Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[goaldigger]

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Donaire, the Filipino four-division champion, weighed in at 53.4 kg (117.7 lbs), while Inoue, the Japanese knockout artist, weighed in at 53.5 kg (117.9 lbs).

So in terms of weight then its almost the same, so i dont see any relevance on having excuse of their weights.It is really just
the body of Donaire is bit slimmer compared into their first fight.

There should be no more excuses as we all witnessed the unstoppable Inoue and we should give credit to him. Donaire is a good boxer too, it’s just that his opponent are more prepared against him and more skilled boxer. Still hoping to see Donaire to fight again, or maybe he will decide to retire already. This is a sad result for me, but that’s fine because Donaire still gave so much pride to our country, he’s a legend for me.

[bisdak40]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

[Yaunfitda]

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Donaire, the Filipino four-division champion, weighed in at 53.4 kg (117.7 lbs), while Inoue, the Japanese knockout artist, weighed in at 53.5 kg (117.9 lbs).

So in terms of weight then its almost the same, so i dont see any relevance on having excuse of their weights.It is really just
the body of Donaire is bit slimmer compared into their first fight.

There should be no more excuses as we all witnessed the unstoppable Inoue and we should give credit to him. Donaire is a good boxer too, it’s just that his opponent are more prepared against him and more skilled boxer. Still hoping to see Donaire to fight again, or maybe he will decide to retire already. This is a sad result for me, but that’s fine because Donaire still gave so much pride to our country, he’s a legend for me.

Yes, we give credit to Inoue for stopping Donaire, just the second time that he has been knock out, first is when he try to move up in weight, Nickolas Walters demolishes Nonito. But this is more brutal than his first knock out, Inoue is a true monster  and no one can stop him, not even Casimero I believed. Butler? nah, the same, he will get knock out as well if ever they fight. All of us are sad, but we have to a face the reality that Nonito is really not in his prime and if he wants to continue to fight, maybe he will be the stepping stone for younger generation.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

That's eventually what Inoue and his handlers will likely do, it will be another easy fight for Inoue against Butler. He can even travel to UK, have the fight there and go home with the belts, as unified champion. That will be the perfect scenario for him before he can move up in weight. And maybe we can see some resistance in a higher weight, and we will have to see if he can carry the same speed an power because at bantamweight, he is like Canelo, cleaning the division up.

[goinmerry]

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

Naoya Inoue will surely get that WBO Title from Paul Butler and will become the undisputed champion in the Bantamweight Division. That was the most realistic thing to happen and that fight will be a landslide victory for Inoue. Even if Casimero will be able to climb up rankings, there's no way he can chase the Japanese monster now because Inoue has no reason at all to stay at Bantamweight.

The possible thing to happen is that Casimero can chase Inoue at the Super Bantamweight, of course, if he can get good credentials once he back again. But since Casimero has difficulty maintaining his weight, I doubt he can make it to the Super Bantamweight. That was a long way process that's why we can't end now the possibility of Quadro Alas facing Inoue in the future.

[btc_angela]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now and I will say that it could be more exciting than Donaire fight as Casimero could go beyond round two and who knows, maybe put Inoue in trouble if ever they fight. But it is not going to happen at bantamweight. If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

[AmoreJaz]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now and I will say that it could be more exciting than Donaire fight as Casimero could go beyond round two and who knows, maybe put Inoue in trouble if ever they fight. But it is not going to happen at bantamweight. If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

high likely that the next fight for inoue is butler, because he is holding the wbo belt. no reason for casimero to challenge inoue because he doesn't have any belt right now. for donaire, i believe, the next best thing to do is to retire in this bloody sport. better enjoy his life away from this brutal sports. for inuoe, he has bright future ahead. for sure, there will be big names trying to challenge him. he is one of the bankable boxers right now.

[Mahanton]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now and I will say that it could be more exciting than Donaire fight as Casimero could go beyond round two and who knows, maybe put Inoue in trouble if ever they fight. But it is not going to happen at bantamweight. If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

high likely that the next fight for inoue is butler, because he is holding the wbo belt. no reason for casimero to challenge inoue because he doesn't have any belt right now. for donaire, i believe, the next best thing to do is to retire in this bloody sport. better enjoy his life away from this brutal sports. for inuoe, he has bright future ahead. for sure, there will be big names trying to challenge him. he is one of the bankable boxers right now.

