Are you a healthy unvaccinated person?

[Jet Cash]

Then you should stay that way, and resist enforced vaccination. We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning. A large reference group of healthy unvaccinated peope will provide evidence for the claims by those crippled by untested vaccination. It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.

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[franky1]

you gotta laugh

a 70yo man saying he is avoiding a vaccine because be beleives he will be the clean specimen of proof in the future that the unvacinnated dont have...
'affects that have altered the ovaries of menstruating women'

yes he thinks that mrna change the genetics of menstruating woman..
..
firstly it doesnt
secondly he is a man
thirdly he is over 70

so he is not really prime candidate of non-vaccine speciman that will be used as proof that those without vaccine have perfectly healthy ovaries

..
as for any direct or even indirect proof of a link between vaccines and autistic kids..

well there is only this ..
austism is pretty much caused by family planning of having kids when parents are outside their prime fertile age.

the prime age being 16-36
under-age or over-age parenting..

. now how is this linked to vaccines
well pre-vaccine era of 1900's peoples life expectancy was 50. so at 40 they were planning retirement not family.
this 50yo average life expectancy was due to virus and disease,.

then vaccines came around. helping people live longer. upto 82yo life expectancy..
but then people in their 40's no longer able to retire..  decided to start having kids. but their sexual reproduction though is not in its prime. yea silly old nature.. not evolving the reproductive system

so they have kids, with a higher risk of defects due to having kids beyond their prime sexual reproductive systems age

and now people think its due to vaccines.
nope its due to people. thinking they can have kids even in their 40's-50's-60's

..
and the punchline is
jetcash saved off having vaccines with the hope that it will keep his sperm clean.. so he can have kids later in life... reality is waiting 70 years to lose his virginity most certainly will mean his offspring will have defects like autism..
because all along it was a age issue causing defects. not vaccines
yep he stayed clean and pure for so many years, just to find out waiting so long will be his flaw of why his kids will have defects

[OgNasty]

I'd like to think of myself as a healthy person (physically anyway, mentally may be up for debate on this forum).  Certainly I don't consider myself to be in the bottom 0.1% of healthy individuals that would be at risk of death from Covid.  I feel like for the sake of humanity and not becoming a helpless species dependent on science and medical intervention to keep from going extinct, I should probably stay natural in my fight against this Covid foe.  If I die, I die.  It's not like I have any disillusions about the fact that I am going to die.  I'd always hoped I'd die from getting eaten by sharks on vacation or saving a helpless child/animal from death, but we can't all have an awesome end to our story.  I'm willing to risk the awesome end of mine in order to do what I believe in. 

Quoting the late Earl Simmons, "I stand for what I believe in. Even if what I believe in stops me from breathing."

[BADecker]

I'd like to think of myself as a healthy person (physically anyway, mentally may be up for debate on this forum).  Certainly I don't consider myself to be in the bottom 0.1% of healthy individuals that would be at risk of death from Covid.  I feel like for the sake of humanity and not becoming a helpless species dependent on science and medical intervention to keep from going extinct, I should probably stay natural in my fight against this Covid foe.  If I die, I die.  It's not like I have any disillusions about the fact that I am going to die.  I'd always hoped I'd die from getting eaten by sharks on vacation or saving a helpless child/animal from death, but we can't all have an awesome end to our story.  I'm willing to risk the awesome end of mine in order to do what I believe in. 

Quoting the late Earl Simmons, "I stand for what I believe in. Even if what I believe in stops me from breathing."

The grave lets you stand in a horizontal position.     

[Twinkledoe]

I consider myself as a healthy unvaccinated person. But I am not yet in the priority list here in my country, the reason why I am still unvaccinated. But the problem lies when you need to go to other country or region, where they are mandatory requiring to accept only vaccinated individuals. If you have no plans to go outside, maybe no need to get the shot, but if you see yourself traveling anytime soon. Better get the shot because you may find some bottlenecks along the way. The discrimination maybe real if you are not yet vaccinated.

