Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[Baofeng]

Look at Donaire too, didn't bother to move up weight but instead, he specialized on his main forte as no need to force him to move up a weight. Discipline is the key and not being arrogant and that's what Casimero is lacking.

P.S As I said previously, I won't talk about Casimero here in this thread as he's out of the pictire here unless involving him with Inoue and Casimero.

Well, it's inevitable not to talk about Casimero in this thread since Inoue, Donaire, and him are like linked together in this current timeline. However, I'm starting to get disappointed with Casimero. He seems to lack of self discipline. He should step back a little bit in his engagement with the social media If he wants to become a better version of himself.
Inoue and Donaire are two classy fighter and doesn't need to hype or vlog everything they do unlike Casimero.

Donaire though move up in weight, challenges the champion that time was Nicolas Walters, a tall guy but Donaire was out of this league as he was knock out in round 6. It was so bad that Donaire has to fight in the Philippines after his lost to Walters and fought at 122 lbs and then goes down to 118 lbs.

That's true, so much respect for Donaire and Inoue, but at the end of the day, this two are going to try and get each others head.

[Natalim]

Look at Donaire too, didn't bother to move up weight but instead, he specialized on his main forte as no need to force him to move up a weight. Discipline is the key and not being arrogant and that's what Casimero is lacking.

P.S As I said previously, I won't talk about Casimero here in this thread as he's out of the pictire here unless involving him with Inoue and Casimero.

Well, it's inevitable not to talk about Casimero in this thread since Inoue, Donaire, and him are like linked together in this current timeline. However, I'm starting to get disappointed with Casimero. He seems to lack of self discipline. He should step back a little bit in his engagement with the social media If he wants to become a better version of himself.
Inoue and Donaire are two classy fighter and doesn't need to hype or vlog everything they do unlike Casimero.

Donaire though move up in weight, challenges the champion that time was Nicolas Walters, a tall guy but Donaire was out of this league as he was knock out in round 6. It was so bad that Donaire has to fight in the Philippines after his lost to Walters and fought at 122 lbs and then goes down to 118 lbs.

That's true, so much respect for Donaire and Inoue, but at the end of the day, this two are going to try and get each others head.

He cannot handle a heavy opponent, not his weight and he was not able to carry his power. This is the best division for him IMO, he has the height advantage and he can really use his power to hurt his opponent, imagine, at his age now, he still beat a young champion and stripped him the belt, and that win was via KO.

[Distinctin]

The only disadvantage of Donaire's age is his stamina not his speed nor power, no one can doubt that because his oxygen tank slowly depletes as he grow older and so does the other boxers. What he lacks is the stamina to go all the way until round 12 without getting so weary because Inoue can still dance in the late rounds and that's the time where Inoue will summon all his strengths to take down the aging Donaire, I agreee Donaire's only choice is to be more aggressive and more accurate in the punches in the early rounds.

It is such a shame that we do not get to see Donaire fighting at his prime otherwise this fight could have a great chance of becoming the fight of the year, but still it is nice that we get to see the fight happen at all, and without a doubt the biggest obstacle for Donaire to win this fight will be his stamina, Donaire needs to accumulate enough advantage over Inoue during the first 9 rounds of the fight and if he cannot do it then Inoue will most likely win the fight by taking advantage of his superior stamina.

We can't do about that already as it was already in the past, the important thing is that Donaire is still improving to be the best despite of his age. I'm not seeing Donaire's age as an disadvantage because he still capable to knockout someone who will get caught in his punches.

Both have already have the knowledge on what needed to be improved and I think we will see a different version of them. As for power and speed, they don't have that much gap but the difference is that Inoue can take the punches while faking that he didn't felt anything of it and ofcourse their stamina level.

[carlisle1]

The only disadvantage of Donaire's age is his stamina not his speed nor power, no one can doubt that because his oxygen tank slowly depletes as he grow older and so does the other boxers. What he lacks is the stamina to go all the way until round 12 without getting so weary because Inoue can still dance in the late rounds and that's the time where Inoue will summon all his strengths to take down the aging Donaire, I agreee Donaire's only choice is to be more aggressive and more accurate in the punches in the early rounds.

