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August 05, 2021, 10:07:26 PM
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I did not believe on fixed matches before until I noticed it is actually true, but normal all league matches can be fixed too even more than friendly matches, that is the reason I do not like to place bet on small matches again, also many of the friendly matches are not common, there is possibility of fixing the uncommon ones, but that does not still stop me from trying to choose over 1.5. I understand you very well, going for wining on friendly matches will mostly result to loss because even the underdog can win, but I do not go for straight win in friendly matches.
Fixed matches are a great problem within the industry, many people like you used to believe that things like this do not really happen, but they do, and there have been huge scandals because it has happened on some of the most popular leagues around the world and some of the most important games, so it is to be expected that fixing a friendly match is way easier than in any other match because nothing is at stake, and if a team underperforms then no one is going to care about it because there is a justification for it as the players are not giving their 100%.

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August 06, 2021, 09:15:00 AM
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Fixed matches are a great problem within the industry, many people like you used to believe that things like this do not really happen, but they do, and there have been huge scandals because it has happened on some of the most popular leagues around the world and some of the most important games, so it is to be expected that fixing a friendly match is way easier than in any other match because nothing is at stake, and if a team underperforms then no one is going to care about it because there is a justification for it as the players are not giving their 100%.
Yes, fixing matches is true and happening in foot ball, but also some people have taken the chance to scam people that like easy things, scammers will just predict one or two matches with big odds like 4 or 5 odds or more, they will sell it to their victims saying the matches are fixed but not fixed and the victim will lose the bets. But back to the main point, both friendly and small matches can be fixed, that is why I prefer going for big matches like leagues, cups and campaigns league which I know they are not fixed.

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August 06, 2021, 09:34:57 AM
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Usually, when it comes to friendly matches (in this case, imagine soccer), I prefer to stay away. In friendly matches, you can't predict a lot of things: you can't fairly judge who will try their best to win the match and who will try to preserve energies for another match or for whatever the reason they have.
When it comes to goals, yeah, I agree with you, there is the high probability that there will be more goals because friendly matches mean nothing and teams shouldn't be focusing on their defense line but at the same time it means that attackers won't be intensive/forceful.
And if it's right that there are more goals in this kind of meeting do you really think bookmakers are not aware of that and don't adjust their odds to get less profits on higher number of goals? It's the job of the bookmakers to evaluate odds of a outcome to happen, they won't give extra gains just for fun.
They'll make sure the betters would be interested on betting both sides, if most bettors are betting on the other side, the odds will move as it's the job of the bookmakers to balance the betting so the site will not suffer and they'll continue to accept bets.

The odds are always adjusted according to how bets are placed. If many bettors bet on many goals, then the odds for few goals are increased and those for many goals are decreased. In principle, the betting provider only thinks about the initial odds, but as soon as the first bets are placed, the further setting of the odds happens purely on algorithms.
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August 06, 2021, 11:40:07 AM
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Yes, fixing matches is true and happening in foot ball, but also some people have taken the chance to scam people that like easy things, scammers will just predict one or two matches with big odds like 4 or 5 odds or more, they will sell it to their victims saying the matches are fixed but not fixed and the victim will lose the bets. But back to the main point, both friendly and small matches can be fixed, that is why I prefer going for big matches like leagues, cups and campaigns league which I know they are not fixed.
About match fixing and people actually digging in to buy these predicted odds, I wonder why these things happens. Is it greed on the part of the the ones actually making and selling the predictions. Let me explain;
There is every possibility that, should a supposed match be fixed and you are aware and sure of it, you could break the rule of investing and stake more than you can afford to loose just to maximise profit but then, some persons end up selling these predictions with hopes of getting some additional income off the predictions. Is that greed at play or some safe move aimed at getting some funds.
I see these guys making the predictions to be really safe because, it could turn out that, the matches weren't fixed at all but then, a prediction born out of there prediction but then, they let you take all the risk for them and should it turn to play out, you pay otherwise you take the lose alone.
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August 06, 2021, 12:02:03 PM
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Fixed matches are a great problem within the industry, many people like you used to believe that things like this do not really happen, but they do, and there have been huge scandals because it has happened on some of the most popular leagues around the world and some of the most important games, so it is to be expected that fixing a friendly match is way easier than in any other match because nothing is at stake, and if a team underperforms then no one is going to care about it because there is a justification for it as the players are not giving their 100%.
Yes, fixing matches is true and happening in foot ball, but also some people have taken the chance to scam people that like easy things, scammers will just predict one or two matches with big odds like 4 or 5 odds or more, they will sell it to their victims saying the matches are fixed but not fixed and the victim will lose the bets. But back to the main point, both friendly and small matches can be fixed, that is why I prefer going for big matches like leagues, cups and campaigns league which I know they are not fixed.
actually those victims of this kind of scam are deserving to their situation because they are also cheaters , imagine wanna buy a  fixed match just to win instantly ? so these scammers are making money against their own buddies in which cheaters.