[Poker Player]

It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.

Give me the example of a drug that you inject today and the side effects appear years from now.

Half a year ago you were also saying that there were too many people dying in the short term from the vaccine:

I see one person posted that the vaccines haven't been around long enough to comment. Well, if someone dies within 5 minutes or a few days, then one case could be a coincidence, but there are too many people dying shortly after vaccination for it not to be a contributing factor.  

Good thing you edited original the message.

You're not the only one, by the way. The people who were saying people were going to die by the millions in the short term from the vaccine have moved on to saying they are going to die within 5 years.

[arielbit]

https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/vaccine-basics/index.html

The smallpox vaccine protects people from smallpox by helping their bodies develop immunity to smallpox. The vaccine is made from a virus called vaccinia, which is a poxvirus similar to smallpox, but less harmful.

applying this logic, your immune system already encountered quite a lot of corona viruses not to mention your ancestors.

you are built for this thing (covid).

so Cnut237 cut the smallpox crap and get a hold of your nuts because they are falling  

Sorry, I can't see that you're applying any logic. Football pitches and dollar bills are both rectangles - are they the same thing? Are they interchangeable? SARS-CoV-2 is not the common cold. Humans aren't gorillas.

there..enlarged the text..are you okay? must be the vaxx LOL

gonna put this here...whoever starts telling you that covid19 is a "novel" virus...

here is the thing..any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel" to it (be it a few seconds old or a 1000 years old)....guess what? you have encountered a lot of corona viruses in your life time.

how about the kids? well they are protected by their larger thymus gland compared to adults  

now..chicken shits government ass licking idiots take your 12.5 teaspoons of sugar today/everyday (FDA approved) and keep lying to yourselves LOL    

[Cnut237]

We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning.

There will certainly be a financial reckoning from the bailouts, yes, this is unavoidable.
But you will need to show some evidence for "the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health" - because this statement is in opposition to available data. You can't just make a statement that goes against the evidence, and expect people to believe it.

gonna put this here...whoever starts telling you that covid19 is a "novel" virus...
here is the thing..any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"....guess what? you have encountered a lot of corona viruses in your life time.

"any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"" ... Don't be silly. I'm not sure whether you are trolling or whether you genuinely don't understand. I will humour you, and explain. Yes, every virus you have not encountered before is new to you... but that's not really the point, is it? One reason that this novel coronavirus has caused such chaos is that it spreads so easily amongst the population. This is because no-one has any initial immunity. You may wish to consider the historic example of the conquistadors bringing new diseases to the Americas, and nearly wiping out the native population - who had no pre-existing immunity.

One common issue with anti-vaxxers is selfishness; they say they are fit and healthy and don't need the vaccine. This overlooks the fact that the purpose of the vaccine is not merely to protect yourself, but to help to protect everyone. Given your previous posts, I am not at all surprised that you are considering the word "novel" to refer to yourself rather than to the whole population.

[arielbit]

gonna put this here...whoever starts telling you that covid19 is a "novel" virus...
here is the thing..any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"....guess what? you have encountered a lot of corona viruses in your life time.

"any virus that your body has not encountered yet is "novel"" ... Don't be silly. I'm not sure whether you are trolling or whether you genuinely don't understand. I will humour you, and explain. Yes, every virus you have not encountered before is new to you... but that's not really the point, is it? One reason that this novel coronavirus has caused such chaos is that it spreads so easily amongst the population. This is because no-one has any initial immunity. You may wish to consider the historic example of the conquistadors bringing new diseases to the Americas, and nearly wiping out the native population - who had no pre-existing immunity.

