ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[Pumared]

After receiving a La Liga cash bonus on Jackpotter I wasted it on DOTA

Anyway, I wasn't involved in yesterday's CS World Cup matches and see only one underdog win.
Then again I would have never backed Legacy against NaVi.
More likely is that I would have wasted my money in the other matches.

That loss from Liquid also cost me a few tickets. It could've been a three map series if they closed out the first game, but they underestimated Yandex in the final fight.

On the EWC, the underdogs showed up as Legacy took out Falcons 2-0, and in the other series, Spirit finally got the best of Vitality after losing to them so many times.  

With Legacy facing Spirit in the semis, surely they can't get away with a third upset.

As I said before, Vitality may have experience, but their current form is far from good. Spirit, on the other hand, is in better form. Vitality hasn't won since May, and it's likely to last longer.

Regarding Legacy versus Spirit, depending on the maps, Legacy might have an advantage. I see Legacy coming into this match in better shape. However, Spirit has faced more difficult opponents, and that could be a deciding factor in their victory. I prefer to watch the match unfold before making a prediction.

[oll]

I’m watching the Team Spirit vs. BB match right now, and it honestly looks like a total thrashing like beating up kids. BB can’t do a thing; it’s as if Spirit are playing at 3x speed while BB are stuck at 0.5x. Yatoro is on TA and has barely been involved in the action he’s just been farming the jungle yet the team has managed to pull ahead 12 3 without him. It reminds me of that one International where Spirit dropped to the Lower Bracket but fought their way through to become champions. They’re playing like the only team that can really challenge them is Pari. Larl makes some boneheaded plays now and then, sure, but he has his moments of brilliance too.

God, how often do they pick Mirana, Pit Lord, and Ember Spirit? And Puck always seems to lose—Collapse is going to notice that. Well, there are three CIS teams left in the tournament now. Vision looks amazing, but I think the final will be Vision vs. Spirit. I don't think there's any point in watching Spirit vs. Yandex tomorrow; it’ll be a boring match that Yandex is bound to lose. I’m definitely going to skip it and sleep through it. Guys, remind me: am I right that the cosplay contest, the announcements about changes, and the video contest are happening tomorrow? Either I missed it, or they're scheduled for tomorrow...

[ralle14]

As I said before, Vitality may have experience, but their current form is far from good. Spirit, on the other hand, is in better form. Vitality hasn't won since May, and it's likely to last longer.

I admit I was wrong on Spirit, and I agree Vitality is surely regressing with jL standing in for the next two events. That semifinal match from Spirit was clean, and at this point they should be able to claim the EWC trophy because I doubt FUT could stop them.

I don't think there's any point in watching Spirit vs. Yandex tomorrow; it’ll be a boring match that Yandex is bound to lose. I’m definitely going to skip it and sleep through it. Guys, remind me: am I right that the cosplay contest, the announcements about changes, and the video contest are happening tomorrow? Either I missed it, or they're scheduled for tomorrow...

You're on point with that lower final, Spirit just ran through them on both games. Yandex had a decent start in the early phase, but they never stood a chance in the mid game when it's only CJ and their supports making the moves.

Both the cosplay and video contests just finished after the lower final, so I assume those announcements will be revealed after the final.

[execijutiere]

In my opinion, there were no surprises in the EWC semifinal matches.
I think we already knew Legacy wouldn’t be able to beat Spirit. Spirit is one of the teams really hitting their stride right now and continues to crush everyone in their path. After managing to take down Vitality, they’d honestly established themselves as the favorites of this tournament. Thanks to donk and sh1ro’s incredible play, the match against Legacy wasn’t particularly challenging for Spirit.
I’m happy that our team managed to pull off a win against FUT FURIA, even though it was a tough one. Since they won their maps by narrow margins, I have to admit I wasn’t entirely without fear that we might lose. On Dust2, after falling behind 8-4, I even started thinking, “I wish we could’ve made it to the finals,” given how far we’d come. Thankfully, we managed to turn the match around and win. New transfer xfl0ud once again proved he’s a great player.

