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July 30, 2021, 09:59:20 PM
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What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC

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July 30, 2021, 10:04:44 PM
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Well, as long as we can avoid KYC --there was always a way to find a gambling site that does not have the required KYC.
I am before playing with Fair Poker and so far there are no KYC procedures at that time. But I don't know if that is reasonable to have a KYC verification, it should be anonymously operated since the casino knows your documents there could be a chance that you will get rub by them. My thought is --void them as much as you can a find another one, there are plenty of gambling poker casinos here that are completely anonymous which is you can choose.









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July 30, 2021, 10:17:36 PM
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Seriously, get used to this being forced almost everywhere you shop, and as an extension gamble. Governments are requiring more, and more in depth Know Your Customer (KYC) details than ever before, and its likely going to keep getting worse. I can understand it a little bit from some perspectives, but it is most definitely a breach of privacy in a lot of instances. The government wants it because they can likely detect fraud, and tax evasion more effectively, which you can't blame them for, and I can understand from that point of view. Unfortunately, its the people who abuse these services for the above mentioned crimes, that gets genuine customers to give up their privacy as a result.

All gambling websites are likely going to need KYC still almost every country in the next few years.

As i said many times before: AVOID CASINOS WHICH FORCE YOU TO KYC.
At least in crypto. With no exclusions, because this is principal moment: Cryptocurrency is grey technology, so you can be robbed with easy and you don't need to help potential criminals with any type of KYC
The thing is; this is going to get harder, and harder as time goes on. Its a law enforced by the government for the casinos to legally operate in much of the cases that its implemented, and as that law becomes more strict, and more countries adopt KYC the harder it'll be to actually avoid giving up your privacy.
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July 30, 2021, 10:18:14 PM
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Well, as long as we can avoid KYC --there was always a way to find a gambling site that does not have the required KYC.
I am before playing with Fair Poker and so far there are no KYC procedures at that time. But I don't know if that is reasonable to have a KYC verification, it should be anonymously operated since the casino knows your documents there could be a chance that you will get rub by them. My thought is --void them as much as you can a find another one, there are plenty of gambling poker casinos here that are completely anonymous which is you can choose.
There’s a lot of good gambling site that offer poker without even asking for your KYC, so why stress yourself following that requirements where you can easily avoid it. We all want to play anonymous, so if you’re into gambling site with KYC, that’s the risk you take and you should be aware of that.
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July 30, 2021, 10:46:12 PM
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It's not necessary, if you are not comfortable with their terms you can go elsewhere on poker sites that do not ask for KYC, and you should be careful on new poker sites that offer big bonuses I have the worse experience on this kind of new site, I register got my bonus and win but I need to deposit, I deposit only to find out that they will not allow me to withdraw my earnings when it is stipulated that they will let me withdraw my earnings coming from my bonus, so be careful on new site.
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July 30, 2021, 11:31:07 PM
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I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.
I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.
Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

For me it's too risky to use someone else's identity to do KYC verification. Moreover, the identity is used to play gambling and the owner of
the document does not know it. Will cause big problems later on, so it is not recommended to do that. After all, our goal in gambling is just
to get entertainment in our spare time, so there's no need to do anything risky. Since the beginning I have said there are still many gambling
sites that do not apply KYC, so we can play at these gambling sites.

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July 31, 2021, 01:34:24 AM
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I still do not want to do KYC, even if that is about $200 that I can withdrawable as you say because my identity will be more than $200 and even more. I still prefer to search for the other gambling site that does not need KYC to protect my identity. Maybe others are willing to receive that $200 or more because they really want to get a big bonus from the site but I still do not want to do that.

I only think about protecting my identity and I do not want to give it to a site that I do not use seriously.
I have the same thought as you, our personal data is far more important than the $200 bonus that a gambling site will give. But everyone's
financial needs are different, I wouldn't blame people who are willing to KYC procedures for $200. Maybe for some people $ 200 is very important
to be able to buy daily necessities, but I will not exchange my personal data for $200. Moreover, there are still many choices of gambling sites that
we can use without the need for KYC procedures, so for now I avoid gambling sites that apply KYC.
Maybe they can borrow the other people or their friends to verify themselves by sending their documents to that casino. I think that will be okay for them as the casino will not check the real identity of that person. But it will not recommend doing that as we do not know what will happen to the person who has that documents. We are playing gambling, so we only want to spend our free time, so we do not have to think too seriously, especially sending private documents to the casino.

For me it's too risky to use someone else's identity to do KYC verification. Moreover, the identity is used to play gambling and the owner of
the document does not know it. Will cause big problems later on, so it is not recommended to do that. After all, our goal in gambling is just
to get entertainment in our spare time, so there's no need to do anything risky. Since the beginning I have said there are still many gambling
sites that do not apply KYC, so we can play at these gambling sites.
If so, we do not have to do that instead, we search for the other gambling sites which do not require KYC. I am sure we can find it easily, especially since we have many recommended gambling websites that do not require KYC. I think the same as you as we only want to get entertainment from gambling, and we do not need to verify our account by sending any private document because that will not be necessary to do.



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July 31, 2021, 02:34:33 AM
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There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

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July 31, 2021, 06:50:57 AM
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The problem of kyc is that very few companies out there are able to show capacity to hold personal data securely and privately. And because this data is on high demand someone could go ashtray to sell it to third parties for other purposes.

Now do players need KYC, maybe yes and Know, if a player is well know and nothing fishy about the playing style fine but if there is so much inconsistencies in a players play store it's only right to perform it.