One common issue with anti-vaxxers is selfishness; they say they are fit and healthy and don't need the vaccine. This overlooks the fact that the purpose of the vaccine is not merely to protect yourself, but to help to protect everyone. Given your previous posts, I am not at all surprised that you are considering the word "novel" to refer to yourself rather than to the whole population.

have you ingested 12.5 teaspoons of sugar today? if not, you have no right to tell people to put something in their body today..

want more sugar in your body? LOL

Thus, most of the archaeological and biological evidence suggests that the staple food for the Maya was maize.

your argument is a double edge sword. what do you want to be, the mayans or the spaniards?

i protect people by encouraging them to become more healthy and not by injecting something in my body. my body my choice fuck you and the rest that is like you.

[tvbcof]

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One common issue with anti-vaxxers is selfishness; they say they are fit and healthy and don't need the vaccine. This overlooks the fact that the purpose of the vaccine is not merely to protect yourself, but to help to protect everyone. Given your previous posts, I am not at all surprised that you are considering the word "novel" to refer to yourself rather than to the whole population.

Actually, it is you is you creeps who want everyone else to take an experimental gene therapy treatment risk with no support if they get sick just so _you_ feel safe.

The worst are the teachers who want kids, who basically cannot even get 'covid', to wear masks and spend many hours per day with damaging levels of CO2 only so they feel more safe.  It's not only an idiotic fall sense of false security, but it is the most cowardly shifting of risk to innocent people who cannot fight back.

Nurses in the hospitals are just as bad.  Giving highly sub-standard care which in the case of mis-used ventilators which kill 99% of the victims just so they don't get a germ.  Some of them even routed IV tubes out of the rooms and let the people die completely alone while they killed time making tik-toc vids.  These shameful people were in the wrong fuckin' business.

[Jet Cash]

You could argue that the Corona Virus is a novel one because it is man made, and because it incorporates a RNA string which was added by gain-of-function technology to make it more infectious to humans.

You may like to reflect on the reason that governments are insisting that a largely untested vaccine is being promoted when it is manifestly causing death and paralysis. All this informatiion is being suppressed, and that is why people  are not aware of the true facts. However, the information is available if you move away from main stream media, and  look at the scientific reports. Many virologists state that a vaccine shoukd not be given during a pandemic, and certainly not to people who are infected. It is not a cure, but is intended to be a preventative measure that stimulates the immune system.

Reports are only just stsrting to appear that confirm that natural immunity is superior to vaccination in healthy individuals. The real "pandemic" is insulin resistance, and discussions about this are starting to appearf at last. My hope is that I can encourage a few people to try to improve their health through natural processes, and free themselves from the tyranny and slavery resulting from pharmaceutical dependency.

There is more to it than just the issues of abrogating your health. There are the issues of apps and other spyware on your phones and computers, tracking of your movements, new programmab le currency to replace the failed fiat currencies, and many other issues. You don't have to opt out of society to cope with the issues, but you do need to be aware of them, and be able to control your physical, mental and financial health.

[Cnut237]

it is man made, and because it incorporates a RNA string which was added by gain-of-function technology to make it more infectious to humans.

This is speculation. You can't state it as fact. Whilst we can't 100% rule out a lab leak, and whilst Chinese government secrecy hampers any investigation, the data still suggest quite strongly a natural origin.

largely untested vaccine is being promoted when it is manifestly causing death and paralysis.

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Again, this is baseless speculation, and flies in the face of the evidence.

All this informatiion is being suppressed, and that is why people  are not aware of the true facts.

Either being suppressed, or doesn't exist. One or the other.
Of course with something of this scale, there will always be a few individual medical professionals, a few individual cases, that can be used to suggest anything. But there are also huge, publicly available datasets from all around the world.

Reports are only just stsrting to appear that confirm that natural immunity is superior to vaccination in healthy individuals.

Natural immunity is great if you can get it. The problem is that you get it by contracting a potentially fatal virus. Taking the vaccine is far safer.

The real "pandemic" is insulin resistance, and discussions about this are starting to appearf at last. My hope is that I can encourage a few people to try to improve their health through natural processes, and free themselves from the tyranny and slavery resulting from pharmaceutical dependency.

