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August 09, 2021, 04:29:03 PM
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Vassilis, a dev who unexpectedly received 62B in 2018 said that he was in full control of private keys of address, which was his personal address for donations, other investors never had control on his address or on him
(unlike what some people were actively saying in Telegram during years).
He said that shortly after receiving coins in 2018 he reported unjust enrichment to Greek and European authorities.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236362.msg56686081#msg56686081
Vassilis always was saying that though coins were sent to his address for donations, he considered them as seized property not belonging to him, and only asked for legal documents to proceed. If he would consider these coins as personal funds, what would prevent him from selling at least part of them when the price was 50 times higher, in 2018?
He never touched even one coin.

However, POLITICALLY the truth is not wanted, politically it is more interesting to keep saying that Vassilis 'unethically acquired these coins and wants to own them at expense of community'.

You decide whether you like to be cheated and passively serve interests of people who care only about personal ambitions and never care about the truth or about the project, or you finally will start to defend your interests and your investments.

I also believe that the previous developer, Vassilis, was the victim of an attack aimed at discrediting the whole project and he found himself in the middle of a tornado.

I remember that at that time I became interested in the Mooncoin project and during the Christmas period there was the famous 62B transfer to our developer's personal account... coincidentally that move was the beginning of the decline of the Mooncoin project. So definitely a deliberate move with a clear intent.

But as you correctly pointed out, Vassilis has never moved a single coin and is awaiting an official ruling from a court of law. So I think that those who claim that Vassilis is a crook are exploiting the issue for their own ends.

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August 10, 2021, 09:35:00 AM
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I saw you are still connected to unnamed.exchange. really should seriously pay attention to all complaints against them. they are very businessless, they have damaged scammed many of their users by withholding their funds, without showing any concern for them. in the end, that exchange was not even registered as a company, it's all on one person's computer and you depend only on his goodwill to keep it on.

with them, you run the risk of being branded as a fraud and jeopardizing all previous work and effort.

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August 11, 2021, 08:57:13 AM
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We don't know what was the intention of someone who moved 62B in 2018 to Vassilis address. However, that person who did it - could just dump coins on exchanges for personal benefit, and the person prefered to move coins to a dev, which indicated lack of bad intentions. Unfortunately, still it caused damage.
But without any doubt, the damage would be limited if there were no politics and deliberate attacks. After all, coins were moved from one address to another address, from one not rightful owner to another not rightful owner. They were not sold and remain untouched, being seen as seized property. This status by itself locks them perfectly.
The point is that this situation was and is used POLITICALLY with the purpose to centralize Mooncoin in hands of several people and that really causes damage. Investors are interested in decentralized, Bitcoin like coin, not in a limited project where some people decide what to do with the project and even with funds of other people.
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August 11, 2021, 08:57:28 AM
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Yes, we all understand that coin burn, no matter, activated by miners or just by update, doesn't match idea of decentralization.
However, that can be done in 2 different ways:

1. Do it fast, with no noise in public, and after that continue with decentralized model, just to forget this move as nightmare. The issue is solved. It all takes only several days of work of one normal dev and support of community.

2. During years complain about 62B, create and maintain toxic spirit, accuse people, and create 'officially' such unethical nonsense as 'governance' in a decentralized project and shamelessly say in public that they will decide things (by this behaviour turning away potential investors and damaging the reputation of project in crypto world) - all that damage is covered by fair idea of coin burn, and people, of course, like coin burn, it is ideal politically to get support of people, they would vote for any 'governance', if it burns these coins. In fact it is not about coin burn, that all is for personal ambitions, for seizing control over decentralized project.
They would never burn 62B, it is more profitable politically to let this situation continue and maintain 'governance' under the flag of the idea of coin burn in 2022, in 2023, in 2025... how it happens now since 2018.
So, with this scenario, coins will be not burned, the market cap of project will decline because no one wants to buy centralized limited junk under someone's 'governance', however, certain people are happy because they are recognized as 'directors' of project and are able to decide what to do with it.

