Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Soonandwaite]

the hamburger sv will probably lose another player. jonny Kittel will probably leave the club.
where he will go is not yet clear. but the tendency says that he will go to european countries.
sonny Kittel is a good second division player. but to become a great player he lacks the ambition of steffan effenberg or lothar matthäus. 

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[cygan]

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sonny Kittel is a good second division player. but to become a great player he lacks the ambition of steffan effenberg or lothar matthäus. 

or from a Mario Basler
SK is indeed a very good player for the 2. bundesliga but not more. in my eyes he is too weak or too inconsistent for the 1. bundesliga let alone for other top leagues abroad.
i am very curious to see where he will sign his next contract. for hamburger sv he will definitely be a loss

[bct_ail]

for hamburger sv he will definitely be a loss

That would definitely be a loss for Hamburger SV. Sonny Kittel has a contract until the summer of 2023, so this would be the penultimate chance for Hamburger SV to get good money for him. Only he can know why he wants to go abroad. But he is already 29 years old and at that age it will certainly be his almost last move to a good club.

[izsara]

the hamburger sv will probably lose another player. jonny Kittel will probably leave the club.
where he will go is not yet clear. but the tendency says that he will go to european countries.
sonny Kittel is a good second division player. but to become a great player he lacks the ambition of steffan effenberg or lothar matthäus. 

Sonny Kittel was a pretty good Attacking Midfielder last season and he deserves to be one of the most influential players in HSV. He is good at guarding the midfield with acceleration and movement without the ball sometimes bothering opposing players. but I still haven't found any news about this player's move.
But if I had to choose, I think it would be better for him to stay than at another club and fail to show his performances.

[JeWay]

That would definitely be a loss for Hamburger SV. Sonny Kittel has a contract until the summer of 2023, so this would be the penultimate chance for Hamburger SV to get good money for him. Only he can know why he wants to go abroad. But he is already 29 years old and at that age it will certainly be his almost last move to a good club.

It seems that there has been direct communication from Sony Kattel with several Bundesliga teams and overseas teams regarding his desire to change clubs in this transfer window. HSV was really left behind by their star players after they went down to the bundesliga 2. maybe this is the meaning of player loyalty is difficult to get if a team has to go down to the caste to league 2.  one side of kattel contract will expire next season may also be a reference for HSV to take the right decision .

[laurenB7742]

That would definitely be a loss for Hamburger SV. Sonny Kittel has a contract until the summer of 2023, so this would be the penultimate chance for Hamburger SV to get good money for him. Only he can know why he wants to go abroad. But he is already 29 years old and at that age it will certainly be his almost last move to a good club.

It seems that there has been direct communication from Sony Kattel with several Bundesliga teams and overseas teams regarding his desire to change clubs in this transfer window. HSV was really left behind by their star players after they went down to the bundesliga 2. maybe this is the meaning of player loyalty is difficult to get if a team has to go down to the caste to league 2.  one side of kattel contract will expire next season may also be a reference for HSV to take the right decision .

It is obviously really hard for any team to get a player's trust if they are not able to get good results in spite of the star player performing well. So, it is really understandable to me if he actually wants to leave the team. He has realized that he has a better future in any other team that is better than his current team, overall I think this was the right decision. But I think Hamburger will take the right decisions regarding their players and they will improve.

[Soonandwaite]

David Kinsombi has now found a new club. he is moving from hamburger sv to sv sandhausen.
and David K. will receive an additional 250k euros from hsv.  

David Kinsombi moved from holstein kiel to hsv for 3 million euros in 2019 !
Kittel and Vagnoman are also expected to leave, but these two players are expected to bring in a transfer fee . how much > ?

[SquallLeonhart]

David Kinsombi has now found a new club. he is moving from hamburger sv to sv sandhausen.
and David K. will receive an additional 250k euros from hsv.  

David Kinsombi moved from holstein kiel to hsv for 3 million euros in 2019 !
Kittel and Vagnoman are also expected to leave, but these two players are expected to bring in a transfer fee . how much > ?

