ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[execijutiere]

In the opening matches of Group B at the eSports World Cup, we can say that the Falcons will face off against K27. The Falcons will easily come out on top against their opponent. They’ve become a strong team and are in top form. I don’t think they’ll make any mistakes in the Upper Bracket.
We can also say that FaZe is on the rise. BetBoom could be a tough opponent for them, but FaZe has become a re-formed team, and we can say that they’ve gelled well in their recent matches. I think FaZe will come out on top in this match, even if it’s a tough one.

[passwordnow]

They're already living like king with that salary but still did to sell their matches. Man, even million dollars athletes are falling for it so, how much more of these when they're driven by greed. Contentment is key, other pro players just want to play competitively, get salary and win tournaments. These boys want to win even the bookies lol.

He probably thought he could get away with a sneaky throw since it's at the highest level of competition, but sometimes it's these small things that can backfire like crazy.

The issue about 322 has been years and the community is even more active these days and it's easier to determine if someone has been oddly playing or just simply having a bad day. We recognize if the game is hard and he's not playing well at all depending on the look of the game. But with how he played, there's an obvious intention to let his hero dead, like that one in mid against Rune Eaters I think when he played ember.

We get the idea of those 322 players.

TAIga
TAIlung

Who's the next TAI?

I've read that Team Liquid is also trying to get him if ever one of their core is about to retire but, it seems good riddance for them when this happened.

I saw this post too, Liquid's coach said they're eyeing him if Nisha steps down from their roster. He could've been playing under the Liquid squad in the future, but unfortunately he dug his own grave.

What a missed opportunity, a life changing opportunity and a well established org. 
A child prodigy that I admire when he's stepping up with that beastmaster but now gone in the scene too easy.

[T1HGO]

Watching Topson compete is always hype as hell. However, i think he's not the best option available. I think Quinn would be the best replacement LGD could get right now.

Quinn has no longer that crave for competition and I guess that exhaustion from their bootcamp and tournament chasing has caused him into that form. But it's a great idea that if he's back, there are a lot of teams lately that needs a good mid. AFAIK, the first person that LGD contacted was somnus, no need for visa issues since he's a chinese and they know him well. But surprisingly, they got topson which is not a bad choice but let's see if some good come back for topson. He's now the epitome of direct TI invite.

Apparently it was TaiLung's own team who reported him. Good on them. And according to KJ's post, everyone knows what's going on in the South American scene. I knew for awhile what's going on, when teams are willing to matchfix in TI qualifiers, but it's even worse than what i knew. I knew 90% of the region was matchfixing but i never imagined players like Darkmago or Tailung with salaries ranging between 10k-20k PAID IN USD, which allows people living in Peru to live like a fucking king, would be still matchfixing. Insane.

They're already living like king with that salary but still did to sell their matches. Man, even million dollars athletes are falling for it so, how much more of these when they're driven by greed. Contentment is key, other pro players just want to play competitively, get salary and win tournaments. These boys want to win even the bookies lol.

Quinn has said in multiple occasions that he would accept playing competitively as a standin. He said he any top team asked him, he would accept. Quinn is still in his prime to this day, being rank 40ish still. He's definitely in better shape than Topson, who retired 3 years ago. Not to mention Quinn has a much better grasp of meta and is a very vocal player. And honestly, given how he retired without being able to compete at TI last year because of that Gaimin Gladiators situation, it would be kind of like poetic justice.

The issue about 322 has been years and the community is even more active these days and it's easier to determine if someone has been oddly playing or just simply having a bad day. We recognize if the game is hard and he's not playing well at all depending on the look of the game. But with how he played, there's an obvious intention to let his hero dead, like that one in mid against Rune Eaters I think when he played ember.

We get the idea of those 322 players.

TAIga
TAIlung

Who's the next TAI?

You know, i watched that game live, and i saw that exact ember play live. And i found it very suspicious, but i thought he was just playing bad or something. But it wasn't just that play that stood out, his whole tournament both GOTF and 1win tournament he had very suspicious games.

I think people are severly overestimating TaiLung's current capabilities. Yes he had alot of potential, since he's very young, but calling him the next Sumail or the next Nisha is a big big stretch. I've seen him throw unthrowable games from big leads, now wether he was already matchfixing or it was a skill issue, i don't know. But throwing games as Beastmaster or Viper was extremely common for him. He does very well in the laning stage but he would throw pretty hard on non-scalling heroes. To be fair on him, Beastmaster, Viper or Huskar, are those kind of heroes. You die once, your lead is gone. Typical piñata heroes.

