Poker casino but need KYC, is this really necessary?

[ChuckBuck]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

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[YOSHIE]

There are so many online gambling sites that offer poker games, almost every gambling site has poker games, in terms of KYC or not KYC.
• Some gambling sites at the beginning of registration are required to do KYC.
• and some other gambling sites do not require kyc, only email password is complete.
Both factors gambling sites require kyc or don't require kyc, free to choose games poker, slots, roulette, mines, baccarat, blackjack, craps and many others.

Every win you get in the game does not require kyc, because you already have a single account for the deposit and withdrawal process, from the start of registration.

So, I just heard that certain sites that win poker games have to go through KYC, personal data (identity), this is worth asking what KYC is for....while at the beginning of the registration process, the requirements have been passed, Supposedly when you win poker, you are free in all dealings/withdrawals, without KYC.

[ralle14]

The situation seems subjective since it's hard to judge a gambling site that you've played for a day but at the same time I guess it depends on how you view the poker site. I might've said this before though no matter how trusted the site is there's always a possibility for your information to get leaked but I don't think there's anything wrong with KYC knowing that the site is the best of the best out there. As much as possible you should look for alternatives but if you're really think it's worth it in your own view and understand the risks then i'd say go for it.

[Wexnident]

It's less on the crypto side and more on the gambling side that crypto requires users to do KYC no? I actually don't think that KYC is much of a problem, especially if it isn't really the casinos fault that they have to enforce such rules. I can simply use one wallet that, well, pretty open that says I am its owner, then have another wallet for those miscellaneous payments that I want to stay anonymous. Well, originally, my purpose of using crypto was for it to be my own personal bank, being anonymous is pretty much an added benefit but I can live without it either way.

Back to gambling and crypto, it's entirely up to you whether you want it or not tbh, the casino isn't exactly forcing you, but don't expect to actually play on it. I reckon there are other casinos out there that don't require KYC, but as @YOSHIE said, they may ask for it later on in the game, which is kind of worse imo than asking it from the very start.

[robelneo]

You did not name the gambling site I hope you will name it, you're not promoting the site it's for awareness purposes so we'll know if we are already playing on this site or planning to register and play, doing KYC in a gambling site depends on the player's preference if the site is new and there are offers that are good to be true I don't think it's worth doing KYC, you'll regret later because there's no free money in a gambling site, there's always a catch.
If the gambling site is reputable and had a good report and they are asking KYC for compliance I don't see any issue doing KYC, you are not selling your identity, trusted gambling sites always ask KYC as a rule when giving bonuses or verifying cashout.

[avikz]

Crypto casinos usually do not require KYC. However,  exceptions are there! Try to check their FAQ and T&C page and see if there is a mention of KYC requirement. If yes, then you will need to be KYC compliant in order to withdraw funds to your wallet.

Secondly, if you don't find any such mention of KYC in their FAQ or T&C, then you can possibly fight it. But some casinos may ask for KYC documents if your winning is huge to ensure they themselves are compliant with the money laundering law.

So it's situational sometimes! Reputed casinos who always try to stand on the right side if the legal system, will require KYC. But that ahould be duly mentioned. The choice is yours whether you want to use their platform or not.

[kryptqnick]

I prefer websites with mild KYC policies (those that ask for KYC when there's something suspicious going on or big sums involved), but it's a personal preference thing. Over the years, it seems that more and more websites start enforcing KYC, at least sometimes. KYC is usually outsourced to companies that specialize in it specifically, and unless you become a wanted criminal and the law enforcement asks them for your data, I don't think anyone cares or will use it. There's also a risk of getting identity stolen due to hacks or something like this, but I think it's pretty rare if a company's legit. I don't like KYC, but I'm not 100% against it if a legit company's doing it.

[rhomelmabini]

I've been with some poker sites but most that I've been with doesn't require KYC like requesting for an identity card or a national card, most of them just want like email verification and nothing much even on the withdrawal process. Might be the reason if they are on the country with a tighter regulation in regards to gambling.I don't think you're promoting them if what you said was all true but I guess most will understand the situation or personal decision.

[Gozie51]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

[SFR10]

No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

I see your point but some of us, use cryptocurrencies because of other reasons.

It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars.

Some of them "have to make sure" to not send or receive anything from certain nationalities and even for those that are residing in certain countries.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?

Since it's a gambling platform, I'd say it's not worth it ^{[money wouldn't be the only thing you'd be gambling, if you go through that KYC process]}.

Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I would not ^{[there has to be an ulterior motive with such a significant move]}.

[btc78]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

Of course , there are tons of gambling sites that does not require KYC in poker so why need to spend time on this one. and besides there are more reputable in poker area that has been running here in community for long and they never asked for kyc eversince.
lets choose the site in which we are comfortable and not in sites that will give us issue or problem.

I've been with some poker sites but most that I've been with doesn't require KYC like requesting for an identity card or a national card, most of them just want like email verification and nothing much even on the withdrawal process. Might be the reason if they are on the country with a tighter regulation in regards to gambling.I don't think you're promoting them if what you said was all true but I guess most will understand the situation or personal decision.

i have once experience for KYC but that is when i have problem in my account and need to be recovered so i complied with the teams request and  make my claim possible .

[iv4n]

I prefer websites with mild KYC policies (those that ask for KYC when there's something suspicious going on or big sums involved), but it's a personal preference thing. Over the years, it seems that more and more websites start enforcing KYC, at least sometimes. KYC is usually outsourced to companies that specialize in it specifically, and unless you become a wanted criminal and the law enforcement asks them for your data, I don't think anyone cares or will use it. There's also a risk of getting identity stolen due to hacks or something like this, but I think it's pretty rare if a company's legit. I don't like KYC, but I'm not 100% against it if a legit company's doing it.

Nice comment! I try to avoid KYC whenever it's possible, but if it's something legit and I wish to be part of something, I will do KYC, it's not a big deal! At least for us "ordinary guys", without any illegal intentions!
Websites are enforcing KYC more and more, it's what we get with regulations! If you wish to see a casino (or any other service) with some licence, that licence can mean "KYC mandatory" for all users!

I still play poker at SwC, and they don't ask for KYC! It's far from perfect, it's far from fiat poker places, but I like it... and I think we need some good only-crypto poker place! CoinPoker started something, and I was active there in their beggings, for some reason I stopped playing there, so I am not sure where they are now, and what's happening with this place.

[tokeweed]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

No offense but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.  Of all the types of sites offering games that involves money, poker sites should be the most enforced sites to KYC.  There’s a thing called ‘chip dumping’.

Go look up what chip dumping is and I’m sure you’ll get why.

[acquafredda]

It is necessary if the casinos are in any of the regulated jurisdictions and if they ever want to transact with fiat money. From what I know, on the user side, if you wish to get an excellent comparison among the several crypto casinos just reach
https://www.btcgosu.com
and in the casino reviews you will see what kind of KYC they implement.
Then the choice is up to you.

[arallmuus]

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But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker?

All the time unless it is a crypto poker site like swc then I dont think it is necessary for them to ask for KYC. There is nothing wrong with KYC to be honest, most people that have an account in crypto gambling also have account in crypto exchange. If you trust those crypto exchanges with your identity then I dont see why you are hesitating on submitting one for a gambling site

Its pretty much the same for both because there is no guarantee that your identity is safe with them.

Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$

This sounds like ggpoker to me.

I play regularly in ggpoker and I submitted my KYC. The KYC stuff is pretty much standard practice for most poker site right now

[alegotardo]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?

I don't like and I don't do KYC.
I don't remember the last time I made a withdrawal from gambling, either because I'm a bad gambler or because I always spend my winnings on new games.
I play for fun, not for profit, so I dont see a reason to submit my data to a site.

In my opinion, no site needs to get KYC to allow players to bet, they have the right to require KYC to withdraw large amounts, but this needs to be made very clear to the player in advance, and preferably this is shown on the screen of deposits too so that players aren't caught by surprise later.

[Vaculin]

It's necessary if it's part of the TOS, once you sign up with the site, you also comply with the terms. However, I believe there are still a lot of reputable poker gambling sites that you can play with, just try to look if you are bothered with submitting your KYC information.

As for me, I'd rather choose to gamble anonymously as that's the main purpose why we are using crypto casinos.

[Slow death]

the big problem with doing KYC in casinos is the following:

1 - No one knows who the casino owners are

2 - no one knows the casino's headquarters. I speak of physical office

3 - no one knows where the casino keeps people's documents

4 - there is no government entity that can help you in case you complain about the casino being demanding in terms of KYC

How can someone feel safe doing KYC in a casino where the person doesn't know the casino owners? how can it be fair for someone to hand over documents to an internet stranger?

this is unfair

[Sterbens]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

Such a case would indeed sound very bad if it was related to identity. Meanwhile, users still want their privacy to be maintained. But is our privacy or identity still safe until now? I'm not sure, because learning from the past, maybe we have forgotten and agreed to do KYC. Whether it's a gambling site or something, which requires users to do KYC.

Well, for the case that you present to us, of course, it depends on the users which they will agree just to withdraw some money, or not. Honestly, if the amount of money is large, of course, like it or not, the KYC process will be carried out. This does not mean that you are willing to give up your identity just for the sake of money, but rather on the basis of a need that for the user of that money is very important in order to fulfill his life needs.

One more thing, if everything is related to the contents of the stomach, then almost all of us don't care anymore about privacy, identity and personal data will surely be handed over.

[michellee]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I do not want to do KYC just for gambling because that is not worth doing. I am better to search for the other gambling site which does not require KYC for their members. Besides that, I do not playing gambling very often so I will skip on that site if I see they require KYC. I am not good at searching for referrals through referral links so I do not think I will still use that site.

But I think some people will not have a problem doing KYC on that gambling site because they know how to make money from that site. That will depend on what we want and it could be different for each people.

[$crypto$]

This is becoming a lot of problems nowadays because as crypto gamblers of course our identity wants to remain anonymous without anyone knowing it, therefore I always see from the website how they implement their system of terms and conditions so from before there was a friend who offered a new poker site moreover I don't know of course I'll check it all out.

There are still pros and cons and I also want to remain anonymous without providing any identity when making withdrawals therefore all this will be a problem and we don't know what to do with our data and I think I will avoid it if it's a new site I know.

What I know is that many platforms in the forum about poker games do not need to do KYC.

[Fesatmas]

Are there no other gambling sites that make money without having to KYC at the time of withdrawal?
In any case when it comes to identity I will avoid it, even if they have to give up some money. what i said sounded selfish? for me identity is the main thing, and for the sake of avoiding crime in the future. We are afraid that our data will actually be very much more dangerous, it could be that the data is sold and used for things that are criminal in nature, you will be sought by the authorities then the cost of mitigating the sentence will be much more expensive than what we take from the site. Rather than just an amount of money that will run out, identity remains the main choice.

[tulusikhlas]

It is very difficult when faced with this kind of choice. I am frequently asked by some friends who are still gambling on sites that ask you to require KYC. Maybe some people will choose to do it, because there you have the money you have to get. And so far, gambling sites that use crypto don't really require us to KYC. simply register using your email or phone number, you are free to gamble with any bet. Then at the time of withdrawal you do not need to do KYC.

[Darker45]

I definitely am not a fan of KYC but I am not avoiding it like a plague either. I mean, if I have the option to avoid KYC or use an alternative which does not require KYC, I'd prefer it. But if there is no other option, I might comply. The exact thing I did with centralized exchanges.

Surely, however, this is definitely not the only platform which offers poker with crypto. So I guess there is no reason for you to stick to it. Go find another one. There's probably a handful of other options for you.

[ChuckBuck]

So, I just heard that certain sites that win poker games have to go through KYC, personal data (identity), this is worth asking what KYC is for....while at the beginning of the registration process, the requirements have been passed, Supposedly when you win poker, you are free in all dealings/withdrawals, without KYC.

With regular casinos I find that they only do KYC on winners who have too much money or hit their trading limit, with withdrawals at tens or hundreds of dollars, I rarely see casinos who need KYC.

The situation seems subjective since it's hard to judge a gambling site that you've played for a day but at the same time I guess it depends on how you view the poker site

ya, I get it. Evaluating a platform for the first time is not a good idea, i just wonder why they ask for KYC when i want to start with them

Back to gambling and crypto, it's entirely up to you whether you want it or not tbh, the casino isn't exactly forcing you, but don't expect to actually play on it. I reckon there are other casinos out there that don't require KYC, but as @YOSHIE said, they may ask for it later on in the game, which is kind of worse imo than asking it from the very start.

Oh, this sounds reasonable, the plus for this is that they require KYC for us to decide whether to continue or stop, it sucks when you win big and the casino starts asking for KYC, it must be more annoying

You did not name the gambling site I hope you will name it, you're not promoting the site it's for awareness purposes so we'll know if we are already playing on this site or planning to register and play, doing KYC in a gambling site depends on the player's preference if the site is new and there are offers that are good to be true I don't think it's worth doing KYC, you'll regret later because there's no free money in a gambling site, there's always a catch

As far as I can see, this is a new casino, they are testing their platform, and they are giving newbies a bonus, so I guess no one here has experienced it. And since it's a new casino, KYC is clearly something to consider

[adzino]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

KYC requirement has nothing to do with Poker. The casino probably requires you to complete or go through KYC because of legal reason. They country where the casino is operating or has license issued requires them to collect user information. This is because if they have no KYC requirement, people would be able to easily launder money through the casino. Lets say "A" wants to launder his money. He can play pvp poker with his accomplice "B". Lose on purpose. "B" can then say that he won those money by playing poker . You see where the issue is?

[ChuckBuck]

Let's say you have some illegal money and would like to wash it, you could sit down at poker table and just lose all the money to a buddy of yours. He will just withdraw and pay some taxes on it as legitimate poker earnings.

