Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[SamboNZ]

Innoue can counter punch faster with his left as seen in this fight.  He did a lot of left hook, though its blocked, it opens vulnerability of Donaire. When his feet wobbled, you could already see the outcome.

I didn't pay attention to the dates of this match, I didn't even thought their will be a rematch but so it happened and missed betting. But what I noticed is the crowd, Japanese are so behave.

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Are you late in the news? Donaire got demolished by Inoue and because of the performance of Donaire they said it was a scripted fight. I cant blame the watchers since Donaire was like performing that he didnt trained for the fight. He barely threw heavy punches, I guess the early punch to his temple got him and effected everything.

[blockman]

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Disregard that analysis of yours, the match has already ended with a quick glance and only by just two rounds. Everyone saw that Inoue isn't really for Donaire and that's the reality that we have to take. 2 losses for Donaire against Inoue and I'm sure that there won't be any further attempts for a rematch because the outcome is already clear and what we will be expecting. Thus, it's likely that was Donaire's last match as speculations are saying that enough is enough and he's likely to retire.

[Distinctin]

I expect that Inoue will going to win via KO or TKO but I didn’t expect that the match will last to round 2 only. I watch the highlights and see that Donaire is really struggling and gets knocked out in the first round, I already know that he is going to lose via TKO. Inoue is really a strong opponent and we all witnessed it.

Struggling on the first round is the worst thing for Donaire, many are shock for the result of this match but knowing Inoue, this is really possible to happen. Though I put my bet on Donaire, I just think he is done for boxing considering his age and this worst lose agains the mighty Inoue. No more Pinoy boxer that can challenge Inoue as of the moment, since Casimero is also suffering from his own problem. Inoue is still a beast, I wonder if some boxer can beat this guy.

Even Donaire was shocked that he was knocked down in the 1st round because Inoue was also looking to finish the fight much earlier than their 1st fight. And yes, in the 2nd round, Inoue took the effort to knock Donaire again until the referee have stop the fight for good. Donaire have done so much already in the boxing industry and he won't be forgotten because he was once known as the Filipino Flash, it's time to consider some retirement options because he will turn 40 years old this coming November.

[dothebeats]

What happened to that fight is quite boring and rather painful for Donaire. He didn't even last for a few rounds to showcase what he had trained for, and went down so easily after 2 rounds. Well according to the man himself, Inoue landed what Donaire described as the "hardest punch" he has ever been hit, and that says a lot about the raw power of Inoue.

No rematch needed for Donaire to reclaim his glory. This fight, IMO, should be an indication that he should hang the gloves for good.

[arwin100]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

[Saisher]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

I don't see the fight between Inoue and Casimero happening unless the camp of Inoue agreed to it, Inoue is the champion right now so he can choose who he wants to fight, all Casimero can do now is to annoy Inoue and dare him to fight him, he could have a good chance to fight Inoue if he only did not lose his chance to fight Butler and beat him, Donaire can only hope that Inoe will give him a chance to fight him.

[Natalim]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

I don't see the fight between Inoue and Casimero happening unless the camp of Inoue agreed to it, Inoue is the champion right now so he can choose who he wants to fight, all Casimero can do now is to annoy Inoue and dare him to fight him, he could have a good chance to fight Inoue if he only did not lose his chance to fight Butler and beat him, Donaire can only hope that Inoe will give him a chance to fight him.

Inoue will not waste his time fighting Casimero, there's a champion that he can fight and that is Butler, and if he beats Butler, he can be the undisputed champion and maybe he will go up in weight after that, and he will challenge the championsi in the heavier division.

[Kelvinid]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

I don't see the fight between Inoue and Casimero happening unless the camp of Inoue agreed to it, Inoue is the champion right now so he can choose who he wants to fight, all Casimero can do now is to annoy Inoue and dare him to fight him, he could have a good chance to fight Inoue if he only did not lose his chance to fight Butler and beat him, Donaire can only hope that Inoe will give him a chance to fight him.

Inoue will not waste his time fighting Casimero, there's a champion that he can fight and that is Butler, and if he beats Butler, he can be the undisputed champion and maybe he will go up in weight after that, and he will challenge the championsi in the heavier division.

I agree with that, if Inoue did not accept the challenge when Casimero was still a champ, how much more than Casimero now does not have the belt anymore. Casimero has to start earning a reputation in boxing, and that is by challenging a champion, probably not in the bantan weight anymore as he already struggle toreach the required weight.

[passwordnow]

Well, as the other comments in different news about this match said that he's getting old and didn't catch up. It's certainly a good time for him to retire and he has achieved a lot, congratulations Naoya!

Donaire overextend himself he has achieved a lot, it's really time for him to retire but he need not feel ashamed, I'm just surprised that Donaire comes out smoking thinking that he can take out Inoue in the early rounds.
Inoue has nothing to prove in that division he should go up now and conquer another territory, we never know if he can be the next Pacquiao he started in the lightest division maybe in the future he can go to the higher division like what Pacquiao did.