[Pumared]

I was watching the EWC matchups. Vitality will have some promising teams and could fall early on. Furia, on the other hand, could face Pain or 9z in great form. I'd bet that Furia might not make it past the group stage. And Mouz is the favorite, at least without having played yet. What do you think? Will you bet on anything?

[passwordnow]

Quinn has said in multiple occasions that he would accept playing competitively as a standin. He said he any top team asked him, he would accept. Quinn is still in his prime to this day, being rank 40ish still. He's definitely in better shape than Topson, who retired 3 years ago. Not to mention Quinn has a much better grasp of meta and is a very vocal player. And honestly, given how he retired without being able to compete at TI last year because of that Gaimin Gladiators situation, it would be kind of like poetic justice.

I've missed that then, it means that he's still willing to go back to the scene. I think that there's still fire in him and he knows that he can beat the arses of everyone in the mid and there's no doubt about it. I want to see him then again in the next season go back to pro.

You know, i watched that game live, and i saw that exact ember play live. And i found it very suspicious, but i thought he was just playing bad or something. But it wasn't just that play that stood out, his whole tournament both GOTF and 1win tournament he had very suspicious games.

I think people are severly overestimating TaiLung's current capabilities. Yes he had alot of potential, since he's very young, but calling him the next Sumail or the next Nisha is a big big stretch. I've seen him throw unthrowable games from big leads, now wether he was already matchfixing or it was a skill issue, i don't know. But throwing games as Beastmaster or Viper was extremely common for him. He does very well in the laning stage but he would throw pretty hard on non-scalling heroes. To be fair on him, Beastmaster, Viper or Huskar, are those kind of heroes. You die once, your lead is gone. Typical piñata heroes.

I've watched other teams mostly in those two tournaments but once a player starts to play suspiciously, it will be caught 100%. I am amazed of this kid but I have no comparison to any other players. I think that blitz just seen him with the potential if ever nisha wants to retire after. I'm glad that you've noticed his playstyle that they're having a hard time to close a game even if they're already in the lead or it might have been that the 322 was already there long time ago?

[T1HGO]

Quinn has said in multiple occasions that he would accept playing competitively as a standin. He said he any top team asked him, he would accept. Quinn is still in his prime to this day, being rank 40ish still. He's definitely in better shape than Topson, who retired 3 years ago. Not to mention Quinn has a much better grasp of meta and is a very vocal player. And honestly, given how he retired without being able to compete at TI last year because of that Gaimin Gladiators situation, it would be kind of like poetic justice.

I've missed that then, it means that he's still willing to go back to the scene. I think that there's still fire in him and he knows that he can beat the arses of everyone in the mid and there's no doubt about it. I want to see him then again in the next season go back to pro.

You know, i watched that game live, and i saw that exact ember play live. And i found it very suspicious, but i thought he was just playing bad or something. But it wasn't just that play that stood out, his whole tournament both GOTF and 1win tournament he had very suspicious games.

I think people are severly overestimating TaiLung's current capabilities. Yes he had alot of potential, since he's very young, but calling him the next Sumail or the next Nisha is a big big stretch. I've seen him throw unthrowable games from big leads, now wether he was already matchfixing or it was a skill issue, i don't know. But throwing games as Beastmaster or Viper was extremely common for him. He does very well in the laning stage but he would throw pretty hard on non-scalling heroes. To be fair on him, Beastmaster, Viper or Huskar, are those kind of heroes. You die once, your lead is gone. Typical piñata heroes.

I've watched other teams mostly in those two tournaments but once a player starts to play suspiciously, it will be caught 100%. I am amazed of this kid but I have no comparison to any other players. I think that blitz just seen him with the potential if ever nisha wants to retire after. I'm glad that you've noticed his playstyle that they're having a hard time to close a game even if they're already in the lead or it might have been that the 322 was already there long time ago?

Quinn is absolutely not coming back to pro Dota. He said he would only do it in the condition of being a standin only. Both Quinn and Insania said that being forced to play pubs to stay in shape is unbearable for them and that if they didn't have to grind pubs, they would absolutely continue playing pro. They are done and not coming back. Only as a standin. For what Quinn said, he refused because he felt bad ditching last minute, since's he will be doing talentwork at TI.


