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July 27, 2021, 11:55:29 PM
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Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck.
I agree that the luck takes a part of your success but do keep in mind that you should not rely on luck. Your skill and your decision could make stuff different than what you would have thought. But, assuming that high risk investment means gambling is kinda stupid for me. Gambling is 100% luck compared to investment where investment the research and your decision are reasons why you get the profit.
Dealing with easy m0ney or simply with HYIPS is just suicide and only fools who do only believe on this one and even think that they could really get rich with this one.
Just let them be into those people who do really believe initially because sooner or later they would really be realizing on how hard to earn money and not just really
relying with luck because you are just basically doing gambling if you do have this kind of behavior and also this is why lots of people get victimized with scams
due to this kind of mindset but once you do gain experience you would realize everything.,

Experience in the crypto world will teach us many things, therefore people who are experienced in the crypto world are usually wiser in making
decisions. While beginners usually want to get instant profits, which will only lead them to losses. The wrong mindset by assuming high risk
investment will make us get rich faster, because making money is not easy. It took a long process and patience, in the end it is not surprising
that many beginners are victims of fraud, because they really don't understand how crypto works.

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July 28, 2021, 12:33:04 AM
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Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

In the world wars, young and naive people go to battle field and fight each other to death, they take risk to protect the war that they can never win, while they’re being manipulate by the other group of elite who do not like to take such risk. These elite tell the young people to take the risk despite they know it’s risky and they don’t want take the risk but want someone else to take such risk. Many people died and sacrificed in the war that can’t be won. The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.
Lol. The world is full of risks. Early bitcoin adopters knew the risk but guess what? They are millionaires now. If you dont know how to hold then you wont become rich.

By your philosophy of war, it's true that young people fought the war. However, calling them naive is quite unfair. They fought war because they want their loved ones to have freedom from oppression. If not those young, who else would? Those elites are old and probably business man who knows nothing but how to make money and politics. You probably have no knowledge in wars.
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July 28, 2021, 03:25:38 AM
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Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck.
I agree that the luck takes a part of your success but do keep in mind that you should not rely on luck. Your skill and your decision could make stuff different than what you would have thought. But, assuming that high risk investment means gambling is kinda stupid for me. Gambling is 100% luck compared to investment where investment the research and your decision are reasons why you get the profit.
Dealing with easy m0ney or simply with HYIPS is just suicide and only fools who do only believe on this one and even think that they could really get rich with this one.
Just let them be into those people who do really believe initially because sooner or later they would really be realizing on how hard to earn money and not just really
relying with luck because you are just basically doing gambling if you do have this kind of behavior and also this is why lots of people get victimized with scams
due to this kind of mindset but once you do gain experience you would realize everything.,

Experience in the crypto world will teach us many things, therefore people who are experienced in the crypto world are usually wiser in making
decisions. While beginners usually want to get instant profits, which will only lead them to losses. The wrong mindset by assuming high risk
investment will make us get rich faster, because making money is not easy. It took a long process and patience, in the end it is not surprising
that many beginners are victims of fraud, because they really don't understand how crypto works.
Indeed. Our world was full of risk which sometimes we don't give our attention that's why we have a hard time to understand everything and didn't develop ourselves. Young and naive guy know the risk, but still they try because they know they can handle it and do it without any hesitation that might they lose money because of it. And now, as we can see, some of them are already a millionaire because they make their experiences and all their mistakes as their inspiration to become better. If you know how to hold and face those hard times then you will become rich, I tell you.
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July 28, 2021, 04:31:45 AM
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Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck.
I agree that the luck takes a part of your success but do keep in mind that you should not rely on luck. Your skill and your decision could make stuff different than what you would have thought. But, assuming that high risk investment means gambling is kinda stupid for me. Gambling is 100% luck compared to investment where investment the research and your decision are reasons why you get the profit.
Dealing with easy m0ney or simply with HYIPS is just suicide and only fools who do only believe on this one and even think that they could really get rich with this one.
Just let them be into those people who do really believe initially because sooner or later they would really be realizing on how hard to earn money and not just really
relying with luck because you are just basically doing gambling if you do have this kind of behavior and also this is why lots of people get victimized with scams
due to this kind of mindset but once you do gain experience you would realize everything.,

Agreed, but we all knew that when we were newbies, we put our money into HYIPs because they were not yet well-known and we believed that we would make a lot of money in the long run. We initially believed it was the only way to make money and that it was also very simple, which it is not. People want easy money with little effort, which leads to us losing money and being scammed. But now that people are aware of it, scammers are becoming fewer as they are unable to make any money.
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July 28, 2021, 05:43:31 AM
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If you want to get good returns, then obviously you need to take a very high level of risk. Back in 2011 and 2012, no one actually believed that Bitcoin would go up by 5,000 times in a decade. So those who invested in it back then were taking an extremely high amount of risk. Now you will not get another 5000 times return, if you invest in Bitcoin at the current levels. For that, you need to invest in newer projects. But those with 5-6 years of experience in the cryptocurrency sector will be able to better select the projects that have a good future potential.
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July 29, 2021, 04:58:11 PM
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It is not even close if you ask me. Unless you are holding some small cap very high risk coin, I would say that holding a coin profits a lot more, gambling is guaranteed loss, holding a coin is not a guaranteed loss. Can you lose money? Of course, but will you lose it all? Unless you happen to buy a coin that is so brand new that it is not even released yet and you bought it on presale and then they end up with causing you to get rug pulled or anything, then you are fine.