Donaire had attained enough or do something in his overall or entire career which he had a good run and its not bad to consider on retiring for good.He had done his best and people
wont really be forgetting on what he had achieved but we know that in sports where every athlete or fighter wont really be that great forever.
Younger ones or new era would be definitely be replacing and Inoue is really going into that track.

[chaser15]

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now

If only Casimero didn't become arrogant and boastful in his career that he thinks he is always right, he is surely the next fight for Naoya Inoue and the promoters have no choice but to officially set it up as it was the last unification match for the Bantamweight division. He is full of talks instead of bringing his confidence in the actual match.

Don't feel regret if Casimero doesn't have a chance now at Inoue since that's a lesson for Casimero. I will also admit that even if they faced each other, Inoue will just defeat Casimero. Let's admire instead that we have another superstar in the making that comes from Asia.

If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

Paul Butler has only a slight chance to upset the monster. He's not even quick.

He won't even stand a chance to either Donaire or Casimero.

[Fundamentals Of]

What happened to that fight is quite boring and rather painful for Donaire. He didn't even last for a few rounds to showcase what he had trained for, and went down so easily after 2 rounds. Well according to the man himself, Inoue landed what Donaire described as the "hardest punch" he has ever been hit, and that says a lot about the raw power of Inoue.

No rematch needed for Donaire to reclaim his glory. This fight, IMO, should be an indication that he should hang the gloves for good.

It wasn't boring for me. There was an exchange of heavy blows. It was a good fight. It was just that the fight ended so quickly that we haven't really enjoyed the fight that much. Donaire just couldn't absorb the strong head blows from the monster. Actually I think that if not for the bell in the first round, Donaire wouldn't have survived from that first knockdown. For sure Inoue will rain on him with very hard punches. Donaire was lucky he was saved by the bell. But what I noticed with Donaire though is that he doesn't clinch. It was needed for him when he was hurt.

Donaire admitted in the post-fight interview that he made a mistake, he goes toe to toe with Inoue but it was not actually the game plan. Bad move for him, and he suffered a bad defeat, anyway, if he would still want to fight he can still fight for sure, but not against Inoue as he cannot beat the monster.

no news yet if he would retire or not, but hopefully he will do the right thing which is to retire.

Yes, Donaire himself admitted he failed in their game plan. That he wanted to have a brawl was really a big mistake. He must have overestimated himself and his condition that he forgot he is fighting against the monster Naoya who knocked out almost all of his opponents. He couldn't afford a brawl against Naoya.

But did the realization only come after he is already defeated? Did it not come to them after the first round? Donaire continued to exchange blows in the second when he should have been jabbing, running, countering, and clinching.

[RealMalatesta]

If the fight will be happen Inoue vs Butler, I'd say Inoue will won via KO again since Butler is weaker than Donaire. Honestly I'm surprised Donaire loss via KO on the second round, I thought he will loss above 9 rounds via KO or UD.

Donaire should retire after this fight. I do not know if people would love to watch him in a fight or not, but for his own health he should retire. What you need to understand is that even if you are a sports person, when you are 39 years old, your body is not holding up together like it did back in your 20's, meaning that every punch has a lasting affect more than usual.

It could even be deadly if you fight until you are way too hold. Sure there are some people who boxed when they were 40+ years old, but most of those fights were either against other old people, or against people who would not be serious threat to them. Hell Tyson "boxed" recently in an exhibition match for example, Donaire could do that, but no title fights for him ever again, it is too risky.

[Jawhead999]

Hell Tyson "boxed" recently in an exhibition match for example, Donaire could do that, but no title fights for him ever again, it is too risky.

Who is Hell you mean? I didn't find any boxing exhibition match Mike Tyson vs Hell, it's a UFC and moreover it just a game lol. His exhibition fight was against Roy Jones on 2020, there's a rumor he will fight against Jake Paul, but seems it's got cancelled. The thing is Mike Tyson is a legend in professional boxing career and almost people already know him. Unlike Donaire who doesn't really popular anymore after losing all his belts in this current weight.