Your comments are really great! You gave me a new perspective that I never thought, you are really right, casinos like this can be used to launder money easily. But in reality, there are always ways to launder money, as the crypto space is the best place to do it 

Crypto casinos usually do not require KYC. However,  exceptions are there! Try to check their FAQ and T&C page and see if there is a mention of KYC requirement. If yes, then you will need to be KYC compliant in order to withdraw funds to your wallet.

Sure, it's necessary, because without KYC I wouldn't be able to withdraw money from their platform, that's what I'm wondering, they're still a brand new platform

I prefer websites with mild KYC policies

In this case, it is a bad KYC policy. They collect everything from me, including my current address, that's why I'm annoyed with it 

[Tumanggor]

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I almost never play on gambling platforms that Require KYC, although I have no problem with KYC
I know there are many issues that say that our identity is traded if we do KYC but I don't think that far

I will definitely do KYC on that gambling site if I win big there
why let the money we win stay there if we can withdraw it only with KYC

[zanezane]

I think given the advent of usage of crypto as a means to launder money, I think KYC is more important than ever, what I mean by that is that launderers can deposit large amounts of money in crypto and then play a small portion of it and then withdraw the remaining balance, it can sometimes be undetectable so it's best that there's a KYC in place to deter launderers because we like it or not and believe it or not, launderers use cryptocurrencies to launder money.

[Cling18]

There are lots of legit and trusted gambling platforms nowadays that don't require KYC. If you aren't comfortable with it then you shouldn't be playing in sites that ask KYC in the first place. You should have read their terms and conditions first. KYC is important but there are also ways for us who get rid of it especially when we want to protect our personal identity.

[Jawhead999]

what I mean by that is that launderers can deposit large amounts of money in crypto and then play a small portion of it and then withdraw the remaining balance, it can sometimes be undetectable

In theory yes, but in reality isn't. Because when you deposit large amount money and want to withdraw it, you'll need to complete KYC first since most of casino will ask KYC when their security detect large withdrawal.

However I don't think those launders are using casino for money laundering since there's a high risk you'll get caught, mostly they could use a mixer and has far better privacy.

[ChuckBuck]

I've been with some poker sites but most that I've been with doesn't require KYC like requesting for an identity card or a national card, most of them just want like email verification and nothing much even on the withdrawal process.

that's right, most of the current casinos here do not require KYC when you join and play on their platform, this is the exception so i wonder

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

i agree with your opinion, but what do you think about selling your identity for 200$ through KYC on their platform?

Since it's a gambling platform, I'd say it's not worth it ^{[money wouldn't be the only thing you'd be gambling, if you go through that KYC process]}.

me too, it's really not worth selling your identity, which can cause a lot of potential dangers later  there's so much we're dealing with doing this KYC, a KYC requires a lot of information like I mentioned

[ChuckBuck]

No offense but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.  Of all the types of sites offering games that involves money, poker sites should be the most enforced sites to KYC.  There’s a thing called ‘chip dumping’.

On the contrary, I am not really understanding what you are talking about. I am talking about crypto casinos, it has nothing to do with chips on actual casinos, so the chip dumping you talk about is not here at all 

I play regularly in ggpoker and I submitted my KYC. The KYC stuff is pretty much standard practice for most poker site right now

How long have you known it? Are you nervous when doing KYC? What information do they ask for? I think it depends on the level of KYC requirements that we can consider

I don't like and I don't do KYC.

I play for fun, not for profit, so I dont see a reason to submit my data to a site.

Nothing special, I just love this answer

[jostorres]

This is becoming a lot of problems nowadays because as crypto gamblers of course our identity wants to remain anonymous without anyone knowing it, therefore I always see from the website how they implement their system of terms and conditions so from before there was a friend who offered a new poker site moreover I don't know of course I'll check it all out.

There are still pros and cons and I also want to remain anonymous without providing any identity when making withdrawals therefore all this will be a problem and we don't know what to do with our data and I think I will avoid it if it's a new site I know.

What I know is that many platforms in the forum about poker games do not need to do KYC.

Similarly, there are many sportsbooks that require document verification even before you register while some will not ask for documents at all. For example, I remember a site I visited something named like btb88 was asking for verification as soon as you make an account while a site like sportsbet.io doesn't ask for documents at all unless there is a dispute.

Some casinos/sportsbook take verification very seriously while some just don't ask for anything so it depends on what kind of casino you are playing at. I don't mind giving out my identity to a verified and trusted platform but I won't be doing the same to a new casino without any history.

[imstillthebest]

they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

you must use the casino's own referal link ? but they are the owner .
referal link dont work like that but moving on , it could be because of the rewards on why they require a kyc so that people cannot abuse it .
 its only up to 200 dollars and i think that was small in exchange for our identitiy but maybe there are some people that will take the risk . that was only new but we have old poker apps and they wont require a kyc  .

[haidil]

Based on this kind of case, there are 2 options that can be taken if you are in that position, namely:

First: if you agree to KYC, then you can withdraw the money but at the risk of your personal data being a second party, which can be used without you knowing it. Your withdrawn money has run out but your data will still be there and can be traded at any time.

Second: if you don't do KYC, then you lose the funds that have been collected but your personal data is safe from actions that you don't expect beyond your own control.

so you just choose !!

[bitzizzix]

I don't like KYC and if there is a gambling site that I want to use I need to use KYC I won't do it and better find one that doesn't need to use KYC, because for me identity is very important to avoid unwanted things.
and another reason because I'm not an active gambler and don't just stay on one gambling site, and besides that I play gambling just for fun and also rarely play so for me KYC is not too important.
and but if you are an active and capital gambler and are required to use it, it is your right, because of the regulations to issue KYC to account holders to ensure a safe gambling environment and to prevent fraud, money laundering, bonus abuse, underage gambling and duplicate account.

[ChuckBuck]

this is unfair

Yes, we know nothing about them, but they are wanting to know all about us. Oh no, they are not the one who knows all about us, they do KYC through a third party, who knows, what that third party will do with our information. It is bringing us back to the question, what risks does KYC pose...

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So that means, in this case, you are willing to do KYC to be able to continue to experience this platform, as well as earn some extra money for newbies in their program. Well, one option might be good for you 

I do not want to do KYC just for gambling because that is not worth doing. I am better to search for the other gambling site which does not require KYC for their members. Besides that, I do not playing gambling very often so I will skip on that site if I see they require KYC. I am not good at searching for referrals through referral links so I do not think I will still use that site.

Maybe you don't gamble very often, but what do you think about doing KYC and getting their $200 withdrawable tokens? I think it's an attractive proposition, do you think you will KYC to receive it?

[yazher]

This is a difficult question. I understand that many people want to keep their identity private on the Internet, but when money is involved criminal activities are not far. Without any regulation, online casinos can be misused fot money laundering purposes. KYC is needed to prevent that. Let's say you have some illegal money and would like to wash it, you could sit down at poker table and just lose all the money to a buddy of yours. He will just withdraw and pay some taxes on it as legitimate poker earnings.

That's as easy as possible if look at it that way and the need for KYC will be mandatory if they have this kind of hole. Money laundering would be easy in that way. as we can see, they are using this kind of trick too because they hold a huge amount of money and don't want to give some taxes to their government. Looks like when you have lots of cash you will have a big problem too. Therefor, it is necessary to have this feature when people exploiting your site for some personal purposes.

[just_Alice]

It depends on personal preferences, not everyone thinks KYC is bad. But you're right that it makes no sense: why does that casino deal with crypto and, at the same time, requires KYC from everyone? In any case, it's good that the casino was straightforward about that and it didn't came out as a total surprise when you've won a ton of money and need to withdraw (which happens A LOT).

Be careful with that $200 bonus though, read the rules carefully, it seems like too much money to just give away to every user, there might be a rollover requirement or something of the sort.

[Lanatsa]

It depends on personal preferences, not everyone thinks KYC is bad. But you're right that it makes no sense: why does that casino deal with crypto and, at the same time, requires KYC from everyone? In any case, it's good that the casino was straightforward about that and it didn't came out as a total surprise when you've won a ton of money and need to withdraw (which happens A LOT).

Be careful with that $200 bonus though, read the rules carefully, it seems like too much money to just give away to every user, there might be a rollover requirement or something of the sort.

When it comes to bonuses then roll over is something in default attached to it.  

Crpyto casinos are still regulated but since its on the sense that it is attached with crypto then KYC is really contradictory on overall essence which is totally opposing.

It is just depending on someone if they would really be complying it out or would skip and find another place.

[tippytoes]

It depends on personal preferences, not everyone thinks KYC is bad. But you're right that it makes no sense: why does that casino deal with crypto and, at the same time, requires KYC from everyone? In any case, it's good that the casino was straightforward about that and it didn't came out as a total surprise when you've won a ton of money and need to withdraw (which happens A LOT).

Be careful with that $200 bonus though, read the rules carefully, it seems like too much money to just give away to every user, there might be a rollover requirement or something of the sort.

When it comes to bonuses then roll over is something in default attached to it. 

Crpyto casinos are still regulated but since its on the sense that it is attached with crypto then KYC is really contradictory on overall essence which is totally opposing.

It is just depending on someone if they would really be complying it out or would skip and find another place.

As there are many options these days when it comes to reputable crypto casinos that don't require KYC, if it is important for you about this requirement, then don't play on that site. Because we really don't know where our info end up with. As much as possible, limit the number of sites where you send your KYC details. And if you have other options why not? Bonuses are just attraction from potential players, but of course, there's more to it.

[Rengga Jati]

It's rather difficult to give opinions. A private kit does basically do not like the KYC system where we submit our data to them, and we do not know whether the data is really safe until any time. But this is one of the risks of KYC if we do it or force it.

For poker sites or online gambling sites, sometimes KYC / AML itself is needed by the platform. Usually, this is related to the T & C policy in them. Basically, there are several platforms that do not allow citizens from certain countries to use their sites, so as to prove that the person is not a citizen concerned, then KYC / AML is carried out.
And this might be related to the privacy policy and also the law on the platform. Because it could be that they get sanctions if it is known to provide services for the restricted countries.

But if you don't like KYC, it will be better if you choose a platform that is really free without KYC.

[Zilon]

$200 is too cheap. I rather not play in a casino demanding for KYC verification before I can withdraw. I love been anonymous with crypto gambling because it saves the stress of unnecessary monitoring from most agencies. Leaving my data with an online casino is really not safe for me because my data can actually be given out to government agencies if need be mostly for taxations and it would also expose my wallet address which I for ever love to keep anonymous

[michellee]

I do not want to do KYC just for gambling because that is not worth doing. I am better to search for the other gambling site which does not require KYC for their members. Besides that, I do not playing gambling very often so I will skip on that site if I see they require KYC. I am not good at searching for referrals through referral links so I do not think I will still use that site.

Maybe you don't gamble very often, but what do you think about doing KYC and getting their $200 withdrawable tokens? I think it's an attractive proposition, do you think you will KYC to receive it?

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

[Shasha80]

I do not want to do KYC just for gambling because that is not worth doing. I am better to search for the other gambling site which does not require KYC for their members. Besides that, I do not playing gambling very often so I will skip on that site if I see they require KYC. I am not good at searching for referrals through referral links so I do not think I will still use that site.

Maybe you don't gamble very often, but what do you think about doing KYC and getting their $200 withdrawable tokens? I think it's an attractive proposition, do you think you will KYC to receive it?

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.

[harizen]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?

I'd rather comply with KYC on crypto exchanges rather than on a crypto gambling platform. That shouldn't be the environment in the crypto-gambling world.

But there are considerations such as if I hit a big winning amount that I can't imagine to win then the site told me to comply with KYC before they will release it, I will undergo KYC or something along those lines.

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  

Simply, if you don't like their KYC policy, find another site.

If you really need to play on that site, for personal reasons or so, then no choice but to comply with it to avoid any problems in the future.

[michellee]

I do not want to do KYC just for gambling because that is not worth doing. I am better to search for the other gambling site which does not require KYC for their members. Besides that, I do not playing gambling very often so I will skip on that site if I see they require KYC. I am not good at searching for referrals through referral links so I do not think I will still use that site.

Maybe you don't gamble very often, but what do you think about doing KYC and getting their $200 withdrawable tokens? I think it's an attractive proposition, do you think you will KYC to receive it?

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.

Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
Simply, if you don't like their KYC policy, find another site.

^ Definitely right it is a very simple and basic answer. There are too many gambling sites that you can choose from that there is no need for a KYC verification or implementation, if you don't like that site then, it is time for you to move on to other gambling sites. But if you are going to ask me, I don't have a problem if I will comply with a KYC verification as long as I can trust the site that is fine with me to submit my documents. Nevertheless, probably we can first clarify the term of use before using the gambling site that we can gamble.

[Fesatmas]

I definitely am not a fan of KYC but I am not avoiding it like a plague either. I mean, if I have the option to avoid KYC or use an alternative which does not require KYC, I'd prefer it. But if there is no other option, I might comply. The exact thing I did with centralized exchanges.

Surely, however, this is definitely not the only platform which offers poker with crypto. So I guess there is no reason for you to stick to it. Go find another one. There's probably a handful of other options for you.

Everyone has thoughts about doing KYC or not. It depends on how the site enforces the rules that players need to follow. Therefore you need to read the rules before continuing to play. So if there are rules that you think will be very detrimental to one party, then use the option to continue or switch to another casino.

[acquafredda]

the big problem with doing KYC in casinos is the following:

1 - No one knows who the casino owners are

2 - no one knows the casino's headquarters. I speak of physical office

3 - no one knows where the casino keeps people's documents

4 - there is no government entity that can help you in case you complain about the casino being demanding in terms of KYC

How can someone feel safe doing KYC in a casino where the person doesn't know the casino owners? how can it be fair for someone to hand over documents to an internet stranger?

this is unfair

Exactly this, in the end you are giving away your data to an entity that one day might become anything else or, worse, get hacked and eventually you will find your ID and sensitive data sold on the darkmarket for a few satoshis. That is, IMO, a risk too high to be accepted, hence I will never undergo any KYC with such services. Even the few exchanges I am using were carefully picked before abiding KYC.