sports betting is one of the most colorful and worth a bet in gambling and if you add this kind of behavior then you are just letting the system becomes corrupt and you are worth to become being scammed.









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August 06, 2021, 02:44:03 PM
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Fixed matches are a great problem within the industry, many people like you used to believe that things like this do not really happen, but they do, and there have been huge scandals because it has happened on some of the most popular leagues around the world and some of the most important games, so it is to be expected that fixing a friendly match is way easier than in any other match because nothing is at stake, and if a team underperforms then no one is going to care about it because there is a justification for it as the players are not giving their 100%.
Yes, fixing matches is true and happening in foot ball, but also some people have taken the chance to scam people that like easy things, scammers will just predict one or two matches with big odds like 4 or 5 odds or more, they will sell it to their victims saying the matches are fixed but not fixed and the victim will lose the bets. But back to the main point, both friendly and small matches can be fixed, that is why I prefer going for big matches like leagues, cups and campaigns league which I know they are not fixed.
actually those victims of this kind of scam are deserving to their situation because they are also cheaters , imagine wanna buy a  fixed match just to win instantly ? so these scammers are making money against their own buddies in which cheaters.

sports betting is one of the most colorful and worth a bet in gambling and if you add this kind of behavior then you are just letting the system becomes corrupt and you are worth to become being scammed.

Well said, and there's no fun in sports betting if you know the outcome, yes, you can make easy money but you are corrupt just like those players who are rigging games for their personal interest. I wish the authorities will be more strict with their policies, those who are caught doing this should be sanction with the maximum penalty.

I always hear the words "sports rigging", but there are only few who are sanctioned for this corrupt practice.

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August 06, 2021, 04:21:54 PM
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As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.
You are not wrong on what you are mentioning however the fact that both teams are not giving their all when they are facing each other is a problem, after all if a team is not committed at all to win the game while the other tries harder then that gives the second team a great advantage over the first one just by the desire and the effort they are wiling to put to get the win even if the quality of their players was lower, this makes it almost impossible to tell if the odds the casino is giving are good or not.

In friendly matches, teams usually do not use all their core players, because friendly matches do not have a target to win. This is what makes
the final outcome of the game even more difficult to predict, like you said the two teams playing a friendly match will not give everything.
Because they play without a burden, and that makes it quite risky in my opinion betting on friendly matches. My advice to avoid gambling on
friendly matches.

That is not entirely true because again taking up my example from before, if Manchester City plays against a team from the second or third league in England, even that friendly match is a huge highlight for the massive underdog and they might play as intensive as if it was an FA cup game. Everybody of the underdog team wants to present himself in the best shape possible. Perhaps City pays attention and gets interested. The top teams don't play to their full abilities because it is really just a test for them and nothing more.
I support what you said about the underdog putting their full ability in a friendly match game cause they need to convince their manager they are capable of playing in an upcoming match and like I said earlier, it all depends on the two teams involved motivate because we have a situation where the top teams also up in their best because the top eleven is yet to be selected just like we see during some country prepare for the World Cup.

Friendly matches right before a World Cup are very often of poor quality. The difference I pointed out is referring to something else in friendly matches between teams of different league levels. When a team from a lower league plays against a team of the top national league, it is not just a friendly match for the underdog. It could even be a once in a lifetime game. Imagine you are third league in England and play a friendly match against Manchester city. That game means a lot to you, there is a lot of intrinsic motivation involved. While the players of Manchester City, even if they have to prove themselves, won't consider that game as important because there is only so much you can prove against a third league team as a first league player.
Maybe your expectation are high about the friendly matches played before the World Cup or it is because you watch the game between countries with poor football experience because the World Cup friendly I know is not of poor quality.

Regarding a lower class team playing a friendly match against the upper class, the match won't be much important for the upper class but that doesn't mean they won't put in their best because they have a reputation to protect and it is not always about the money.

