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August 01, 2021, 08:09:04 AM
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i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.
Governments will always have excuse, the gambling industry will not have option than to obey the government, government will say kyc is a means of regulation against money laundering and against terrorism and other criminals. But I have option because the crypto gambling sites that do not make verification necessary are many, I can still go for one of them rather than getting verified.

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August 03, 2021, 10:35:20 AM
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i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.
Governments will always have excuse, the gambling industry will not have option than to obey the government, government will say kyc is a means of regulation against money laundering and against terrorism and other criminals. But I have option because the crypto gambling sites that do not make verification necessary are many, I can still go for one of them rather than getting verified.
Oh well yeah, the government will always have an excuse. If something does not look like what they want, they can easily eliminate and make a new one. We already knew that and it was happening a long time ago. As long as there is a gambling site that does not require KYC, we can still play gambling without sending anything to them. I am sure the casino will be aware of the regulation and how they can still operate without the government interfering. We as a gambler also have an option to select where we want to gamble.



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August 03, 2021, 11:41:52 AM
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Before I play in any online casino I always make sure I will not be asked for KYC or personal information. If I know that a casino will be asking me to undergo KYC verification I will reject it immediately. No online casino is so special to me that I will undergo KYC for its sake.
This is only if you don't get trapped by most of the enticing bonuses that comes with new users. The bonus can actually so entice you and you even forget to consider if the online casino requires KYC verification before withdrawal and the frustrating aspect is this KYC is only applicable to withdrawals but for deposits it's always very easy and smooth.
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August 03, 2021, 12:44:36 PM
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Oh well yeah, the government will always have an excuse. If something does not look like what they want, they can easily eliminate and make a new one. We already knew that and it was happening a long time ago. As long as there is a gambling site that does not require KYC, we can still play gambling without sending anything to them. I am sure the casino will be aware of the regulation and how they can still operate without the government interfering. We as a gambler also have an option to select where we want to gamble.

I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.

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August 03, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
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I don't think that it's necessary for a poker casino unless there's no limit to how big the players can deposit in their site, I mean if it reaches around a 100k USD and above, we need to be able to track those people because we don't know if they are laundering money and it has been done a long time ago, launderers depositing money in a casino and then playing a small amount of it and then withdrawing the remaining money to make it look like they've won something big.
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August 04, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
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Oh well yeah, the government will always have an excuse. If something does not look like what they want, they can easily eliminate and make a new one. We already knew that and it was happening a long time ago. As long as there is a gambling site that does not require KYC, we can still play gambling without sending anything to them. I am sure the casino will be aware of the regulation and how they can still operate without the government interfering. We as a gambler also have an option to select where we want to gamble.

I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.
I believe that will happen in the future, especially when everything is set up and the casino is ready to launch a new service or a new casino that will offer a new experience to the gamblers. Ethereum will grow more than now because I think the project will still work hard to make sure that they still have more investors interested in that project. The government can not interfere with that but they can watch how the process runs.



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August 04, 2021, 08:39:35 AM
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I think it's necessary, I mean what could go wrong with that and poker websites just want to make sure that they comply with the laws, gambling can be an avenue for money laundering so I don't really mind having a KYC.
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August 04, 2021, 09:38:43 AM
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I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.
I believe that will happen in the future, especially when everything is set up and the casino is ready to launch a new service or a new casino that will offer a new experience to the gamblers. Ethereum will grow more than now because I think the project will still work hard to make sure that they still have more investors interested in that project. The government can not interfere with that but they can watch how the process runs.

Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.

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I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.
I believe that will happen in the future, especially when everything is set up and the casino is ready to launch a new service or a new casino that will offer a new experience to the gamblers. Ethereum will grow more than now because I think the project will still work hard to make sure that they still have more investors interested in that project. The government can not interfere with that but they can watch how the process runs.

Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.
Even if that can happen, I am a bit worried if the government still wants to interfere and force the casino or online gambling sites to follow what they want to apply KYC for their members. If the casino follows the government's asks, they will apply for KYC, but if it's not, the members will have their time playing gambling without doing KYC. But still, I am sure that there will be an online gambling site far away from that government and never ask for the KYC from their members.



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August 04, 2021, 11:57:49 AM
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I think it's necessary, I mean what could go wrong with that and poker websites just want to make sure that they comply with the laws, gambling can be an avenue for money laundering so I don't really mind having a KYC.
This remind me of one case here in forum that a account recently find out that he did joined in an event of poker in which from 8 participants he owns the 6 of them.

what i mean here is that if the event requires KYC then for sure he will never made it happen.

so KYC might be implemented in some ways but of course it is our choice to join or now, Me? i will never lol.

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August 04, 2021, 02:11:48 PM
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Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.
Even if that can happen, I am a bit worried if the government still wants to interfere and force the casino or online gambling sites to follow what they want to apply KYC for their members. If the casino follows the government's asks, they will apply for KYC, but if it's not, the members will have their time playing gambling without doing KYC. But still, I am sure that there will be an online gambling site far away from that government and never ask for the KYC from their members.

Yes, you are right - with the strictest regulation, there will be underground sites providing various services without KYC, including gambling.
If we talk about the dangers, I do not like that now the governments are trying to take control of the entire crypto. This is much more dangerous than regulation in certain areas.

