Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[Ziskinberg]

Inoue is irked on Casimero's antics hehe, watch the post fight interview of Casimero last weekend and you will see why Inoue wanted this fight to happen and punish Casimero for all of his antics thrown to the latter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7L7ldWijPA

I've search the video and you will be amused if you are a Casimero fan but annoyed if you are a hater lol.

I just don't know if what fight could be build up this year with these three fighters involve.

the rumours are saying that in real life casimero is really a good person but maybe to hype up his fights, he is resorting to some naughty tactics. we can't judge a person by what he portrays because sometimes the media will also hype it. but it is working, and now, it seems inoue is after him rather than on donaire.
if they can build a good following for inoue vs casimero, we may really see this fight to happen before the end of this year.

Yeah, i can attest to that. Casimero is a good person and if you watch his youtube vlogs, you can see there some videos of him helping his neighbors, relatives and friends during the pandemic. Giving out grocery items might be a small thing to others but if you are in a dire need of those, even a kilo of rice is like gold to someone.

This tactics of him is kind of working and personally, he must do it to gain attention and have that money fight which he badly needed. You can't be a saint in this sport unless your name is Manny Pacquiao or Canelo Alvarez.

They can't be boxers forever, and Casimero is already in his 30's, he understands that if he will not get a big fight, boxing would not change his life.

Based on the vlogs I watch, Casimero has never earned at least $1 million in a fight, his biggest payday was probably in the Tete's fight or the Rigo's fight where he made more or less $200k in that fight. Manny Pacquioa at that age had been making millions already, so he is inspired.

[Japinat]

@bisdak40, maybe you can activate the thread [Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight again, this fight is probably on already, so to not derail this thread, we can do the discussions on the right thread.

here's your thread created last Jan 2020 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220020.0

sending you a PM as well, in case you'll not read this one.

[electronicash]

Things are getting better and better on Casimero.

Casimero on doping as he pushes for title fight

LAS VEGAS – Now it’s Naoya Inoue who’s stalking Johnriel Casimero.

The undefeated world bantamweight champion raised the issues surrounding doping and weight management should a fight with the outspoken Filipino is finally made.

Inoue, 28, again took to social media in following up on his earlier demand to arrange a fight with Casimero, hopefully before the end of the year.

“Once the match with Casimero is decided, I would like to beat it under the rule of boxing,” said the reigning WBA and IBF bantamweight champion.

The tide has changed, Inoue is now more aggressive in making this fight happen.

We might see a great fight this year, and hopefully, there's no hindrance to it.

Great! I read somewhere that bob arum said that it will depend on Inoue's camp if they'll going to take the fight against Donaire, but seems that Inoue is more interested in fighting Casimero.

That social media thing that Casimero did really gather the full attention of Inoue's camp, for sure even the international medias already notice this news regarding to Inoue's showing his interest to fight the Pinoy champ!

Now we are just waiting for the final talk and the date once everything got settled between these two camps.

i have some doubts about casimero before but this time his swearing works to turn the tide. its yet not finally I've checked some articles where they both respond to tweets which its all still up to arum. there is no reason for arum to no approve this fight if both are up for it. i guess casimero will get a big fight after all to make more money and donaire is out of the picture now.

[Russlenat]

@bisdak40, maybe you can activate the thread [Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight again, this fight is probably on already, so to not derail this thread, we can do the discussions on the right thread.

here's your thread created last Jan 2020 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220020.0

sending you a PM as well, in case you'll not read this one.

Nice suggestion, I'm sure bisdak40 will read this as he is very active in sports betting discussions, especially in boxing.

I realized it's been over a year already since the fight was cancelled, both fighters have won several fights and now it's happening.

[tabas]

i have some doubts about casimero before but this time his swearing works to turn the tide. its yet not finally I've checked some articles where they both respond to tweets which its all still up to arum. there is no reason for arum to no approve this fight if both are up for it. i guess casimero will get a big fight after all to make more money and donaire is out of the picture now.