Take Germany as an example. Apart from the last EURO and the last World Cup, all the tournaments before they finished well. What about during the friendly matches they played right in advance of those tournaments? They were so bad that everyone was afraid they would lose at the group stage at those tournaments already. Most friendly matches are indeed bad quality.

Bayern Munich has lost three first friendly matches now, what does that tell us?

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August 06, 2021, 09:50:44 PM
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Take Germany as an example. Apart from the last EURO and the last World Cup, all the tournaments before they finished well. What about during the friendly matches they played right in advance of those tournaments? They were so bad that everyone was afraid they would lose at the group stage at those tournaments already. Most friendly matches are indeed bad quality.

Bayern Munich has lost three first friendly matches now, what does that tell us?

Here you are absolutely right, it reminds me of a day when Venezuela beat Brazil in a friendly match, because Brazil was not with its star players, but according to the coaches of Venezuela it helped them to determine the level that Brazil had for that At the moment, and in the qualifying rounds for the World Cup it was useless, because obviously Brazil beat Venezuela by a great advantage, impossible to achieve, so friendly football matches do not represent the real football level in themselves, despite the fact that the rivalry continues to be the same, but taking care since they do not want the players to get injured either.

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August 07, 2021, 10:58:36 PM
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Take Germany as an example. Apart from the last EURO and the last World Cup, all the tournaments before they finished well. What about during the friendly matches they played right in advance of those tournaments? They were so bad that everyone was afraid they would lose at the group stage at those tournaments already. Most friendly matches are indeed bad quality.

Bayern Munich has lost three first friendly matches now, what does that tell us?

Here you are absolutely right, it reminds me of a day when Venezuela beat Brazil in a friendly match, because Brazil was not with its star players, but according to the coaches of Venezuela it helped them to determine the level that Brazil had for that At the moment, and in the qualifying rounds for the World Cup it was useless, because obviously Brazil beat Venezuela by a great advantage, impossible to achieve, so friendly football matches do not represent the real football level in themselves, despite the fact that the rivalry continues to be the same, but taking care since they do not want the players to get injured either.


I think that even though every player strives to give their best even in friendly matches to make sure they will be considered for those big tournaments, they all know that an injury would mean an instant end to their dreams. I was a soccer player myself and you are more careful if there is a game where there is pretty much nothing at stake and a week later you have an extremely important game. Sure, you don't play like the last loser on purpose, but you are more careful definitely. That takes away a lot of the dynamics we are usually used to see when full pros play against each other. At the same time you may see some beautiful goals here and there in the friendly matches because players are willing to try stuff and take more risk from outside the box and stuff.

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August 08, 2021, 12:06:25 AM
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Maybe your expectation are high about the friendly matches played before the World Cup or it is because you watch the game between countries with poor football experience because the World Cup friendly I know is not of poor quality.

Regarding a lower class team playing a friendly match against the upper class, the match won't be much important for the upper class but that doesn't mean they won't put in their best because they have a reputation to protect and it is not always about the money.

Take Germany as an example. Apart from the last EURO and the last World Cup, all the tournaments before they finished well. What about during the friendly matches they played right in advance of those tournaments? They were so bad that everyone was afraid they would lose at the group stage at those tournaments already. Most friendly matches are indeed bad quality.

Bayern Munich has lost three first friendly matches now, what does that tell us?
I remember the game you use as an example and as I said before, it is your duty as a gambler to understand the motivating sides and also check their historical data just like we do in crypto trading. This is what I used to predict the winning of the ongoing Olympic boxing game final where I predicted Galal Yafai as the winner when others thought Carlo Paalam will win, guess what? Galal won.

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August 08, 2021, 05:36:03 AM
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To be honest friendship is full of expectations but it makes things worse. I take him as a friend and keep thinking of him as a business partner our friendship has always been good I hoped that this relationship would benefit not only me but also zimbabwean cricket that's why I was so interested she even gave him information by accepting a lot of benefits because of the friendly relationship. But later friendly matches make gambling worse everything fails before the end.
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To be honest friendship is full of expectations but it makes things worse. I take him as a friend and keep thinking of him as a business partner our friendship has always been good I hoped that this relationship would benefit not only me but also zimbabwean cricket that's why I was so interested she even gave him information by accepting a lot of benefits because of the friendly relationship. But later friendly matches make gambling worse everything fails before the end.
I don't understand about you considering a club or team as friends? Also, the friendly match is not about you fighting him. But if you consider a club or team as a business partner, then I think you become part of the staff that is within the club, maybe. I guess you think the friendly match is your match with him or something, or how can you think of a club or team as a business partner?

