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August 17, 2021, 10:31:26 AM |
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whales and their communities can manipulate the market, because we often see very unusual movements in Crypto so that it can create very high panic among some traders in the market, of course, the market will continue to move just like the momentum or news that occurs in Crypto is also the same it is like that if the whale does not move but the trader moves with the same thought of course it will also affect the movement of the market.
Thats true, most of trader will probably follow the same market analysis and making the same move and maybe that could be taken advantage of by the whales. Its the same when there is sudden drop of price people will also panic selling because they think the market will go down even deeper making the price drop gets continued by the panic traders therefore making the market move so fast and very suddenly.
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August 17, 2021, 11:00:33 AM |
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Almost all of this week's topics talk about whale manipulation of the market, there are various comments we hear from people, but I don't think all of them do that, even though the veracity of the posts is 80% real. Indeed, if we glimpse it is true that the pope manipulates the market for personal gain, but whether this risk does not have a major impact on his personality compared to doing so, I think the whale is doing the same thing as Elon Musk's speculation yesterday on seeking his profit.
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August 17, 2021, 11:21:37 AM |
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i think yes..,Whales still can manipulate the market. The market is easily affected when big amount of selling or buying happens. And I really don't know if this will change in the future and the market will become immune to these incidents too. But I don't think that it will change. Because it is related to demand in the end. When even one person buys a lot of coins, the market is affected positively as the demand increases.
The popes who use large amounts of capital when buying any coin, of course, will always have an influence on every action he takes, whether it's selling or buying, both will have the same effect on the market.
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August 17, 2021, 12:12:34 PM |
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Sure, whales can manipulate the market, but I don’t think we should really be relying on all these websites to tell us how much that whales own and how many they don’t. There is no site that can give you accurate on things like this, so there is no need to be relying on them. One person here can decide to own more than one wallet, and you won’t be able to tell if they are the one or not, because there is no way prove that.
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August 19, 2021, 01:52:21 PM |
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There is no doubt that whales manipulate the market. They can easily pump and dump altcoins with their big capitals and also some of them are popular influencers, for example, Elon Musk, so they can influence people's opinions and decisions about altcoins. Many people have a strategy of buying something on news that a whale is going to enter this coin.
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August 19, 2021, 01:59:06 PM |
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In my opinion, since there is no central authority that governs the cryptocurrencies, then there is a big chance that whales coordinate and make calculated risks that would surely lead to them getting so much profit. There would be groups of investors that bought a very large amount of coins and they together calculate their next move. Us small timers do not have such luxury afforded to these people. Having insider information would also be a bonus for them especially if they have big connections.
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August 19, 2021, 02:01:52 PM |
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There is no doubt that whales manipulate the market. They can easily pump and dump altcoins with their big capitals and also some of them are popular influencers, for example, Elon Musk, so they can influence people's opinions and decisions about altcoins. Many people have a strategy of buying something on news that a whale is going to enter this coin.
It's obvious because the whales always have the power to do that so they can do whatever they want, because their goal with big capital is to make huge profits, so they dare to make big things on new coins and old coins.
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August 19, 2021, 02:18:36 PM |
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It is so interesting who owns the 4 wallet with 1 million bitcoins.
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August 19, 2021, 04:45:07 PM |
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It is so interesting who owns the 4 wallet with 1 million bitcoins.
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August 19, 2021, 10:41:31 PM |
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Since crypto market grew big market players manipulate the whole market to take profit from weak hands. Everyone is aware of it and some are just riding with the whales. Even stock market are manipulated by rich people. They sell the news and spread FUD to manipulate the market. Even tweets by Elon is now driving the market.
There are a lot of whales surrounding the market and those that are big players that will make fud and when the market dumps, they are the ones who will take advantage first and buy those cheap coins as much as they want. They are mostly the rich people that will always wanted to control the market so they can always buy crypto coins as many as they want and continue manipulating the market. Market manipulation isn't new to us and so investors are already used to it. If they can invest in those high potential coins like bitcoin and ethereum, market manipulation can't stop them from reaching new heights everytime these coins start to surge. Somehow the whales controls and manipulates the market to an extent with the help of some crypto users who don't know their stand, most of these big guys we see, holding a very big bag, will sell at a good price, create some FUD about bitcoin and the weak hands and most newbies will be very much afraid and sell at lose, prices goes down and these big guys buy back lower and makes more gains, you see the strategy, most of the FUD been spread is done on a purpose, so the wiser an investor becomes the better for him.