[Coin_trader]

If the fight will be happen Inoue vs Butler, I'd say Inoue will won via KO again since Butler is weaker than Donaire. Honestly I'm surprised Donaire loss via KO on the second round, I thought he will loss above 9 rounds via KO or UD.

Donaire should retire after this fight. I do not know if people would love to watch him in a fight or not, but for his own health he should retire. What you need to understand is that even if you are a sports person, when you are 39 years old, your body is not holding up together like it did back in your 20's, meaning that every punch has a lasting affect more than usual.

It could even be deadly if you fight until you are way too hold. Sure there are some people who boxed when they were 40+ years old, but most of those fights were either against other old people, or against people who would not be serious threat to them. Hell Tyson "boxed" recently in an exhibition match for example, Donaire could do that, but no title fights for him ever again, it is too risky.

Well this shouldn't happening at the first place since we know the age gap of this 2 fighter is so high and Inoue is a monster base on his previous matches. Donaire is just holding the belt that's why this match continue and also as a rematch.

To be honest, I don't enjoy the match even its just starting because its clear that Donaire can't keep up to Inoue phase which dominates him most of the time. Retirement is the best choice to do for Donaire at this point.

[Twentyonepaylots]

If the fight will be happen Inoue vs Butler, I'd say Inoue will won via KO again since Butler is weaker than Donaire. Honestly I'm surprised Donaire loss via KO on the second round, I thought he will loss above 9 rounds via KO or UD.

Donaire should retire after this fight. I do not know if people would love to watch him in a fight or not, but for his own health he should retire. What you need to understand is that even if you are a sports person, when you are 39 years old, your body is not holding up together like it did back in your 20's, meaning that every punch has a lasting affect more than usual.

Couldn't agree more on this one. The Filipino Flash Donaire should retire after this, he should realized that not all 'aged' boxers can still fight the youngins. I've watched  the very short fight, and I can tell that Donaire wasn't really for Inoue. He's too flashy for Donaire. Donaire on the otherhand can enter another profession in line with boxing. Maybe a coach or trainer would do.

[Oasisman]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now and I will say that it could be more exciting than Donaire fight as Casimero could go beyond round two and who knows, maybe put Inoue in trouble if ever they fight. But it is not going to happen at bantamweight. If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

Man, I can tell Inoue is a complete fighter already in this stage of his career. He has the speed, power, agility, and most importantly the boxing IQ. It feels like he was born and destined to be that good in boxing.
I don't think Casimero could beat him easily. However, for the boxing fans we all are excited on what Casimero could bring in the table as he always have something to say about Inoue every after his (Inoue) victory.
Well, I understand that's part of the preparations to hype up the match.

[Kemarit]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now and I will say that it could be more exciting than Donaire fight as Casimero could go beyond round two and who knows, maybe put Inoue in trouble if ever they fight. But it is not going to happen at bantamweight. If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

Man, I can tell Inoue is a complete fighter already in this stage of his career. He has the speed, power, agility, and most importantly the boxing IQ. It feels like he was born and destined to be that good in boxing.
I don't think Casimero could beat him easily. However, for the boxing fans we all are excited on what Casimero could bring in the table as he always have something to say about Inoue every after his (Inoue) victory.
Well, I understand that's part of the preparations to hype up the match.

Yes, at this stage, Inoue is really developing to be a very good boxer and he is almost complete right now.And I would say that the power has grown as well. We don't know if it can be teach, but maybe he has a talent and his team developed him to be the monster that we all know him right. Yes, I think Inoue will still be interested on Casimero just to knock him out and shut his mouth for good, LOL.

[blockman]

Couldn't agree more on this one. The Filipino Flash Donaire should retire after this, he should realized that not all 'aged' boxers can still fight the youngins. I've watched  the very short fight, and I can tell that Donaire wasn't really for Inoue. He's too flashy for Donaire. Donaire on the otherhand can enter another profession in line with boxing. Maybe a coach or trainer would do.

In terms of aged boxers, there's only one that I know of that can still fight decently and that's Manny Pacquiao and we all knew that. But no need to compare these two, they're great boxers and already legends. It's better for Donaire to put himself into the activity that will make him a coach, he can teach his moves to his student and I think he's already into that plan. For now, he just need to enjoy this retirement and rest after his loss to move on.