Which scenario would you prefer? What better fits interests of investors?
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August 18, 2021, 08:40:54 PM
Last edit: August 23, 2021, 06:16:44 PM by Abiky
 #25

DECLARATION
of Mooncoin Fellowship (Mooncoin Foundation),
brotherhood of Mooncoin investors



DECENTRALIZATION
1. Mooncoin is a decentralized coin, with its own blockchain.
By definition, *decentralized* means *with no center*, it is inappropriate if some people (no matter how you call them: 'group', 'team', 'board', 'devs') decide things and impose them to the decentralized project.
Self promoting, also positioning of someone as "official", any governance, burecraucy, limitations, attacks against the truth, rewriting Mooncoin history, attacks against historical resources are unacceptable.
That all is not only unethical, contradicts with the project nature, but also causes big damage to the project with its main value originated from no-center model (Mooncoin is decentralized crypto, with Bitcoin-like classic model).
Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value.
Mooncoin Fellowship aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin project and interests of Mooncoin investors.

HONESTY AND ETHICS
2. Decentralized crypto with preconfigured, set in stone rules doesn't depend on trust. However, it is necessary to have friendly and collaborative, non toxic, not low-minded spirit in the community. Honesty and ethics are very important, and not less important is understanding of what is ethical and what is not.
The past of project, its true history matter. Bright future of the project cannot be built upon fake info, incorrect understanding and wrong ideas.
It is unethical that people who call themselves "official", made a chain split in 2020 and then a 51÷ attack to make their 0.17 version the main one, and falsely accused others of chain split, also in 2021 request that investors must pay to them percent of total Mooncoin supply for any further progress. If some people call themselves "official" to try to receive unclaimed, not belonging to them coins from defuncted exchanges, it is also unethical and unacceptable.

TRUE PROGRESS
3. All teams and devs, including those one who call themselves "official" - who are not capable to keep Mooncoin in top 100 at Coinmarketcap, where Mooncoin was before those teams came, or at least let it stay in top 500, must stop causing damage and leave.
False promises, inadequate delays (year and more) in solving important issues and delays in fixing of urgent security flaws (how it happened in 2019-2020) are not tolerable any longer.
"The dog in the manger" model when some people cause stagnation, block and falsely discredit good initiatives of others at expense of entire project is inadequate model of development.

FREEDOM AND PRIVACY
4. Crypto world is for freedom. It defends privacy of people and of their funds. Attacks against privacy of Mooncoin investors and supporters are not acceptable.
Privacy guarantees real decentralization, no politics, no bosses, no arrogance, no company-like model, no personal career ambitions at expense of investors and future of project, and no imposed decisions, originated from non private CEO-like center, falsely recognized as "official" one. No one is "official" in a decentralized project, there is no center. People are free to join the project, to support it in accordance with its decentralized nature, without any "governance".
Mooncoin should never be transformed into Orwell's 1984 with a single source of "the truth", and not be transformed into Orwell's Animal Farm, where "some animals are more equal".

RESOURCES AND PARTICIPATION
5. Mooncoin.com website, launched by Mooncoin investors in 2015, is the primary website of Mooncoin Fellowship. Bitcointalk ANN thread is the primary forum.
It is recommended to verify all information which you receive from Telegram channels, there were numerous requests from people, telling that there was unconfirmed or fake info.
Mooncoin is decentralized and all normal resources, not violating ethics and principles of decentralization are welcome.
Any Mooncoin investor with any amount of coins can be part of Mooncoin Fellowship. To balance interests of investors and devs, devs cannot be part of the brotherhood of investors.

Agree. Decentralization is what makes crypto/Blockchain tech stronger. Take that away from it and you get nothing more than a corrupt system subject to manipulation, fraud, and corruption. Satoshi wanted people to have an "exit route" from the current monetary system empowered by central banks and governments worldwide. If Bitcoin weren't invented, we wouldn't be here in the first place. People seem to be missing what crypto is all about. It's not about making money, but rather taking away the power from banks by decentralizing the economy. There are many projects on the market that are all about hype, but only a few deliver real use cases to the world.

While Mooncoin is an old cryptocurrency, it's still alive and running thanks to the community supporting it every step of the way. It's not listed on big exchanges like Binance or Coinbase, but it does the job it was intended to do. The MOON blockchain still works well for day-to-day payments, so there's that. As long as Mooncoin is useful, nothing else matters.  Smiley


P.S. I am joining the Mooncoin Fellowship, brotherhood of investors. It's nice to be a part of an old project that still focuses on decentralization above all else.