Yes, he doesn't have to feel ashamed. This is boxing and he's brought a lot of honor not just to himself but also to his country. Well, it's a different Donaire that we've seen and it's probably the sign that he's no longer in his prime and has to leave the pro boxing and do something else that's still related to boxing like helping the younger boxers that has the potential and teach them what he has learned and experienced when he's still on his best.

[Fundamentals Of]

What happened to that fight is quite boring and rather painful for Donaire. He didn't even last for a few rounds to showcase what he had trained for, and went down so easily after 2 rounds. Well according to the man himself, Inoue landed what Donaire described as the "hardest punch" he has ever been hit, and that says a lot about the raw power of Inoue.

No rematch needed for Donaire to reclaim his glory. This fight, IMO, should be an indication that he should hang the gloves for good.

It wasn't boring for me. There was an exchange of heavy blows. It was a good fight. It was just that the fight ended so quickly that we haven't really enjoyed the fight that much. Donaire just couldn't absorb the strong head blows from the monster. Actually I think that if not for the bell in the first round, Donaire wouldn't have survived from that first knockdown. For sure Inoue will rain on him with very hard punches. Donaire was lucky he was saved by the bell. But what I noticed with Donaire though is that he doesn't clinch. It was needed for him when he was hurt.

[Japinat]

What happened to that fight is quite boring and rather painful for Donaire. He didn't even last for a few rounds to showcase what he had trained for, and went down so easily after 2 rounds. Well according to the man himself, Inoue landed what Donaire described as the "hardest punch" he has ever been hit, and that says a lot about the raw power of Inoue.

No rematch needed for Donaire to reclaim his glory. This fight, IMO, should be an indication that he should hang the gloves for good.

It wasn't boring for me. There was an exchange of heavy blows. It was a good fight. It was just that the fight ended so quickly that we haven't really enjoyed the fight that much. Donaire just couldn't absorb the strong head blows from the monster. Actually I think that if not for the bell in the first round, Donaire wouldn't have survived from that first knockdown. For sure Inoue will rain on him with very hard punches. Donaire was lucky he was saved by the bell. But what I noticed with Donaire though is that he doesn't clinch. It was needed for him when he was hurt.

Donaire admitted in the post-fight interview that he made a mistake, he goes toe to toe with Inoue but it was not actually the game plan. Bad move for him, and he suffered a bad defeat, anyway, if he would still want to fight he can still fight for sure, but not against Inoue as he cannot beat the monster.

no news yet if he would retire or not, but hopefully he will do the right thing which is to retire.

[Maslate]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

Of course I understand that, there's a low probability that Inoue will fight Casimero unless he wants to give him a lesson. Casimero is good but I think he is not as good as Inoue, but still, we want to see a great challenger to test Inoue. Maybe if Inoue will not give Casimero a chance, how about a non championship fight for Casimero vs Donaire, I think that will also attract a crowd.

[Jawhead999]

how about a non championship fight for Casimero vs Donaire, I think that will also attract a crowd.

Many of fans interested with a fight because they're support their boxer nation, in this case it will be both Filipinos fight each other, obviously they wouldn't interested with this kind match. I think Donaire should retire now, he's already old and should know his limit.

Inoue will not waste his time fighting Casimero, there's a champion that he can fight and that is Butler, and if he beats Butler, he can be the undisputed champion and maybe he will go up in weight after that, and he will challenge the championsi in the heavier division.

If the fight will be happen Inoue vs Butler, I'd say Inoue will won via KO again since Butler is weaker than Donaire. Honestly I'm surprised Donaire loss via KO on the second round, I thought he will loss above 9 rounds via KO or UD.

[arwin100]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

I don't see the fight between Inoue and Casimero happening unless the camp of Inoue agreed to it, Inoue is the champion right now so he can choose who he wants to fight, all Casimero can do now is to annoy Inoue and dare him to fight him, he could have a good chance to fight Inoue if he only did not lose his chance to fight Butler and beat him, Donaire can only hope that Inoe will give him a chance to fight him.

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

[LUCKMCFLY]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

I don't see the fight between Inoue and Casimero happening unless the camp of Inoue agreed to it, Inoue is the champion right now so he can choose who he wants to fight, all Casimero can do now is to annoy Inoue and dare him to fight him, he could have a good chance to fight Inoue if he only did not lose his chance to fight Butler and beat him, Donaire can only hope that Inoe will give him a chance to fight him.

Inoue will not waste his time fighting Casimero, there's a champion that he can fight and that is Butler, and if he beats Butler, he can be the undisputed champion and maybe he will go up in weight after that, and he will challenge the championsi in the heavier division.

I agree with that, if Inoue did not accept the challenge when Casimero was still a champ, how much more than Casimero now does not have the belt anymore. Casimero has to start earning a reputation in boxing, and that is by challenging a champion, probably not in the bantan weight anymore as he already struggle toreach the required weight.