I did notice very suspicious plays from TaiLung, but only in Games of the future tournament. It was blatantly obvious. But from what i saw, he's been doing it way before he was signed by Heroic/LGD. He's pretty much doing it during his whole career, and kept doing it after being signed by Heroic/LGD. Kid is was rotten from the start, and like him is 90% of the South American scene. Like i said a month and half ago, i know from a very secure source, only 2 teams in TI qualifier were NOT matchfixing. Only 2. I had access to the matches script. It had 100% accuracy, literally did not miss one single time. Ranging from finish a match under 35 minutes or over X ammount of kills or just map winner. At first, i was too stubborn to believe it was that rotten, and i even bet against the script, thinking the guy was just bullshitting me, until the accuracy rate was too insanely good to deny what was going on. The whole South American scene is under the thumb of the Chinese mafia. Accuratly predicting every single match from X-minute, X-kills or X-winner in matches isn't luck or skill.


Astini made a post about Tailung's matchfixing activities. I will leave the link for his investigation and his quote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kk7YUPN65qXbWoIMJ5Q4OKDK2l9kkDrUgz4QwYFW67o/edit?tab=t.0

Astini:

My last post about the case and lets enjoy some TI.

Here is all the info that can be publicly checked and tracked on the Tailung matchfixing case. Maybe can help someone get to the guy that is organizing all of this.

There was more info on my report. But is removed because has private info of the ongoing investigations of ESIC/EWC.

To make clear, this info on this file alone does not prove anything. Just together with private info. But this can make you come close to a 99,99% conclusion by yourself. I was way more involved in this than I wish I ever was... but the information came from a close friend, Brazilian league of legends former pro that tracks polymarket and I had the moral obligation to pass it forward.

Than I learned KJ wasnt gonna play TI, because he didnt wanna play with matchfixer in his team, and they were struggling to get the 100% confirmation. Which made me more involved, because imagine you see a good friend of yours miss the most important tournament of his life because someone is matchfixing on his team and will do again on TI if not banned...

I hope this is enough info to stop the defenders which think he is being frammed on a "edited printscreen".

Its someone doing matchfixing for 2 years and fucking all the teams he passed by.

There is a shitload of proofs that cannot be shared, and some that are shared here.

[execijutiere]

It’s hard to predict who will win the match between GamerLegion and Luminosity. Of course, when we look at both teams’ recent matches, they’ve both had their share of losses. GamerLegion, in particular, hasn’t won in a long time, and frankly, I think it’s due to the IGL. I have to say that Snax isn’t cutting it, and GamerLegion needs to bring in a good IGL. Players like Snax should step away from the scene—he’s a Major winner, of course—but I attribute GamerLegion’s current slump entirely to him.

[rdbase]

It’s hard to predict who will win the match between GamerLegion and Luminosity. Of course, when we look at both teams’ recent matches, they’ve both had their share of losses. GamerLegion, in particular, hasn’t won in a long time, and frankly, I think it’s due to the IGL. I have to say that Snax isn’t cutting it, and GamerLegion needs to bring in a good IGL. Players like Snax should step away from the scene—he’s a Major winner, of course—but I attribute GamerLegion’s current slump entirely to him.

Now that you mention it GamerLegion hasn't made it to a major in quite awhile so a change is definitely in need at this point if they want to keep competitive enough to play top tier CS2. Usually they look at their coach when a team sees something is not clicking, but the next in line is the IGL. So I agree they might make go this route so to improve their squad from within.

Team Falcons are playing the Russian team K27 and have taken the first map with some pistol trickshots from m0nesy. They are looking good out the gate so expect them to win to move on in the EWC next stage.
Really looking forward to seeing Faze vs BetBoom match right after Parivision vs B8.

[Pumared]

It’s hard to predict who will win the match between GamerLegion and Luminosity. Of course, when we look at both teams’ recent matches, they’ve both had their share of losses. GamerLegion, in particular, hasn’t won in a long time, and frankly, I think it’s due to the IGL. I have to say that Snax isn’t cutting it, and GamerLegion needs to bring in a good IGL. Players like Snax should step away from the scene—he’s a Major winner, of course—but I attribute GamerLegion’s current slump entirely to him.