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August 25, 2021, 07:39:41 AM
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The Group of 6 is for the revitalization of our currency, it must not be seen as a synonym for centralisation, I will make part of all the groups that want to create something good and I will do my part to ensure the decentralization of the project. I hope that all the various groups will work together with the harmony and determination to achieve our goals and therefore it is important that they cooperate in mutual respect.
I'd like to see extensive discussions about network security and additional protections to be adopted for the new client, about the list of exchanges to choose, about the governance model to be adopted, etc.
This is the most suitable place to discuss any topic without censorship.

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August 27, 2021, 09:25:25 PM
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I agree with all points on the list of statements, Mooncoin Fellowship, brotherhood of Mooncoin investors. Anyone who wants to meet me to talk about crypto, my CSGO nick is:Tokyoz1n. I met Mooncoin in 2018 through the projects that Heitor did, I remember that there were good prospects for Mooncoin, but Mooncoin did not prosper as the community wanted, now I see a new chance for organic growth for Mooncoin, the future has arrived and the cryptocurrencies are shaking up all global markets.
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August 27, 2021, 09:35:27 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2021, 01:16:06 PM by ShooterHunterBR
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DECLARATION
of Mooncoin Fellowship (Mooncoin Foundation),
brotherhood of Mooncoin investors



DECENTRALIZATION
1. Mooncoin is a decentralized coin, with its own blockchain.
By definition, *decentralized* means *with no center*, it is inappropriate if some people (no matter how you call them: 'group', 'team', 'board', 'devs') decide things and impose them to the decentralized project.
Self promoting, also positioning of someone as "official", any governance, burecraucy, limitations, attacks against the truth, rewriting Mooncoin history, attacks against historical resources are unacceptable.
That all is not only unethical, contradicts with the project nature, but also causes big damage to the project with its main value originated from no-center model (Mooncoin is decentralized crypto, with Bitcoin-like classic model).
Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value.
Mooncoin Fellowship aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin project and interests of Mooncoin investors.

HONESTY AND ETHICS
2. Decentralized crypto with preconfigured, set in stone rules doesn't depend on trust. However, it is necessary to have friendly and collaborative, non toxic, not low-minded spirit in the community. Honesty and ethics are very important, and not less important is understanding of what is ethical and what is not.
The past of project, its true history matter. Bright future of the project cannot be built upon fake info, incorrect understanding and wrong ideas.
It is unethical that people who call themselves "official", made a chain split in 2020 and then a 51÷ attack to make their 0.17 version the main one, and falsely accused others of chain split, also in 2021 request that investors must pay to them percent of total Mooncoin supply for any further progress. If some people call themselves "official" to try to receive unclaimed, not belonging to them coins from defuncted exchanges, it is also unethical and unacceptable.

TRUE PROGRESS
3. All teams and devs, including those one who call themselves "official" - who are not capable to keep Mooncoin in top 100 at Coinmarketcap, where Mooncoin was before those teams came, or at least let it stay in top 500, must stop causing damage and leave.
False promises, inadequate delays (year and more) in solving important issues and delays in fixing of urgent security flaws (how it happened in 2019-2020) are not tolerable any longer.
"The dog in the manger" model when some people cause stagnation, block and falsely discredit good initiatives of others at expense of entire project is inadequate model of development.

FREEDOM AND PRIVACY
4. Crypto world is for freedom. It defends privacy of people and of their funds. Attacks against privacy of Mooncoin investors and supporters are not acceptable.
Privacy guarantees real decentralization, no politics, no bosses, no arrogance, no company-like model, no personal career ambitions at expense of investors and future of project, and no imposed decisions, originated from non private CEO-like center, falsely recognized as "official" one. No one is "official" in a decentralized project, there is no center. People are free to join the project, to support it in accordance with its decentralized nature, without any "governance".
Mooncoin should never be transformed into Orwell's 1984 with a single source of "the truth", and not be transformed into Orwell's Animal Farm, where "some animals are more equal".

RESOURCES AND PARTICIPATION
5. Mooncoin.com website, launched by Mooncoin investors in 2015, is the primary website of Mooncoin Fellowship. Bitcointalk ANN thread is the primary forum.
It is recommended to verify all information which you receive from Telegram channels, there were numerous requests from people, telling that there was unconfirmed or fake info.
Mooncoin is decentralized and all normal resources, not violating ethics and principles of decentralization are welcome.
Any Mooncoin investor with any amount of coins can part of Mooncoin Fellowship. To balance interests of investors and devs, devs cannot be part of the brotherhood of investors.