Go ahead and hold bitcoin, it is almost 100% guaranteed that given enough time you are going to profit and that is what people care for, making good enough profit is all we can ask for, gambling is not like that, you are going to end up losing all of your money there for sure. This is why I honestly think that gambling and long term holding are just the opposite, one makes you money while other loses you money.
This is true, they are not even close because in gambling house edge guarantees losing money. I personally believe that investment is the only way out of poverty in this world, I have met with people who had 40% savings rate, that means they save 40% of all their income, which is insane to think about, if I wanted to do the same thing I would have to stay at home all day, even maybe make more than I do right now just a bit, and eat remain food every single day, eat very cheap and bad food, and do nothing.

At the end of the day just the bills I pay every month is about 20% of my whole salary anyway, which means that I am left with a very tiny amount, considering I smoke (which I should stop I know) I end up with another 10% just from that.

So long story short is it possible to do something like this? It is possible but at the end of the day you would have to live a horrible life for a decade and then you can retire, I do not think that 10 years of horrible life would be psychologically good afterwards.
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July 29, 2021, 11:57:31 PM
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Dealing with easy m0ney or simply with HYIPS is just suicide and only fools who do only believe on this one and even think that they could really get rich with this one.
Just let them be into those people who do really believe initially because sooner or later they would really be realizing on how hard to earn money and not just really
relying with luck because you are just basically doing gambling if you do have this kind of behavior and also this is why lots of people get victimized with scams
due to this kind of mindset but once you do gain experience you would realize everything.,
Experience in the crypto world will teach us many things, therefore people who are experienced in the crypto world are usually wiser in making
decisions. While beginners usually want to get instant profits, which will only lead them to losses. The wrong mindset by assuming high risk
investment will make us get rich faster, because making money is not easy. It took a long process and patience, in the end it is not surprising
that many beginners are victims of fraud, because they really don't understand how crypto works.
Indeed. Our world was full of risk which sometimes we don't give our attention that's why we have a hard time to understand everything and didn't develop ourselves. Young and naive guy know the risk, but still they try because they know they can handle it and do it without any hesitation that might they lose money because of it. And now, as we can see, some of them are already a millionaire because they make their experiences and all their mistakes as their inspiration to become better. If you know how to hold and face those hard times then you will become rich, I tell you.

People who learn a lot from the mistakes they have made, they begin to be able to face every risk that exists in crypto investment. So don't ever
be lazy to learn, because learning a lot can make us grow and make wise decisions. Even many investors who are already rich and successful,
never stop learning, because it keeps them on the right track. So most of the rich people have gone through many experiences in their lives,
because being rich cannot be obtained overnight.


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August 02, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
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Your example does not seem to me appropriate for the economy and the brick market. Here we have Bitcoin that has shown incredible profits in 10 years.
If you sold all your property and invested in Bitcoin for 5 years, it would be a very high risk, but with an equally huge reward.

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August 02, 2021, 09:59:15 PM
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People who learn a lot from the mistakes they have made, they begin to be able to face every risk that exists in crypto investment. So don't ever
be lazy to learn, because learning a lot can make us grow and make wise decisions. Even many investors who are already rich and successful,
never stop learning, because it keeps them on the right track. So most of the rich people have gone through many experiences in their lives,
because being rich cannot be obtained overnight.

You need to have that kind of treatment when you are still active inside this business, never to stop learning and keep enhancing your
skills towards this venue of investment.

The more knowledge you gained the wider opportunities you've got from this market, keep yourself open for any changes and adjust if
it's needed for you to do so.
You should be!

This would be requiring continuous learning because we are improving and there are changes which would really be needing new knowledge on making yourself to be safe or aware on what would be the actions you would really do on certain situation or condition.

Human beings are naturally greedy but when you are knowledgeable you would able to save your ass up.

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August 03, 2021, 06:53:02 AM
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Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

In the world wars, young and naive people go to battle field and fight each other to death, they take risk to protect the war that they can never win, while they’re being manipulate by the other group of elite who do not like to take such risk. These elite tell the young people to take the risk despite they know it’s risky and they don’t want take the risk but want someone else to take such risk. Many people died and sacrificed in the war that can’t be won. The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.
Even though what you are saying is not very clear, I would however say that talking about war, the soldiers that go to war do so to keep their nation safe even though most of them end up sacrificing their lives for you and me. Secondly went it comes to cryptocurrency investment, people will also invest in whatever they think will make you profit even if you are not guaranteed.
Risk is part of life, you travelling is a risk because anything can happen on the way and in everything, you must understand that there are winners and losers.
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August 03, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
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Your example does not seem to me appropriate for the economy and the brick market. Here we have Bitcoin that has shown incredible profits in 10 years.
If you sold all your property and invested in Bitcoin for 5 years, it would be a very high risk, but with an equally huge reward.
It's popular that there's a family that have sold their properties and everything for bitcoin on the year 2017, IIRC. It's before the bull run on that time and that guy's family is surely enjoying the risk that they've taken.