It's just Casimero's better in poking up both fighters and whoever goes flamed first, he'll get a sure match then. Well, you're right that it's going to be likely that we're going to see Casimero versus Inoue. As Inoue responded to Casimero's taunt.

[chaser15]

He is the "Angas ng Pinas", lol..  for Filipinos, we know what that means, and he is literally is.

Prove that to the ring. If we will only be based on how fierce Casimero is because of what we have shown against Rigo, that's not a good basis.

Inoue is a close fighter, just like Casimero and Donaire. That's his specialty. There's no fighter yet that put Casimero in a close combat match so he will surely be surprised on Inoue once they faced the ring.

But before any speculations, we should see any light first that the fight between them will happen.

[stomachgrowls]

He is the "Angas ng Pinas", lol..  for Filipinos, we know what that means, and he is literally is.

Prove that to the ring. If we will only be based on how fierce Casimero is because of what we have shown against Rigo, that's not a good basis.

Inoue is a close fighter, just like Casimero and Donaire. That's his specialty. There's no fighter yet that put Casimero in a close combat match so he will surely be surprised on Inoue once they faced the ring.

But before any speculations, we should see any light first that the fight between them will happen.

Dont know on why people are way too confident about beating Inoue yet look on the performance or on how he do fights on that recent Rigo then i dont see that would be enough on taking down Inoue.

Even we do just say that they are making some close inside fight then we couldnt really tell on whose going down or would really be having the edge.It would really be totally in extreme shame if he would
really making out some provocation and wont really able to prove it to the public that he's really that worth.Well, its understandable that making hype is part of the business but
It shouldnt really be ending up on being exaggerated because that would really create up some hate.

[stadus]

He is the "Angas ng Pinas", lol..  for Filipinos, we know what that means, and he is literally is.

Prove that to the ring. If we will only be based on how fierce Casimero is because of what we have shown against Rigo, that's not a good basis.

Inoue is a close fighter, just like Casimero and Donaire. That's his specialty. There's no fighter yet that put Casimero in a close combat match so he will surely be surprised on Inoue once they faced the ring.

But before any speculations, we should see any light first that the fight between them will happen.

Dont know on why people are way too confident about beating Inoue yet look on the performance or on how he do fights on that recent Rigo then i dont see that would be enough on taking down Inoue.

There's a reason why people are thinking that Casimero would beat Inoue because he was not given the opportunity to fight the monster yet.
Everyone wants to see less talking and more action, it's true that Casimero talks a lot but what fans admire about him challenges the best in his division and he is willing to fight anywhere.

Even we do just say that they are making some close inside fight then we couldnt really tell on whose going down or would really be having the edge.It would really be totally in extreme shame if he would
really making out some provocation and wont really able to prove it to the public that he's really that worth.Well, its understandable that making hype is part of the business but
It shouldnt really be ending up on being exaggerated because that would really create up some hate.

People are just too sensitive, I understand why Casimero acted that way because the supposed fight of Inoue vs Casimero was cancelled and now that it's possible, Inoue's camp is not anymore willing, of course, we can blame that to Bob as he is the boss, he gets what he wants. 

[blockman]

Inoue wants it this year as he wants to beat down Casimero to the ground but under the rules of boxing. I think his ego was really touched here, so he personally is the one who is more aggressive now to make this fight happened. Casimero was not hurt in the fight against Rigo, he looks fresh after the fight, so maybe he should start training now because the fighter that he will face will never run as Rigo did.

If the talks will go with what Inoue wants and the fight will happen within this year then that's a good year for Casimero, having two consecutive matches within a year.
It is for sure that Inoue is fed up with the calls of Casimero on him. Casimero poked him really and that made him want to fight him as soon as possible. He's going to show what he got on this match and while it's not yet official, still, things can change until everything is signed because unexpected things might happen just like what happened with Pacquaio's match against Spence Jr that was later on replaced by Ugas.

[Fredomago]

i have some doubts about casimero before but this time his swearing works to turn the tide. its yet not finally I've checked some articles where they both respond to tweets which its all still up to arum. there is no reason for arum to no approve this fight if both are up for it. i guess casimero will get a big fight after all to make more money and donaire is out of the picture now.