Insulin resistance and more generally metabolic syndrome are certainly areas of concern, and certainly poor dietary choices and sedentary lifestyles play a role. Yes, it is always a good idea to improve your health through natural processes... but this isn't a panacea, and doesn't make you immune to everything. Vaccination is still the best route to protection against Covid.

apps and other spyware on your phones and computers, tracking of your movements, new programmab le currency to replace the failed fiat currencies

Again, yes, these are all areas of concern... but again, as the data demonstrate, vaccination is still the best route to protection against Covid. Spyware and location tracking have zero relation to vaccine efficacy.

[Jet Cash]

Covid is not a zoonotic virus - so far they have not been able to find an animal that can be infected by it.

The added RNA string is not a natural evolution, and its creation is exactly why gain-of-function research was being funded.

You get natural immunity by exposure to the pathogens that arer part of our world. Corona Viruses are only deadly if you have a messed up immune system. The primary function of a virus is to replicate, and it can't do that if it kills the animals it infects. That is why the most successful viruses are the least deadly, and natural evolution makes them less of a risk to their chosen hosts.

Claims by the vaccine makers indicate  that it is only 50-80% effective, but they don't qualify this. If it was 100% effective, then they wouldn't care about non-vaccinated peope. Viruses are smart, and they evolve quickly, using extract of moth lava is not a part of the natural evolution of viruses, and will lead to some unusual variants.

Side effect from the vaccines have not been tested for long term damage. For example, it is know that the spike protein in a vaccine can escape from the muscle tissue, and it collects in various organs - a woman's ovaries is one of them. It is not known what effect this will have of future offspring, and it is one reason why a couple of viriologists are suggesting that women should not be vaccinated.

Remember, I am not a doctor, and I have no medical training, I am just an observer of life, and I have an interest in preserving a long and healthy life for myself.

[Cnut237]

Covid is not a zoonotic virus - so far they have not been able to find an animal that can be infected by it.

You can't use absence of evidence as evidence. There may be no smoking pangolin (can't get that image out of my head)... but I could equally well say: Covid was not developed in a lab, because we haven't found a lab that developed it.

Corona Viruses are only deadly if you have a messed up immune system.

SARS? MERS?

The primary function of a virus is to replicate, and it can't do that if it kills the animals it infects. That is why the most successful viruses are the least deadly, and natural evolution makes them less of a risk to their chosen hosts.

Yes, agreed. But this is not relevant to the vaccine, or to the novel coronavirus that emerged at the end of 2019.

Claims by the vaccine makers indicate  that it is only 50-80% effective, but they don't qualify this.

Pfizer and Moderna are ~95%, AZ is ~90%

If it was 100% effective, then they wouldn't care about non-vaccinated peope.

Not true. We can't instantly vaccinate everyone in the world who wants it. There are many people who want to be vaccinated, but are still waiting, and being put at increased risk by anti-vaxxers spreading the virus.

Side effect from the vaccines have not been tested for long term damage.

The vaccines are new. Nothing that is new can have known long-term implications. But this doesn't mean that everything that is new is bad.

Remember, I am not a doctor, and I have no medical training, I am just an observer of life, and I have an interest in preserving a long and healthy life for myself.

Thanks for admitting you're not an expert. I'm not an expert either, but obviously have a different point of view to you. I want everyone to have long and healthy lives. Your frequent advice on diet and healthy lifestyle is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I also agree that over-medication can be an issue, due in part to healthcare being provided with a profit motive. But vaccines save lives.

[Alfreed]

yes, I am a healthy unvaccinated person. I believe that vaccination is not necessary for a healthy person, since the body is able to cope with the disease itself, and the vaccine is deadly for the patient because his immunity cannot cope with the disease. watch your health, eat right and play sports and everything will be fine with you. bless you guys

[sapnu]

Then you should stay that way, and resist enforced vaccination. We are starting to see the damage that vaccination is doing to the nation's health, and at some point there will be a financial reckoning. A large reference group of healthy unvaccinated peope will provide evidence for the claims by those crippled by untested vaccination. It may take years for all the side effects to become apparent.

