Poker casino but need KYC, is this really necessary?

[$crypto$]

This is becoming a lot of problems nowadays because as crypto gamblers of course our identity wants to remain anonymous without anyone knowing it, therefore I always see from the website how they implement their system of terms and conditions so from before there was a friend who offered a new poker site moreover I don't know of course I'll check it all out.

There are still pros and cons and I also want to remain anonymous without providing any identity when making withdrawals therefore all this will be a problem and we don't know what to do with our data and I think I will avoid it if it's a new site I know.

What I know is that many platforms in the forum about poker games do not need to do KYC.

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[Fesatmas]

Are there no other gambling sites that make money without having to KYC at the time of withdrawal?
In any case when it comes to identity I will avoid it, even if they have to give up some money. what i said sounded selfish? for me identity is the main thing, and for the sake of avoiding crime in the future. We are afraid that our data will actually be very much more dangerous, it could be that the data is sold and used for things that are criminal in nature, you will be sought by the authorities then the cost of mitigating the sentence will be much more expensive than what we take from the site. Rather than just an amount of money that will run out, identity remains the main choice.

[tulusikhlas]

It is very difficult when faced with this kind of choice. I am frequently asked by some friends who are still gambling on sites that ask you to require KYC. Maybe some people will choose to do it, because there you have the money you have to get. And so far, gambling sites that use crypto don't really require us to KYC. simply register using your email or phone number, you are free to gamble with any bet. Then at the time of withdrawal you do not need to do KYC.

[Darker45]

I definitely am not a fan of KYC but I am not avoiding it like a plague either. I mean, if I have the option to avoid KYC or use an alternative which does not require KYC, I'd prefer it. But if there is no other option, I might comply. The exact thing I did with centralized exchanges.

Surely, however, this is definitely not the only platform which offers poker with crypto. So I guess there is no reason for you to stick to it. Go find another one. There's probably a handful of other options for you.

[ChuckBuck]

So, I just heard that certain sites that win poker games have to go through KYC, personal data (identity), this is worth asking what KYC is for....while at the beginning of the registration process, the requirements have been passed, Supposedly when you win poker, you are free in all dealings/withdrawals, without KYC.

With regular casinos I find that they only do KYC on winners who have too much money or hit their trading limit, with withdrawals at tens or hundreds of dollars, I rarely see casinos who need KYC.

The situation seems subjective since it's hard to judge a gambling site that you've played for a day but at the same time I guess it depends on how you view the poker site

ya, I get it. Evaluating a platform for the first time is not a good idea, i just wonder why they ask for KYC when i want to start with them

Back to gambling and crypto, it's entirely up to you whether you want it or not tbh, the casino isn't exactly forcing you, but don't expect to actually play on it. I reckon there are other casinos out there that don't require KYC, but as @YOSHIE said, they may ask for it later on in the game, which is kind of worse imo than asking it from the very start.

Oh, this sounds reasonable, the plus for this is that they require KYC for us to decide whether to continue or stop, it sucks when you win big and the casino starts asking for KYC, it must be more annoying

You did not name the gambling site I hope you will name it, you're not promoting the site it's for awareness purposes so we'll know if we are already playing on this site or planning to register and play, doing KYC in a gambling site depends on the player's preference if the site is new and there are offers that are good to be true I don't think it's worth doing KYC, you'll regret later because there's no free money in a gambling site, there's always a catch

As far as I can see, this is a new casino, they are testing their platform, and they are giving newbies a bonus, so I guess no one here has experienced it. And since it's a new casino, KYC is clearly something to consider

[adzino]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

KYC requirement has nothing to do with Poker. The casino probably requires you to complete or go through KYC because of legal reason. They country where the casino is operating or has license issued requires them to collect user information. This is because if they have no KYC requirement, people would be able to easily launder money through the casino. Lets say "A" wants to launder his money. He can play pvp poker with his accomplice "B". Lose on purpose. "B" can then say that he won those money by playing poker . You see where the issue is?