[Saisher]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

For a new site I would not, they must establish their reputation first before I do KYC, that bonus is just to entice you to give you all your vital details, we have seen it on so many airdrops, they are giving away useless tokens in exchange for your vital information, which they will sell in the black market, they can make money from selling this information.

I prefer doing KYC to an old and reputable gambling sites, they have a reputation to protect and adhere to government regulations.

[$crypto$]

~snip~

Similarly, there are many sportsbooks that require document verification even before you register while some will not ask for documents at all. For example, I remember a site I visited something named like btb88 was asking for verification as soon as you make an account while a site like sportsbet.io doesn't ask for documents at all unless there is a dispute.

Some casinos/sportsbook take verification very seriously while some just don't ask for anything so it depends on what kind of casino you are playing at. I don't mind giving out my identity to a verified and trusted platform but I won't be doing the same to a new casino without any history.

I have never bet on btb88 including betting on the sports book if so I know now of course I will not create an account there if I am first asked for documents to complete the account profile, and indeed this is one of their seriousness to bring the site better , behind all that there must be someone who refuses about the documents that the site wants.

I will also give proper KYC to betting sites if I already know the ins and outs, meaning a lot of positive feedback about the casino then I don't mind, then if asked for a new site then I will also think twice and not do it.

Sportsbet and FortuneJack those big sports sites don't ask for KYC.

[Renampun]

It is very difficult when faced with this kind of choice. I am frequently asked by some friends who are still gambling on sites that ask you to require KYC. Maybe some people will choose to do it, because there you have the money you have to get. And so far, gambling sites that use crypto don't really require us to KYC. simply register using your email or phone number, you are free to gamble with any bet. Then at the time of withdrawal you do not need to do KYC.

each of us has reasons that can justify us doing that...

I will also definitely do KYC if faced with such a choice. $ 200 here is a pretty big amount for me. Cheated or not, the consequences must be accepted because that's my choice to do KYC there.

[Sterbens]

So that means, in this case, you are willing to do KYC to be able to continue to experience this platform, as well as earn some extra money for newbies in their program. Well, one option might be good for you 

I would emphasize that it all depends on how the user responds to it. On the other hand, KYC is often considered a bad thing, because your identity is handed over in any place. But that's regardless of how one has his or her point of view. We sometimes often forbid people to do KYC, but on the other hand we don't realize we have ever KYC without further thought. Even we have forgotten how many times we do kYC for some sake.

Are you sure that your data is still safe until now and can it be proven?
I'm not going to be a hypocrite in this matter, because honestly I feel that I've unknowingly been KYC in the past. And till now I don't have any problem regarding KYC. Because of that I do not deny something that should be conveyed based on experience.
Not all KYC is bad, you may have KYC for the sake of creating a bank account, does that sound bad? neither is it?

[justdimin]

I don't think there should be any KYC in place to withdraw the funds because we are compromising with the features at a crypto-based casino to a fiat casino because we feel that it's anonymous. I am not a huge poker player so I don't know if cheating or anything is possible in such games but as long as the game can't be cheated in any way, I don't think there is any need for KYC.

Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app.

Might want to edit the repeated lines, mate.

[goinmerry]

But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Since we don't know the casino, if that's a fiat casino, most of the time KYC is mandatory there because transactions and fundings are made through bank accounts. But for crypto casinos, there shouldn't be a KYC as a requirement to withdraw.

May we know the casino? Don't worry it's not a form of promoting them. I'm just curious since it's only a few I think that there's a crypto gambling site that has its own download app version. I've encountered the same before but that was years ago and I can't remember the name.

[KTChampions]

Personally, I prefer to remain anonymous even if I miss out on some bonuses, especially if this is a new site and I am not sure that I will use it for a long time. Although even if I use a site/casino for a long time and we are not talking about gigantic amounts of money, it is always the best option to remain anonymous.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

If i found some good casino that offering games that many casino dont have like real poker then they require their player do KYC first, and im on state really want to play that type games i would do KYC, that's the rule from their side. the only strange thing is when if you find some website let you deposit any amount. and when you ask for withdraw they ask for KYC and treat your account like in trouble im also experienced these and its feels terrible.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

if the casino is really trusted and the bonus is pure it's part of a promotion, not a trick to freeze our assets, that's okay to do KYC. this personal opinion

[Lanatsa]

It depends on personal preferences, not everyone thinks KYC is bad. But you're right that it makes no sense: why does that casino deal with crypto and, at the same time, requires KYC from everyone? In any case, it's good that the casino was straightforward about that and it didn't came out as a total surprise when you've won a ton of money and need to withdraw (which happens A LOT).

Be careful with that $200 bonus though, read the rules carefully, it seems like too much money to just give away to every user, there might be a rollover requirement or something of the sort.

When it comes to bonuses then roll over is something in default attached to it. 

Crpyto casinos are still regulated but since its on the sense that it is attached with crypto then KYC is really contradictory on overall essence which is totally opposing.

It is just depending on someone if they would really be complying it out or would skip and find another place.

As there are many options these days when it comes to reputable crypto casinos that don't require KYC, if it is important for you about this requirement, then don't play on that site. Because we really don't know where our info end up with. As much as possible, limit the number of sites where you send your KYC details. And if you have other options why not? Bonuses are just attraction from potential players, but of course, there's more to it.

Majority of crypto enthusiast or lover would really be looking after on being anonymous and kyc is totally opposing with this idea which would really be a big turn off for everybody but if someone is really that

interested nor eager to play on a certain site then its his choice but be mindful on what are the risk on sharing up your personal details online.You wouldn't know on where those info would be ending up.

Is it really necessary? no its not but since these platforms are regulated then they wouldn't really have any choice but to comply or else they would be closing up their doors.

[johhnyUA]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

[Ryker1]

Well, as long as we can avoid KYC --there was always a way to find a gambling site that does not have the required KYC.
I am before playing with Fair Poker and so far there are no KYC procedures at that time. But I don't know if that is reasonable to have a KYC verification, it should be anonymously operated since the casino knows your documents there could be a chance that you will get rub by them. My thought is --void them as much as you can a find another one, there are plenty of gambling poker casinos here that are completely anonymous which is you can choose.

[Welsh]

Seriously, get used to this being forced almost everywhere you shop, and as an extension gamble. Governments are requiring more, and more in depth Know Your Customer (KYC) details than ever before, and its likely going to keep getting worse. I can understand it a little bit from some perspectives, but it is most definitely a breach of privacy in a lot of instances. The government wants it because they can likely detect fraud, and tax evasion more effectively, which you can't blame them for, and I can understand from that point of view. Unfortunately, its the people who abuse these services for the above mentioned crimes, that gets genuine customers to give up their privacy as a result.

All gambling websites are likely going to need KYC still almost every country in the next few years.

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.

[Johnyz]

Well, as long as we can avoid KYC --there was always a way to find a gambling site that does not have the required KYC.
I am before playing with Fair Poker and so far there are no KYC procedures at that time. But I don't know if that is reasonable to have a KYC verification, it should be anonymously operated since the casino knows your documents there could be a chance that you will get rub by them. My thought is --void them as much as you can a find another one, there are plenty of gambling poker casinos here that are completely anonymous which is you can choose.

There’s a lot of good gambling site that offer poker without even asking for your KYC, so why stress yourself following that requirements where you can easily avoid it. We all want to play anonymous, so if you’re into gambling site with KYC, that’s the risk you take and you should be aware of that.

[smyslov]

It's not necessary, if you are not comfortable with their terms you can go elsewhere on poker sites that do not ask for KYC, and you should be careful on new poker sites that offer big bonuses I have the worse experience on this kind of new site, I register got my bonus and win but I need to deposit, I deposit only to find out that they will not allow me to withdraw my earnings when it is stipulated that they will let me withdraw my earnings coming from my bonus, so be careful on new site.

[Shasha80]

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.

Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

For me it's too risky to use someone else's identity to do KYC verification. Moreover, the identity is used to play gambling and the owner of
the document does not know it. Will cause big problems later on, so it is not recommended to do that. After all, our goal in gambling is just
to get entertainment in our spare time, so there's no need to do anything risky. Since the beginning I have said there are still many gambling
sites that do not apply KYC, so we can play at these gambling sites.

[michellee]

I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.

I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.

Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

For me it's too risky to use someone else's identity to do KYC verification. Moreover, the identity is used to play gambling and the owner of
the document does not know it. Will cause big problems later on, so it is not recommended to do that. After all, our goal in gambling is just
to get entertainment in our spare time, so there's no need to do anything risky. Since the beginning I have said there are still many gambling
sites that do not apply KYC, so we can play at these gambling sites.

If so, we do not have to do that instead, we search for the other gambling sites which do not require KYC. I am sure we can find it easily, especially since we have many recommended gambling websites that do not require KYC. I think the same as you as we only want to get entertainment from gambling, and we do not need to verify our account by sending any private document because that will not be necessary to do.

[Peanutswar]

There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

[Woodie]

The problem of kyc is that very few companies out there are able to show capacity to hold personal data securely and privately. And because this data is on high demand someone could go ashtray to sell it to third parties for other purposes.

Now do players need KYC, maybe yes and Know, if a player is well know and nothing fishy about the playing style fine but if there is so much inconsistencies in a players play store it's only right to perform it.

[aioc]

if the casino is really trusted and the bonus is pure it's part of a promotion, not a trick to freeze our assets, that's okay to do KYC. this personal opinion

I share your opinion it goes on individual preference I'm ok with KYC, there's really a gambling site that asks for KYC to make sure that you are clean and you are not using a VPN, if they do not allow it, I can only go for KYC if the gambling site has a good reputation to speak of, they should be honest and transparent on why they ask for KYC.

[KTChampions]

There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

If the casino is really trying to avoid spamming accounts for the referral system or rakeback, it can disable this option for accounts that have not passed the KYC. But I have not seen that somewhere it happened this way - it means that this is not the main reason for introducing the KYC.

[AakZaki]

As long as the site is trusted I think it's fine. In some activities, especially related to money, KYC activities are normal. Although I'm also aware some casinos don't ask for that. $200 is a lot, I don't save too much money on online gambling sites/casinos. The reason is to minimize the loss of my money.
Actually, from the start you have to choose a trusted site for your gambling activities. At least they are legal and recognized in a country. Because it can be one of the characteristics of an official casino site.

[dunfida]

There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

If the casino is really trying to avoid spamming accounts for the referral system or rakeback, it can disable this option for accounts that have not passed the KYC. But I have not seen that somewhere it happened this way - it means that this is not the main reason for introducing the KYC.

Not a solid reason and you are right it isnt really just meant for that matter because when it comes to KYC integration then it is most likely or would rather be talking about government regulation
which these casinos need to comply.

Is there something that they can do? No. because if they are trying out not  to follow on whats been required then business would be closed and as a user of said platform then you would need to comply

but if you arent really that having some good impression with KYC then you could always have the choice on jumping to another one.

[magneto]

Obviously on one wants to do KYC.

But there are two main reasons why casinos would attempt to enforce it.

1. There is actual legislation that requires them to collect this info, in which case they have no choice but to collect it. Otherwise the government may crack down on their services.

OR

2. They are using KYC as an excuse to hold onto player funds, which is definitely the more commonplace practice imho. And the worst are the those who don't notify you of this beforehand.

Nothing the player can do about it, just avoid casinos with a reputation/track record of doing this.

[fortunecrypto]

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

The majority of these poker casinos and gambling sites do not ask for KYC because they know that many gamblers do not want to go through a KYC, they only ask it if the player has an issue on his account and wants to verify, if you have a new pokers site and ask KYC right away, that is something to be concern about, they should ask only when there's an issue and it should not a policy.

[Hippocrypto]

Obviously on one wants to do KYC.

But there are two main reasons why casinos would attempt to enforce it.

1. There is actual legislation that requires them to collect this info, in which case they have no choice but to collect it. Otherwise the government may crack down on their services.

OR

2. They are using KYC as an excuse to hold onto player funds, which is definitely the more commonplace practice imho. And the worst are the those who don't notify you of this beforehand.

Nothing the player can do about it, just avoid casinos with a reputation/track record of doing this.

Much better for the player to abide the rules and regulations if they trusted the casino that they usually been playing.
Casinos with no such reputation, I think it might put our friends funds at risk of losing it so let's think about it for so many times.
Government will take hold on our private informations, that's why compliance is very important but struggling for all users.

[Rabi3]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.

[Fundamentals Of]

Before I play in any online casino I always make sure I will not be asked for KYC or personal information. If I know that a casino will be asking me to undergo KYC verification I will reject it immediately. No online casino is so special to me that I will undergo KYC for its sake.

You should have also made sure that the app won't be requiring KYC from you before you registered and deposited your money. Now you don't have a choice if you want to withdraw your money.

[traderethereum]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.

i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.

If the casino uses crypto, it is better not to force their members to do KYC because not all of them want to do that and even search for the other casino.
Playing gambling using crypto means we are free to use the coin and we do not have to reveal who we are as it means anonym for the gamblers.
The gamblers can select which casino does not require KYC and can play gambling in any casino they want.
But forcing the gambler to verify themselves to play gambling is not a good idea, although the casino can insist on doing that to their members.

[KTChampions]

The majority of these poker casinos and gambling sites do not ask for KYC because they know that many gamblers do not want to go through a KYC, they only ask it if the player has an issue on his account and wants to verify, if you have a new pokers site and ask KYC right away, that is something to be concern about, they should ask only when there's an issue and it should not a policy.

Unfortunately, the market share of online casinos where KYC is needed is consistently greater than the share of those casinos where it can be avoided, and it seems to me that it is gradually increasing. Unfortunately, there is more and more regulation in the crypto and this is reflected in the business that is associated with the crypto.