That example you've given, it's not that everyone can avail that but only a few and rare people have that guts to do it.

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August 03, 2021, 11:25:29 AM
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Elites make money at every situation that is why they are being an elite, and I don't like your comparison though because it sucks. People who are joining in the border force and army has the motto of serving the nation and ready to give their life at anytime so don't insult them as profit and investment.

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August 03, 2021, 12:40:26 PM
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Your example does not seem to me appropriate for the economy and the brick market. Here we have Bitcoin that has shown incredible profits in 10 years.
If you sold all your property and invested in Bitcoin for 5 years, it would be a very high risk, but with an equally huge reward.
It's popular that there's a family that have sold their properties and everything for bitcoin on the year 2017, IIRC. It's before the bull run on that time and that guy's family is surely enjoying the risk that they've taken.

That example you've given, it's not that everyone can avail that but only a few and rare people have that guts to do it.

I still remember a video where some bearded guy sold his house and bought Litecoins... not 100% sure, the price was around $3 at that time!

The headline is wrong, only young and naive people don't think about the consequences of the high risk! Focused on possible high returns they don't think about what can/will happen after making a wrong move!
High risk can bring high returns, it's happening all the time. But there's the other side of that coin, probably a bigger one, full of people who tried and lost!

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August 03, 2021, 01:10:57 PM
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High returns are priced that way to pay participants for TAKING A RISK. It is magical thinking to consider high rewards without being intentional and alert to consequences.

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August 03, 2021, 01:21:26 PM
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Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

I think taking high risk in trading or investment has nothing to do with age, some people by nature are inclined towards gambling to get quick rich but  my learning through experince and life time observation taught me a clear lessson that  such adventures eventually end up in disaster with some exception when they win becuase luck is on their side. Risk managment is a science and we should learn it before jumping into any kind of trading and i can say with confidence you will win most of the time when you follow it.









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August 04, 2021, 07:19:19 AM
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Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

I think taking high risk in trading or investment has nothing to do with age, some people by nature are inclined towards gambling to get quick rich but  my learning through experince and life time observation taught me a clear lessson that  such adventures eventually end up in disaster with some exception when they win becuase luck is on their side. Risk managment is a science and we should learn it before jumping into any kind of trading and i can say with confidence you will win most of the time when you follow it.
Old people are not necessarily wise, this is related to a person's mindset. sometimes even the young ones can calculate everything well. in trading between gambling and trading is always debated. but rest assured for those who gamble here of course it will not last long in the crypto market. it is different for those who are experienced, of course they will be calmer in dealing with profit or loss, because both are common things in trading
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August 04, 2021, 07:44:21 AM
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Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

I think taking high risk in trading or investment has nothing to do with age, some people by nature are inclined towards gambling to get quick rich but  my learning through experince and life time observation taught me a clear lessson that  such adventures eventually end up in disaster with some exception when they win becuase luck is on their side. Risk managment is a science and we should learn it before jumping into any kind of trading and i can say with confidence you will win most of the time when you follow it.
Absolutely. I don't think is about age even though I do understand why the poster might think this. Older people have come a long way from investments and must have learnt a lot over those times and might have not withness investments as volatile as what we have with Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies today. Now the younger generations that are coming into the market might also be looking at it as a get rich quick thing hence all the losses you will hear and that don't mean older people are not involved in it too.
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August 04, 2021, 08:26:17 AM
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My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.
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August 04, 2021, 08:46:22 AM
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OP, at first, after reading your post and couple of first replies I thought you were just trolling. But with reading your detailed replies later I got an impression that you really want to talk about something important, but you don't have much to say, and you keep repeating same things all the time,some of which are total nonsense like this one:

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delusional, making 100x profit requires to scam a lot more people than making 2x profit.
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and others showing that you don't understand how economy works, like this one:

~~ it’s very clear inflation is man made and clearly it’s the bank and government interaction that’s the main culprit.
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Do you know that inflation is actually good for the economy? Yes, it shouldn't be too high, I'm talking about a moderate one, but from your post it looks like you think of inflation as absolute evil.

We take risks all the time: in some instances we succeed, and we fail in others. That's life, and it's beautiful. Your argument that we shouldn't take risks because some "elite" benefits more than we do is unconvincing to me.

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August 04, 2021, 02:32:31 PM
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My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

In fact, people will know that when investing has a high profit, it is automatically a high risk, many say bitcoin/crypto is gambling but I don't think so because there are many factors that make us believe this is not gambling.
This fact is somewhat too general and sometimes misinterprets some points, it is generally more accurate to risk based on the investor's economic background, a person with good economics won't worry about losing a few thousand dollars while a person with poor economics will be the opposite. It's just one of a few small factors, but it can be said that believing in that rule is an incomplete experience, however, we cannot attribute all of that deficiency to young men, age does not define a person's experience

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