[ChuckBuck]

Let's say you have some illegal money and would like to wash it, you could sit down at poker table and just lose all the money to a buddy of yours. He will just withdraw and pay some taxes on it as legitimate poker earnings.

Your comments are really great! You gave me a new perspective that I never thought, you are really right, casinos like this can be used to launder money easily. But in reality, there are always ways to launder money, as the crypto space is the best place to do it 

Crypto casinos usually do not require KYC. However,  exceptions are there! Try to check their FAQ and T&C page and see if there is a mention of KYC requirement. If yes, then you will need to be KYC compliant in order to withdraw funds to your wallet.

Sure, it's necessary, because without KYC I wouldn't be able to withdraw money from their platform, that's what I'm wondering, they're still a brand new platform

I prefer websites with mild KYC policies

In this case, it is a bad KYC policy. They collect everything from me, including my current address, that's why I'm annoyed with it 

[Tumanggor]

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I almost never play on gambling platforms that Require KYC, although I have no problem with KYC
I know there are many issues that say that our identity is traded if we do KYC but I don't think that far

I will definitely do KYC on that gambling site if I win big there
why let the money we win stay there if we can withdraw it only with KYC

[zanezane]

I think given the advent of usage of crypto as a means to launder money, I think KYC is more important than ever, what I mean by that is that launderers can deposit large amounts of money in crypto and then play a small portion of it and then withdraw the remaining balance, it can sometimes be undetectable so it's best that there's a KYC in place to deter launderers because we like it or not and believe it or not, launderers use cryptocurrencies to launder money.

[Cling18]

There are lots of legit and trusted gambling platforms nowadays that don't require KYC. If you aren't comfortable with it then you shouldn't be playing in sites that ask KYC in the first place. You should have read their terms and conditions first. KYC is important but there are also ways for us who get rid of it especially when we want to protect our personal identity.

[Jawhead999]

what I mean by that is that launderers can deposit large amounts of money in crypto and then play a small portion of it and then withdraw the remaining balance, it can sometimes be undetectable

In theory yes, but in reality isn't. Because when you deposit large amount money and want to withdraw it, you'll need to complete KYC first since most of casino will ask KYC when their security detect large withdrawal.

However I don't think those launders are using casino for money laundering since there's a high risk you'll get caught, mostly they could use a mixer and has far better privacy.

[ChuckBuck]

I've been with some poker sites but most that I've been with doesn't require KYC like requesting for an identity card or a national card, most of them just want like email verification and nothing much even on the withdrawal process.

that's right, most of the current casinos here do not require KYC when you join and play on their platform, this is the exception so i wonder

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

i agree with your opinion, but what do you think about selling your identity for 200$ through KYC on their platform?

Since it's a gambling platform, I'd say it's not worth it ^{[money wouldn't be the only thing you'd be gambling, if you go through that KYC process]}.

me too, it's really not worth selling your identity, which can cause a lot of potential dangers later  there's so much we're dealing with doing this KYC, a KYC requires a lot of information like I mentioned

[ChuckBuck]

No offense but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.  Of all the types of sites offering games that involves money, poker sites should be the most enforced sites to KYC.  There’s a thing called ‘chip dumping’.

On the contrary, I am not really understanding what you are talking about. I am talking about crypto casinos, it has nothing to do with chips on actual casinos, so the chip dumping you talk about is not here at all 

I play regularly in ggpoker and I submitted my KYC. The KYC stuff is pretty much standard practice for most poker site right now

How long have you known it? Are you nervous when doing KYC? What information do they ask for? I think it depends on the level of KYC requirements that we can consider

I don't like and I don't do KYC.

I play for fun, not for profit, so I dont see a reason to submit my data to a site.

Nothing special, I just love this answer

[jostorres]

This is becoming a lot of problems nowadays because as crypto gamblers of course our identity wants to remain anonymous without anyone knowing it, therefore I always see from the website how they implement their system of terms and conditions so from before there was a friend who offered a new poker site moreover I don't know of course I'll check it all out.