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July 31, 2021, 09:51:49 AM
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if the casino is really trusted and the bonus is pure it's part of a promotion, not a trick to freeze our assets, that's okay to do KYC. this personal opinion

I share your opinion it goes on individual preference I'm ok with KYC, there's really a gambling site that asks for KYC to make sure that you are clean and you are not using a VPN, if they do not allow it, I can only go for KYC if the gambling site has a good reputation to speak of, they should be honest and transparent on why they ask for KYC.

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July 31, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
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There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

If the casino is really trying to avoid spamming accounts for the referral system or rakeback, it can disable this option for accounts that have not passed the KYC. But I have not seen that somewhere it happened this way - it means that this is not the main reason for introducing the KYC.

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July 31, 2021, 04:32:30 PM
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As long as the site is trusted I think it's fine. In some activities, especially related to money, KYC activities are normal. Although I'm also aware some casinos don't ask for that. $200 is a lot, I don't save too much money on online gambling sites/casinos. The reason is to minimize the loss of my money.
Actually, from the start you have to choose a trusted site for your gambling activities. At least they are legal and recognized in a country. Because it can be one of the characteristics of an official casino site.
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July 31, 2021, 08:07:33 PM
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There are platforms today that requires having a KYC for their platform because they want to make sure that most of their users are authentic also to prevent having spam on an account if the platform has their own referral system, rakeback or any kind thing that can abuse their system. Having KYC is another set of security for their system to prevent attacks. Also if you don't want having a KYC options to play you can freely change the platform you are using its your rights if you want to protect your information.

If the casino is really trying to avoid spamming accounts for the referral system or rakeback, it can disable this option for accounts that have not passed the KYC. But I have not seen that somewhere it happened this way - it means that this is not the main reason for introducing the KYC.
Not a solid reason and you are right it isnt really just meant for that matter because when it comes to KYC integration then it is most likely or would rather be talking about government regulation
which these casinos need to comply.

Is there something that they can do? No. because if they are trying out not  to follow on whats been required then business would be closed and as a user of said platform then you would need to comply

but if you arent really that having some good impression with KYC then you could always have the choice on jumping to another one.

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July 31, 2021, 10:14:36 PM
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Obviously on one wants to do KYC.

But there are two main reasons why casinos would attempt to enforce it.

1. There is actual legislation that requires them to collect this info, in which case they have no choice but to collect it. Otherwise the government may crack down on their services.

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2. They are using KYC as an excuse to hold onto player funds, which is definitely the more commonplace practice imho. And the worst are the those who don't notify you of this beforehand.

Nothing the player can do about it, just avoid casinos with a reputation/track record of doing this.
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July 31, 2021, 10:22:17 PM
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Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right?



The majority of these poker casinos and gambling sites do not ask for KYC because they know that many gamblers do not want to go through a KYC, they only ask it if the player has an issue on his account and wants to verify, if you have a new pokers site and ask KYC right away, that is something to be concern about, they should ask only when there's an issue and it should not a policy.

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July 31, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
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Obviously on one wants to do KYC.

But there are two main reasons why casinos would attempt to enforce it.

1. There is actual legislation that requires them to collect this info, in which case they have no choice but to collect it. Otherwise the government may crack down on their services.

OR

2. They are using KYC as an excuse to hold onto player funds, which is definitely the more commonplace practice imho. And the worst are the those who don't notify you of this beforehand.

Nothing the player can do about it, just avoid casinos with a reputation/track record of doing this.

Much better for the player to abide the rules and regulations if they trusted the casino that they usually been playing.
Casinos with no such reputation, I think it might put our friends funds at risk of losing it so let's think about it for so many times.
Government will take hold on our private informations, that's why compliance is very important but struggling for all users.
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July 31, 2021, 11:59:54 PM
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What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.
i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.

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August 01, 2021, 02:32:21 AM
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Before I play in any online casino I always make sure I will not be asked for KYC or personal information. If I know that a casino will be asking me to undergo KYC verification I will reject it immediately. No online casino is so special to me that I will undergo KYC for its sake.

You should have also made sure that the app won't be requiring KYC from you before you registered and deposited your money. Now you don't have a choice if you want to withdraw your money.
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August 01, 2021, 07:01:59 AM
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What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform?
Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money?


I rather will look at another casino and not to go for KYC. Know your customer is not ideal for cryptocurrency that is suppose to be discreet in our transaction. A casino don't need kyc to function or for withdrawal, they can only restrict withdrawal, make a daily limit for it.
i know right ?! the idea of KYC on crypto casinos and also exchanges is messed up and kind of defeat the purpose of crypto, it was meant to be anonymous, a daily limit is a good option though, but making KYC a must is just stupid.
If the casino uses crypto, it is better not to force their members to do KYC because not all of them want to do that and even search for the other casino.
Playing gambling using crypto means we are free to use the coin and we do not have to reveal who we are as it means anonym for the gamblers.
The gamblers can select which casino does not require KYC and can play gambling in any casino they want.
But forcing the gambler to verify themselves to play gambling is not a good idea, although the casino can insist on doing that to their members.

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August 01, 2021, 07:18:23 AM
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The majority of these poker casinos and gambling sites do not ask for KYC because they know that many gamblers do not want to go through a KYC, they only ask it if the player has an issue on his account and wants to verify, if you have a new pokers site and ask KYC right away, that is something to be concern about, they should ask only when there's an issue and it should not a policy.

Unfortunately, the market share of online casinos where KYC is needed is consistently greater than the share of those casinos where it can be avoided, and it seems to me that it is gradually increasing. Unfortunately, there is more and more regulation in the crypto and this is reflected in the business that is associated with the crypto.

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