of that coin or token whenever they feel like.
This is true, those who have the money can manipulate the market especially if the whales together to pump or dump the market, small investors will pay for the price of that action. Whales are doing it to earn more money and become more big whales, that’s how rich people stays rich. We can ride with the whales but it’s too hard to know their strategy, they can pump and dump at no time so be ready for every possibility.
In my opinion, whales often manipulate prices and what you have to do is just follow the movements of the whales, because if you go against the current made by the whales, you will definitely only get a loss.

There's always a bigger whale.  I remember back in ~2012 when pirate@40 was running his "bank" that later turned out to be a ponzi scheme, he was always bragging about being able to control the market.  He was highly successful at doing so and keeping his ponzi alive until a bigger whale took notice (the guys at bitpay) and squeezed the hell out of him, costing him his manipulating and gutting his ponzi scheme.  

Rather than follow whales into trades of shitcoins to risk your funds to try and profit, don't you think a better idea might be to just find legitimately undervalued useful coins and invest while trying to help build the infrastructure of said coins?

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July 01, 2021, 11:46:46 PM
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The market cannot be manipulated , this only comes to reality once the people react from the manipulating strategy of the whales.

Example they sold all their coin that will start the value to drop badly , if we panicked and sell our coins also then that will be the domino effect and the whales successfully manipulated the market.

But if we will not react and just let them sell their coin  then we are safe from their target and surely they will buy back again for the reason of failure .

What u said its manipulation, its usually didnt do as simple as that, they sold and create fud news to makes people follow their trap.
Its hard to resist not to follow them if entire market follows. But you true, if we didnt trapped, they will only play with themself and hurts huge trading fee.

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July 02, 2021, 12:06:16 AM
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The market cannot be manipulated , this only comes to reality once the people react from the manipulating strategy of the whales.

Example they sold all their coin that will start the value to drop badly , if we panicked and sell our coins also then that will be the domino effect and the whales successfully manipulated the market.

But if we will not react and just let them sell their coin  then we are safe from their target and surely they will buy back again for the reason of failure .

What u said its manipulation, its usually didnt do as simple as that, they sold and create fud news to makes people follow their trap.
Its hard to resist not to follow them if entire market follows. But you true, if we didnt trapped, they will only play with themself and hurts huge trading fee.
whales prepare everything well and with media connection they could spread anything bad or positive rumors . with huge source and even unlimited they could manipulated market. the only way only follow how whales playing, if they sell follow it and if they buy it follow it. dont ever againtrs the trend.
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July 02, 2021, 01:15:31 AM
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Somewhat yes. Their actions can influence the market at a certain level. People tend to follow the whales because it's hard to resist. Everyone is doing it so you'll follow. Do your own research and don't just hop on the train like everyone else.
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July 02, 2021, 04:44:29 AM
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Obviously yes, unfortunately the whales strongly manipulate the market when they sell they make the price go down but fortunately when they buy they make the price go up.
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July 02, 2021, 06:39:54 AM
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Somewhat yes. Their actions can influence the market at a certain level. People tend to follow the whales because it's hard to resist. Everyone is doing it so you'll follow. Do your own research and don't just hop on the train like everyone else.
whales can do everything because they have big capital to change the market direction. That is why it is important to read the crypto news daily so that all us as small and medium crypto traders and users have the idea when would be the time to make profit and make investments into the right coin.
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July 02, 2021, 06:48:49 AM
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whales can do everything because they have big capital to change the market direction. That is why it is important to read the crypto news daily so that all us as small and medium crypto traders and users have the idea when would be the time to make profit and make investments into the right coin.
but to follow the trend made by whales is not easy. they set everything up like a trap. they create hype quickly but trap some people who don't realize it. as well as whales with large funds that can make the market fall quickly when they have got what they want.
Following the hype of whales is fun, but it's very risky.
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Absolutely, Should  Elon Musk tell that he invest in a project, the project will grow incredibly fast. That means that all the influencers can turn the market in any sight. Also, I noticed when the market is bearish a lot of media creating articles about regulations, the red flags for crypto, and so on. Someone investing huge funds in it to control hamsters minds.
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July 02, 2021, 09:15:35 AM
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Absolutely, Should  Elon Musk tell that he invest in a project, the project will grow incredibly fast. That means that all the influencers can turn the market in any sight. Also, I noticed when the market is bearish a lot of media creating articles about regulations, the red flags for crypto, and so on. Someone investing huge funds in it to control hamsters minds.
Don't worry Your Elon Musk is starting losing his appeal and day after day the followers are losing support on everything he wrote .
and besides the recent tweets of this person comes low followed and the reaction in market is really small not like in the past specially when Tesla first accepts bitcoin as payment option.
also there are chance that even altcoins will never be on His side soon.









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