There are still pros and cons and I also want to remain anonymous without providing any identity when making withdrawals therefore all this will be a problem and we don't know what to do with our data and I think I will avoid it if it's a new site I know.

What I know is that many platforms in the forum about poker games do not need to do KYC.

Similarly, there are many sportsbooks that require document verification even before you register while some will not ask for documents at all. For example, I remember a site I visited something named like btb88 was asking for verification as soon as you make an account while a site like sportsbet.io doesn't ask for documents at all unless there is a dispute.

Some casinos/sportsbook take verification very seriously while some just don't ask for anything so it depends on what kind of casino you are playing at. I don't mind giving out my identity to a verified and trusted platform but I won't be doing the same to a new casino without any history.

[imstillthebest]

they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

you must use the casino's own referal link ? but they are the owner .
referal link dont work like that but moving on , it could be because of the rewards on why they require a kyc so that people cannot abuse it .
 its only up to 200 dollars and i think that was small in exchange for our identitiy but maybe there are some people that will take the risk . that was only new but we have old poker apps and they wont require a kyc  .

[haidil]

Based on this kind of case, there are 2 options that can be taken if you are in that position, namely:

First: if you agree to KYC, then you can withdraw the money but at the risk of your personal data being a second party, which can be used without you knowing it. Your withdrawn money has run out but your data will still be there and can be traded at any time.

Second: if you don't do KYC, then you lose the funds that have been collected but your personal data is safe from actions that you don't expect beyond your own control.

so you just choose !!

[bitzizzix]

I don't like KYC and if there is a gambling site that I want to use I need to use KYC I won't do it and better find one that doesn't need to use KYC, because for me identity is very important to avoid unwanted things.
and another reason because I'm not an active gambler and don't just stay on one gambling site, and besides that I play gambling just for fun and also rarely play so for me KYC is not too important.
and but if you are an active and capital gambler and are required to use it, it is your right, because of the regulations to issue KYC to account holders to ensure a safe gambling environment and to prevent fraud, money laundering, bonus abuse, underage gambling and duplicate account.

[ChuckBuck]

this is unfair

Yes, we know nothing about them, but they are wanting to know all about us. Oh no, they are not the one who knows all about us, they do KYC through a third party, who knows, what that third party will do with our information. It is bringing us back to the question, what risks does KYC pose...

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So that means, in this case, you are willing to do KYC to be able to continue to experience this platform, as well as earn some extra money for newbies in their program. Well, one option might be good for you 

I do not want to do KYC just for gambling because that is not worth doing. I am better to search for the other gambling site which does not require KYC for their members. Besides that, I do not playing gambling very often so I will skip on that site if I see they require KYC. I am not good at searching for referrals through referral links so I do not think I will still use that site.

Maybe you don't gamble very often, but what do you think about doing KYC and getting their $200 withdrawable tokens? I think it's an attractive proposition, do you think you will KYC to receive it?

[yazher]

This is a difficult question. I understand that many people want to keep their identity private on the Internet, but when money is involved criminal activities are not far. Without any regulation, online casinos can be misused fot money laundering purposes. KYC is needed to prevent that. Let's say you have some illegal money and would like to wash it, you could sit down at poker table and just lose all the money to a buddy of yours. He will just withdraw and pay some taxes on it as legitimate poker earnings.

That's as easy as possible if look at it that way and the need for KYC will be mandatory if they have this kind of hole. Money laundering would be easy in that way. as we can see, they are using this kind of trick too because they hold a huge amount of money and don't want to give some taxes to their government. Looks like when you have lots of cash you will have a big problem too. Therefor, it is necessary to have this feature when people exploiting your site for some personal purposes.

[just_Alice]

It depends on personal preferences, not everyone thinks KYC is bad. But you're right that it makes no sense: why does that casino deal with crypto and, at the same time, requires KYC from everyone? In any case, it's good that the casino was straightforward about that and it didn't came out as a total surprise when you've won a ton of money and need to withdraw (which happens A LOT).

Be careful with that $200 bonus though, read the rules carefully, it seems like too much money to just give away to every user, there might be a rollover requirement or something of the sort.