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I remember the game you use as an example and as I said before, it is your duty as a gambler to understand the motivating sides and also check their historical data just like we do in crypto trading. This is what I used to predict the winning of the ongoing Olympic boxing game final where I predicted Galal Yafai as the winner when others thought Carlo Paalam will win, guess what? Galal won.
off topic: Paalam beats the defending gold medalist and the homegrown fighter, both are very crucial for him but he made it to the final fight though he loss it's  a great pride.

Back to the topic, it's you as gamblers who really needs to take time assessing what are the possibilities, the outcome is mostly different from any regular matches, but if you look into previous stats you'll get some good information that can lead you to the right path in choosing your bets in a particular friendly matches.

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Back to the topic, it's you as gamblers who really needs to take time assessing what are the possibilities, the outcome is mostly different from any regular matches, but if you look into previous stats you'll get some good information that can lead you to the right path in choosing your bets in a particular friendly matches.

Still, friendlies are a "thing in themselves" and have little to do with serious competition.
A small example of how weakly friendly matches have to the real strength of a team: Spartak Moscow.
Before the season, Spartak had an impressive series of victories in friendly matches which he won with a total score of 21-1. After the season began, Spartak has a 0-2 defeat at home in the Champions League. One victory in the national championship and two defeats.
I was very lucky that, being inspired by the pre-season successes of Spartak, I refrained from betting on matches with its participation  Grin

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August 08, 2021, 07:00:23 PM
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I remember the game you use as an example and as I said before, it is your duty as a gambler to understand the motivating sides and also check their historical data just like we do in crypto trading. This is what I used to predict the winning of the ongoing Olympic boxing game final where I predicted Galal Yafai as the winner when others thought Carlo Paalam will win, guess what? Galal won.
off topic: Paalam beats the defending gold medalist and the homegrown fighter, both are very crucial for him but he made it to the final fight though he loss it's  a great pride.
Yes, it is a great pride for Paalam and I can see a lot of Phillippines that's on the forum been optimistic about him been raise from nothing fame through this Olympic game.
 
Back to the topic, it's you as gamblers who really needs to take time assessing what are the possibilities, the outcome is mostly different from any regular matches, but if you look into previous stats you'll get some good information that can lead you to the right path in choosing your bets in a particular friendly matches.
Thats correct and that's the reason why I like sports betting but the current stats can also provide misinformation though and this is the reason the motive and the preparation of the fighters need to use to make the prediction.

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August 10, 2021, 05:30:56 PM
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Fixed matches are a great problem within the industry, many people like you used to believe that things like this do not really happen, but they do, and there have been huge scandals because it has happened on some of the most popular leagues around the world and some of the most important games, so it is to be expected that fixing a friendly match is way easier than in any other match because nothing is at stake, and if a team underperforms then no one is going to care about it because there is a justification for it as the players are not giving their 100%.
Yes, fixing matches is true and happening in foot ball, but also some people have taken the chance to scam people that like easy things, scammers will just predict one or two matches with big odds like 4 or 5 odds or more, they will sell it to their victims saying the matches are fixed but not fixed and the victim will lose the bets. But back to the main point, both friendly and small matches can be fixed, that is why I prefer going for big matches like leagues, cups and campaigns league which I know they are not fixed.
What you are speaking of is very common in the world of boxing, before the pandemic I really liked to go and see the potential new stars on the world boxing when they are just starting their careers, and it is very common that you are going to receive a tip from someone that you do not know that a certain fight is fixed and that you should bet on it, but obviously this doesn't make sense, someone that knows that a fight is fixed will never share that information with anyone so they are trying to scam you.

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August 10, 2021, 06:56:19 PM
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The most common friendly matches are both the international  country and club friendlies, long time ago I have seen these type of matches as a way to bet and have fun, many of my betting result are positive most especially if I bet on a single match. The country or club that will win is not certain but I noticed staking on over 1.5 or over 2.5 is always most of the time results to a good outcome.

I am not saying this is a risk free bet, no bet is risk free, but I noticed this type of match most of the time results to many goals scored which makes better for taking over 1.5 or over 2.5 and the games are won.