It's just Casimero's better in poking up both fighters and whoever goes flamed first, he'll get a sure match then. Well, you're right that it's going to be likely that we're going to see Casimero versus Inoue. As Inoue responded to Casimero's taunt.

More likely to happen, Casimero succeeds doing his work, gaining the attention of Inoue. Now the next thing to expect is the date for this fight and how the deal will bring more money for Casimero.

And who knows, with how he keeps his belt and both him and Inoue still on their prime, there's also a good chance for him to beat Inoue.

Fighters who were given privilege to take this kind of fight will do the best that they can to showcase their talents and skills. The desire to win as an underdog always brings the motivations.

[AmoreJaz]

i have some doubts about casimero before but this time his swearing works to turn the tide. its yet not finally I've checked some articles where they both respond to tweets which its all still up to arum. there is no reason for arum to no approve this fight if both are up for it. i guess casimero will get a big fight after all to make more money and donaire is out of the picture now.

It's just Casimero's better in poking up both fighters and whoever goes flamed first, he'll get a sure match then. Well, you're right that it's going to be likely that we're going to see Casimero versus Inoue. As Inoue responded to Casimero's taunt.

More likely to happen, Casimero succeeds doing his work, gaining the attention of Inoue. Now the next thing to expect is the date for this fight and how the deal will bring more money for Casimero.

And who knows, with how he keeps his belt and both him and Inoue still on their prime, there's also a good chance for him to beat Inoue.

Fighters who were given privilege to take this kind of fight will do the best that they can to showcase their talents and skills. The desire to win as an underdog always brings the motivations.

let's hope that their promoters will arrange it the soonest and not delay because of egotistical reasons or of that sort. you know, if they haven't agreed with the purse, they tend to delay and sometimes waiting if they can truly get high number of spectators. look at what happen to mayweather - pacquiao, they waited too long that both fighters were not in their prime anymore.

[mirakal]

i have some doubts about casimero before but this time his swearing works to turn the tide. its yet not finally I've checked some articles where they both respond to tweets which its all still up to arum. there is no reason for arum to no approve this fight if both are up for it. i guess casimero will get a big fight after all to make more money and donaire is out of the picture now.

It's just Casimero's better in poking up both fighters and whoever goes flamed first, he'll get a sure match then. Well, you're right that it's going to be likely that we're going to see Casimero versus Inoue. As Inoue responded to Casimero's taunt.

More likely to happen, Casimero succeeds doing his work, gaining the attention of Inoue. Now the next thing to expect is the date for this fight and how the deal will bring more money for Casimero.

And who knows, with how he keeps his belt and both him and Inoue still on their prime, there's also a good chance for him to beat Inoue.

Fighters who were given privilege to take this kind of fight will do the best that they can to showcase their talents and skills. The desire to win as an underdog always brings the motivations.

let's hope that their promoters will arrange it the soonest and not delay because of egotistical reasons or of that sort. you know, if they haven't agreed with the purse, they tend to delay and sometimes waiting if they can truly get high number of spectators. look at what happen to mayweather - pacquiao, they waited too long that both fighters were not in their prime anymore.

Mayweather never loses his prime, but maybe we can say that Manny is not anymore in his prime when he fought Mayweather, and looks like we got robbed as we did not see a healthy Pacquiao in the fight since after the fight he admitted that he had a shoulder problem that needs to undergo and injury after the fight.

I guess it was Inoue vs Donaire who are in negotiation now as Bob Arum is confident his boy would beat Donaire again and will strip the belt from him.

[chaser15]

let's hope that their promoters will arrange it the soonest and not delay because of egotistical reasons or of that sort. you know, if they haven't agreed with the purse, they tend to delay and sometimes waiting if they can truly get high number of spectators. look at what happen to mayweather - pacquiao, they waited too long that both fighters were not in their prime anymore.

