Stake frozen my account $181k from sports betting (only Euros/Wimbledon)

[FinneysTrueVision]

https://twitter.com/BettingScams/status/1178684755463811073
verification is made before deposit and not before withdrawal.

This only applies in Great Britain. Stake is licensed in Curacao so there is no KYC necessary to play or for withdrawing small amounts.

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[LEVSKI7]

i know it's curacao but whether they have a license from them or are unlicensed is the same.Curacao are crooks who only collect the money from the license. And they don't do anything else. There are hundreds of scam sites that only accept deposits but they understand Curacao, they don't care about anything

[dustboy]

any updates?

not yet, but i was told "tomorrow at latest", so i will update tomorrow, hoping this can be moved under the carpets and forgotten and i can get my money tomorrow

Sorry to hear your inconvenience experience in Stake especially it is related to big amount of money. You have done well so far by providing everything they asked for.

Hope you'll get your money asap, I do not think Stake will ruin their reputation for $181k because it should not be a big amount for them to release if there is nothing wrong with your account.

[AlzheimersSports]

Well it is about the end of the working day, here, and they have not yet fulfilled the promise they made yesterday
"Thank you for being on the call. You will receive an official reply tomorrow at the latest.
"

Causing me great problems, as having to take money from bank account to buy crypto, to be able to place bets on tonight's Spain v Italy game, on a different site, when I had planned to place them at stake with my balance there. (Of course, I have taken the advice of members and not betting with my balance on stake anymore until this is resolved)

[litecoinking200]

any updates?

not yet, but i was told "tomorrow at latest", so i will update tomorrow, hoping this can be moved under the carpets and forgotten and i can get my money tomorrow

if they are not letting u withdraw, make sure u get good enough proof and a reason from them. By the way enable private messages so people can PM u.

[Get-Paid.com]

(Of course, I have taken the advice of members and not betting with my balance on stake anymore until this is resolved)

Very happy to hear it.

[litecoinking200]

im pretty fking dissapointed of how they act and just keeps u waiting for a response.

[AlzheimersSports]

im pretty fking dissapointed of how they act and just keeps u waiting for a response.

it has become very strange, i can still login, place bets, but now after they said 2 days ago that it would be sorted by yesterday at latest, i have received no responses to any contacts

at first i did not want to make this thread (i had help from a friend who said best to put this issue in public) because I could not believe stake would ever be considered a scam, but now im sure so ? they are acting so very strange.

[wdmcm]

im pretty fking dissapointed of how they act and just keeps u waiting for a response.

it has become very strange, i can still login, place bets, but now after they said 2 days ago that it would be sorted by yesterday at latest, i have received no responses to any contacts

at first i did not want to make this thread (i had help from a friend who said best to put this issue in public) because I could not believe stake would ever be considered a scam, but now im sure so ? they are acting so very strange.

Try to be patient mate, and do not place any bets untill everything is solved. If you place bets, at some point you will lose and get on TILT and might lose all your stake.
You can show your seriousness and strength about the situation by NOT placing bets. Obviously Stake.com wants you to lose all your money, so dont do that.

[Obito]

Well, it has only been 5 days already but I think that given how big the amount is being frozen, they might be trying to make sure that everything is right first so there's no other hassle when they finally unfreeze your account, I mean I would be suspicious of this amount too. I don't think Stake will risk their reputation just for this amount, they have big sponsorship already, and this won't be their downfall hopefully, be patient and don't be quick to judge and try to contact them again if possible but not in an annoying way.

[s0lidus]

(Of course, I have taken the advice of members and not betting with my balance on stake anymore until this is resolved)

Smart move. Usually people get impatient and gamble until they lose all. I hope you still didn't gamble any of your funds.

Any updates from Stake? I find it interesting to follow this, as they always used to solve issues quickly. Such a huge delay isn't like Stake at all, but then again, we don't know any details about what really is going on behind the scenes.

[litecoinking200]

(Of course, I have taken the advice of members and not betting with my balance on stake anymore until this is resolved)

Smart move. Usually people get impatient and gamble until they lose all. I hope you still didn't gamble any of your funds.

Any updates from Stake? I find it interesting to follow this, as they always used to solve issues quickly. Such a huge delay isn't like Stake at all, but then again, we don't know any details about what really is going on behind the scenes.