>I am together Mooncoin fellowship and accept the declaration<
It is very easy to create rules saying who is the owner of the truth, but it is difficult to create rules to protect and value decentralization, it is impossible for an honest person not to agree with the Mooncoin Fellowship guidelines . Guys, please see that I have a youtube channel, soon I intend to make an ideo talking about Mooncoin through the optics of an 18 year old who is having his first contacts with crypto this year. Anyone who wants to subscribe already helps a lot, my channel link is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMuqItCgIXgtMoNN4g6sZpQ (ShooterHunterBR) , I will communicate in this topic when my video about Mooncoin is already online, I intend to do this soon, and I also intend to make shorter videos talking about the news that are appearing in the community, I wish all Mooncoin supporters a good Saturday.
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August 27, 2021, 09:54:09 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2021, 01:38:11 PM by Porcarosa
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DECLARATION
of Mooncoin Fellowship (Mooncoin Foundation),
brotherhood of Mooncoin investors



DECENTRALIZATION
1. Mooncoin is a decentralized coin, with its own blockchain.
By definition, *decentralized* means *with no center*, it is inappropriate if some people (no matter how you call them: 'group', 'team', 'board', 'devs') decide things and impose them to the decentralized project.
Self promoting, also positioning of someone as "official", any governance, burecraucy, limitations, attacks against the truth, rewriting Mooncoin history, attacks against historical resources are unacceptable.
That all is not only unethical, contradicts with the project nature, but also causes big damage to the project with its main value originated from no-center model (Mooncoin is decentralized crypto, with Bitcoin-like classic model).
Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value.
Mooncoin Fellowship aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin project and interests of Mooncoin investors.

HONESTY AND ETHICS
2. Decentralized crypto with preconfigured, set in stone rules doesn't depend on trust. However, it is necessary to have friendly and collaborative, non toxic, not low-minded spirit in the community. Honesty and ethics are very important, and not less important is understanding of what is ethical and what is not.
The past of project, its true history matter. Bright future of the project cannot be built upon fake info, incorrect understanding and wrong ideas.
It is unethical that people who call themselves "official", made a chain split in 2020 and then a 51÷ attack to make their 0.17 version the main one, and falsely accused others of chain split, also in 2021 request that investors must pay to them percent of total Mooncoin supply for any further progress. If some people call themselves "official" to try to receive unclaimed, not belonging to them coins from defuncted exchanges, it is also unethical and unacceptable.

TRUE PROGRESS
3. All teams and devs, including those one who call themselves "official" - who are not capable to keep Mooncoin in top 100 at Coinmarketcap, where Mooncoin was before those teams came, or at least let it stay in top 500, must stop causing damage and leave.
False promises, inadequate delays (year and more) in solving important issues and delays in fixing of urgent security flaws (how it happened in 2019-2020) are not tolerable any longer.
"The dog in the manger" model when some people cause stagnation, block and falsely discredit good initiatives of others at expense of entire project is inadequate model of development.

FREEDOM AND PRIVACY
4. Crypto world is for freedom. It defends privacy of people and of their funds. Attacks against privacy of Mooncoin investors and supporters are not acceptable.
Privacy guarantees real decentralization, no politics, no bosses, no arrogance, no company-like model, no personal career ambitions at expense of investors and future of project, and no imposed decisions, originated from non private CEO-like center, falsely recognized as "official" one. No one is "official" in a decentralized project, there is no center. People are free to join the project, to support it in accordance with its decentralized nature, without any "governance".
Mooncoin should never be transformed into Orwell's 1984 with a single source of "the truth", and not be transformed into Orwell's Animal Farm, where "some animals are more equal".

RESOURCES AND PARTICIPATION
5. Mooncoin.com website, launched by Mooncoin investors in 2015, is the primary website of Mooncoin Fellowship. Bitcointalk ANN thread is the primary forum.
It is recommended to verify all information which you receive from Telegram channels, there were numerous requests from people, telling that there was unconfirmed or fake info.
Mooncoin is decentralized and all normal resources, not violating ethics and principles of decentralization are welcome.
Any Mooncoin investor with any amount of coins can be part of Mooncoin Fellowship. To balance interests of investors and devs, devs cannot be part of the brotherhood of investors.
Good night everyone, my food business is starting now and is about to complete 1 month. I intend to accept payments in crypto (BTC, LTC, DOGE and MOON)

I agree join Mooncoin Fellowship, the true brotherhood of Mooncoin investors, and consent with all declaration point, today decentralization is most important concept.

