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April 29, 2022, 06:32:39 PM
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.
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April 29, 2022, 06:59:40 PM
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Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.
There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.
Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

You mean Donaire to consider retirement if he will beat Inoue this time.

I also agree with that because he is already old enough to do some exhausting preparations prior to the fight and he should really give some way for other young aspiring Filipino boxers like Casimero, Magsayo and etc. Pacquaio passed down his torch to him and know I think it is time to pass that same torch again. But let's consider that he indeed beat Inoue, I think that the latter will force some way for a trilogy though.

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April 30, 2022, 03:40:50 PM
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.
Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

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May 01, 2022, 10:49:58 AM
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.
Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.

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May 01, 2022, 11:55:31 AM
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.
Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.


He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.


Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

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May 01, 2022, 07:30:43 PM
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Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

Why retire if he can make good money continuing to fight? Likewise, it will be depends on the outcome and the decision

of his camp, who knows he will win and push this to trilogy, that's something interesting for the fans, and for sure the organization and

the gambling industry will embrace that possibility with a wide open arms. They can make more money from those fans who wanted to

see if who between Inoue and Donaire will be the top fighter from this division.
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May 01, 2022, 08:20:06 PM
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Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

Why retire if he can make good money continuing to fight? Likewise, it will be depends on the outcome and the decision

of his camp, who knows he will win and push this to trilogy, that's something interesting for the fans, and for sure the organization and

the gambling industry will embrace that possibility with a wide open arms. They can make more money from those fans who wanted to

see if who between Inoue and Donaire will be the top fighter from this division.
Everything wont end up in talks of money but knowing Donaire he would come after for the glory and ever if Donaire would win this rematch then high possibility that this one would go for Trilogy

and its true that boxing is business which they could really sip out as much as they could but actually this goes for honor specially knowing on what kind of boxer Inoue and Donaire is.

Its true that as long they could fight then age issue wont really be that much of a hindrance and stopping will be mostly on personal type of choice and not basing on what
team is dictating.

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May 01, 2022, 08:50:21 PM
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Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.
Yeah, he can also promise to himself that any result would be lightly going to be accepted by him. He just have to enjoy this as it could be his last match.
But I know, there's pride in being a fighter and he won't allow Inoue to win for the second time and at least the tie breaker for their score would be delighting for him already.

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May 01, 2022, 08:54:29 PM
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Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.
Yeah, he can also promise to himself that any result would be lightly going to be accepted by him. He just have to enjoy this as it could be his last match.
But I know, there's pride in being a fighter and he won't allow Inoue to win for the second time and at least the tie breaker for their score would be delighting for him already.

the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

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May 02, 2022, 10:10:16 AM
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Yeah, he can also promise to himself that any result would be lightly going to be accepted by him. He just have to enjoy this as it could be his last match.
But I know, there's pride in being a fighter and he won't allow Inoue to win for the second time and at least the tie breaker for their score would be delighting for him already.

the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.
Well if that happens, when Inoue's camp asks for a rematch then it is on Donaire's decision if he's the one being asked and had won the upcoming match. Well, it is all speculation that we have.
Everything is possible when it is about the outcome. Whoever wins will definitely take the advantage.

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May 02, 2022, 01:29:59 PM
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the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

I read in one local sports article in the Philippines Domaire says that in their first fight he just go there to brawl with Inoue but this time he has a plan to beat Inoue, I think he will go prepared for this fight with a sure plan because he tasted Inoue's power but Inoue also tasted his power and he is fully aware on Donaire's last two fights where he won decisively,
He knows that he will face a new Donaire I'm sure his team will also come with their own plan, its a battle of plan on who has a better plan.

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the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

I read in one local sports article in the Philippines Domaire says that in their first fight he just go there to brawl with Inoue but this time he has a plan to beat Inoue, I think he will go prepared for this fight with a sure plan because he tasted Inoue's power but Inoue also tasted his power and he is fully aware on Donaire's last two fights where he won decisively,
He knows that he will face a new Donaire I'm sure his team will also come with their own plan, its a battle of plan on who has a better plan.

I like that, Donaire has to be very careful in using his power as he might get exhausted again in the end. This is a big chance for Donaire to avenge his loss and prove to the world that his career is not over, I'm so excited now upon reading the news you shared, I feel like this would not be a one sided fight.

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May 02, 2022, 06:10:01 PM
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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.
Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.


He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.


Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.
Donaire's situation is not that that the same as Manny Pacquiao's situation back when he is still doing fights because Donaire will be an ordinary man if he decides to hang his gloves while the latter has been more into the world of politics that's why he decided to retire specially that time because he was already a senator in the Philippines, IIRC.

Anyways, Donaire needs to decide after this fight no matter if he win or lose and if he will still pursue his career even though he is not getting any younger. He is already vulnerable unlike these young boxers who's recover and healing process is somehow shorter.

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May 02, 2022, 08:19:14 PM
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the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

I read in one local sports article in the Philippines Domaire says that in their first fight he just go there to brawl with Inoue but this time he has a plan to beat Inoue, I think he will go prepared for this fight with a sure plan because he tasted Inoue's power but Inoue also tasted his power and he is fully aware on Donaire's last two fights where he won decisively,
He knows that he will face a new Donaire I'm sure his team will also come with their own plan, its a battle of plan on who has a better plan.

I like that, Donaire has to be very careful in using his power as he might get exhausted again in the end. This is a big chance for Donaire to avenge his loss and prove to the world that his career is not over, I'm so excited now upon reading the news you shared, I feel like this would not be a one sided fight.