Now that you mention it GamerLegion hasn't made it to a major in quite awhile so a change is definitely in need at this point if they want to keep competitive enough to play top tier CS2. Usually they look at their coach when a team sees something is not clicking, but the next in line is the IGL. So I agree they might make go this route so to improve their squad from within.

Team Falcons are playing the Russian team K27 and have taken the first map with some pistol trickshots from m0nesy. They are looking good out the gate so expect them to win to move on in the EWC next stage.
Really looking forward to seeing Faze vs BetBoom match right after Parivision vs B8.

I'm seeing some results. Spriti simply lost to a team I've never heard of: JiJieHao, and there isn't a single player I can remember who's well-known.

I think so far they've been the biggest surprise of the tournament; there are still other teams to play. I saw that FaZe's game is tied 9-9 with BetBoom; I believe FaZe can win.

[execijutiere]

GamerLegion surprised me with a great match and managed to comfortably defeat their opponent, Luminosity. Luminosity’s top fragger was IGL lux. Flamus and REZ’s strong play made the team’s victory even easier.
Aurora suffered a loss against BIG. To be honest, I wasn’t expecting this, but it was clear this match would be a tough one for Aurora. In my opinion, Kyxsan isn’t a good IGL, and we’d already seen that with the Falcons. With a roster like the Falcons’, he should have been leading the team from one victory to the next.

[passwordnow]

Quinn is absolutely not coming back to pro Dota. He said he would only do it in the condition of being a standin only. Both Quinn and Insania said that being forced to play pubs to stay in shape is unbearable for them and that if they didn't have to grind pubs, they would absolutely continue playing pro. They are done and not coming back. Only as a standin. For what Quinn said, he refused because he felt bad ditching last minute, since's he will be doing talentwork at TI.

That's a requirement being in an org, I think at least 5 to 10 pub games per day is a requirement and to stay in shape competitively. I can't even play more than 5 anymore, let alone 10. 3 games of losing streak and I can't even have a good sleep loool. The main reason why quinn has retired is about the exhaustion and I can feel him in that.

I did notice very suspicious plays from TaiLung, but only in Games of the future tournament. It was blatantly obvious. But from what i saw, he's been doing it way before he was signed by Heroic/LGD. He's pretty much doing it during his whole career, and kept doing it after being signed by Heroic/LGD. Kid is was rotten from the start, and like him is 90% of the South American scene. Like i said a month and half ago, i know from a very secure source, only 2 teams in TI qualifier were NOT matchfixing. Only 2. I had access to the matches script. It had 100% accuracy, literally did not miss one single time. Ranging from finish a match under 35 minutes or over X ammount of kills or just map winner. At first, i was too stubborn to believe it was that rotten, and i even bet against the script, thinking the guy was just bullshitting me, until the accuracy rate was too insanely good to deny what was going on. The whole South American scene is under the thumb of the Chinese mafia. Accuratly predicting every single match from X-minute, X-kills or X-winner in matches isn't luck or skill.

Man, that's some serious expose' there. And it's just sad that tailung has been doing it for so long, he's a such wasted talent. So it comes along with the 322 from the china region goes to South America. EU remains to be the most competitive, I thought that these teams in SA will bring glory to their region but 322 ended it earlier than expected.

Astini made a post about Tailung's matchfixing activities. I will leave the link for his investigation and his quote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kk7YUPN65qXbWoIMJ5Q4OKDK2l9kkDrUgz4QwYFW67o/edit?tab=t.0

I'd believe astini, he's from the region.

[T1HGO]

Quinn is absolutely not coming back to pro Dota. He said he would only do it in the condition of being a standin only. Both Quinn and Insania said that being forced to play pubs to stay in shape is unbearable for them and that if they didn't have to grind pubs, they would absolutely continue playing pro. They are done and not coming back. Only as a standin. For what Quinn said, he refused because he felt bad ditching last minute, since's he will be doing talentwork at TI.

That's a requirement being in an org, I think at least 5 to 10 pub games per day is a requirement and to stay in shape competitively. I can't even play more than 5 anymore, let alone 10. 3 games of losing streak and I can't even have a good sleep loool. The main reason why quinn has retired is about the exhaustion and I can feel him in that.