It is such a shame that we do not get to see Donaire fighting at his prime otherwise this fight could have a great chance of becoming the fight of the year, but still it is nice that we get to see the fight happen at all, and without a doubt the biggest obstacle for Donaire to win this fight will be his stamina, Donaire needs to accumulate enough advantage over Inoue during the first 9 rounds of the fight and if he cannot do it then Inoue will most likely win the fight by taking advantage of his superior stamina.

We can't do about that already as it was already in the past, the important thing is that Donaire is still improving to be the best despite of his age. I'm not seeing Donaire's age as an disadvantage because he still capable to knockout someone who will get caught in his punches.

Both have already have the knowledge on what needed to be improved and I think we will see a different version of them. As for power and speed, they don't have that much gap but the difference is that Inoue can take the punches while faking that he didn't felt anything of it and ofcourse their stamina level.

Yes, both will adjust. Even Inoue beats Donaire from their last match for sure he manages to watch the latest win of Donaire.

And his camp will adjust to what possible strategy Donaire may use against them, in terms of Donaire, he already tastes the killer punches

of Inoue and with that, he needs to save up his stamina. Age may not be the problem, as looking with that last fight, Donaire still has

the kind of movement that can stand and possible in beating even the furious Inoue.

[Fatunad]

The only disadvantage of Donaire's age is his stamina not his speed nor power, no one can doubt that because his oxygen tank slowly depletes as he grow older and so does the other boxers. What he lacks is the stamina to go all the way until round 12 without getting so weary because Inoue can still dance in the late rounds and that's the time where Inoue will summon all his strengths to take down the aging Donaire, I agreee Donaire's only choice is to be more aggressive and more accurate in the punches in the early rounds.

It is such a shame that we do not get to see Donaire fighting at his prime otherwise this fight could have a great chance of becoming the fight of the year, but still it is nice that we get to see the fight happen at all, and without a doubt the biggest obstacle for Donaire to win this fight will be his stamina, Donaire needs to accumulate enough advantage over Inoue during the first 9 rounds of the fight and if he cannot do it then Inoue will most likely win the fight by taking advantage of his superior stamina.

We can't do about that already as it was already in the past, the important thing is that Donaire is still improving to be the best despite of his age. I'm not seeing Donaire's age as an disadvantage because he still capable to knockout someone who will get caught in his punches.

Both have already have the knowledge on what needed to be improved and I think we will see a different version of them. As for power and speed, they don't have that much gap but the difference is that Inoue can take the punches while faking that he didn't felt anything of it and ofcourse their stamina level.

There would really be one winner and its true that both does have already the experience in between their abilities on how they do fight lets see on what are the areas that they had improved or enhanced
because they have seen it on their previous fight which it is just common sense that they would really be making out some adjustments.
This fight is something that is really that exciting to see but it would be better if Casimero and Inoue would fight but well lets just accept this kind of arrangement.

[Pamadar]

There would really be one winner and its true that both does have already the experience in between their abilities on how they do fight lets see on what are the areas that they had improved or enhanced
because they have seen it on their previous fight which it is just common sense that they would really be making out some adjustments.
This fight is something that is really that exciting to see but it would be better if Casimero and Inoue would fight but well lets just accept this kind of arrangement.

We will expect both fighters to show additional strategy after their last fight,

Donaire gives us some glimpse of his patience during that last fought that he won, something new, knowing him as
an aggressive fighter. We don't know if how Inoue will adjust after watching that fight, if how his camp will
comply and find the right counter from that new strategy of Donaire. Very interesting to wait on this upcoming rematch.

[Natalim]

There would really be one winner and its true that both does have already the experience in between their abilities on how they do fight lets see on what are the areas that they had improved or enhanced
because they have seen it on their previous fight which it is just common sense that they would really be making out some adjustments.
This fight is something that is really that exciting to see but it would be better if Casimero and Inoue would fight but well lets just accept this kind of arrangement.

We will expect both fighters to show additional strategy after their last fight,

Donaire gives us some glimpse of his patience during that last fought that he won, something new, knowing him as
an aggressive fighter. We don't know if how Inoue will adjust after watching that fight, if how his camp will
comply and find the right counter from that new strategy of Donaire. Very interesting to wait on this upcoming rematch.