Sometimes teams make big mistakes, and they do pay for it later on. I would guess that it is going to take a while before all of the dust is settled, it is not easy to sell your bundesliga level players, and get bundesliga 2 level of players, or build a team that could build a bundesliga 2 winners level, all of that is hard.

When you are at the top division, all you have to do is not to relegate, you can finish 14th and it would still be fine for these clubs, they are not after winning every game and its fine. But when you are here, you need every sale, and every transfer so that you could get high again, which will take a lot of wins to get there and a lot of money well spent.

[bct_ail]

David Kinsombi has now found a new club. he is moving from hamburger sv to sv sandhausen.
and David K. will receive an additional 250k euros from hsv.  

David Kinsombi moved from holstein kiel to hsv for 3 million euros in 2019 !
Kittel and Vagnoman are also expected to leave, but these two players are expected to bring in a transfer fee . how much > ?

But there should also be transfer fees for David Kinsombi. His contract with Hamburger SV ran until June 2023, but I could not find anything about how much he was sold for.
But I just read that Kittel will be moving to Major League Soccer in the USA. It is not yet known to which club. But perhaps he will also extend his contract with Hamburger SV for another year in order to be promoted. That would also be an option.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I really don't know about is it a good idea to stay in the second Bundesliga when you are getting offers from teams in Bundesliga?

But isn't that exactly the behaviour whicht fans like us expect from the players? Admit to their club? Regardless of whether big money is calling somewhere else? This kind of behaviour is becoming less and less common in our time and I think it is good that he did it.
Besides, we do not know which other clubs wanted him and how often he could play there. He feels good at Hamburger SV and certainly has the trust of the team, the coach and the whole club. And he is happy with that. I think that is great.

This is something that I really admire, and it is one of the reasons why I follow the 2nd Bundesliga, to tell the truth the team that marked me a lot was St Pauli, I think they are a very complete team but their mistake was to have been overconfident during the tournament, in fact, some betting platforms had suggested that the 2nd Bundesliga make it an option to always make bets, this league is quite busy, the players are very good and the most important thing is the emotions that they arouse, at least last 2nd Bundesliga it was very easy to get to 1st place and the fight was very exciting, this gives the fans a lot of hopes and emotions.

[Soonandwaite]

on friday 15 july the 2.bundesliga starts again. today the first matchday was published.

1. FC Kaiserslautern - Hannover 96 (Fr. pm 8:30 )
SpVgg Greuther Fürth - Holstein Kiel
FC St. Pauli - 1. FC Nürnberg
SC Paderborn - Karlsruher SC
Hansa Rostock - 1. FC Heidenheim
SV Sandhausen - Arminia Bielefeld
Jahn Regensburg - SV Darmstadt 98
1. FC Magdeburg - Fortuna Düsseldorf
Eintracht Braunschweig - Hamburger SV

who is in front after the first matchday ?

[coco23]

who is in front after the first matchday ?

St Pauli vs Nürnberg looks like the top game considering the ranking of the last season. This might end in a draw. It is a bit random to look for a best team after one match day, but I think Kaiserslautern and Darmstadt will win their games and potentially taking the lead.
For the whole year, it might be finally the time for Hamburg to reach a spot in the top2 and to go back to the Bundesliga.

[bct_ail]

who is in front after the first matchday ?

St Pauli vs Nürnberg looks like the top game considering the ranking of the last season. This might end in a draw. It is a bit random to look for a best team after one match day, but I think Kaiserslautern and Darmstadt will win their games and potentially taking the lead.
For the whole year, it might be finally the time for Hamburg to reach a spot in the top2 and to go back to the Bundesliga.

I also think that the first matchday should not be judged as too big. The same goes for the next two. Only then does everything slowly start to flow and the teams see where they stand. Besides, there are a lot of changes in the team and they have to come on track first. But St. Pauli against Nürnberg will be interesting. But I am more curious how the relegated teams from the 1st and the promoted teams from the 3rd Bundesliga will play at the beginning.