[ultrloa]

I've come to realize that too, it's better if he hadn't a rematch but that's it. Things were already done and I'm sure that there's no regret on him, Inoue is just better and nothing else with that. Donaire will realize that he's got a better passion to make and maybe he can go with coaching and training the new and aspiring fighters that shall rise under his flag. I'm assuming that he's just waiting for a great counter punch but it didn't happened, Inoue's aggressiveness got him with those punches that has entered on him.

The rematch with Naoya Inoue is the best match he can get. There's no other way since he already holds a BantamWeight title and to unify it, obviously, he needs to challenge those other boxers who hold the other bantamweight title. A title defense is not even an option for Donaire as he is catching the age already. He needs to get it done while his body is still cooperating with him. Unfortunately, that dream to become an undisputed champion in Bantamweight won't happen anymore.

Actually, Nonito Donaire can still fight even at his age and can destroy other boxers in their division. Naoya Inoue is just too strong for him. Either way, still a wonderful career for Donaire. If he will continue fighting or not, I will support his decision.

He can still fight but also its good to retire and enjoy his life outside the ring while he is healthy. 39 of age is not young anymore as a fighter and he might face another loses if he face another fighter which is young still at his prime. Its just this fight between Inoue is a deciding factor for him to consider retirement because he's time is done and its time to move on now.

With the outcome of the fight, we don't want Donaire to take anymore punishment as it might affect his health in the future. He is already 40 years old, so better to enjoy his life outside of boxing. He has a beautiful wife and 2 lovely kids (if I'm not mistaken), and for sure he has invested the money he earn from boxing. Not sure who win amongst us, as majority goes to Donaire for an upset win.

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Seeing how Donaire beaten up badly by Inoue and the damage to his face for only round 2 of this match we can say that its really enough for him to take some matches in future. He's good already with the legacy he left on the boxing industry and for sure he will be remember as a legend, so its nonsense for him to take a match in future because he might be in bad place if he get unfortunate punch to his opponent. He should enjoy his life outside and I believe his earning in boxing is fully enough for them to have a comfortable life.

[freedomgo]

Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

Every boxer does have their own ego whether they do hang up their gloves after a win or not and it would be depending on them but at the age of 39 then it isnt really that bad to consider on hanging up his gloves or

simply retire.The old donaire we used to knows cant already be seen from fast jabs and good footwork but we havent see this on this fight.If you do look closely or trying out to compare both physique then

he is much smaller in appearance than Inoue..I dont know if he lose weight too much yet im not get used to into those kind of body form of Donaire but well thats not a reason.

Well, he is turning 40 this November so he should really start considering hanging his gloves because judging from the last fight, he is not the Filipino Flash that we used to know anymore. His versatility and speed including the rate of his punches have already changed, he even admits that he is having a hard time at the fight because he can't follow Inoue's punches and the next thing he knows is that the punches were already landed at his temple. Nonetheless, we can see how dedicated he is to the fight as he even tried to have some other fights before he decides to chase the rematch but all of that was wasted because the gap is really evident.

[Kelvinid]

Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

Every boxer does have their own ego whether they do hang up their gloves after a win or not and it would be depending on them but at the age of 39 then it isnt really that bad to consider on hanging up his gloves or

simply retire.The old donaire we used to knows cant already be seen from fast jabs and good footwork but we havent see this on this fight.If you do look closely or trying out to compare both physique then

he is much smaller in appearance than Inoue..I dont know if he lose weight too much yet im not get used to into those kind of body form of Donaire but well thats not a reason.

Well, he is turning 40 this November so he should really start considering hanging his gloves because judging from the last fight, he is not the Filipino Flash that we used to know anymore. His versatility and speed including the rate of his punches have already changed, he even admits that he is having a hard time at the fight because he can't follow Inoue's punches and the next thing he knows is that the punches were already landed at his temple. Nonetheless, we can see how dedicated he is to the fight as he even tried to have some other fights before he decides to chase the rematch but all of that was wasted because the gap is really evident.

His father wants him to retire already.

Donaire Sr. wants Jr. to retire after 2nd-round TKO loss to Inoue

I think he should listen to his father already, that's the best advice for him, he already proved himself so he can enjoy the life after boxing.