[Cointxz]

TI Grand Finals is up. It’s an intense game 2 match which both team are so good to watch. This is a very good TI finals so far since the OG vs LGD finals before.

Both Vision and Spirit is very even including their carry are the current top of the league so their 1v1 matchup during clash is so satisfying to watching.

Since I don’t have favorite team on this TI finals, I can watch with neutral perspective. Both team deserves their spot on this TI. I’m surprised TS is still this good despite they already changed pos 4 and 5 the last time I watch them.

[emrecemsan]

In my opinion, there were no surprises in the EWC semifinal matches.

I can't say there wasn't any surprise in the semi finals. Most people expected Spirit to win but I don't think so for FUT. Because FURIA have been a Tier 1 team for a while.

They are so resistant and playing so active in every match that it isn't easy to keep up with them. But FUT managed to win the series after OT anyway. This is mostly thanks to their aim power I think.

Even Krabeni has a great aim despite being the IGL.    They are #3 in Valve ranking now.



It's the grand final day! The time is according to GMT+3. I'd love to see FUT winning the title.

[Zadicar]

TI Grand Finals is up. It’s an intense game 2 match which both team are so good to watch. This is a very good TI finals so far since the OG vs LGD finals before.

Both Vision and Spirit is very even including their carry are the current top of the league so their 1v1 matchup during clash is so satisfying to watching.

Since I don’t have favorite team on this TI finals, I can watch with neutral perspective. Both team deserves their spot on this TI. I’m surprised TS is still this good despite they already changed pos 4 and 5 the last time I watch them.

This is the battle of one true carry but when it comes to experience then Yatoro is far more experienced and too fast to farm. The current standing now is 2-1 and the game 4 is on going. Would Parivision would be able to push it to game 5 or this would be already over and getting that 3rd TI champion? This finals is really that very good to watch but well every TI is always been best. Im rooting for Spirit for this one but of course as long the game isnt over then there's always the chance. Won up the first 10 kills earlier but lost the 3rd one since Parivision get the f10k but match winner or champion would be TS.

[GreatArkansas]

LFG Team Spirit! I am more convinced about the draft of Team Spirit in Game 5. Juggernaut, the last pick from Team Vision, seems off to me. A 50% win rate throughout the tournament- it's not giving a Game 5 draft for me.
Yatoro on Lifestealer is a beast for him. I am expecting Yatoro to carry Team Spirit; they just need to give enough space for Lifestealer.

[Cointxz]

TI Grand Finals is up. It’s an intense game 2 match which both team are so good to watch. This is a very good TI finals so far since the OG vs LGD finals before.

Both Vision and Spirit is very even including their carry are the current top of the league so their 1v1 matchup during clash is so satisfying to watching.

Since I don’t have favorite team on this TI finals, I can watch with neutral perspective. Both team deserves their spot on this TI. I’m surprised TS is still this good despite they already changed pos 4 and 5 the last time I watch them.

This is the battle of one true carry but when it comes to experience then Yatoro is far more experienced and too fast to farm. The current standing now is 2-1 and the game 4 is on going. Would Parivision would be able to push it to game 5 or this would be already over and getting that 3rd TI champion? This finals is really that very good to watch but well every TI is always been best. Im rooting for Spirit for this one but of course as long the game isnt over then there's always the chance. Won up the first 10 kills earlier but lost the 3rd one since Parivision get the f10k but match winner or champion would be TS.

Vision manage to force game 5. It was good game 4 since both carries are well farmed while supports are also well prepared for item to save their carries.

Satanic life stealer is so hard to take down with Yatoro TA with full damage item already. Now, Team Spirit snatch life stealer away from Satanic so I’m curious how will game 5 will play out especially that Vision only manage to win both 2 games when Satanic using LS.

I’m not familiar with Satanic hero pool so his Juggernaut is a bit new to me now.