[Oshosondy]

i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.

Governments will always have excuse, the gambling industry will not have option than to obey the government, government will say kyc is a means of regulation against money laundering and against terrorism and other criminals. But I have option because the crypto gambling sites that do not make verification necessary are many, I can still go for one of them rather than getting verified.

[michellee]

i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.

Governments will always have excuse, the gambling industry will not have option than to obey the government, government will say kyc is a means of regulation against money laundering and against terrorism and other criminals. But I have option because the crypto gambling sites that do not make verification necessary are many, I can still go for one of them rather than getting verified.

Oh well yeah, the government will always have an excuse. If something does not look like what they want, they can easily eliminate and make a new one. We already knew that and it was happening a long time ago. As long as there is a gambling site that does not require KYC, we can still play gambling without sending anything to them. I am sure the casino will be aware of the regulation and how they can still operate without the government interfering. We as a gambler also have an option to select where we want to gamble.

[Zilon]

Before I play in any online casino I always make sure I will not be asked for KYC or personal information. If I know that a casino will be asking me to undergo KYC verification I will reject it immediately. No online casino is so special to me that I will undergo KYC for its sake.

This is only if you don't get trapped by most of the enticing bonuses that comes with new users. The bonus can actually so entice you and you even forget to consider if the online casino requires KYC verification before withdrawal and the frustrating aspect is this KYC is only applicable to withdrawals but for deposits it's always very easy and smooth.

[KTChampions]

Oh well yeah, the government will always have an excuse. If something does not look like what they want, they can easily eliminate and make a new one. We already knew that and it was happening a long time ago. As long as there is a gambling site that does not require KYC, we can still play gambling without sending anything to them. I am sure the casino will be aware of the regulation and how they can still operate without the government interfering. We as a gambler also have an option to select where we want to gamble.

I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.

[Kittygalore]

I don't think that it's necessary for a poker casino unless there's no limit to how big the players can deposit in their site, I mean if it reaches around a 100k USD and above, we need to be able to track those people because we don't know if they are laundering money and it has been done a long time ago, launderers depositing money in a casino and then playing a small amount of it and then withdrawing the remaining money to make it look like they've won something big.

[michellee]

Oh well yeah, the government will always have an excuse. If something does not look like what they want, they can easily eliminate and make a new one. We already knew that and it was happening a long time ago. As long as there is a gambling site that does not require KYC, we can still play gambling without sending anything to them. I am sure the casino will be aware of the regulation and how they can still operate without the government interfering. We as a gambler also have an option to select where we want to gamble.

I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.

I believe that will happen in the future, especially when everything is set up and the casino is ready to launch a new service or a new casino that will offer a new experience to the gamblers. Ethereum will grow more than now because I think the project will still work hard to make sure that they still have more investors interested in that project. The government can not interfere with that but they can watch how the process runs.

[Obito]

I think it's necessary, I mean what could go wrong with that and poker websites just want to make sure that they comply with the laws, gambling can be an avenue for money laundering so I don't really mind having a KYC.

[KTChampions]

I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.

I believe that will happen in the future, especially when everything is set up and the casino is ready to launch a new service or a new casino that will offer a new experience to the gamblers. Ethereum will grow more than now because I think the project will still work hard to make sure that they still have more investors interested in that project. The government can not interfere with that but they can watch how the process runs.

Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.

[michellee]

I hope the development of cryptocurrencies (in this case, Ethereum 2) will allow the creation of really fast and cheap decentralized casinos in the future. In this case, the governments of the countries simply cannot do anything as now they cannot do anything with bitcoin.

I believe that will happen in the future, especially when everything is set up and the casino is ready to launch a new service or a new casino that will offer a new experience to the gamblers. Ethereum will grow more than now because I think the project will still work hard to make sure that they still have more investors interested in that project. The government can not interfere with that but they can watch how the process runs.

Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.

Even if that can happen, I am a bit worried if the government still wants to interfere and force the casino or online gambling sites to follow what they want to apply KYC for their members. If the casino follows the government's asks, they will apply for KYC, but if it's not, the members will have their time playing gambling without doing KYC. But still, I am sure that there will be an online gambling site far away from that government and never ask for the KYC from their members.

[bitterguy28]

I think it's necessary, I mean what could go wrong with that and poker websites just want to make sure that they comply with the laws, gambling can be an avenue for money laundering so I don't really mind having a KYC.

This remind me of one case here in forum that a account recently find out that he did joined in an event of poker in which from 8 participants he owns the 6 of them.

what i mean here is that if the event requires KYC then for sure he will never made it happen.

so KYC might be implemented in some ways but of course it is our choice to join or now, Me? i will never lol.

[KTChampions]

Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.

Even if that can happen, I am a bit worried if the government still wants to interfere and force the casino or online gambling sites to follow what they want to apply KYC for their members. If the casino follows the government's asks, they will apply for KYC, but if it's not, the members will have their time playing gambling without doing KYC. But still, I am sure that there will be an online gambling site far away from that government and never ask for the KYC from their members.

Yes, you are right - with the strictest regulation, there will be underground sites providing various services without KYC, including gambling.
If we talk about the dangers, I do not like that now the governments are trying to take control of the entire crypto. This is much more dangerous than regulation in certain areas.

[Reid]

It makes no sense if it is just for a few hundred dollars but for like 20 thousand above, it should be.
Just to avoid criminals just spinning their money using the casinos.
I have been used to no KYC ever since. From Yolodice to Sportsbet. None. Even if it takes like 0.1-0.3 BTC they are not even asking for anything just yet.
But of course, if you go above their limits then it must be done because they will be the ones having problems with authorities if they won't abide by the rules.
OP's example though is not necessary.

[AicecreaME]

If you think the amount of money in your account doesn't worth it with your personal information in return, then just ignore it and find another gambling platform that doesn't require KYC so your problem will be solved. In my opinion, providing your personal information just to be able to withdraw your funds is risky, however, it is not (I guess) if the gambling platform is well known by everybody especially the Government in your country.

[michellee]

Now, to play poker without a casino, people have to meet offline and do it. If Ethereum develops as planned, then the players will have the opportunity to do it online and no intermediary in the form of a casino will be needed and there will be no need for a KYC. I am very much looking forward to when this happens to see the reaction of the governments.

Even if that can happen, I am a bit worried if the government still wants to interfere and force the casino or online gambling sites to follow what they want to apply KYC for their members. If the casino follows the government's asks, they will apply for KYC, but if it's not, the members will have their time playing gambling without doing KYC. But still, I am sure that there will be an online gambling site far away from that government and never ask for the KYC from their members.

Yes, you are right - with the strictest regulation, there will be underground sites providing various services without KYC, including gambling.
If we talk about the dangers, I do not like that now the governments are trying to take control of the entire crypto. This is much more dangerous than regulation in certain areas.

I do not like but we can not do anything. It seems the government wants to use the moment to take control of the crypto and they can easily force not just the gambling site but the local exchanges because they are in their jurisdiction. If the government really conquer all the things on the internet in the name of the regulation, there will be a big demonstration happen in all countries because the internet means people have their own choice. But people will realize that they are still in their country.

[Smartprofit]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them  

I am against the KYC procedure....

What is this position based on?

The answer is obvious.  Currently, a digital concentration camp is being created in the world.  This is facilitated by the development of new technologies - Big Data, artificial intelligence, biometrics, CBDC, etc.  

Sharing your personal data with other people just to play online poker ?!  In my opinion, this is madness!  

I do not want to go through the KYC procedure.  Many online casinos do not insist on going through the KYC procedure.  And I am a supporter of confidentiality and anonymity.  

I'd rather play solitaire on the kitchen table than go through KYC and play online poker.

[johhnyUA]

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.

There is a big difference between KYC in any EU located casino or some noname casino in offshore which forcing you to pass KYC. In first case maybe even I would pass KYC, because at least i'm protected by EU laws. And in second - no one can guarantee you anything. So avoid offshore casinos which trying to trick you with KYC. They don't have any rights for this.

[DoublerHunter]

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.

There is a big difference between KYC in any EU located casino or some noname casino in offshore which forcing you to pass KYC. In first case maybe even I would pass KYC, because at least i'm protected by EU laws. And in second - no one can guarantee you anything. So avoid offshore casinos which trying to trick you with KYC. They don't have any rights for this.

^ So what are those differences? Does it matter where you are located at?
Probably because this was a part of their legalization that was heavily regulated by the government and casino does not have anything to do is just to follow government rules and jurisdictions. I think gambling casino has no option if they will force to acquire KYC procedure, that is probably a part of gambling casino that has a license, must be followed by the government and we know government hat of being anonymous. Nevertheless, I also hate a gambling casino that requires KYC, as long as there is another option to avoid those casinos, there is a chance that you cannot pass KYC verification.

[johhnyUA]

^ So what are those differences? Does it matter where you are located at?

of course, lol. Despite services (especially government) often get hacked it's still a big difference: Casinos and books located in EU or USA can't sell your data on dark markets. At least, they would be in a high risk if it would be public case. And shitty casinos from offshores which registered on fake people (sometime this is local hobos) will have less problems with that. So they are more probably to do so. Isn't it logical enough?

With EU casinos you're in less risk to be blackmailed and so on.

[goaldigger]

^ So what are those differences? Does it matter where you are located at?

of course, lol. Despite services (especially government) often get hacked it's still a big difference: Casinos and books located in EU or USA can't sell your data on dark markets. At least, they would be in a high risk if it would be public case. And shitty casinos from offshores which registered on fake people (sometime this is local hobos) will have less problems with that. So they are more probably to do so. Isn't it logical enough?

With EU casinos you're in less risk to be blackmailed and so on.

This is good to have good regulations for those casinos, i can say that in my country we are at risk on exposing our personal details because our law is not that strong and this is why many people don’t want KYC at all but with banks and casinos, I think its mandatory. Anyway, there’s a lot of good crypto site without any KYC you can try playing with them, that’s a good option if you want to remain anonymous gambler, just understand their terms of service because KYC can still be asked.

[Desmong]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

I still don't see a good reasons why a Gambling site will require KYC which is unnecessary for me cause gambling activities should not be taken seriously like exchanges that requires kyc for the protection of others users which can be scammed or use of fake alert and other illegal activities. KYC can be sold to third party paltforms which can be used against a user if necessary info of the user is gotten. Kyc is a vital information of a person which should not be disclosed to third parties mistakenly or not.

[gagux123]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

[Mahanton]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Gambling activities should be taken seriously? Dont know on why you dont presume out about the money involved with this activity?
You know that everything could really be targeted out in terms of taxation or something like that since it do really talks about very big revenue then its no surprise that
platforms would really be following some sort of requirement for them to continue to operate and this is something not new.
Some do follow and some isnt still able to require out thats why we do really have some options.

[harizen]

I still don't see a good reasons why a Gambling site will require KYC which is unnecessary for me cause gambling activities should not be taken seriously like exchanges that requires kyc for the protection of others users which can be scammed or use of fake alert and other illegal activities. KYC can be sold to third party paltforms which can be used against a user if necessary info of the user is gotten. Kyc is a vital information of a person which should not be disclosed to third parties mistakenly or not.

It's not about a gambling site because, in most fiat bookies, KYC is required.

What we are pointing here is, KYC shouldn't be necessary requirement for a crypto-gambling site. That's the purpose why we choose crypto in our gambling experience, to "partially" stay and keep our anonymity.

However, KYC might be valid at some point for crypto-gambling sites if the account has an alarming issue as it can help solve a problem of scam-related issues like sites can detect where the funds ended up once there's a complainant reporting a scam. But in that case, we should already accept the risks that scam in crypto is likely not to be solved in most cases.

[sunsilk]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

They do ask it because they're also asked to do so by the government that covers them. It's part of the regulation and that's why they're asking for KYC.

But if there's an option and it's not mandatory, there's no problem with that as the players will just keep going without anything to worry. So if you find the site where you've been playing poker has been mandating KYC, you can go to another one that's reputable that don't force it.

[Maslate]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

They do ask it because they're also asked to do so by the government that covers them. It's part of the regulation and that's why they're asking for KYC.

But if there's an option and it's not mandatory, there's no problem with that as the players will just keep going without anything to worry. So if you find the site where you've been playing poker has been mandating KYC, you can go to another one that's reputable that don't force it.

I actually hated to sends KYC verification before due to some rumors or that possibly it is going to happen but later on, it was to realize that is the security purposes that could help to protect us when hacking incidents surprisingly comes. This is for us but yes, it is an option to take but most sites now are encouraging gamblers to take that process in order to be fully verified. If that you have trusted the site, I think it was not a big problem, we have to think that it was for our own good.

[goinmerry]

I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Gambling sites are being pressured. Imagine someone can get away with a $10,000 single withdrawal or $50,000 and the government doesn't receive any tax.

Before, we didn't imagine exchanges will ask for KYC but since the centralized system is now taking over, we might end up in a mandatory KYC too on gambling sites, maybe around 5 years from now.

I hope it won't happen and just can be requested to us if there's something unusual on our account with valid basis.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

[Poker Player]

Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

Yeah, well, and if I could fly with a cape I'd be Superman.

Gambling sites are being pressured. Imagine someone can get away with a $10,000 single withdrawal or $50,000 and the government doesn't receive any tax.

Before, we didn't imagine exchanges will ask for KYC but since the centralized system is now taking over, we might end up in a mandatory KYC too on gambling sites, maybe around 5 years from now.

I think that is what is going to happen, little by little governments are going to force crypto casinos to carry strict KYC policies. It will not happen overnight, and I guess there will always be some casinos who escape, but there will be less and less offer to gamble anonymously.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

Well, it should be noted that the KYC is a requirement that they now give thanks to the number of licenses that are available for casinos, it is also necessary that it is much easier for countries to restrict them in that way than to do it directly with cryptos and although I will never agree with those policies because that comes from government regulations worldwide, casinos do have to adhere to it. There are casinos that when they are launched initially do not have licenses, after they reach them there are prohibited countries, so it is something contradictory, if you go more to the legal thing you harm many possible strong clients.