I did notice very suspicious plays from TaiLung, but only in Games of the future tournament. It was blatantly obvious. But from what i saw, he's been doing it way before he was signed by Heroic/LGD. He's pretty much doing it during his whole career, and kept doing it after being signed by Heroic/LGD. Kid is was rotten from the start, and like him is 90% of the South American scene. Like i said a month and half ago, i know from a very secure source, only 2 teams in TI qualifier were NOT matchfixing. Only 2. I had access to the matches script. It had 100% accuracy, literally did not miss one single time. Ranging from finish a match under 35 minutes or over X ammount of kills or just map winner. At first, i was too stubborn to believe it was that rotten, and i even bet against the script, thinking the guy was just bullshitting me, until the accuracy rate was too insanely good to deny what was going on. The whole South American scene is under the thumb of the Chinese mafia. Accuratly predicting every single match from X-minute, X-kills or X-winner in matches isn't luck or skill.

Man, that's some serious expose' there. And it's just sad that tailung has been doing it for so long, he's a such wasted talent. So it comes along with the 322 from the china region goes to South America. EU remains to be the most competitive, I thought that these teams in SA will bring glory to their region but 322 ended it earlier than expected.

Astini made a post about Tailung's matchfixing activities. I will leave the link for his investigation and his quote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kk7YUPN65qXbWoIMJ5Q4OKDK2l9kkDrUgz4QwYFW67o/edit?tab=t.0

I'd believe astini, he's from the region.

I don't think playing pubs is an org requirement. There are some pro's in the scene that don't play pubs, for example Sumail, Nisha/m1cke/Boxi also very rarely plays pubs, and Kuroky when he was active also famously didn't play pubs. It's more of a matter of if you show up, and can perform, that's ok.

I used to play like 6/7(nomemeintented) pubs a day everyday, but it takes a toll on my mental. The more you climb up the ranks the worse it is. I have been gravitating between Low Immortal/Divine 5 for years now. It's fun when you can solo carry games by skill diffing opponents, but when the games become evenly skill matches, it becomes RNG on the teammates you get, and how much you can carry their weight. I literally had a punching bag nearby so i could punch something after games. And the teammates don't even necessarily have to be toxic, most of the time, they are retards thinking they discovered the new meta at fucking 6k mmr. In just 4 matches yesterday, i had an mid IO, offlane Wraith King, and pos4 Magnus. Unplayable games, lost on draft. When your mid IO goes 2-12, you're held hostage for 40 minutes trying to win an unwinnable game. Now imagine this is your job, and you're forced to deal with these people 8 hours a day every day. Sure, there are way worse jobs. But being a Dota pro is not easy.


There's a lot of matchfix going on in SEA and China, but at least those have the courtesy to do it in their shit tournaments, like lunar horse, or any tournament organized by CringeStation. These tournaments rarely appear in mainstream bookies, just the asian ones. And i'm okay with them matchfixing in those tournaments. Just don't do it in fucking TI quals or EWC mainstage or anything that actually matters. There is also matchfixing going on in EU, like EPL. And to be honest, i don't really care. I don't bet in those tournaments, and i don't care who wins it. But matchfix in EU/CIS is much less than the rest of the regions.

[T1HGO]

The International 2026 has officially started. This is my Christmas! I don't really care for any holiday season, but to me TI is like Christmas!

Long Live Dota 2!

[goodpunt]

I see the CS World Cup already started but the matches are only 1 map.
Don't want to get involved in such short and volatile matches and will wait for best of three.
But very surprised to see that Spirit lost against JiJieHao at very low odds....could have been an opportunity for me like "Captain Hindsight" just told me

[demonica]

I see the CS World Cup already started but the matches are only 1 map.
Don't want to get involved in such short and volatile matches and will wait for best of three.
But very surprised to see that Spirit lost against JiJieHao at very low odds....could have been an opportunity for me like "Captain Hindsight" just told me

I didn't see it coming as well, and it's a good thing that I went with my instinct to avoid adding Team spirit on my parlay cause the lowest odds always ruin it. And the only one remaining on my parlay is the Aurora vs M80, which I bet on Aurora and I’m confident that they can win this game.