[Soonandwaite]

For the whole year, it might be finally the time for Hamburg to reach a spot in the top2 and to go back to the Bundesliga.

sonny kittel is moving to the usa . and vagnoman will probably also leave the hsv. that's already 2 important players who will be missing next season.
the hsv has to replace these players now. but for that you need money .
and the hsv doesn't have that much money to pay for very good players . that's already a big problem. and unknown cheap players are very few .
i'm really curious with which team the hsv will start the coming season 

[bct_ail]

For the whole year, it might be finally the time for Hamburg to reach a spot in the top2 and to go back to the Bundesliga.

sonny kittel is moving to the usa . and vagnoman will probably also leave the hsv. that's already 2 important players who will be missing next season.
the hsv has to replace these players now. but for that you need money .
and the hsv doesn't have that much money to pay for very good players . that's already a big problem. and unknown cheap players are very few .
i'm really curious with which team the hsv will start the coming season  

I do nott know what the planning of the team at Hamburger SV looks like. But surely they will integrate one or the other player from the B-team or maybe even from the youth into the professional team.
But they still have until 31 August before the transfer window closes.

[Marvell1]

St Pauli vs Nürnberg looks like the top game considering the ranking of the last season. This might end in a draw. It is a bit random to look for a best team after one match day, but I think Kaiserslautern and Darmstadt will win their games and potentially taking the lead.
For the whole year, it might be finally the time for Hamburg to reach a spot in the top2 and to go back to the Bundesliga.

I also think that the first matchday should not be judged as too big. The same goes for the next two. Only then does everything slowly start to flow and the teams see where they stand. Besides, there are a lot of changes in the team and they have to come on track first. But St. Pauli against Nürnberg will be interesting. But I am more curious how the relegated teams from the 1st and the promoted teams from the 3rd Bundesliga will play at the beginning.

Generally, the players of mostly all the teams are a little rusty at the start of the season. So, I think that can cause the players to underperform at the start of the season and especially in the first two or three matches. So, I don't think we should judge just by watching the first few matches.

sonny kittel is moving to the usa . and vagnoman will probably also leave the hsv. that's already 2 important players who will be missing next season.
the hsv has to replace these players now. but for that you need money .
and the hsv doesn't have that much money to pay for very good players . that's already a big problem. and unknown cheap players are very few .
i'm really curious with which team the hsv will start the coming season  

I think they should get at least one player for that position which they feel is a little weak. They have to make some adjustments in the team because people have some big expectations from them in the next season. So, I think there will have to spend some.

[bct_ail]

sonny kittel is moving to the usa . and vagnoman will probably also leave the hsv. that's already 2 important players who will be missing next season.
the hsv has to replace these players now. but for that you need money .
and the hsv doesn't have that much money to pay for very good players . that's already a big problem. and unknown cheap players are very few .
i'm really curious with which team the hsv will start the coming season  

I think they should get at least one player for that position which they feel is a little weak. They have to make some adjustments in the team because people have some big expectations from them in the next season. So, I think there will have to spend some.

With Sonny Kittel, they no longer need to worry. The negotiations between Kittel and DC United Washington have failed. According to his statement and from Hamburger SV, he now wants to stay at Hamburg after all. I'm curious to see if he is 100% satisfied with that and goes into next season with full energy.

[Soonandwaite]

With Sonny Kittel, they no longer need to worry. The negotiations between Kittel and DC United Washington have failed. According to his statement and from Hamburger SV, he now wants to stay at Hamburg after all. I'm curious to see if he is 100% satisfied with that and goes into next season with full energy.

yes yes. sonny kittel is now staying with hamburger sv. first he wanted to leave. for a joke transfer fee of 1.million euros.
and now tim walter is thrilled again that sonny is staying in hamburg. i hope he will be happy in hamburg.
because only when sonny is happy does he make good matches. and in the last season he was unfortunately often not so happy. 

now i'm still curious how much money hamburg will get for Vagnoman. he will probably move to stuttgart.

[Prosperiousproduct]

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[bct_ail]

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now i'm still curious how much money hamburg will get for Vagnoman. he will probably move to stuttgart.

According to the media both clubs have an agreement and it is only a question of the transfer fee.
However Hamburger SV can announce another player. Bénes from Borussia Mönchengladbach. He was a loanplayer in Kiel in 2019. Tim Walter was also the coach there at the same time. So it can only be an advantage that both already know each other.