[peter0425]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Well, if money laundering scums would stop using gambling as a way to clean their money, that's probably the time that I would agree with you because KYC was created for that purpose, remember that we can't really blame those businesses looking for this because they can help identify suspicious personalities.

Well said .. if we will only consider why KYC is being required as the businesses of gambling will be in trouble if they wont comply to this government requirements . those scumbag must be blame for this because if they are not using gambling site as a Mixing place to hide their illegal funds sending then gambling site wont be required by this.
lets just comply or stop  using the site at all.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

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Yeah, well, and if I could fly with a cape I'd be Superman.

Well, that's rich for you to say. And you didn't even do it right the first time, shouldn't it be " if I have a cape, I'd be Superman" ? Since you want to say that I am saying some fallacy in my opinions?

[ethereumhunter]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.

[Wexnident]

Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.

But it is though, especially if required by the government where the casino is registered in. Afaik, even online casinos have countries where they are registered in, and those registrations require them to ask for KYC once a certain amount was breached by the player. It's nothing new really, and yes, there are casinos that don't require KYC, but hey, that might just be the countries not really asking for one. It's more on protection against underaged people really, and also preventing citizens from countries where gambling is banned from playing in their country.

[ethereumhunter]

Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.

But it is though, especially if required by the government where the casino is registered in. Afaik, even online casinos have countries where they are registered in, and those registrations require them to ask for KYC once a certain amount was breached by the player. It's nothing new really, and yes, there are casinos that don't require KYC, but hey, that might just be the countries not really asking for one. It's more on protection against underaged people really, and also preventing citizens from countries where gambling is banned from playing in their country.

I think the online casinos will try to register outside of the country, which requires KYC to not follow their rules. Although, in the end, if that online casino uses a license, they still need to apply for KYC, but the rules will not be too strict if they registered in a country that needs KYC. Yes, maybe that is for protection against underaged people, but as we know, underaged people can easily play online gambling as they can play at their homes. It will almost be the same for players from the country that gambling is banned because they will use VPN to bypass the connection.

[cafucafucafu]

Some casinos are forced to by their regulators and there is really no choice for them.

Others do use KYC as a means to retain customer funds without paying interest.

I'd say that the casino in question is probably the former and doing this because they have to, given that they are offering incentives for people to sign up to their site with KYC.

[Victorycoin]

Poker casino needs kyc  because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc  status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc  status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.

[iv4n]

Hmm, that will not be easy as we see many people trying to use gambling to make money, although they know it is too risky to use gambling that way. Some gamblers who do not think much about making money will only play gambling for fun and not seriously play.

But KYC is not necessarily needed in gambling, especially for online gambling. Fortunately, some crypto gambling sites do not require verification KYC for gamblers to avoid sending their documents to the casino.

But it is though, especially if required by the government where the casino is registered in. Afaik, even online casinos have countries where they are registered in, and those registrations require them to ask for KYC once a certain amount was breached by the player. It's nothing new really, and yes, there are casinos that don't require KYC, but hey, that might just be the countries not really asking for one. It's more on protection against underaged people really, and also preventing citizens from countries where gambling is banned from playing in their country.

It's because you can launder money in casinos too... you can use them as mixers! Where's money involved there are regulations...

Reality is harsh here... if you wish to play good poker with a lot of actions with many games you have to play fiat poker, still there's no good crypto poker place with many players!

And one more reality, we had Bitcoin poker games... from all the people who like to talk about poker we had just 10-20 active players, in the beginning, later even that fall apart! That's saying a lot about how many crypto-oriented people are interested in really playing poker!

[zanezane]

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However I don't think those launders are using casino for money laundering since there's a high risk you'll get caught, mostly they could use a mixer and has far better privacy.

That's what the money launderers want you to believe that they're not using that method, I mean we wouldn't know about it if it's not been used before so I think that it's better to have that KYC in place rather than wait for it to happen, it's all about prevention rather than cure.

[ipanks]

Poker casino needs kyc  because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc  status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc  status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.

But some online casinos will not use KYC for their members as they do not want to lose their members because KYC in crypto gambling is something that a gambler will stay away from the site. Maybe some gamblers will not have a problem by sending their document, but for the other, they will search for the other crypto gambling site. But the casino really knows about KYC so they do not force their members who do not withdraw big money to doing KYC. If the online casino does that, that will be a win-win solution for them.

[poldanmig]

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However I don't think those launders are using casino for money laundering since there's a high risk you'll get caught, mostly they could use a mixer and has far better privacy.

That's what the money launderers want you to believe that they're not using that method, I mean we wouldn't know about it if it's not been used before so I think that it's better to have that KYC in place rather than wait for it to happen, it's all about prevention rather than cure.

Right, I agree with you, it's better for us to do KYC after we register on the site, but of course we must also make sure that the site is really trusted and can guarantee to maintain our personal identity, because doing KYC has risks if This site is an untrusted site and they can misuse our data as a tool to cheat.
I see that many members here have experience with difficulty making large withdrawals and KYC is the reason.

[virasog]

Poker casino needs kyc  because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc  status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc  status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.

But some online casinos will not use KYC for their members as they do not want to lose their members because KYC in crypto gambling is something that a gambler will stay away from the site. Maybe some gamblers will not have a problem by sending their document, but for the other, they will search for the other crypto gambling site. But the casino really knows about KYC so they do not force their members who do not withdraw big money to doing KYC. If the online casino does that, that will be a win-win solution for them.

Making KYC mandatory will make people leave the casino and more than 40% of the users will not use the platform if there is KYC. People play online gambling because they want privacy and they do not want to disclose their identity. There could be number of reason for that and everyone has the right to maintain privacy.

[zanezane]

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Right, I agree with you, it's better for us to do KYC after we register on the site, but of course we must also make sure that the site is really trusted and can guarantee to maintain our personal identity, because doing KYC has risks if This site is an untrusted site and they can misuse our data as a tool to cheat.
I see that many members here have experience with difficulty making large withdrawals and KYC is the reason.

That should always go without saying because if you know that it's a shady site in the first place, it's already a common sense to not give your information for the supposed KYC verification. But besides all of that, it's better to have KYC than nothing.

[shield132]

But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today...

None casino asks for KYC documents when it comes to certain games. They ask for KYC documents in overall, when you use their platform/services. I believe not every casino wants to ask for KYC and make their customers uncomfortable but sometimes they are pushed by the government and the regulations that is in the area where they operate.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

When you use online casino, even if it is crypto one, you have to acknowledge the risk of asking KYC in order to withdraw from casinos, especially if we consider the fact that cryptocurrencies are getting more and more regulated and recently the number of crypto casinos asking for KYC has significantly rised.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I am against KYC, yeah, I don't like them but at the same time think about this, don't you want to know who are your customers? What if illegal transaction is made through your platform and then the government asks you for the users identity?

[panjul07]

Poker casino needs kyc  because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc  status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc  status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.

But some online casinos will not use KYC for their members as they do not want to lose their members because KYC in crypto gambling is something that a gambler will stay away from the site. Maybe some gamblers will not have a problem by sending their document, but for the other, they will search for the other crypto gambling site. But the casino really knows about KYC so they do not force their members who do not withdraw big money to doing KYC. If the online casino does that, that will be a win-win solution for them.

Making KYC mandatory will make people leave the casino and more than 40% of the users will not use the platform if there is KYC. People play online gambling because they want privacy and they do not want to disclose their identity. There could be number of reason for that and everyone has the right to maintain privacy.

Where did you get that number (40%), did you do some studies/researches to get the number or it is just a random wild guess?
Believe it or not, KYC will be a mandatory in all online services especially where money is involved.
It is due to regulation, can be from the government or from the license.
I was one of user who did against KYC but terms/rules are changing from time to time and I have to accept it if I want to use the service regularly.

[alegotardo]

I am against KYC, yeah, I don't like them but at the same time think about this, don't you want to know who are your customers? What if illegal transaction is made through your platform and then the government asks you for the users identity?

I reinforce what I said earlier about KYC.
For those who intend to bet on gambling just for fun and not for profit, you shouldn't be obliged to submit your data's person.
After all, that person is just consuming a service.

But... if the intention is to withdraw money (or crypto) from these services, then yes, KYC is required and I don't see anything against the site demanding this from customers. Provided, of course, they are advised of these rules in advance, not just when it's time to withdraw.

[Bitcoin Smith]

KYC verification means your safety will be publicly for the Casino people to understand your profile and your true identity that's why in recent times all the types of casinos try to to implement this KYC process to make it more trustable and more safer for the and investors that's why I also think that this will be e necessary for the investors.

[AicecreaME]

I am against KYC, yeah, I don't like them but at the same time think about this, don't you want to know who are your customers? What if illegal transaction is made through your platform and then the government asks you for the users identity?

I reinforce what I said earlier about KYC.
For those who intend to bet on gambling just for fun and not for profit, you shouldn't be obliged to submit your data's person.
After all, that person is just consuming a service.

But... if the intention is to withdraw money (or crypto) from these services, then yes, KYC is required and I don't see anything against the site demanding this from customers. Provided, of course, they are advised of these rules in advance, not just when it's time to withdraw.

I agree to this one.

However, there are gambling sites that will not let you play your unless you are a verified user in their platform, and others are just gonna remind you about the KYC if you're withdrawing the money (if it's big amount of winnings, something you're gonna have a hard time in completing your KYC) like they don't want you to have your winnings.

The only cons for me of submitting KYC is;
1. They might use it on something illegal

[3meek]

I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!

[Assface16678]

KYC verification means your safety will be publicly for the Casino people to understand your profile and your true identity that's why in recent times all the types of casinos try to to implement this KYC process to make it more trustable and more safer for the and investors that's why I also think that this will be e necessary for the investors.

I think that you're misunderstanding the idea of KYC, the only one that will see your personal infor is the website and the only public one that's shown is the status whether you're already verified. KYC is helpful if you don't want something to happen to you like having some sort of an issue with your withdrawals deposits and sometimes wins as this is the most common issues faced by people that don't have any KYC.

[semobo]

KYC verification means your safety will be publicly for the Casino people to understand your profile and your true identity that's why in recent times all the types of casinos try to to implement this KYC process to make it more trustable and more safer for the and investors that's why I also think that this will be e necessary for the investors.

I think that you're misunderstanding the idea of KYC, the only one that will see your personal infor is the website and the only public one that's shown is the status whether you're already verified. KYC is helpful if you don't want something to happen to you like having some sort of an issue with your withdrawals deposits and sometimes wins as this is the most common issues faced by people that don't have any KYC.

Websites stores the collected data safely but we can often read that databases on this platform got leaked even many service providers are not encrypting the collected data which makes the job very easier for the hackers and they will sell it on the darkweb which also we can find if we brose random topics from that only we are receiving unnecessary advertisements to our emails including our actual name and also SMS to out mobile numbers.

[dimonstration]

I think that you're misunderstanding the idea of KYC, the only one that will see your personal infor is the website and the only public one that's shown is the status whether you're already verified. KYC is helpful if you don't want something to happen to you like having some sort of an issue with your withdrawals deposits and sometimes wins as this is the most common issues faced by people that don't have any KYC.

KYC is needed nowadays especially that were in online transactions, it’s too hard to assess whether the money comes from scam or money laundering so it is needed bu the company even casinos to atleast have KYC before doing any transactions or atleast for the bigger amounts for documents if something happen. As well government interferring now in online gambling so they should have record for some business filing. We just need to make sure that the KYC process is run by a legit company.

[bitzizzix]

I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!

Yes, even if the casino has a valid operating license and has to use KYC, the concern will remain for fear of having my identity misused.
and i play gambling just for fun and not to make money so for me no need to send my personal id, because i realize gambling is not a good way to make money so i totally avoid KYC.
And when I want to try a new gambling site and I am required to use KYC I will go and I will look for a site that does not require KYC to avoid unwanted things.

[South Park]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

It is such a shame that something like that happened to you but this is why it is important to read reviews and read the TOS of the website before you make any deposit, I know that having to go through KYC policies no matter what is very annoying and it is not something I want to do either but at the end of the day you are the one that picked up the casino and decided to play there, I hope you can resolve the situation and next time be a little bit more careful.

[ninkdwi]

this is actually very reasonable to do because there are indeed several casinos or gambling sites that do the same thing (do KYC).
this is of course done not without reason, because indeed this is done at least to make it easier to identify the perpetrators in the gambling itself.
but on the other hand especially in the opposite corner (gambler's side) this is actually both an advantage and a disadvantage.
advantageous because indeed with KYC verification it can make access easier because it is already registered and has been accessed on its own behalf and it will automatically be difficult for others to manipulate it, but on the other hand it will be detrimental because it will be easy to record anywhere and will be caught when we do gambling.

[milewilda]

I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!

Yes, even if the casino has a valid operating license and has to use KYC, the concern will remain for fear of having my identity misused.
and i play gambling just for fun and not to make money so for me no need to send my personal id, because i realize gambling is not a good way to make money so i totally avoid KYC.
And when I want to try a new gambling site and I am required to use KYC I will go and I will look for a site that does not require KYC to avoid unwanted things.

We could really have always the options if we wanted to because each of us does have different perception towards kyc.Some doesnt really matter but most of us would really be that mindful.
We are aware about identity thefts or something like that but we should realize that we had been long time exposing our personal identity to the government but somehow if we do
consider the security of those informations compared into those unknown company online then you would really be having different perception between two things
so its up to you neither you would go or not.

[Fortify]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

About 5 years ago it used to be much more free and open when it came to playing online poker - as long as you had access to a credit/debit card they were willing to take your money (presumably using that to validate you were old enough). However I have definitely noticed that all the old places that I used to play now require you to send quite extensive documentation - personal ID scans, bank statement scans, utility bills, etc. in order to verify. They must be afraid of government crackdowns and take the most extreme measures to stay within money laundering regulations. It's quite disappointing in a way because I don't really trust these places to store such documentation safely and securely, nor to dispose of it after they've finished checking them.