I wouldn't like to talk about it here, but this is a place for debate. I have 0% confidence in James project, the rules he built for community union only favor currency centralization.

I intend to open my business to the public soon, now I only do deliveries. When it starts to receive the public, I will allude to Mooncoin in the reception environment to help promote Mooncoin.

My Instagram: https://instagram.com/joaopedroruas?utm_medium=copy_link
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August 28, 2021, 11:39:33 PM
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Hi Mooncoin people, You guys with a lot of time in the community will remember me, I'm Duílo from Mooncoin Brazil team 2018. I'm here to show all my support for Mooncoin Fellowship. Everyone here should be aware that Mooncoin remains centralized, well-known actors are trying to dominate the currency, it's the same people who never recognized the great feats of Mooncoin Brazil team that there were 4 or 5 websites related to Mooncoin, never recognized the great campaign of marketing that spread the currency to an entire city...
An important point that will contribute a lot is the fact that Mooncoin Fellowship accepts everyone, the person can have 1B or 1 Mooncoin unit, so everyone has the opportunity to have their voice heard. I am very confident about the future of Mooncoin in the years to come, if Mooncoin remains decentralized as it always has been, it is only a matter of time before we manage to prosper as a larger and more respected community in the world of crypto. This is all up to us, the true Mooncoin enthusiasts.
I've been a musician for decades and I'm thinking of recording a song about Mooncoin soon, as soon as it's available I'll post it here in the thread.
Sorry for any writing errors, I use a translator as I have limited knowledge in English.
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Last edit: August 31, 2021, 07:45:37 AM by nacamarini
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DECLARATION
of Mooncoin Fellowship (Mooncoin Foundation),
brotherhood of Mooncoin investors



DECENTRALIZATION
1. Mooncoin is a decentralized coin, with its own blockchain.
By definition, *decentralized* means *with no center*, it is inappropriate if some people (no matter how you call them: 'group', 'team', 'board', 'devs') decide things and impose them to the decentralized project.
Self promoting, also positioning of someone as "official", any governance, burecraucy, limitations, attacks against the truth, rewriting Mooncoin history, attacks against historical resources are unacceptable.
That all is not only unethical, contradicts with the project nature, but also causes big damage to the project with its main value originated from no-center model (Mooncoin is decentralized crypto, with Bitcoin-like classic model).
Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value.
Mooncoin Fellowship aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin project and interests of Mooncoin investors.

HONESTY AND ETHICS
2. Decentralized crypto with preconfigured, set in stone rules doesn't depend on trust. However, it is necessary to have friendly and collaborative, non toxic, not low-minded spirit in the community. Honesty and ethics are very important, and not less important is understanding of what is ethical and what is not.
The past of project, its true history matter. Bright future of the project cannot be built upon fake info, incorrect understanding and wrong ideas.
It is unethical that people who call themselves "official", made a chain split in 2020 and then a 51÷ attack to make their 0.17 version the main one, and falsely accused others of chain split, also in 2021 request that investors must pay to them percent of total Mooncoin supply for any further progress. If some people call themselves "official" to try to receive unclaimed, not belonging to them coins from defuncted exchanges, it is also unethical and unacceptable.

TRUE PROGRESS
3. All teams and devs, including those one who call themselves "official" - who are not capable to keep Mooncoin in top 100 at Coinmarketcap, where Mooncoin was before those teams came, or at least let it stay in top 500, must stop causing damage and leave.
False promises, inadequate delays (year and more) in solving important issues and delays in fixing of urgent security flaws (how it happened in 2019-2020) are not tolerable any longer.
"The dog in the manger" model when some people cause stagnation, block and falsely discredit good initiatives of others at expense of entire project is inadequate model of development.

FREEDOM AND PRIVACY
4. Crypto world is for freedom. It defends privacy of people and of their funds. Attacks against privacy of Mooncoin investors and supporters are not acceptable.
Privacy guarantees real decentralization, no politics, no bosses, no arrogance, no company-like model, no personal career ambitions at expense of investors and future of project, and no imposed decisions, originated from non private CEO-like center, falsely recognized as "official" one. No one is "official" in a decentralized project, there is no center. People are free to join the project, to support it in accordance with its decentralized nature, without any "governance".
Mooncoin should never be transformed into Orwell's 1984 with a single source of "the truth", and not be transformed into Orwell's Animal Farm, where "some animals are more equal".