Blame Mayweather for that. The promoters can't do something if the boxer isn't participating. They weren't able to force Mayweather since he's a top-class and a big money is always sure for each of his fights so they will just follow him.

But we can't compare the possible Inoue vs Casimero, Donaire vs Casimero, Inoue vs Donaire, on that since there's no other way to avoid it. They are currently the big names on their division and the match is always possible to happen. The fight will just circulate on their names.

[Dave1]

Inoue wants it this year as he wants to beat down Casimero to the ground but under the rules of boxing. I think his ego was really touched here, so he personally is the one who is more aggressive now to make this fight happened. Casimero was not hurt in the fight against Rigo, he looks fresh after the fight, so maybe he should start training now because the fighter that he will face will never run as Rigo did.

If the talks will go with what Inoue wants and the fight will happen within this year then that's a good year for Casimero, having two consecutive matches within a year.
It is for sure that Inoue is fed up with the calls of Casimero on him. Casimero poked him really and that made him want to fight him as soon as possible. He's going to show what he got on this match and while it's not yet official, still, things can change until everything is signed because unexpected things might happen just like what happened with Pacquaio's match against Spence Jr that was later on replaced by Ugas.

I'm not sure if the fight will still happen this year. Maybe early next year will be the best schedule for this two. I love how Inoue though responded from Casimero's antics and challenge and it's good thing that he himself responded and really wanted a fight. The only barrier is Inoue's manager, who we all know is cherry picking fights for his fighter because of the money they involved in them. He don't any Filipino derail his plan. As far as boxing promoters and managers, Bob Arum's knows what a Filipino can do inside the ring.

[blockman]

Inoue wants it this year as he wants to beat down Casimero to the ground but under the rules of boxing. I think his ego was really touched here, so he personally is the one who is more aggressive now to make this fight happened. Casimero was not hurt in the fight against Rigo, he looks fresh after the fight, so maybe he should start training now because the fighter that he will face will never run as Rigo did.

If the talks will go with what Inoue wants and the fight will happen within this year then that's a good year for Casimero, having two consecutive matches within a year.
It is for sure that Inoue is fed up with the calls of Casimero on him. Casimero poked him really and that made him want to fight him as soon as possible. He's going to show what he got on this match and while it's not yet official, still, things can change until everything is signed because unexpected things might happen just like what happened with Pacquaio's match against Spence Jr that was later on replaced by Ugas.

I'm not sure if the fight will still happen this year. Maybe early next year will be the best schedule for this two. I love how Inoue though responded from Casimero's antics and challenge and it's good thing that he himself responded and really wanted a fight. The only barrier is Inoue's manager, who we all know is cherry picking fights for his fighter because of the money they involved in them. He don't any Filipino derail his plan. As far as boxing promoters and managers, Bob Arum's knows what a Filipino can do inside the ring.

We don't know, both has the possibilities and whether it's for this year or next year, we the fans are the winners of this. Inoue is just waiting for the fight as he's always ready to fight with anyone. And if the promoters will have this match process already, we might see it happen at the soonest that it can. We all want that to happen so that Casimero can have his continous match and we'll also see if he'll be able to beat Inoue or it's Inoue that will be the undefeated.

[Hypnosis00]

Inoue wants it this year as he wants to beat down Casimero to the ground but under the rules of boxing. I think his ego was really touched here, so he personally is the one who is more aggressive now to make this fight happened. Casimero was not hurt in the fight against Rigo, he looks fresh after the fight, so maybe he should start training now because the fighter that he will face will never run as Rigo did.

If the talks will go with what Inoue wants and the fight will happen within this year then that's a good year for Casimero, having two consecutive matches within a year.
It is for sure that Inoue is fed up with the calls of Casimero on him. Casimero poked him really and that made him want to fight him as soon as possible. He's going to show what he got on this match and while it's not yet official, still, things can change until everything is signed because unexpected things might happen just like what happened with Pacquaio's match against Spence Jr that was later on replaced by Ugas.