Some people still like to accumulate, the accumulation can also be positive and won but the more the accumulation the more the high chances of losing. But I do not still see any wrong in accumulating 3 matches, though the chances to lose will increase because as one match lost result to the nullification of the bet, I prefer just a single game in a week.

What do you think about staking on over 1.5 and over 2.5 on international friendlies (both country and club friendlies)? Or do you prefer to go for straight win or draw?
Honestly, i wouldn't spend my money betting on friendly matches, i don't think friendly matches have high intensity and chances are in that game the players will not play the match well, and both teams usually only field their reserve squad or young players in friendly matches to test their performance before the league takes place, after all both teams will play quite carefully and don't want to risk their players getting injured and that's why so far I have never bet on friendly matches, because in my opinion those matches are just entertainment and without there is a high fighting power for a team to win the match.

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August 22, 2021, 07:57:18 PM
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The most common friendly matches are both the international  country and club friendlies, long time ago I have seen these type of matches as a way to bet and have fun, many of my betting result are positive most especially if I bet on a single match. The country or club that will win is not certain but I noticed staking on over 1.5 or over 2.5 is always most of the time results to a good outcome.

I am not saying this is a risk free bet, no bet is risk free, but I noticed this type of match most of the time results to many goals scored which makes better for taking over 1.5 or over 2.5 and the games are won.

Some people still like to accumulate, the accumulation can also be positive and won but the more the accumulation the more the high chances of losing. But I do not still see any wrong in accumulating 3 matches, though the chances to lose will increase because as one match lost result to the nullification of the bet, I prefer just a single game in a week.

What do you think about staking on over 1.5 and over 2.5 on international friendlies (both country and club friendlies)? Or do you prefer to go for straight win or draw?
Honestly, i wouldn't spend my money betting on friendly matches, i don't think friendly matches have high intensity and chances are in that game the players will not play the match well, and both teams usually only field their reserve squad or young players in friendly matches to test their performance before the league takes place, after all both teams will play quite carefully and don't want to risk their players getting injured and that's why so far I have never bet on friendly matches, because in my opinion those matches are just entertainment and without there is a high fighting power for a team to win the match.


I have even seen many betting on even friendly matches. When there were tournaments, yes, many used to bet on which team will win. Many have been much happier with what they won betting on the correct team. Even teams which were not up to the mark, have won and made people trust on them to bet more on upcoming tournaments. Its everywhere man. Those who have opportunity to gamble, they do gamble and those who are just exposed to betting on matches where they can, they do bet so.  As long as its entertaining and thrilling yes, nothing wrong in it so.

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August 22, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
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I have even seen many betting on even friendly matches. When there were tournaments, yes, many used to bet on which team will win. Many have been much happier with what they won betting on the correct team. Even teams which were not up to the mark, have won and made people trust on them to bet more on upcoming tournaments. Its everywhere man. Those who have opportunity to gamble, they do gamble and those who are just exposed to betting on matches where they can, they do bet so.  As long as its entertaining and thrilling yes, nothing wrong in it so.

That's how gamblers be like, in every opportunity to place their bets, they will come and bet on it, even friendly matches. They will take part in it and try to win.

Not just by predicting which team will win but also those available odds that they knew, they will take advantage in hope to win decently.

No wrong with that, as there are many exposed gamblers on whatever sides of sport betting who will continue to support and find
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August 22, 2021, 09:24:51 PM
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I think there is a big different between betting on club friendly matches and national team friendlies.

Club friendlies are mostly played during the off-season, like the summer friendlies that just passed and were played throughout July and August. Those matches are played while the teams are in preparation mode and the players aren't in their competitive rhythm yet. New players arrive at clubs, and club friendlies are the time when their abilities and strengths are put to the test. The players usually don't have the strength for a 90 minutes match, so you often see the entire team being substituted at half time or around the one hour mark. Wagering  a lot of money on the favorites in such matches could be dangerous. The pre-season friendlies are also the time to test youth players to figure out which of them will stay at the club, who will be sold, or send out on loan.

International friendlies are different. They are played during the on-going football season. The players are already in good physical shape and their club competitions are in progress. There aren't that many international friendlies due to limited availability of players, so the national teams can't experiment a lot, and they tend to bring out a strong squad. The favorites will usually play to win, and it makes much more sense to wager money on this type of games.   

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