Donaire has to make an adjustment because Inoue already see what Donaire could give to him. He hurt Inoue, well, that's given but in the end it was still Inoue who dominated the fight since he won via Unanimous decision. If Donaire wants to beat the Monster Inoue, he has to beat him early, like what he did to his previous fight, he has to KO him early.

[Japinat]

There would really be one winner and its true that both does have already the experience in between their abilities on how they do fight lets see on what are the areas that they had improved or enhanced
because they have seen it on their previous fight which it is just common sense that they would really be making out some adjustments.
This fight is something that is really that exciting to see but it would be better if Casimero and Inoue would fight but well lets just accept this kind of arrangement.

We will expect both fighters to show additional strategy after their last fight,

Donaire gives us some glimpse of his patience during that last fought that he won, something new, knowing him as
an aggressive fighter. We don't know if how Inoue will adjust after watching that fight, if how his camp will
comply and find the right counter from that new strategy of Donaire. Very interesting to wait on this upcoming rematch.

Donaire has to make an adjustment because Inoue already see what Donaire could give to him. He hurt Inoue, well, that's given but in the end it was still Inoue who dominated the fight since he won via Unanimous decision. If Donaire wants to beat the Monster Inoue, he has to beat him early, like what he did to his previous fight, he has to KO him early.

Let's just say that Inoue is superior among other boxers in the bantamweight division, so whatever Donaire showed in his previous fight, that would not affect Inoue because he know Donaire very well, and the fact that he beat him in their first meeting despite he was injured, that says a lot that Inoue could handle the power of Donaire.

[Natalim]

There would really be one winner and its true that both does have already the experience in between their abilities on how they do fight lets see on what are the areas that they had improved or enhanced
because they have seen it on their previous fight which it is just common sense that they would really be making out some adjustments.
This fight is something that is really that exciting to see but it would be better if Casimero and Inoue would fight but well lets just accept this kind of arrangement.

We will expect both fighters to show additional strategy after their last fight,

Donaire gives us some glimpse of his patience during that last fought that he won, something new, knowing him as
an aggressive fighter. We don't know if how Inoue will adjust after watching that fight, if how his camp will
comply and find the right counter from that new strategy of Donaire. Very interesting to wait on this upcoming rematch.

Donaire has to make an adjustment because Inoue already see what Donaire could give to him. He hurt Inoue, well, that's given but in the end it was still Inoue who dominated the fight since he won via Unanimous decision. If Donaire wants to beat the Monster Inoue, he has to beat him early, like what he did to his previous fight, he has to KO him early.

Let's just say that Inoue is superior among other boxers in the bantamweight division, so whatever Donaire showed in his previous fight, that would not affect Inoue because he know Donaire very well, and the fact that he beat him in their first meeting despite he was injured, that says a lot that Inoue could handle the power of Donaire.

Maybe because Donaire is getting older while Inoue is still in his prime. However, let us not close the possibility that Donaire could pull an upset here because this is a big fight, they will do everything to win as most likely the winner of this fight will soon become an undisputed champion.

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

[goinmerry]

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

It's good that Donaire fought other boxers previously before having a rematch with Naoya Inoue. In that way, he can test if he can still be as conditioned as he should be whenever he is fighting. No choice but to train wise and hard as Inoue is on a different level compared to his previous fights.

Still, an impressive TKO in both of his previous fights was established by Donaire defying the laws of age. He just needs to maintain that good condition as even how good Inoue is, there's always a thing called a turning point that can change the expected result of the fight.

[agustina2]

However, I'm starting to get disappointed with Casimero. He seems to lack of self discipline. 

Too much arrogant that he wants to show something to Sean Gibbons and his opponent without thinking about the consequences. It's funny that their camp didn't know the rules since I doubt they will do it in the first place if they know that it's illegal.

Casimero needs a good team and people to surround him. They are all arrogant and feel they can conquer anything.

Look at the result of what they did and still silent about the issue because they know, they are really wrong.

[Mahanton]

However, I'm starting to get disappointed with Casimero. He seems to lack of self discipline. 

Too much arrogant that he wants to show something to Sean Gibbons and his opponent without thinking about the consequences. It's funny that their camp didn't know the rules since I doubt they will do it in the first place if they know that it's illegal.