[oll]

It was a very cool ending, I really enjoyed all five games because they were all intense. And in general, the finals are so cool only when both sides are playing one hundred percent, and there is no total domination of one of the teams. Yatoro is very cool, and he hasn't lost a single percent of his skill over the years. He's just as good as he was at his first international. Of course, Collapse is also very cool, in general, many say that he is the coolest dota 2 player of all, and that, for example, 33 cannot compete with him at all. And I totally agree with that. It's a pity I didn't see any announcement of a new hero.

[sompitonov]

Vision manage to force game 5. It was good game 4 since both carries are well farmed while supports are also well prepared for item to save their carries.

Satanic life stealer is so hard to take down with Yatoro TA with full damage item already. Now, Team Spirit snatch life stealer away from Satanic so I’m curious how will game 5 will play out especially that Vision only manage to win both 2 games when Satanic using LS.

I’m not familiar with Satanic hero pool so his Juggernaut is a bit new to me now.

Map 4 was great, but map 5 was just AMAZING. I'm thrilled with such a grand final because I've been watching The International for years. Besides, I remember how boring last year's final was; I've missed games like today. Of course, Spirit deserved this impressive win, but Vision also played very well, and in my opinion, they were just a little unlucky in some moments. In any case, I'll be watching this grand final again. I'm also worried about where the next International will be held; it's currently unknown.

[sunsilk]

I’m not familiar with Satanic hero pool so his Juggernaut is a bit new to me now.

Everyone was astonished of that pick, I also have seen it for the first time. I think puppey just gave it to him and let him enjoy the last game.

IMO, that's a fine thing for the team when they have surprised us with a juggernaut pick but there could be other better choice.

Congratulations, to the three-peat TI champions - Team Spirit! IIRC they also have won the EWC for cs2. What a team.

[ralle14]

I’m not familiar with Satanic hero pool so his Juggernaut is a bit new to me now.

I've seen them pick it before, but it wasn't that impactful compared to when he's on other meta heroes. Still, it was impressive how they almost made that work and shook up Spirit in the late game.

Congratulations, to the three-peat TI champions - Team Spirit! IIRC they also have won the EWC for cs2. What a team.

Yup, Spirit's CS2 squad also won the EWC 3-1 after losing the first map. They fell short in the final of the previous event, but redeemed themselves with this win.

[GreatArkansas]

Vision manage to force game 5. It was good game 4 since both carries are well farmed while supports are also well prepared for item to save their carries.

Satanic life stealer is so hard to take down with Yatoro TA with full damage item already. Now, Team Spirit snatch life stealer away from Satanic so I’m curious how will game 5 will play out especially that Vision only manage to win both 2 games when Satanic using LS.

I’m not familiar with Satanic hero pool so his Juggernaut is a bit new to me now.

Map 4 was great, but map 5 was just AMAZING. I'm thrilled with such a grand final because I've been watching The International for years. Besides, I remember how boring last year's final was; I've missed games like today. Of course, Spirit deserved this impressive win, but Vision also played very well, and in my opinion, they were just a little unlucky in some moments. In any case, I'll be watching this grand final again. I'm also worried about where the next International will be held; it's currently unknown.

We just need to be happy; they gave us a great 5 beautiful matches, a solid TI grand finals game! Some fans are disappointed because of their team lost, and they need someone to blame again and Puppey is there because again of the draft, I heard a lot of fans are really pissed off on draft of Team Vision even on Game 1 of Finals. But if Team Vision managed to win, none of these will be said. Congrats to everyone.

[sunsilk]

Congratulations, to the three-peat TI champions - Team Spirit! IIRC they also have won the EWC for cs2. What a team.

Yup, Spirit's CS2 squad also won the EWC 3-1 after losing the first map. They fell short in the final of the previous event, but redeemed themselves with this win.

Nice. They're a dominating organization right now with all of the tournaments that they have participated.