[Smartprofit]

This is a very negative trend. 

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world. 

People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights.  About the Declaration of Human Rights.  One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence.  I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence. 

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle. 

Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.

[Lucasgabd]

This is a very negative trend.  

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world.  

People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights.  About the Declaration of Human Rights.  One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence.  I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence.  

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle.  

Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.

I agree that KYC will just incentive people to fake documents and to have less privacy
nothing new under the sun for governments

but this also brings the possibility for people to create permissionless Dapps for gambling that have no KYC and are provably fair

[DoublerHunter]

I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!

Yes, even if the casino has a valid operating license and has to use KYC, the concern will remain for fear of having my identity misused.
and i play gambling just for fun and not to make money so for me no need to send my personal id, because i realize gambling is not a good way to make money so i totally avoid KYC.
And when I want to try a new gambling site and I am required to use KYC I will go and I will look for a site that does not require KYC to avoid unwanted things.

^ I know how paranoid to think submitting KYC on the platform that we can't trust, but for me, if there is an option of having KYC in basic information, just like your name, email address, and phone number, that is alright because that is a basic KYC, but it different if the casino required your valid ID and together with your selfie, that is totally different and most likely I avoided. But if that is a basic KYC, there is no problem with me. Sometimes a regulated and have license exchange required to have KYC just to follow the country's jurisdiction. To tell you frankly, it is very comfortable to gamble on a gambling site that has a license.

[Kyraishi]

This is a very negative trend. 

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world. 

People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights.  About the Declaration of Human Rights.  One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence.  I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence. 

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle. 

Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.

For sure.

But unfortunately there is generally nothing that the sportsbooks can actually do in order to gain immunity from government regulations. It's just a matter of life that you'd have to live with.

Thankfully there are still alternatives out there that offer KYC-free services to players, including well known names such as Nitrogen and Stake. Hopefully they don't turn sour any time soon.

[sunsilk]

Well, I believe this judgment can be a little subjective and relative for some poker players.
I believe that some platforms these days still ask (obligation) to perform KYC, but I don't see great reasons for doing this, because as already commented by other users, I believe that gambling activities should not be taken so seriously, compared to other platforms that need the use of KYC.

They do ask it because they're also asked to do so by the government that covers them. It's part of the regulation and that's why they're asking for KYC.

But if there's an option and it's not mandatory, there's no problem with that as the players will just keep going without anything to worry. So if you find the site where you've been playing poker has been mandating KYC, you can go to another one that's reputable that don't force it.

I actually hated to sends KYC verification before due to some rumors or that possibly it is going to happen but later on, it was to realize that is the security purposes that could help to protect us when hacking incidents surprisingly comes. This is for us but yes, it is an option to take but most sites now are encouraging gamblers to take that process in order to be fully verified. If that you have trusted the site, I think it was not a big problem, we have to think that it was for our own good.

There is no rumor about KYC, some casinos do really do that and there's nothing to hide from that implementation on their end. That reasoning that you've just given about hacking incidents to prove that you're the actual owner of that account and fund looks good.

But everyone are safe browsers and won't allow themselves to get hacked unless it's the fault of the casino. Well, we just all have to bear with it and if you don't like that poker site anymore, shift to the other.

[Mahanton]

This is a very negative trend. 

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world. 

People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights.  About the Declaration of Human Rights.  One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence.  I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence. 

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle. 

Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.

For sure.

But unfortunately there is generally nothing that the sportsbooks can actually do in order to gain immunity from government regulations. It's just a matter of life that you'd have to live with.

Thankfully there are still alternatives out there that offer KYC-free services to players, including well known names such as Nitrogen and Stake. Hopefully they don't turn sour any time soon.

A business would undergo some regulation unless if its non regulated and no license to operate or something like that but its impossible to presume for that situation knowing that as long you do have
physical place or having a business which means you would need to pay up taxes because it cant really be considered legitimate if its not under any regulation or doesnt pay up tax as well.
Its an unavoidable on any business out there doesnt matter if its typical or casual businesses or in crypto based.Sooner or later they would really be following on whats
mandated.

[TheGreatPython]

I agree that KYC will just incentive people to fake documents and to have less privacy
nothing new under the sun for governments

but this also brings the possibility for people to create permissionless Dapps for gambling that have no KYC and are provably fair

Casinos with provably fair games like Dice are almost always going to operate with KYC and all those stuff. Casinos that have third-party slots and games are more likely to ask for documents because these providers pressure the casinos.

Fake verification is quite a hilarious trend in the market. There are people selling their identity to big players and even allowing them to get postal verification and anything else they might require. There's nothing the casino or the government can do when someone is selling their identity cheaply and the player simply uses a VPN for his country.

[michellee]

This is a very negative trend. 

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world. 

People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights.  About the Declaration of Human Rights.  One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence.  I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence. 

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle. 

Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.

For sure.

But unfortunately there is generally nothing that the sportsbooks can actually do in order to gain immunity from government regulations. It's just a matter of life that you'd have to live with.

Thankfully there are still alternatives out there that offer KYC-free services to players, including well known names such as Nitrogen and Stake. Hopefully they don't turn sour any time soon.

We are free to use the casino that does not require KYC to avoid submitting the document to the other party because we are really concerned about our privacy. The sportsbooks only follow what their government asks because that is related to their business. Maybe they can use general verification for their members and not use strict rules so they do not see their members moving to another casino requiring KYC. It could be a dilemma for the casino as they want to run their business without a problem but on the other side, they have been forced by the government to apply KYC.

[madnessteat]

There are many options to play poker without having to go through KYC if the player does not want to disclose his personal information to third parties or is concerned about their safety.

But even if you play at a casino that does not require you to pass the KYC, you should be prepared for the fact that at any time you will be asked to do so.

[btc78]

This is a very negative trend. 

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world. 

People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights.  About the Declaration of Human Rights.  One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence.  I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence. 

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle. 

Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.

but the gambling sites was being abused and the criminals and syndicates uses the Sites as their way to transport money safer without being noticed.
in short the gambling site acts as Mixing company for the funds to not shows who owns and to flow clearly safer in their part.
this was being proven for years now and this is the same reason why governments are requiring gambling operators to asks KYC for their players or will be shut down.
so either we want it or not , they are obliged to comply of they wanna continue doing business.

[Betwrong]

There are many options to play poker without having to go through KYC if the player does not want to disclose his personal information to third parties or is concerned about their safety.

But even if you play at a casino that does not require you to pass the KYC, you should be prepared for the fact that at any time you will be asked to do so.

Exactly. It happened to me 2 times already: when I was registering 2-3 years ago, no KYC was mentioned in the process, and this year they KYCed me to the bones.  I'm sure this trend will continue, and I have no problem with that, to be honest. When talking about KYC, we always mention terrorists and criminals, but we forget about corrupt officials, who, I think, launder more money than all terrorists and criminals combined. Those scumbags must be stopped from robbing their nations, and if KYC is a part of the war on them, I'm all for it.

Btw, can anyone say what they are afraid of exactly when providing a poker site with their personal details? Don't you think that even without the Internet dozens of entities know all that and more about you already?

[Lucasgabd]

I agree that KYC will just incentive people to fake documents and to have less privacy
nothing new under the sun for governments

but this also brings the possibility for people to create permissionless Dapps for gambling that have no KYC and are provably fair

Casinos with provably fair games like Dice are almost always going to operate with KYC and all those stuff. Casinos that have third-party slots and games are more likely to ask for documents because these providers pressure the casinos.

Fake verification is quite a hilarious trend in the market. There are people selling their identity to big players and even allowing them to get postal verification and anything else they might require. There's nothing the casino or the government can do when someone is selling their identity cheaply and the player simply uses a VPN for his country.

exactly, and your second paragraph is the bright side of the story
KYC requeriments creates an incentive for people to steal documents and for a parallel market to be created
just like with drugs, making something forbidden is not the way to stop it

I understand asking for a document in real life, but this is totally different than KYC on digital casinos or even exchanges

[worldofcoins]

I have noticed that too but in the Poker casinos that accept local currency, They have to pay the taxes when you refund and so do you.
They also have to keep track of people who deposit and if the money was stolen then the KYC info of that particular user can be shared with the authorities but it shouldn't be an issue with a Crypto-related Poker casino.

There are several poker apps "I won't name them here" that accept Cryptocurrency and don't ask for KYC more than Email verification which in itself is a security measure for your account/

[SirLancelot]

This is a very negative trend. 

Yes, crypto casinos are shifting towards centralization now.

There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world. 

I think a lot of players were playing from illegal jurisdictions which has forced casinos to require KYC. The gambling license provider needs to make sure things are in order and legal.

I am innocent and trustworthy by default.  KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle. 

To be honest, if you are both innocent and trustworthy then you should be happier with KYC because it provides you a better security in case your account is compromised. I am against this centralization of casinos too but have to admit KYC also offers some benefits.

[Sanugarid]

For me, the only necessary time that KYC is needed in a site that's offering poker is when the matches in those sites are high stakes, I mean you have to somehow make sure that you're not going to be duped or have your money taken by casino right so I think in a high stakes casino, it's better to have a KYC than have nothing at all.

[madnessteat]

~ Btw, can anyone say what they are afraid of exactly when providing a poker site with their personal details? Don't you think that even without the Internet dozens of entities know all that and more about you already?

There is a high probability that our personal data is already on the black market because very often state institutions are not able to provide their secure storage (at least in my country many databases from state institutions leaked into the network).

If you use cryptocurrency and pass the KYC you automatically connect your identity with wallet addresses. As practice shows in some countries the laws are retroactive. That's why many people don't want to lose their anonymity.

[Lanatsa]

I have noticed that too but in the Poker casinos that accept local currency, They have to pay the taxes when you refund and so do you.
They also have to keep track of people who deposit and if the money was stolen then the KYC info of that particular user can be shared with the authorities but it shouldn't be an issue with a Crypto-related Poker casino.

There are several poker apps "I won't name them here" that accept Cryptocurrency and don't ask for KYC more than Email verification which in itself is a security measure for your account/

When it comes to KYC implementations then expect that there would be lots of strings attached to it.  

Lots do hate KYC but if you do really eager on playing on a poker casino then you would just simply deal with it and agree.
Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

[pinggoki]

Well the question is a bit subjective because some people will favor the existence or lack thereof of KYC even in a poker casino site. Some may like KYC because of the added protection it offers to the customer or in this case you. Some will prefer the lack of KYC due to the accessibility and the fact that you can literally just signup and load your account and then you're good to go. Personally I prefer KYC on gambling sites that offer a lot of games because then I know there are huge possibilities of being hacked and being stolen from, at least for me. For sites that only offer one game, I'm okay with it not being KYC-packed.

For me, the only necessary time that KYC is needed in a site that's offering poker is when the matches in those sites are high stakes, I mean you have to somehow make sure that you're not going to be duped or have your money taken by casino right so I think in a high stakes casino, it's better to have a KYC than have nothing at all.

This makes sense. if it's for casual games that don't go over the thousands of dollars at stake I don't think it'll be worth the effort to invest on something as expansive as KYC, then again implementing KYC beforehand should also be a good thing anyway since you can never tell which poker games will be high stakes or not and for that matter it's better to offer the same type of security for all games within your site by adding KYC upon signup. That way everyone is secured and no one gets left out.

[john_nautica]

It depends where are you playing poker but if it was on a licensed gambling website I think you really need to complete the KYC but if you're afraid to play on the gambling sites where you should complete KYC I think you can play on alternative poker website such as https://swcpoker.club/ I mostly spend my time playing on the SWC poker they have good graphics and they don't require user to KYC.

[Betwrong]

~ Btw, can anyone say what they are afraid of exactly when providing a poker site with their personal details? Don't you think that even without the Internet dozens of entities know all that and more about you already?

There is a high probability that our personal data is already on the black market because very often state institutions are not able to provide their secure storage (at least in my country many databases from state institutions leaked into the network).

If you use cryptocurrency and pass the KYC you automatically connect your identity with wallet addresses. As practice shows in some countries the laws are retroactive. That's why many people don't want to lose their anonymity.

Laws shouldn't be retroactive, but, well, we are living in the world where not everything is like it should be. So, I can perfectly understand poker players living in some crazy countries where the less they know about you, the better, when they don't want to disclose themselves. However, I do believe that in most cases, it would be very hard to extract your personal info from a poker site located in another country or a third party KYC company.

[madnessteat]

^

I don't see the point in guessing how protected your personal data is. I perfectly understand people who don't pass the KYC because as I told many times before there is a big enough number of sites that offer users the game of poker without the need to provide their personal data which allows to completely eliminate the risk of leakage of personal data to the black market.

Here is an example of one of such sites - https://t.me/pokerton_chat_en (not advertising) 

[Lucasgabd]

I have noticed that too but in the Poker casinos that accept local currency, They have to pay the taxes when you refund and so do you.
They also have to keep track of people who deposit and if the money was stolen then the KYC info of that particular user can be shared with the authorities but it shouldn't be an issue with a Crypto-related Poker casino.

There are several poker apps "I won't name them here" that accept Cryptocurrency and don't ask for KYC more than Email verification which in itself is a security measure for your account/

When it comes to KYC implementations then expect that there would be lots of strings attached to it.  

Lots do hate KYC but if you do really eager on playing on a poker casino then you would just simply deal with it and agree.
Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

the thing is we get used to small actions like this that remove our privacy without a clear benefit for people
but on the other hand I also understand you problem and think that is not such a big deal to show your documents to KYC in real life
though in the virtual world it should be different

[chaser15]

Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

That was the basic response if you are new to the site.

But what if your favorite site implements that? Can you still apply that find another place argument? It's not easy to just try a non-reputable site just to avoid KYC that's why at least these reputable sites will not implement KYC.