RESOURCES AND PARTICIPATION
5. Mooncoin.com website, launched by Mooncoin investors in 2015, is the primary website of Mooncoin Fellowship. Bitcointalk ANN thread is the primary forum.
It is recommended to verify all information which you receive from Telegram channels, there were numerous requests from people, telling that there was unconfirmed or fake info.
Mooncoin is decentralized and all normal resources, not violating ethics and principles of decentralization are welcome.
Any Mooncoin investor with any amount of coins can be part of Mooncoin Fellowship. To balance interests of investors and devs, devs cannot be part of the brotherhood of investors.
Hi Mooncoin people, You guys with a lot of time in the community will remember me, I'm Duílo from Mooncoin Brazil team 2018. I'm here to show all my support for Mooncoin Fellowship. Everyone here should be aware that Mooncoin remains centralized, well-known actors are trying to dominate the currency, it's the same people who never recognized the great feats of Mooncoin Brazil team that there were 4 or 5 websites related to Mooncoin, never recognized the great campaign of marketing that spread the currency to an entire city...
An important point that will contribute a lot is the fact that Mooncoin Fellowship accepts everyone, the person can have 1B or 1 Mooncoin unit, so everyone has the opportunity to have their voice heard. I am very confident about the future of Mooncoin in the years to come, if Mooncoin remains decentralized as it always has been, it is only a matter of time before we manage to prosper as a larger and more respected community in the world of crypto. This is all up to us, the true Mooncoin enthusiasts.
I've been a musician for decades and I'm thinking of recording a song about Mooncoin soon, as soon as it's available I'll post it here in the thread.
Sorry for any writing errors, I use a translator as I have limited knowledge in English.

It would be amazing see mooncoin again in the top 100 coinmarketcap, i met mooncoin in 2018 because my husband {Duílio} participated in the mooncoin brazil team, for lasts years mooncoin was dead, but today i see a nice progress with a creation of this comunnity holder group, after the big growth of DOGE, it is inevitable that mooncoin has a big growth too, i am accede mooncoin fellowship and subscribe the declaration...

the music that duílo is making for mooncoin is getting good, we are a good musical talent, please lets help this old channel to grow for new videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC06Lyik0Wzc65I8IA05MHTw/featured



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August 29, 2021, 01:44:41 AM
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I am here to affirm my support for Mooncoin Fellowship, I have no doubts about the honesty and credibility of those involved, without offending anyone, but I see that the principles proposed by the telegram group .eco are extremely questionable, and dangerous for the decentralization of Mooncoin.
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August 29, 2021, 06:13:13 PM
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The group of 6 is not a synonym for centralization, it is pure centralization itself.
Why any exception from principles of decentralization should be made for this group?
You don't need to form groups, make politics, create governance in order to support Mooncoin project. That looks terrible for crypto community and turns away potential investors who buy decenralization.

Please stop causing damage and let Mooncoin be governed like Bitcoin - by set of its blockchain rules. Really no personal ambitions, no self promoting are worth this shame, when the great classic crypto project is being barbarously damaged.
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August 29, 2021, 06:15:17 PM
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In 2018 when Mooncoin market capitalization was around $100-200 million, we already saw the same: Mooncoin Reborn team came 'to revitalize' Mooncoin with the same agenda, 62B burn, centralizing, 'official' directors.
Now when the market cap is around only 5 million - after activities of this group, almost the same people formed the group of 6 to 'revitalize' Mooncoin again.

Everyone is welcome to support the project, there are no bosses and no one can fire anyone, it is just not ethically correct for these people to continue after all this damage was made, after all these years of stagnation due to wrong ideas and actions. And now we see nothing, but the same ideas and activities from these people and a new invited dev, James, who decided to join these people and do everything they tell him, instead of defending the project and making real progress.
If you do the same, you will have the same results, it is necessary to learn from the past not to repeat mistakes.
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August 29, 2021, 09:09:09 PM
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I am very glad to be able to have my voice heard right here, possessing only a few thousands units of Mooncoin, i am joining Mooncoin Fellowship and agree with declaration  Grin
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DECLARATION
of Mooncoin Fellowship (Mooncoin Foundation),
brotherhood of Mooncoin investors



DECENTRALIZATION
1. Mooncoin is a decentralized coin, with its own blockchain.
By definition, *decentralized* means *with no center*, it is inappropriate if some people (no matter how you call them: 'group', 'team', 'board', 'devs') decide things and impose them to the decentralized project.
Self promoting, also positioning of someone as "official", any governance, burecraucy, limitations, attacks against the truth, rewriting Mooncoin history, attacks against historical resources are unacceptable.
That all is not only unethical, contradicts with the project nature, but also causes big damage to the project with its main value originated from no-center model (Mooncoin is decentralized crypto, with Bitcoin-like classic model).
Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value.
Mooncoin Fellowship aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin project and interests of Mooncoin investors.