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August 04, 2021, 02:33:58 PM
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It makes no sense if it is just for a few hundred dollars but for like 20 thousand above, it should be.
Just to avoid criminals just spinning their money using the casinos.
I have been used to no KYC ever since. From Yolodice to Sportsbet. None. Even if it takes like 0.1-0.3 BTC they are not even asking for anything just yet.
But of course, if you go above their limits then it must be done because they will be the ones having problems with authorities if they won't abide by the rules.
OP's example though is not necessary.
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If you think the amount of money in your account doesn't worth it with your personal information in return, then just ignore it and find another gambling platform that doesn't require KYC so your problem will be solved. In my opinion, providing your personal information just to be able to withdraw your funds is risky, however, it is not (I guess) if the gambling platform is well known by everybody especially the Government in your country.
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August 05, 2021, 08:28:24 AM
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Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.
Even if that can happen, I am a bit worried if the government still wants to interfere and force the casino or online gambling sites to follow what they want to apply KYC for their members. If the casino follows the government's asks, they will apply for KYC, but if it's not, the members will have their time playing gambling without doing KYC. But still, I am sure that there will be an online gambling site far away from that government and never ask for the KYC from their members.

Yes, you are right - with the strictest regulation, there will be underground sites providing various services without KYC, including gambling.
If we talk about the dangers, I do not like that now the governments are trying to take control of the entire crypto. This is much more dangerous than regulation in certain areas.
I do not like but we can not do anything. It seems the government wants to use the moment to take control of the crypto and they can easily force not just the gambling site but the local exchanges because they are in their jurisdiction. If the government really conquer all the things on the internet in the name of the regulation, there will be a big demonstration happen in all countries because the internet means people have their own choice. But people will realize that they are still in their country.



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Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  Cheesy

I am against the KYC procedure....

What is this position based on?

The answer is obvious.  Currently, a digital concentration camp is being created in the world.  This is facilitated by the development of new technologies - Big Data, artificial intelligence, biometrics, CBDC, etc.  

Sharing your personal data with other people just to play online poker ?!  In my opinion, this is madness!  

I do not want to go through the KYC procedure.  Many online casinos do not insist on going through the KYC procedure.  And I am a supporter of confidentiality and anonymity.  

I'd rather play solitaire on the kitchen table than go through KYC and play online poker.

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August 05, 2021, 09:34:41 PM
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As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC
The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.

There is a big difference between KYC in any EU located casino or some noname casino in offshore which forcing you to pass KYC. In first case maybe even I would pass KYC, because at least i'm protected by EU laws. And in second - no one can guarantee you anything. So avoid offshore casinos which trying to trick you with KYC. They don't have any rights for this.

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August 05, 2021, 09:51:29 PM
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As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC
The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.

There is a big difference between KYC in any EU located casino or some noname casino in offshore which forcing you to pass KYC. In first case maybe even I would pass KYC, because at least i'm protected by EU laws. And in second - no one can guarantee you anything. So avoid offshore casinos which trying to trick you with KYC. They don't have any rights for this.
^ So what are those differences? Does it matter where you are located at?
Probably because this was a part of their legalization that was heavily regulated by the government and casino does not have anything to do is just to follow government rules and jurisdictions. I think gambling casino has no option if they will force to acquire KYC procedure, that is probably a part of gambling casino that has a license, must be followed by the government and we know government hat of being anonymous. Nevertheless, I also hate a gambling casino that requires KYC, as long as there is another option to avoid those casinos, there is a chance that you cannot pass KYC verification.
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August 06, 2021, 09:12:59 PM
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^ So what are those differences? Does it matter where you are located at?

of course, lol. Despite services (especially government) often get hacked it's still a big difference: Casinos and books located in EU or USA can't sell your data on dark markets. At least, they would be in a high risk if it would be public case. And shitty casinos from offshores which registered on fake people (sometime this is local hobos) will have less problems with that. So they are more probably to do so. Isn't it logical enough?

With EU casinos you're in less risk to be blackmailed and so on.

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August 06, 2021, 09:23:51 PM
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^ So what are those differences? Does it matter where you are located at?

of course, lol. Despite services (especially government) often get hacked it's still a big difference: Casinos and books located in EU or USA can't sell your data on dark markets. At least, they would be in a high risk if it would be public case. And shitty casinos from offshores which registered on fake people (sometime this is local hobos) will have less problems with that. So they are more probably to do so. Isn't it logical enough?

With EU casinos you're in less risk to be blackmailed and so on.
This is good to have good regulations for those casinos, i can say that in my country we are at risk on exposing our personal details because our law is not that strong and this is why many people don’t want KYC at all but with banks and casinos, I think its mandatory. Anyway, there’s a lot of good crypto site without any KYC you can try playing with them, that’s a good option if you want to remain anonymous gambler, just understand their terms of service because KYC can still be asked.

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August 30, 2021, 09:35:26 PM
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Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  Cheesy
I still don't see a good reasons why a Gambling site will require KYC which is unnecessary for me cause gambling activities should not be taken seriously like exchanges that requires kyc for the protection of others users which can be scammed or use of fake alert and other illegal activities. KYC can be sold to third party paltforms which can be used against a user if necessary info of the user is gotten. Kyc is a vital information of a person which should not be disclosed to third parties mistakenly or not.

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