I'm not sure if the fight will still happen this year. Maybe early next year will be the best schedule for this two. I love how Inoue though responded from Casimero's antics and challenge and it's good thing that he himself responded and really wanted a fight. The only barrier is Inoue's manager, who we all know is cherry picking fights for his fighter because of the money they involved in them. He don't any Filipino derail his plan. As far as boxing promoters and managers, Bob Arum's knows what a Filipino can do inside the ring.

We don't know, both has the possibilities and whether it's for this year or next year, we the fans are the winners of this. Inoue is just waiting for the fight as he's always ready to fight with anyone. And if the promoters will have this match process already, we might see it happen at the soonest that it can. We all want that to happen so that Casimero can have his continous match and we'll also see if he'll be able to beat Inoue or it's Inoue that will be the undefeated.

Inou wants to fight Casimero, so we will not see the rematch this year. This is going to be karma for Donaire if the Casimero vs Inoue fight will happen because he canceled his possible fight with Casimero just because he got respected for the trash talk, Inoue is disrespected but he wants to teach Casimero a lesson and beat him down, that's the difference between the two.

[stadus]

Casimero is slowly stealing the popularity of Donaire, he is making his name popular in the US due to his trash talk, and because of that, I'm sure the promoter would consider him getting big fights as they could sell the fight and make a profit. Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue is a good fight, both will be profitable, but it's Casimero now who is the hottest boxer since he has the recent win although in a boring match.

[crzy]

Casimero is slowly stealing the popularity of Donaire, he is making his name popular in the US due to his trash talk, and because of that, I'm sure the promoter would consider him getting big fights as they could sell the fight and make a profit. Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue is a good fight, both will be profitable, but it's Casimero now who is the hottest boxer since he has the recent win although in a boring match.

I know the trash talking is part of their strategy to attract many people and of course to sell more tickets on their next matches. I agree that those three boxers are great so what ever matches they agreed to, i’ll place my bet and watch the match. Hopefully, they can settle this one before the yearn end they still have time though.

[Johnyz]

Casimero is slowly stealing the popularity of Donaire, he is making his name popular in the US due to his trash talk, and because of that, I'm sure the promoter would consider him getting big fights as they could sell the fight and make a profit. Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue is a good fight, both will be profitable, but it's Casimero now who is the hottest boxer since he has the recent win although in a boring match.

I know the trash talking is part of their strategy to attract many people and of course to sell more tickets on their next matches. I agree that those three boxers are great so what ever matches they agreed to, i’ll place my bet and watch the match. Hopefully, they can settle this one before the yearn end they still have time though.

There’s always a good way to promote their matches but this one, it looks like unprofessional to me though its really normal nowadays. Yes, they’ll settle this one especially now that the hype is already with them. In no time, they’ll face each other and only a great boxer will win, and the boxer to beat here is Inoue for sure.

[TimeTeller]

Casimero is slowly stealing the popularity of Donaire, he is making his name popular in the US due to his trash talk, and because of that, I'm sure the promoter would consider him getting big fights as they could sell the fight and make a profit. Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue is a good fight, both will be profitable, but it's Casimero now who is the hottest boxer since he has the recent win although in a boring match.

I know the trash talking is part of their strategy to attract many people and of course to sell more tickets on their next matches. I agree that those three boxers are great so what ever matches they agreed to, i’ll place my bet and watch the match. Hopefully, they can settle this one before the yearn end they still have time though.

There’s always a good way to promote their matches but this one, it looks like unprofessional to me though its really normal nowadays. Yes, they’ll settle this one especially now that the hype is already with them. In no time, they’ll face each other and only a great boxer will win, and the boxer to beat here is Inoue for sure.

Seems that we will see the Inoue-Casimero fight first because of the growing interest in these 2 fighters.
Trash talk is normal in this sports because in some way, they find it one avenue to attract the interest of the boxing community.
But should not hit below the belt just to sell the fight. I think, that's not a good practice if you are hitting with words on a personal level.
This is why Donaire backed out because his wife was already involved with the drama.
In time, Casimero will tone down his tirades and learn when to stop. Better show what he's got inside the ring.