Casimero needs a good team and people to surround him. They are all arrogant and feel they can conquer anything.

Look at the result of what they did and still silent about the issue because they know, they are really wrong.

It would be a foolish thing if they would make out some argument about the issue and its true that they have learned their lesson now on what do happens or looks like if they arent really abiding with the
laws or rules of boxing organization which would really be ending up something like this.
Cutting off with the discussion above since it do derails out the topic.Lets just see if Donaire would be having some sweet revenge on this upcoming rematch
if he do able to cope up with his flaws back in the past.

[passwordnow]

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

[Yaunfitda]

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

[Kasabus]

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

[Dave1]

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

[inthelongrun]

I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

It is always sad seeing old fighters especially the legends being beaten by the up and coming young fighters. Most especially those fighters you think will definitely lose to those legends prime years. Donaire losing to Magdaleno? There's no way a prime Donaire would lost to that young gun. Inoue would've been an underdog against prime Donaire. There are a lot of examples from Rosendo Alvarez to heavyweight's Evander Holyfield. It is either money problems which prompted them to fight like Antonio Tarver or simply they just cannot easily moved on that they are too old for this hurting game like Roy Jones Jr.

[Vaculin]

I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

It is always sad seeing old fighters especially the legends being beaten by the up and coming young fighters. Most especially those fighters you think will definitely lose to those legends prime years. Donaire losing to Magdaleno? There's no way a prime Donaire would lost to that young gun. Inoue would've been an underdog against prime Donaire. There are a lot of examples from Rosendo Alvarez to heavyweight's Evander Holyfield. It is either money problems which prompted them to fight like Antonio Tarver or simply they just cannot easily moved on that they are too old for this hurting game like Roy Jones Jr.

@Dave1, I think there's a type error, do you mean Donaire would retire?
Inoue will not retire because he is only in his prime years, and he will definitely achieve more, this fight favors him so much because it's a unification fight and Inoue had already beat Donaire in their first meeting. Though I like to see Donaire win this fight, but man, I cannot be bias as I know how good Inoue is.

[Distinctin]

The only disadvantage of Donaire's age is his stamina not his speed nor power, no one can doubt that because his oxygen tank slowly depletes as he grow older and so does the other boxers. What he lacks is the stamina to go all the way until round 12 without getting so weary because Inoue can still dance in the late rounds and that's the time where Inoue will summon all his strengths to take down the aging Donaire, I agreee Donaire's only choice is to be more aggressive and more accurate in the punches in the early rounds.

It is such a shame that we do not get to see Donaire fighting at his prime otherwise this fight could have a great chance of becoming the fight of the year, but still it is nice that we get to see the fight happen at all, and without a doubt the biggest obstacle for Donaire to win this fight will be his stamina, Donaire needs to accumulate enough advantage over Inoue during the first 9 rounds of the fight and if he cannot do it then Inoue will most likely win the fight by taking advantage of his superior stamina.

We can't do about that already as it was already in the past, the important thing is that Donaire is still improving to be the best despite of his age. I'm not seeing Donaire's age as an disadvantage because he still capable to knockout someone who will get caught in his punches.

Both have already have the knowledge on what needed to be improved and I think we will see a different version of them. As for power and speed, they don't have that much gap but the difference is that Inoue can take the punches while faking that he didn't felt anything of it and ofcourse their stamina level.

Yes, both will adjust. Even Inoue beats Donaire from their last match for sure he manages to watch the latest win of Donaire.

And his camp will adjust to what possible strategy Donaire may use against them, in terms of Donaire, he already tastes the killer punches

of Inoue and with that, he needs to save up his stamina. Age may not be the problem, as looking with that last fight, Donaire still has

the kind of movement that can stand and possible in beating even the furious Inoue.

Indeed mate, Inoue's victory on their first encounter will not be an assurance that he can still defeat the version of Donaire now because the latter still continues to improve despite with his age and that defeat he tasted last time against Inoue will be his motivation now so that specific encounter will not happen again this time as sure he have learned some lessons for that. Both have improve and prepared well for this second encounter, I'm excited though.

[passwordnow]

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.