I think that Casimero will not be able to do much against Donaire, the truth is that I was very disappointed in Donaire's performance against Inoue, I even dare to think that Inoue is on another level and his strength is far superior to that of the others, for my mushroom fight What may happen against Buttler will not have much success, in fact before he lost Donaire he should have fought Buttler, and if he does win the fight against Buttler it would be a paradise for all bets and bettors.

If all goes well it is possible that he can fight Buttler, but with Inoue he is likely to knock him out.

[freedomgo]

Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

[acroman08]

If only Casimero was not stripped of his belt, he could be a great match with Inoue.

yeah, sadly no one can really blame anyone other than him and his team for that incident. If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue I am sure he can get enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero has a lot of potential to become one of the best, I just hope he won't waste it and get too discouraged by what happened to his supposed fight with Butler.

Inoue cannot get anything with Casimero right now and its like high risk low reward if he push to fight with him that's why I think this fight between them will never happen, Casimero lost his WBO which is the only ticket to have match with Inoue. The hot target with Inoue right now is Paul butler and if he win he became the undisputed champion. But let see what will happen next if Inoue would fight Butler or he will climb higher.

like I said, Casimero will need enough fights and wins to be considered as a challenger for Inoue. Casimero will need to build his record again and prove to Inoue that he is a worthy fighter for him. I don't expect Inoue to accept a challenge from Casimero right now and I don't expect Casimero to ask for a fight with Inoue at moment too, especially on what happened to his mandatory fight with Butler.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

I have a feeling that he is considering it(I am just assuming). this fight is a huge loss for him and we all saw how strong Inoue is. also, there is no shameoin retiring.

[dunfida]

Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

Every boxer does have their own ego whether they do hang up their gloves after a win or not and it would be depending on them but at the age of 39 then it isnt really that bad to consider on hanging up his gloves or

simply retire.The old donaire we used to knows cant already be seen from fast jabs and good footwork but we havent see this on this fight.If you do look closely or trying out to compare both physique then

he is much smaller in appearance than Inoue..I dont know if he lose weight too much yet im not get used to into those kind of body form of Donaire but well thats not a reason.

[Lanatsa]

Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

Every boxer does have their own ego whether they do hang up their gloves after a win or not and it would be depending on them but at the age of 39 then it isnt really that bad to consider on hanging up his gloves or

simply retire.The old donaire we used to knows cant already be seen from fast jabs and good footwork but we havent see this on this fight.If you do look closely or trying out to compare both physique then

he is much smaller in appearance than Inoue..I dont know if he lose weight too much yet im not get used to into those kind of body form of Donaire but well thats not a reason.

Based up on this link
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Donaire, the Filipino four-division champion, weighed in at 53.4 kg (117.7 lbs), while Inoue, the Japanese knockout artist, weighed in at 53.5 kg (117.9 lbs).

So in terms of weight then its almost the same, so i dont see any relevance on having excuse of their weights.It is really just
the body of Donaire is bit slimmer compared into their first fight.

[milewilda]

Naoya is too precise for Donaire. If you can slow mo that first knockout, Naoya had quicky decide to throw right while Donaire was about to swing too. He was about to throw left but seeing Donaire about to swing right, he shift to throw right hitting Donaires jaw.

If I was in such position, I couldnt hardly see whats coming but use my takedown defense like Khamzat lol. Yep time to hang gloves.

Inoue is just too good on technicality plus really having that speed which it is something that cant really be predicted.He did make out some switches and made out some good decision
on what punches should be thrown and speaking of counters then there's no doubt that this kid does really have  that speed and power.Yes, and just like other people been saying
for this fight which is too fast paced.No one really expected that considering that their first fight did last off 12 rounds but this one is too short.
Agree on that hanging out that gloves should be next. 

Donaire takes a huge risk and pays the price he chases Inoue the whole first round until he was caught with a big punch and he cannot recover and took a beating in the second round, not a good way to hang up his gloves, I guess he is thinking of getting a few more fights from underrated fighters before hanging up the gloves, but it's really time for him to go he has done a lot being a champion at his age is already a big achievement.

Perhaps that was his strategy, chase Inoue early and make him very uncomfortable early and then counter him. But as you have said, speed kills and that's what happen him as Donaire was caught trying to counter and he wasn't able to recover in time. So maybe he will be thinking of retiring after this devastating lost and accept that it's time to hang up his gloves and say it a night because he had one of the best career for a Filipino, second only to Manny Pacquiao.

And here it goes on which Donaire did really make that kind of move where he's trying to control the pace which he do aggressive moves forward but he do lacks punches i should say and on the time that Inoue made out some move then he wasnt able to block those 1-2 combinations even though its not really that much but the impact and solid punching does the work.He wobbled and knock down
on last few seconds of 1st round and then on 2nd he do able to get those barrage of solid punches from Inoue which the reason the ref completely stop the fight.
You could even tell that Donaire is no longer on his prime obviously.