They've won so much in prize money and that's good for an esports team that have been supporting professional players.

For cs2, donk has also won $25k as mvp. Congratulations to both of their esports teams.

[boltz]

I can happily say I saw all Team Spirit Ti's winning grand finals and all of them have been epic in so many ways. Yatoro ended up doing a godlike , 1 godlike Sunder with TerroBlade where he ended up swapping health from his illusion to avoid Snapfire kisses and ended up winning the game but also the insane clutch of Silver Edge and going back into the fight and killing both Satanic and DM...that's beyond skill and it's something you don't learn , it auto appears, that's why Team Spirit are the goats.

I simply couldn't hold myself not to make a post about the greatest team of Dota 2 of all time. Also , if the rumors are true , Collapse is the new offlaner of Team Falcons 

[emrecemsan]

I wish FUT were able to surprise us but unfortunately... It's the 2nd time that a Turkish organization qualifies for an EWC finale but fails. The previous one was by Aurora against TheMongolZ.

I thought FUT would be better than that on Ancient. It's been their best map and they've played it many more times than Spirit in the recent months. We could have seen the 5th map at least then.

Anyway, great work by Spirit as they won big tournaments in CS2 and DOTA 2 both recently.

[hedgeh0g]

I can happily say I saw all Team Spirit Ti's winning grand finals and all of them have been epic in so many ways. Yatoro ended up doing a godlike , 1 godlike Sunder with TerroBlade where he ended up swapping health from his illusion to avoid Snapfire kisses and ended up winning the game but also the insane clutch of Silver Edge and going back into the fight and killing both Satanic and DM...that's beyond skill and it's something you don't learn , it auto appears, that's why Team Spirit are the goats.

I simply couldn't hold myself not to make a post about the greatest team of Dota 2 of all time. Also , if the rumors are true , Collapse is the new offlaner of Team Falcons 

I do not know how Yatoro does this. Sometimes I wanted to grab my heart when I saw what was happening on the screen, and how thin the line was between which of the two teams was winning. At these moments, my friends and I corresponded on Telegram and our chat was extremely active. There was a moment when Tusk shoved TB into a snowball to save him, they rolled to the nearest enemy units and this saved Yatoro from enemy attacks. There was a moment when he swapped HP with his illusions, as you correctly noted. It's not a gaming skill, it's pure and magnificent art.

[oll]

I can happily say I saw all Team Spirit Ti's winning grand finals and all of them have been epic in so many ways. Yatoro ended up doing a godlike , 1 godlike Sunder with TerroBlade where he ended up swapping health from his illusion to avoid Snapfire kisses and ended up winning the game but also the insane clutch of Silver Edge and going back into the fight and killing both Satanic and DM...that's beyond skill and it's something you don't learn , it auto appears, that's why Team Spirit are the goats.

I simply couldn't hold myself not to make a post about the greatest team of Dota 2 of all time. Also , if the rumors are true , Collapse is the new offlaner of Team Falcons  

I do not know how Yatoro does this. Sometimes I wanted to grab my heart when I saw what was happening on the screen, and how thin the line was between which of the two teams was winning. At these moments, my friends and I corresponded on Telegram and our chat was extremely active. There was a moment when Tusk shoved TB into a snowball to save him, they rolled to the nearest enemy units and this saved Yatoro from enemy attacks. There was a moment when he swapped HP with his illusions, as you correctly noted. It's not a gaming skill, it's pure and magnificent art.

If I were in Team Spirit's shoes, giving a victory speech, I would acknowledge that while the win was spectacular, the competition was fierce they were incredibly close to victory themselves. At just 18, Satanic is undeniably talented; there are perhaps few in the world who can farm creeps faster than he does. His net worth is consistently the highest. He is an exceptionally strong player something I’m sure you’d agree with even without my praise. They took first place. Personally, though, I’d get rid of Dukalis; he’s toxic and makes frequent mistakes. Plus, he gives off a creepy, maniacal vibe. I just don't like him.