I don't see any sense of underdoing a KYC where you are only a casual gambler. No way I will submit my personal ID and documents for a $100-$200 budget activity for gambling every 2 weeks or a month.

[Peanutswar]

I have noticed that too but in the Poker casinos that accept local currency, They have to pay the taxes when you refund and so do you.
They also have to keep track of people who deposit and if the money was stolen then the KYC info of that particular user can be shared with the authorities but it shouldn't be an issue with a Crypto-related Poker casino.

There are several poker apps "I won't name them here" that accept Cryptocurrency and don't ask for KYC more than Email verification which in itself is a security measure for your account/

When it comes to KYC implementations then expect that there would be lots of strings attached to it.  

Lots do hate KYC but if you do really eager on playing on a poker casino then you would just simply deal with it and agree.
Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

The cryptocurrency gambling platforms today are now widely implemented their KYC verification for their players to make sure they are not just a spam and legit players also to make another layer of security for the users and the platform itself some of the users does not want to have this kind of new feature because they don't want to give their personal information, some of the platform have their level of verification depends on them how it works, but if the player does not want this kind of feature they have the rights to freely not play with this platform and look for another. The end of the day players decision still.

[hahay]

Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

That was the basic response if you are new to the site.

But what if your favorite site implements that? Can you still apply that find another place argument? It's not easy to just try a non-reputable site just to avoid KYC that's why at least these reputable sites will not implement KYC.

I don't see any sense of underdoing a KYC where you are only a casual gambler. No way I will submit my personal ID and documents for a $100-$200 budget activity for gambling every 2 weeks or a month.

For me, KYC in gambling is something that makes me very uncomfortable. Therefore, when my favorite gambling site implements KYC, I personally will give it up and look for other sites that still have a reputation but don't need KYC. There are still many famous gambling sites available out there that do not implement this, so for now there are still many alternatives for me personally to change sites and that might be the best way for me at this time.

[Maslate]

Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

That was the basic response if you are new to the site.

But what if your favorite site implements that? Can you still apply that find another place argument? It's not easy to just try a non-reputable site just to avoid KYC that's why at least these reputable sites will not implement KYC.

I don't see any sense of underdoing a KYC where you are only a casual gambler. No way I will submit my personal ID and documents for a $100-$200 budget activity for gambling every 2 weeks or a month.

For me, KYC in gambling is something that makes me very uncomfortable. Therefore, when my favorite gambling site implements KYC, I personally will give it up and look for other sites that still have a reputation but don't need KYC. There are still many famous gambling sites available out there that do not implement this, so for now there are still many alternatives for me personally to change sites and that might be the best way for me at this time.

That's what I thought to see gamblers will find other sites that don't mind asking about KYC on their players. As for me, KYC doesn't necessary and our privacy is much necessary than this. I don't think how this becomes an urge from them.

I know that some people are using gambling sites to protect their illegal activities become noticeable by others as they certainly found anonymous but this couldn't help to stop this. As for the countless numbers of gambling sites that existed today (known/not known) they can still make it. 

[sujonali1819]

To be honest as I know when you get a licences from a Licence provider they have individual rules to make the Business legal. I think KYC comes from there. And Gambling platform is forced to ask pass KYC the players. This is actually a rules from the Licence provider imo. But it keeps clam the players till it done for only FIAT depositor. And id For crypto any platform ask KYC I don't suggest to play there.

[poldanmig]

Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

That was the basic response if you are new to the site.

But what if your favorite site implements that? Can you still apply that find another place argument? It's not easy to just try a non-reputable site just to avoid KYC that's why at least these reputable sites will not implement KYC.

I don't see any sense of underdoing a KYC where you are only a casual gambler. No way I will submit my personal ID and documents for a $100-$200 budget activity for gambling every 2 weeks or a month.

actually the implementation of kyc carried out by casinos is not a bad thing if indeed the casino is a trusted casino and gets an official license from the government, I think the kyc rule is a decision from the authority of a country to prevent money laundering from players on the site, all sites those who have gambling licenses from reputable organizations must follow the rules for verifying player accounts, so that the government can properly supervise the site and the players.

[AakZaki]

That's one case of why I think at the least the most basic of a KYC should be implemented. I meam you're right it's a choice but I think everyone should implement this because people knows how to abuse the system and the system shouldn't give them any chance on abusing it.

Maybe a lot of people will shy away from KYC. But I don't think that will be possible. There may be some casino packages without KYC but of course it has simpler features because of course the official casino knows the risks. I think it's only natural that casinos have a legal obligation to provide a KYC for verification. This means that the Casino requires doing KYC to save what they have, they don't want to get in trouble for breaking the rules. For us, we may feel a little doubtful, but that is the risk of what we want to play at the casino. So as long as the Casino is responsible I don't think we need to worry.

[harizen]

actually the implementation of kyc carried out by casinos is not a bad thing if indeed the casino is a trusted casino and gets an official license from the government, I think the kyc rule is a decision from the authority of a country to prevent money laundering from players on the site, all sites those who have gambling licenses from reputable organizations must follow the rules for verifying player accounts, so that the government can properly supervise the site and the players.

It's not convenient as new users will also have to comply with that. If let's say all reputable gambling sites that are mostly used today will implement KYC, you have to deal with KYC at each and that's not good for a regular gambler who plays at different sites.

It will also affect the promotion of the site as no one will test a site if there's a KYC before you can play there. Like a player that will test a small $ to play on the site but can't do it because it needs KYC. Offering fun money won't work there too because the excitement will only be felt by real money gambling. 

KYC should only be on fiat gambling because most fiat casinos accounts are linked with bank accounts that are more prone to money laundering.

[24Kt]

actually the implementation of kyc carried out by casinos is not a bad thing if indeed the casino is a trusted casino and gets an official license from the government, I think the kyc rule is a decision from the authority of a country to prevent money laundering from players on the site, all sites those who have gambling licenses from reputable organizations must follow the rules for verifying player accounts, so that the government can properly supervise the site and the players.

It's not convenient as new users will also have to comply with that. If let's say all reputable gambling sites that are mostly used today will implement KYC, you have to deal with KYC at each and that's not good for a regular gambler who plays at different sites.

It will also affect the promotion of the site as no one will test a site if there's a KYC before you can play there. Like a player that will test a small $ to play on the site but can't do it because it needs KYC. Offering fun money won't work there too because the excitement will only be felt by real money gambling. 

KYC should only be on fiat gambling because most fiat casinos accounts are linked with bank accounts that are more prone to money laundering.

But with changing government regulations and with the requirements from their gambling license, some crypto casinos are forced to require their players to comply with KYC. And I think, they can't do much about it but follow the laws, or else, they will lose their license. So for now, just look for casinos without KYC and they are still a lot of them anyway.

[Cling18]

Really necessary? They would really be asking it out and if you don't like then simply skip and find another place.

That was the basic response if you are new to the site.

But what if your favorite site implements that? Can you still apply that find another place argument? It's not easy to just try a non-reputable site just to avoid KYC that's why at least these reputable sites will not implement KYC.

I don't see any sense of underdoing a KYC where you are only a casual gambler. No way I will submit my personal ID and documents for a $100-$200 budget activity for gambling every 2 weeks or a month.

If they're reputable and trusted, then I would entrust them my personal detail as long as I would have an assurance that they would be secured and protected. Yes, it's hard to submit KYC on different sites so I will only pick the best and most reputable one. KYC has an important function too and it's also for our own good.

[traderethereum]

actually the implementation of kyc carried out by casinos is not a bad thing if indeed the casino is a trusted casino and gets an official license from the government, I think the kyc rule is a decision from the authority of a country to prevent money laundering from players on the site, all sites those who have gambling licenses from reputable organizations must follow the rules for verifying player accounts, so that the government can properly supervise the site and the players.

It's not convenient as new users will also have to comply with that. If let's say all reputable gambling sites that are mostly used today will implement KYC, you have to deal with KYC at each and that's not good for a regular gambler who plays at different sites.

It will also affect the promotion of the site as no one will test a site if there's a KYC before you can play there. Like a player that will test a small $ to play on the site but can't do it because it needs KYC. Offering fun money won't work there too because the excitement will only be felt by real money gambling. 

KYC should only be on fiat gambling because most fiat casinos accounts are linked with bank accounts that are more prone to money laundering.

But with changing government regulations and with the requirements from their gambling license, some crypto casinos are forced to require their players to comply with KYC. And I think, they can't do much about it but follow the laws, or else, they will lose their license. So for now, just look for casinos without KYC and they are still a lot of them anyway.

Indeed. But the player will have their own choice to play gambling on the site that they think will not request doing KYC.
Even if many gambling sites need to comply with KYC, I am sure some other gambling sites will not asking about KYC to their members and the government can not force them.
KYC or not, for crypto gamblers, they better use the gambling site free from KYC because they do not want to get a problem by submitting their private document.
The government itself should realize that and will not try to search for how they can get the KYC from the online casino that is not in their jurisdiction.

[Poker Player]

I don't see mentioned that in poker, unlike other casino games, there is another reason to implement kyc, apart from the typical anti money laundering reason: to avoid collusion. If you don't identify individual players with a different identity each, you can have two or three players at a table who are playing together from the same place ( knowing what cards each one of them has.

[Luzin]

The government itself should realize that and will not try to search for how they can get the KYC from the online casino that is not in their jurisdiction.

Maybe this is what makes us doubt. Choice of providing data for kyc or not playing casino. Indeed, there are concerns because our data can be misused. But I think the casino that does KYC is a good casino, he seems to stick to the rules and doesn't want to have a problem with the rules. Regarding this law, such as the issue of Binance which was sued by several countries, they decided on the IP. Because they are not licensed in some of those countries.

I think in the end it's just a matter of money, they ask for income tax for countries that have a lot of users. Casino also looks like he should have the force of law. Because if the casino is online then the reach is world. The casino can be sued by any of the countries around the world. Sorry if I am wrong.

[Wexnident]

Maybe this is what makes us doubt. Choice of providing data for kyc or not playing casino. Indeed, there are concerns because our data can be misused. But I think the casino that does KYC is a good casino, he seems to stick to the rules and doesn't want to have a problem with the rules. Regarding this law, such as the issue of Binance which was sued by several countries, they decided on the IP. Because they are not licensed in some of those countries.

Whether a casino is "good" or "bad" is a separate matter really, the issue here is that your details are directly linked into an online database of the casino. Once that certain casino causes a leak or is hacked, no matter how "good" the casino is, your personal details would still be leaked nonetheless. It's a small possibility yes, but a possibility nonetheless. That's only a small part though, since there are still casinos that could leak said data.

Indeed. But the player will have their own choice to play gambling on the site that they think will not request doing KYC.
Even if many gambling sites need to comply with KYC, I am sure some other gambling sites will not asking about KYC to their members and the government can not force them.

They can though. Preventing players from gambling is pretty much the direct option for when players don't want to present their KYC.

[traderethereum]

The government itself should realize that and will not try to search for how they can get the KYC from the online casino that is not in their jurisdiction.

Maybe this is what makes us doubt. Choice of providing data for kyc or not playing casino. Indeed, there are concerns because our data can be misused. But I think the casino that does KYC is a good casino, he seems to stick to the rules and doesn't want to have a problem with the rules. Regarding this law, such as the issue of Binance which was sued by several countries, they decided on the IP. Because they are not licensed in some of those countries.

I think in the end it's just a matter of money, they ask for income tax for countries that have a lot of users. Casino also looks like he should have the force of law. Because if the casino is online then the reach is world. The casino can be sued by any of the countries around the world. Sorry if I am wrong.

I am concerned about the customer's data misuse because we do not know what they will do with our personal data.
But somehow, I still do not prefer to use casinos that require KYC as playing gambling for some people is just for fun and not trying to make money.
Maybe in this pandemic, the government sees that online gambling grows faster than a few years ago so they think that will be a good income for the country if they can force the casino to follow their new rules.
Yes, it is about money because the government wants to get more income tax from many businesses, especially in this pandemic, their income drop drastically.
The government sees this as an opportunity to gain benefits from online gambling.

[7788bitcoin]

~
But what if your favorite site implements that? Can you still apply that find another place argument? It's not easy to just try a non-reputable site just to avoid KYC that's why at least these reputable sites will not implement KYC.

The reputation you are talking about is the number of years they are in the market right. If you are registered legally then you will be forced to comply with KYC because it is a global norm and if you are playing in sites that does not enforce them you need to understand that they are still in the grey side of things but their reputation in the market will give them the necessary trust.

I don't see any sense of underdoing a KYC where you are only a casual gambler. No way I will submit my personal ID and documents for a $100-$200 budget activity for gambling every 2 weeks or a month.

They are implementing these, either they are registered according to the government rules and regulation and not in off shores free markets and once that are registered in free markets would enable KYC if they are giving away promotions and there will be users trying to take advantage of them and for them to avoid abuse they will enforce KYC or provide incentives to verify everything.

[molsewid]

I am concerned about the customer's data misuse because we do not know what they will do with our personal data.
But somehow, I still do not prefer to use casinos that require KYC as playing gambling for some people is just for fun and not trying to make money.
Maybe in this pandemic, the government sees that online gambling grows faster than a few years ago so they think that will be a good income for the country if they can force the casino to follow their new rules.
Yes, it is about money because the government wants to get more income tax from many businesses, especially in this pandemic, their income drop drastically.
The government sees this as an opportunity to gain benefits from online gambling.

I think every gambler will be concerned too about giving their personal details in a poker casino because some or many of the gamblers didn't want to disclosed their personal details and the fear that it may be misused is highly prioritize. Some of the gamblers too didn't come to casino or online casino to earn money but some are just here for fun. Somehow, I would agree with you mate that this kind of regulation was required by the government to impose a tax to a gamblers which of course one of the way of a government to earn money.