HONESTY AND ETHICS
2. Decentralized crypto with preconfigured, set in stone rules doesn't depend on trust. However, it is necessary to have friendly and collaborative, non toxic, not low-minded spirit in the community. Honesty and ethics are very important, and not less important is understanding of what is ethical and what is not.
The past of project, its true history matter. Bright future of the project cannot be built upon fake info, incorrect understanding and wrong ideas.
It is unethical that people who call themselves "official", made a chain split in 2020 and then a 51÷ attack to make their 0.17 version the main one, and falsely accused others of chain split, also in 2021 request that investors must pay to them percent of total Mooncoin supply for any further progress. If some people call themselves "official" to try to receive unclaimed, not belonging to them coins from defuncted exchanges, it is also unethical and unacceptable.

TRUE PROGRESS
3. All teams and devs, including those one who call themselves "official" - who are not capable to keep Mooncoin in top 100 at Coinmarketcap, where Mooncoin was before those teams came, or at least let it stay in top 500, must stop causing damage and leave.
False promises, inadequate delays (year and more) in solving important issues and delays in fixing of urgent security flaws (how it happened in 2019-2020) are not tolerable any longer.
"The dog in the manger" model when some people cause stagnation, block and falsely discredit good initiatives of others at expense of entire project is inadequate model of development.

FREEDOM AND PRIVACY
4. Crypto world is for freedom. It defends privacy of people and of their funds. Attacks against privacy of Mooncoin investors and supporters are not acceptable.
Privacy guarantees real decentralization, no politics, no bosses, no arrogance, no company-like model, no personal career ambitions at expense of investors and future of project, and no imposed decisions, originated from non private CEO-like center, falsely recognized as "official" one. No one is "official" in a decentralized project, there is no center. People are free to join the project, to support it in accordance with its decentralized nature, without any "governance".
Mooncoin should never be transformed into Orwell's 1984 with a single source of "the truth", and not be transformed into Orwell's Animal Farm, where "some animals are more equal".

RESOURCES AND PARTICIPATION
5. Mooncoin.com website, launched by Mooncoin investors in 2015, is the primary website of Mooncoin Fellowship. Bitcointalk ANN thread is the primary forum.
It is recommended to verify all information which you receive from Telegram channels, there were numerous requests from people, telling that there was unconfirmed or fake info.
Mooncoin is decentralized and all normal resources, not violating ethics and principles of decentralization are welcome.
Any Mooncoin investor with any amount of coins can be part of Mooncoin Fellowship. To balance interests of investors and devs, devs cannot be part of the brotherhood of investors.


The best way to talk about a decentralized project in the cryptocurrency business is on the forum created by the great Satoshi Nakamoto
Does anyone else have any doubts that we are living 1984 from Orwell? All centralized platforms have great censorship and state control today, decentralization is freedom
These Mooncoin Feloowship guidelines are more than acceptable, they are completely necessary. I join Mooncoin Fellowship & join the declaration
Its a chance for all Mooncoincers participate in the future of Mooncoin, decentralization and simple use is our great differential

greetings to all SPFC fans
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August 30, 2021, 02:21:54 AM
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The group of 6 is not a synonym for centralization, it is pure centralization itself.
Why any exception from principles of decentralization should be made for this group?
You don't need to form groups, make politics, create governance in order to support Mooncoin project. That looks terrible for crypto community and turns away potential investors who buy decenralization.

Please stop causing damage and let Mooncoin be governed like Bitcoin - by set of its blockchain rules. Really no personal ambitions, no self promoting are worth this shame, when the great classic crypto project is being barbarously damaged.
 

Good night everyone here, from Brazil, after a night of work I want to affirm my position, I am joining Mooncoin Fellowship and agree 100% with declaration. have a good night Moto Bro
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Every new exchange is a positive news.  Cool

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After the issue with Satodax, I think that we need to discuss  the case of potential hybrid algorithm (Scrypt + POS).

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