About the LCK game today, who are your bets between Gen G vs HLE?
It looks like that it’ll be a great game and I am expecting it will have Game 3. I bet with Gen G even though I have some worries since their last game on Kespa cup, they didn’t showed a great play. Even my friend was shocked that they got defeated by DNS with 0-2 scores

[hedgeh0g]

Well, the Dota 2 international has arrived, and I'm very glad that Dota's ancestor is back in business. Finally, there will be these exciting streams, and we will watch the matches and cheer for the favorite teams as well as for the teams from our countries. It's going to be forgotten, and I always worry when I watch the guys from my country try to prove that they deserve to continue on the path to aegis. I've already done all the predictions, looking at how topson put it, and I want to make sure that this guy is right in his predictions and forecasts. I haven't had time to watch any matches yet, but my friends say that he himself shows excellent results in the game.

[execijutiere]

NaVi didn’t make any mistakes against 3DMAX and managed to win the match. We can say that everyone on NaVi performed at the same level. There isn’t much to say about this match. Wonderful also put on a very good performance. Maka’s performance wasn’t enough to win the match.
FURIA managed to win against Wildcard on Inferno. FURIA played well as a team and are truly strong as a unit. Wildcard didn’t play badly, but given the obvious difference in skill level, their loss was to be expected.

[Zadicar]

Well, the Dota 2 international has arrived, and I'm very glad that Dota's ancestor is back in business. Finally, there will be these exciting streams, and we will watch the matches and cheer for the favorite teams as well as for the teams from our countries. It's going to be forgotten, and I always worry when I watch the guys from my country try to prove that they deserve to continue on the path to aegis. I've already done all the predictions, looking at how topson put it, and I want to make sure that this guy is right in his predictions and forecasts. I haven't had time to watch any matches yet, but my friends say that he himself shows excellent results in the game.

As a Dota2 player/gamer then this is always been the most anticipated tournament compared to Majors but of course it would be best if they would be also bringing back the battle pass. Now they are still on groupstage. I've been rooting for OG but it seems that they have a bad start up beaten up with Nigma Galaxy and if they would be having that another 2 loses then it would  say byebye to them or early airport. 

BB,Falcons and Team Vision are on the top but these are already anticipated but well, upper bracket isnt that much important. Whom you do think is the darkhorse of this TI?

[hedgeh0g]

Well, the Dota 2 international has arrived, and I'm very glad that Dota's ancestor is back in business. Finally, there will be these exciting streams, and we will watch the matches and cheer for the favorite teams as well as for the teams from our countries. It's going to be forgotten, and I always worry when I watch the guys from my country try to prove that they deserve to continue on the path to aegis. I've already done all the predictions, looking at how topson put it, and I want to make sure that this guy is right in his predictions and forecasts. I haven't had time to watch any matches yet, but my friends say that he himself shows excellent results in the game.

As a Dota2 player/gamer then this is always been the most anticipated tournament compared to Majors but of course it would be best if they would be also bringing back the battle pass. Now they are still on groupstage. I've been rooting for OG but it seems that they have a bad start up beaten up with Nigma Galaxy and if they would be having that another 2 loses then it would  say byebye to them or early airport. 

BB,Falcons and Team Vision are on the top but these are already anticipated but well, upper bracket isnt that much important. Whom you do think is the darkhorse of this TI?

I haven't even had time to study the full list of teams participating in the qualifiers yet, but the only thing I've seen is that my favorites, Team Spirit, will be participating. Also, from my country of residence, Yandex Team will be participating, which I'm seeing for the first time, and there's a chance they'll be the dark horse you're talking about. While writing this post, I've studied the list of teams and am happy to see 1win (strange that they're from Europe; I thought they were Russian) sponsoring the recent signature campaign. I'm also happy to see Parivision, from Russia. I'm currently busy finishing up the latest Dota event, the Oracle, because I want to win every award and then fully focus on watching the tournament.

[Pumared]

NaVi didn’t make any mistakes against 3DMAX and managed to win the match. We can say that everyone on NaVi performed at the same level. There isn’t much to say about this match. Wonderful also put on a very good performance. Maka’s performance wasn’t enough to win the match.
FURIA managed to win against Wildcard on Inferno. FURIA played well as a team and are truly strong as a unit. Wildcard didn’t play badly, but given the obvious difference in skill level, their loss was to be expected.

I was watching what happened from yesterday to today, Furia won relatively easily, despite struggling in the second half of the map. I'm betting on Pain winning, Navi winning, and I believe Mouz. I'm not betting on Furia because they're very unstable at the moment, even though it's a best-of-three for everyone now.