It is also quite alarming how the government is manipulating everyone to get vaccinated even if it is against their will. There are plans wherein only the vaccinated ones will be allowed to go outside and for me, they just became untrue to their words about saying that getting the vaccine is voluntary. As of now, I consider myself as a healthy unvaccinated individual. It just makes it hard to be convincing that a certain illness that recently showed up has a vaccine already yet there are a lot of diseases wherein a cure nor a vaccinated wasn't made yet. Who knows what detrimental effect the vaccine might give to people as years goes by.

[Jet Cash]

It seems to be  pretty much accepted that the virus was created using American funded gain-of-function technology.

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years, and they failed to protect against SARS or MERS. No information has beenb released as to why they failed, or what their side effects were. It is an interesting coincidence that they have arrived just in time to save us from this man made virus.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Jet Cash, just wanted to raise me hand. I’m mid 30’s & unvaccinated against COVID. I’m not an anti vaxxer, I had all the normal ones as a kid. I’m just not willing to put a largely untested cocktail of who knows what into my body.

I’m pretty sure I’ve had COVID twice any way. In Jan/Feb 2020 I had a really bad cough & my voice was very hoarse for months. I was actually coughing up blood at one point because the dry cough was so harsh.

I had it for a second time (confirmed) with very few symptoms, I had to have a test due to attending a sports event & the test was positive but I literally only had a cold that time.

Any way, I’ve broken just about every lockdown rule throughout the entire pandemic & I’m here to tell the tale.

[franky1]

You could argue that the Corona Virus is a novel one because it is man made, and because it incorporates a RNA string which was added by gain-of-function technology to make it more infectious to humans.

It seems to be  pretty much accepted that the virus was created using American funded gain-of-function technology.

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years, and they failed to protect against SARS or MERS. No information has beenb released as to why they failed, or what their side effects were. It is an interesting coincidence that they have arrived just in time to save us from this man made virus.

wrong for many reasons but lets pick the top 2.

1. man made
- hundreds of thousands of studies have seen the virus sequence. they know it so well and compared it that they can also see the natural wild changes as it mutates in public. they can see the variances of symptomology to know which strains are of significance..

but most importantly. they can look at the alpha sequence and see that it still has palindromes and introns
(2 things that disapear when editing in a lab)
it also lacks indels(sequences added when editing in a lab)
thus no editing had occured..

2, gain of function
-the much publicised NIH-WUHAN research. was not gain of function.. it was infact decrease of function. without using any gene editing..
taking older viruses like the older sars. and actually attenuating them down.

in short they turned down the lab temperature and let it incubate at near freezing. thus slowing down the replication rate. and while the virus learned to survive at lower temperatures.. meant it didnt like higher temperatures like body heat

and so would not replicate in body heat scenarios..

this is not gain of function. this was loss of function study.
no gene editing. no covid sequence. no splicing

the sequence used in the NIH-WUHAN study was not even the same lineage as what covid was.
there is no lineage associated virus in wuhan that can explain covid existance

but here is the thing. though loss of function virus is a good candidate for a vaccine.. guess what. loss of function then becomes a poor candidate as a mass produced vaccine for the world.

3. mRNA lack of research
there is massive amount of studies. the lack is in jetcash.. HIM lacking to research the research.
mRNA breaks down in a couple of days.
mRNA creates protiens. lacks the length of code to do the more complex taska of gene editing/replicating
the protein it creates appears on the cell that created it(its not blasted into the bloodstream)
the protein breaks down in a few weeks if not handled already by your immune system earlier

[Xinarae*]

MRNA vaccines contain ingredients from the virus that produce covid-19 that instruct our cells on the way to make a dull protein that's unique to the virus after our cells replicate the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies understand that the protein shouldn't be there and will be made in order that if we become infected within the future it's impossible for it to evolve into an epidemic for infectious infections and every of the remainder is building its own system.