It's good to see that Donaire still has that composure, it's very important to set plans before stepping inside the ring.

I agree that the first time they've met he just attack and try to bring down Inoue the soonest that he can, but unfortunately,

he didn't manage to KO but instead he loss his stamina and in the few remaining rounds we have seen that he don't have

that power to take Inoue down, but this time, he will be more careful and prepared, making it more harder for Inoue, expecting

to see more greatness among these two fighters. Wink
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May 02, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
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I like that, Donaire has to be very careful in using his power as he might get exhausted again in the end. This is a big chance for Donaire to avenge his loss and prove to the world that his career is not over, I'm so excited now upon reading the news you shared, I feel like this would not be a one sided fight.
It's okay to get a full blown on this match so that he can take advantage as he do that. Yeah, his career won't be over but it's about to be because it's likely that he'll get into retirement and that's not a negative note for him.
So if he's saying that he's about to get serious on this match, it's the fighting spirit that he's got in but I'm sure that he's not belittling Inoue on this one and when matches are about to happen, such statements are really made but I want him to beat Inoue just as he says.

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May 02, 2022, 09:13:02 PM
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And If Donaire wanted to win against Inoue, he'd rather develop his body weakness as this is the most possible target otherwise, he losses again.
He must find a hole for Inoue in order to take him down as he is firm and strong that he can really take a hard punch at their first meet. For this rematch, he must have to be more aggressive as this is the only way Inoue can make preparation for the next move.

They don't have a long age gap that is why I don't weigh this as a factor as experience is really an advantage when it comes to boxing sports.

The age gap is 10 years and in boxing, it is already considered a wide margin plus the fact that Nonito Donaire is 39 years old, this is to his disadvantage as reflexes as a boxer reduce as an individual aged, of course with an exemption to a few boxers who really excel even though they are 40 years old but to most this is a disadvantage.

Inoue has learned a lot from their first fight so I think he will be very careful in the rematch so as to not fall prey to Donaire's lethal left hook. Donaire's chance here is a lucky punch that Inoue won't see though very slim but still a possible scenario.
With the dynamite left hand of Donaire, Inoue may end up defeated this time if he's not speed enough to make a defense. But i think Inoue must have prepared for it already as he had beaten already Donaire through a unanimous decision way back then. So the upcoming rematch will be another exciting game for both audience and the two opposite teams. Hopefully this time, scoring with KO will close the fight.

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May 02, 2022, 09:36:42 PM
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Anyways, Donaire needs to decide after this fight no matter if he win or lose and if he will still pursue his career even though he is not getting any younger. He is already vulnerable unlike these young boxers who's recover and healing process is somehow shorter.

In fairness to Nonito Donaire, he's not like any boxer that is currently in the retirement period but still showing explosiveness. The fact that Donaire established 2 wins at between 38 and 39 years of age, and take note, it was both 4th round knockout wins, how can we even think that it's time now to hang his gloves.

Actually, from what I see, he just moves forward by having a rematch with Inoue because he won his previous fights and become a champion. For let's say he loses in his last fights, I doubt Donaire will still push on a rematch with Inoue. It means, he knows that he has the power to defeat Inoue regardless of the chance.

The main objective now is how to execute it properly on the day of the fight.

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May 02, 2022, 09:48:23 PM
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He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.
Sad to see boxer retire their gloves but its good that we are able to witness their goodness in the ring and provide as a good entertainment as well. Most probably Donaire is not thinking about retirement right now which I think is good because he still need to focus on his up coming match and need to be more prepared as well to avoid any big injuries considering his age, there’s a chance that he may ended up his career on a bad situation which I hope not to happen to him. Inoue is still young compare to Donaire, but again age doesn’t rule the game here and everything is really possible to happen.
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In fairness to Nonito Donaire, he's not like any boxer that is currently in the retirement period but still showing explosiveness. The fact that Donaire established 2 wins at between 38 and 39 years of age, and take note, it was both 4th round knockout wins, how can we even think that it's time now to hang his gloves.

Only the one who owns the body knows if he needs to retire or not.  If Donaire thinks of retiring after this fight, then probably he knows that he will have difficulty catching up with the younger boxers and don't want to torment himself knowing that the possibility of losing his future match is greater.

Actually, from what I see, he just moves forward by having a rematch with Inoue because he won his previous fights and become a champion.

It is all about money, of course, having Donaire win his previous and snatching another title is the best condition for business to fight Inoue again. 

For let's say he loses in his last fights, I doubt Donaire will still push on a rematch with Inoue.

He wouldn't have the confidence to fight Inoue if he did lose his last fight, or the system won't make him to do so.
 




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He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.
Sad to see boxer retire their gloves but its good that we are able to witness their goodness in the ring and provide as a good entertainment as well. Most probably Donaire is not thinking about retirement right now which I think is good because he still need to focus on his up coming match and need to be more prepared as well to avoid any big injuries considering his age, there’s a chance that he may ended up his career on a bad situation which I hope not to happen to him. Inoue is still young compare to Donaire, but again age doesn’t rule the game here and everything is really possible to happen.
He wont be retiring as soon he could still able to fight or he do still have passion on fighting other boxers because its not really enough reason for someone to stop because of age or well it might be

on personal reason on why they do really make out such decisions but its still way too early for Donaire i would say yet he could still able to dance in the canvass showing off his greatness.

If he do wins on this upcoming fight then i do really see that there would really be a trilogy that would happen on this one.

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