[Betwrong]

^

I don't see the point in guessing how protected your personal data is. I perfectly understand people who don't pass the KYC because as I told many times before there is a big enough number of sites that offer users the game of poker without the need to provide their personal data which allows to completely eliminate the risk of leakage of personal data to the black market.

Here is an example of one of such sites - https://t.me/pokerton_chat_en (not advertising) 

To me, we are talking more about the future here. I think KYC will be required everywhere in the nearest future.  Maybe some shady sites will not require it, but most gamblers will be avoiding those sites for obvious reasons.

I don't see mentioned that in poker, unlike other casino games, there is another reason to implement kyc, apart from the typical anti money laundering reason: to avoid collusion. If you don't identify individual players with a different identity each, you can have two or three players at a table who are playing together from the same place ( knowing what cards each one of them has.

Can't they be different persons in different parts of the world and still be doing this? When I play I always allow that possibility, and that's why I prefer tournaments with several tables at least to minimize the chance of  such cheaters sitting with me at the same table. In short, in the current world KYC is hardly an effective way of avoiding collusion.

[pauloaragaomelo]

$200 is a big amount for people like me who are living in a third world country if I can withdraw it without depositing a big amount of money and do not have to play but it's not possible of course they want you to lose that bonus and the money that you deposited and at the same time do KYC, so I don't think I will take a bite on this kind of offer. 

Almost the average person will refuse to provide an identity for whatever the offer is for fear of having their identity card misused, you have to verify the platform and make sure it doesn't specify the KYC obligation rules then it will be better before you deposit funds to the poker platform.

[goinmerry]

Almost the average person will refuse to provide an identity for whatever the offer is for fear of having their identity card misused, you have to verify the platform and make sure it doesn't specify the KYC obligation rules then it will be better before you deposit funds to the poker platform.

Actually, almost all of the average people you are talking about don't have a problem with complying with KYC.

The only problem is, it should not be applicable to a crypto-gambling site where operations and services are different compare to crypto exchanges.

If there's a time that my preferred gambling site will ask for KYC, I'm sorry but I need to find another one. I don't really feel comfortable being a public person on my gambling activity. It's a personal thing.

[qwertyup23]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

The purpose of KYC is to protect the gambling establishment of fraud and other scams. While it may add an extra layer of security on the gambling website, it also provides a huge risk for gamblers in terms of their safety and identity as it is been exposed to the gambling website. That is why, I highly suggest that people should submit KYC documents to familiar gambling websites to also add a layer of security on their end.

Personally, I would avoid gambling websites that mandates KYC documents as a pre-requisite in withdrawing your funds. It is just too risky to expose your identity in an online set-up where anyone can have access on it.

[Sanugarid]

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since you can never tell which poker games will be high stakes or not and for that matter it's better to offer the same type of security for all games within your site by adding KYC upon signup. That way everyone is secured and no one gets left out.

You can actually tell if thr sites wants to label the site that they want to be high stakes, I mean they can easily declare that to enter a room, there's a minimum amount that will indicate that it's a high stakes game.

[Furious 7]

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

The purpose of KYC is to protect the gambling establishment of fraud and other scams. While it may add an extra layer of security on the gambling website, it also provides a huge risk for gamblers in terms of their safety and identity as it is been exposed to the gambling website. That is why, I highly suggest that people should submit KYC documents to familiar gambling websites to also add a layer of security on their end.

Personally, I would avoid gambling websites that mandates KYC documents as a pre-requisite in withdrawing your funds. It is just too risky to expose your identity in an online set-up where anyone can have access on it.

But I am sure that famous gambling sites must have a secure way so that the user's identity cannot be accessed by others so that this will be the secret of the team to secure the identity of those who do so much KYC, of course this is an extra layer but some are still reluctant to KYC but I don't think it's a big deal if we already believe in the gamble.

But this has become a consequence that must be obeyed if gambling implements it, but it is a fact that the requirements in the future will be much stricter to secure user accounts.

[Alisha-k]

I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds

[Oilacris]

I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds

KYC for the sake of regulating addiction and management of funds? This isnt something a solid reason on why they've been implementing this stuff.It all matters with regulation because if you do look

at on this market then it all matters with anonymity but since these platforms are regulated then it isnt surprising that sooner or later they would really be implementing this as it been asked
and they wont have any choice.

This isnt something about those fund management or something bullshit reason.

[traderethereum]

I am concerned about the customer's data misuse because we do not know what they will do with our personal data.
But somehow, I still do not prefer to use casinos that require KYC as playing gambling for some people is just for fun and not trying to make money.
Maybe in this pandemic, the government sees that online gambling grows faster than a few years ago so they think that will be a good income for the country if they can force the casino to follow their new rules.
Yes, it is about money because the government wants to get more income tax from many businesses, especially in this pandemic, their income drop drastically.
The government sees this as an opportunity to gain benefits from online gambling.

I think every gambler will be concerned too about giving their personal details in a poker casino because some or many of the gamblers didn't want to disclosed their personal details and the fear that it may be misused is highly prioritize. Some of the gamblers too didn't come to casino or online casino to earn money but some are just here for fun. Somehow, I would agree with you mate that this kind of regulation was required by the government to impose a tax to a gamblers which of course one of the way of a government to earn money.

Maybe I think the government can ask for the casino's taxes and not try to force the casino to add KYC requirements on their site to their members.
The casino itself will not lose its members because of KYC verifications and the casino can still pay the taxes without anything hide from the government.
Maybe that can work in online gambling or offline gambling as the government still getting taxes from the casino while the casino can getting more members because they do not use KYC.
If that can be like that, it will be a win-win solution for the casino and the government and the gambler will benefit because they do not have to expose their identity to anyone side.

[rodskee]

I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds

Not true , this thread must be for everyone and for me practically this must be for the newbies also because mostly they are the victim of casinos in this KYC thing .

some gambling site does not require KYC when you starts playing or even account creation , but when they finally needs to withdraw then KYC will be revealed and needs to comply or else you will never get your funds.

but good that there are site who requires KYC from the beginning .

[tabas]

I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best

It's for everyone that's interested about poker and open to discuss what you feel about the need of having a KYC for most poker sites.

but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds

There's pros and cons on it and different opinions will matter into it because we're having different experiences when we are asked KYC when we are about to withdraw from a casino.

[mv1986]

I guess this thread is reserved for consistent poker players who have played and earned enough to be withdrawn since the know best but I know some casinos demand for KYC upon registration and some when you want to withdraw your wins but what ever the case casinos demanding for KYC shouldn't really be a bad idea atleast it might help regulate addiction and management of funds

Not true , this thread must be for everyone and for me practically this must be for the newbies also because mostly they are the victim of casinos in this KYC thing .

some gambling site does not require KYC when you starts playing or even account creation , but when they finally needs to withdraw then KYC will be revealed and needs to comply or else you will never get your funds.

but good that there are site who requires KYC from the beginning .

This is what annoyed me a hundred times already. They should conduct the KYC process right when you register with them and they should also let you know whether you are all set or not before they accept the first deposits. But they know they get you stuck and when you want o withdraw time plays in their favor because they delay the process and hope that you start using your money again and perhaps lose it all. There are only a few providers where the KYC process is super fast and seamless. The harder the KYC process, the less legitimate is the website in my opinion.

[michellee]

This is what annoyed me a hundred times already. They should conduct the KYC process right when you register with them and they should also let you know whether you are all set or not before they accept the first deposits. But they know they get you stuck and when you want o withdraw time plays in their favor because they delay the process and hope that you start using your money again and perhaps lose it all. There are only a few providers where the KYC process is super fast and seamless. The harder the KYC process, the less legitimate is the website in my opinion.

Some casinos show the requirement to fills KYC for their members and it is written in their Terms and Conditions but most gamblers do not aware of this instead still register on that site and deposit some money. After they win some money and want to withdraw the win money, they knew that the casino asked them to fill KYC, which made them feel trick. Usually, the KYC process does not take a long time so the gamblers can continue withdrawing the money.

[TheGreatPython]

Whether a casino is "good" or "bad" is a separate matter really, the issue here is that your details are directly linked into an online database of the casino. Once that certain casino causes a leak or is hacked, no matter how "good" the casino is, your personal details would still be leaked nonetheless. It's a small possibility yes, but a possibility nonetheless. That's only a small part though, since there are still casinos that could leak said data.

If they are good or bad plays a bigger role when you are giving your KYC as well. Think about it this way, you are already forced to give your KYC, so you can decline and move to another place and that would be the end of it, however if you decide to stay would you rather do it for a casino that looks shady and may get "hacked" and take everyone's money and goes blank? Or would you rather do it for a place like stake that is true to their word for nearly a decade now?

It is not even about not wanting to be scammed, it is about my KYC being at the hands of a place that is shady, because shady casinos could scam your money but they could also use your KYC or even sell your KYC as well, so that is why it is always a lot worse for a bad place to have your information, which I believe is the difference between a bad casino and a good casino having your information.

[Naficopa]

It is better that the casino requires you to pass the KYC verification at the very beginning than, as is in some cases passing, when you want to withdraw money.
When it comes to the KYC requirement itself, there is already such a large selection of casinos on the market that you can easily find one that does not require it.
In my opinion, if someone changed the form of the game from fiat to crypto, it is in order to be anonymous, so the requirement of KYC if someone only plays cryptocurrencies should not be required.

[madnessteat]

^

It depends on the requirements of the regulatory authorities, not the desire of the casino or gamblers. You want to get a license for gambling, be kind to ensure the process of identification and verification of the customer, regardless of what types of deposits are available at the gaming site.

[mv1986]

This is what annoyed me a hundred times already. They should conduct the KYC process right when you register with them and they should also let you know whether you are all set or not before they accept the first deposits. But they know they get you stuck and when you want o withdraw time plays in their favor because they delay the process and hope that you start using your money again and perhaps lose it all. There are only a few providers where the KYC process is super fast and seamless. The harder the KYC process, the less legitimate is the website in my opinion.

Some casinos show the requirement to fills KYC for their members and it is written in their Terms and Conditions but most gamblers do not aware of this instead still register on that site and deposit some money. After they win some money and want to withdraw the win money, they knew that the casino asked them to fill KYC, which made them feel trick. Usually, the KYC process does not take a long time so the gamblers can continue withdrawing the money.

It is not the point that they do require KYC at all, it is the point that they let you deposit but not withdrawal. It doesn't make a lot of sense from a money laundering standpoint because what is going to happen with the money afterwards? In most of the cases they just deactivate your account and keep it for themselves. They can just erase your data from the database and pretend you have never been on their platform once they are sure you are not going to pass their KYC requirements.
Also, many of them say in their T&C that they "might" conduct KYC if they deem it necessary. Sure, it is always necessary when you win, right?

[Desmong]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

This is really strange to me and I don't think I would ever think doing kyc just to paly games on platforms that require kyc which is unnecessary to me. Kyc data is not something that needs to be disclosed to on internet especially when betting which can be another form of tracking down customers if the need arise.There are many  gambling platforms that have poker casinos and are well to do without kyc which re even more better and flexible with good bonuses, so why will I risk my info for a penny.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~

This is really strange to me and I don't think I would ever think doing kyc just to paly games on platforms that require kyc which is unnecessary to me. Kyc data is not something that needs to be disclosed to on internet especially when betting which can be another form of tracking down customers if the need arise.There are many  gambling platforms that have poker casinos and are well to do without kyc which re even more better and flexible with good bonuses, so why will I risk my info for a penny.

^ As long as you can choose a gambling site that never asks KYC for poker you are good to go. There are few gambling sites that you can gamble without submitting KYC verification until there is no one left and then you are entitled to submit KYC procedures upon using them. Let us accept that from time to time it is being a part to have a mandatory KYC verification. We should carefully choose which is the legit one to use that we can trust to hold our documents in long run. Because there is nothing we can do if everything is following local jurisdictions and the law.

[South Park]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

About 5 years ago it used to be much more free and open when it came to playing online poker - as long as you had access to a credit/debit card they were willing to take your money (presumably using that to validate you were old enough). However I have definitely noticed that all the old places that I used to play now require you to send quite extensive documentation - personal ID scans, bank statement scans, utility bills, etc. in order to verify. They must be afraid of government crackdowns and take the most extreme measures to stay within money laundering regulations. It's quite disappointing in a way because I don't really trust these places to store such documentation safely and securely, nor to dispose of it after they've finished checking them.

It is such a shame, I remember those days as well, you could play against a lot of people in fiat casinos and still the amount of information that you were asked for was on the low side which is why at that time I was happy to play poker online, but then things began to change and they asked you a whole lot of information and that is when I decided it was not worth to let go of my privacy as poker rooms began to ask all kind of information that is not really necessary for them.

[mv1986]

Hello guys,
Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app.

Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?

And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC.

What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them 

About 5 years ago it used to be much more free and open when it came to playing online poker - as long as you had access to a credit/debit card they were willing to take your money (presumably using that to validate you were old enough). However I have definitely noticed that all the old places that I used to play now require you to send quite extensive documentation - personal ID scans, bank statement scans, utility bills, etc. in order to verify. They must be afraid of government crackdowns and take the most extreme measures to stay within money laundering regulations. It's quite disappointing in a way because I don't really trust these places to store such documentation safely and securely, nor to dispose of it after they've finished checking them.

It is such a shame, I remember those days as well, you could play against a lot of people in fiat casinos and still the amount of information that you were asked for was on the low side which is why at that time I was happy to play poker online, but then things began to change and they asked you a whole lot of information and that is when I decided it was not worth to let go of my privacy as poker rooms began to ask all kind of information that is not really necessary for them.

Most of the casinos collect personal data of their players even though they aren't even allowed to provide their services within many of the countries as they lack the licenses. That is what is happening in Europe in a couple of countries. Most of them are registered in Malta, but that doesn't mean they can offer services to players of other European Union countries. They even have to reimburse players in some cases for lost money for the last three years.