200k is a big amount, they just want him to lose it.

[Maasdamer]

So 48h ago the guy was supposed to have a reply/solution and yet...... nothing.

What a joke this these stake representatives are!

[onecall123]

It's extremely pathetic to get experience, I can feel it. This is not a new case, we have been listening bunches of such occurrences. Every single time regulations, terms and condition impose you after a smart winning. After winning user made withdrawal request, then ask users for KYC that's ridiuculous. Clients want to relief this conduct from gambling site.

[Get-Paid.com]

Please provide those documents within the next 24 hours.

But

Well, it has only been 5 days

It's not "only 5 days".
They asked him to respond within 24h - they however don't respond back so fast.

That's a crooked behavior.

[litecoinking200]

i would take this to the court if they wont pay up and unfreeze ur account. 200k is such a big amount its not worth giving up on it.

[cruso]

It's sad how most crypto books are a law unto themselves. They never mention kyc when you’re losing regardless of the amount. Scenarios like this occur only when you win significant amounts and try to withdraw.

[AlzheimersSports]

It's sad how most crypto books are a law unto themselves. They never mention kyc when you’re losing regardless of the amount. Scenarios like this occur only when you win significant amounts and try to withdraw.

yes and it seems theyre changing the rules as they go,
they asked kyc. i provided it immediately
they asked skype call. I did that.
Then they say resolve within "latest" next day.

3-4 days later they just are hoping now I give up and be quiet? This issue will not go away, and will continue to erode your reputation until you sort this out

[Stunna]

Bitcointalk is an awesome forum in terms of users being able to get their story heard and get public opinions and a response from brands here. Over the years we've had to deal with a number of unsavory individuals that make newbie accounts to get their stories out and take advantage of the trust of the community. Normally we do not like to give these guys the credit of a response but given the attention this thread has generated we feel like we must.

Alzheimersline was frozen because this user is heavily linked to the theft of large amounts of money from slots abuse. rn7TFkRz9PZ2Cn9xwHh71TzkKPUrBhBdyc:0 is the ripple address that Alzheimersline consistently withdrew large amounts of ripple to. This is the same address that a number of accounts responsible for abusing Playson games for $100k+ were utilizing as well. We were able to link these accounts by other means as well but do not want to disclose everything here right now as to not make it easier for him to abuse in the future.


These are some of the accounts linked to the $100k+ Playson games exploit confirmed by their company:
Playson:

I finally got an update regarding the situation around the abuse, our technical team managed to reproduce the case and approved that the player using the specifics of the BJ protocol did the malicious exploitation of it. Such an malicious and unexpected activity beyond the standard operation of the client-server protocol provided him with a probability to get higher chance to win.
By for now we are working on the solution to fix the vulnerability asap.

These accounts were once again then linked to further theft on GameArt by the account dchil0007
GameArt:

yes, the winning is not legit because the player accessed the game in the way to manipulate the RGS and the winning. Please note that we added a an extra security label to prevent it. I will send you the report but the winning has to be voided and as we spoke not paid to the player.

To take this even further, we asked AlzheimersLine to have a video call with us and surprisingly he agreed. On this video call, the person talking to us did not know what bitcointalk was, and supplied a bunch of inaccurate information. It was very obvious that this person was not AlzheimersLine but someone offered a cut by the abuser to try and pass our compliance and gain our confidence. The individual posting here is not the same person.

Really not an unusual situation for us, abusers in the past have always used bitcointalk and accomplices to try and deceive. We've been doing crypto gambling for over 8 years, and I like to think that we have learned a few things since hufflepuff. In this case, this user and their accounts were frozen due to their sloppiness on multiple fronts which linked them to major thefts from Stake and these same exploits were used to exploit other websites in this community.

[btcgrin-vic]

Honestly, who cares if he took advantage of an exploit. Thats not his fault.
Day in and day out people lose money because of this.

Slots abuse, hahaha, what a joke.

Still you took his money when he deposited, cant say anything against that.

And thanks for first uploading an unedited picture showing all the email addresses, very professional. Hope someone saved this.

On trustpilot you claim blocked accounts get in "withdrawal only mode". So whats up with that?
Why was he still able to place bets, why did you take his deposits in the first place?