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Yes, Whales Always Trying and Manipulating Market, They Don't Care about you and me , They just need profit and for Good Profit they always manipulating market and booking Profit. Maximium Market Controlling By Big Hands i mean Whales.
no one care who is in profits or loss , every traders even that whales always thinking about their self. They will do anything they can to shake market even with releasing FUD regularly be their main weapon to reach their goals. as retail traders we must understand how they work , so we could move parallelly with them and gaining profits.
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August 19, 2021, 11:33:09 PM |
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It's hard to say whales don't manipulate the market, with the large amount of capital they can dictate market prices. But sometimes this is difficult to prove. But if retail investors unite I think whales can be fought, an example that has happened is in GME stocks. Prices continue to soar as small investors band together to fight price manipulation and cause billions of dollars in losses to big companies
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August 19, 2021, 11:55:34 PM |
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It's hard to say whales don't manipulate the market, with the large amount of capital they can dictate market prices. But sometimes this is difficult to prove. But if retail investors unite I think whales can be fought, an example that has happened is in GME stocks. Prices continue to soar as small investors band together to fight price manipulation and cause billions of dollars in losses to big companies
The manipulation of price can easily be done with low market cap coins, or those with coins that have very low liquidity. This is why, you can easily see them pump 100x or more and that you should avoid at all cost. As you may end up holding worthless coins. But for high market cap coins like btc, it is hard to manipulate even by whales. It is hard for them to talk with each other and make a move in the market.
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since 2015 they have been manipulating the crypto market, and that happened because there were no regulations or regulations to prevent what they were doing, therefore there was a Flash Crash on the market chart because they had made a scenario of selling in large quantities at one time so that the market experienced a correction
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After they have discussed together, they may do something together to bring the market to their desired results in a short period of time. But the giant whale does not operate frequently. There are many people staring at the activities of the giant whales. The long-term price is stable.
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no one care who is in profits or loss , every traders even that whales always thinking about their self. They will do anything they can to shake market even with releasing FUD regularly be their main weapon to reach their goals. as retail traders we must understand how they work , so we could move parallelly with them and gaining profits.
I really agree with you, It's impossible to eliminate the whales since they are also part of the market so it's better to follow the wave and move with them so rather than loss we can get an profit from their action, It's double-edged sword too, Sometimes it's good but sometimes it's not and we can't predict what will happens accurately so the best things to do it's DYOR!
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August 20, 2021, 10:35:27 AM |
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I somehow agree that whales are somehow manipulating the market specially those at wall street. However we can't blame them. That's how they play the game and its all up to us if we follow them or avoid them. But for me personally, these whales are good as long they hold otherwise it would literally hurt BTC's price.
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August 20, 2021, 11:36:33 AM |
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Based on my eight years in crypto I have seen a lot of market movers but there is not a single manipulation of bitcoin be it a whale or any force that can dictate the price of it. The fact that several address with huge stacks of bitcoin are is still non movers since the the beginning. Manipulation of other cryptocurrencies are rampant but not bitcoin.
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I think some of them does but others are only doing what they want and people are only following them,We don't know if they are manipulating or just doing what they want when they do something,For example selling some of their crypto we don't really know if they really need the Fiat or just wants to create a wave to dump the price.
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August 20, 2021, 02:46:58 PM |
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I think some of them does but others are only doing what they want and people are only following them,We don't know if they are manipulating or just doing what they want when they do something,For example selling some of their crypto we don't really know if they really need the Fiat or just wants to create a wave to dump the price.
I agree with you, most of them are creating trends, and small investors will follow the movements that the whales have created. when the whale moves to create a trend, small investors will be caught in their bait and FOMO in the market. that's when the whales take profit.
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