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August 11, 2021, 10:13:01 PM
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Today seeing the results of the Sportsbet.io ⚽ Brazil v Spain prediction game:



I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

What are your thoughts on this, guys?
I think the answer is yes, maybe there is not a direct correlation as we must admit that the games are very different, however both games have to do with the prediction of outcomes, for example in poker you cannot just worry about what's in your hand, you need to worry about what is on the hand of your opponent and you need to figure out if what they have is better or worse than what you have, which is a similar process to what happens with sports bets, in which you need to figure out if the odds that you are given are actually fair and try to figure out if you can take advantage of them or not.
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August 11, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
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Today seeing the results of the Sportsbet.io ⚽ Brazil v Spain prediction game:



I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

What are your thoughts on this, guys?
Are you a gambler that only knows one game? I believe those are the real gamblers who plays a lot and places their bet on their favorite sports or team as well, but I don’t think skills correlate with each other because there’s no need for skills on sports betting, you just have to do your research and pray for your luck. We can gamble on any where as long as its legal, some are playing too many games and they loved it but I doubt that a gambler will only play one game for the rest of their gambling journey.
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August 11, 2021, 10:32:08 PM
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I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

What are your thoughts on this, guys?

Someone who has often been in gambling may learn and understand other games as well. Poker is more of a mental game and reading card possibilities. the sportsbook also reads the possible performance of the selected team. maybe their ability to analyze the posibilty of a match in a game is really that good.
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August 11, 2021, 10:39:01 PM
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Today seeing the results of the Sportsbet.io ⚽ Brazil v Spain prediction game:
I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

What are your thoughts on this, guys?
I dont know if this one is serious.. Dont you consider that each person could play multiple game or knowledgeable on wide variety of games and wont really be just sticking out on a single?
Dont know on what you are trying to prove or show off here.You do presume that those person are just the same? Even myself could consider that both knowledgeable with Poker and sports  betting
and it just turns out that those people mentioned or on common top rankings are having the same interest, just like that.

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August 11, 2021, 11:19:19 PM
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Just take it as a pinch of salt.

There are users who have an idea of how to play in different game types. You also have that skills, OP. If those users can do Poker and Sports betting, you can also do both at the same time but on other game types. For me, I can also do both Sports betting and Poker but it's just that, I'm more comfortable betting in Sports betting.

To end my statement, there's no correlation between Poker and sports betting. The same skills were just applied.
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August 12, 2021, 04:30:32 AM
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I believe that all the types of gambling require a particular skill set and pattern. In the case of poker, winning is more dependent on the individual playing the poker game unlike in sports betting where the individual placing the bet has to first analyse the performance and former statistics of the teams to know which will perform enough for him to place a bet on, that is winning is very dependent on team he is placing his bet.

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August 12, 2021, 04:51:50 AM
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I don't think so there's any correlation between the two, we have different biases and skillset regarding gambling it depends on where you will focus with. There are people who really love having analysis, statistics, and team biases regarding with the sports game and some of them really love to have risk because it sports anything can happen with poker it's all about the chances or the data and statistics what is the probabilities of the upcoming year and hold by the others. Sometimes getting active in gambling make your brain activity active in different situations more critical thinking works.

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August 12, 2021, 05:51:57 AM
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I don't see any relationship between these two gambling usually requires experience. It is very difficult to win if you do not have enough skills about the game the secret truth of the players is that each formulated winning bid will be just like the exact strategies and measures that only help significantly reduce the risk and increase the chances of winning. A thorough knowledge of the rules of the game understand the differences and the subtleties it makes it easy to play poker by collecting and analyzing accurate information related to a specific sporting event.
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August 12, 2021, 07:47:33 AM
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When luck is on their side then they are going to win most of their bets no matter how good their betting skills is, but there is no correlation with poker and sport betting since both are completely different genres need different level of playing skills.

I'm familiar with this guys as OP mention above, They are active here on gambling section competition and giveaway. They pretty good on analysis it helps them to have an advantage for winning besides luck. Luck is just a chances and we can't measure the success rate by that alone but with good analysis, You can increase your chance to predict the right score.

There's some relation to poker and sports betting, they both requires to analyse each player to determine the weak spot of each other. Maybe the user above knows perfectly how both teams performance when they face each that's why they can easily predict the outcome.
I agree that both games requires deep analyzing skills but its rare to see someone become master of both games because either they will choose one and wants to be a master at it, so these are just coincidence in my opinion because they got luck on their side so they able to win even the giveaways and other contents which chooses the random players.
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August 12, 2021, 08:39:42 AM
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I agree that both games requires deep analyzing skills but its rare to see someone become master of both games because either they will choose one and wants to be a master at it, so these are just coincidence in my opinion because they got luck on their side so they able to win even the giveaways and other contents which chooses the random players.
I'd say that Sports require more analytical skills while Poker requires a spontaneous decision-making kind of thing. Sports give you that time frame of before tournaments to study the players and their opponents, deriving a possible result from whatever data you have (past matches, training, current state, etc), while poker has that short time frame that needs you to decide on what to do after getting your cards and looking at the table. Luck is certainly a factor, but they'd have to be pretty skilled in analyzing stuff even with all that luck.

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August 12, 2021, 08:53:58 AM
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Today seeing the results of the Sportsbet.io ⚽ Brazil v Spain prediction game:

I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

What are your thoughts on this, guys?

From my point of view, not really. Both types work with probabilities, of course. But there are still factors in poker as in betting that you can not influence. In my opinion, their success is due to rationality and money or balance management. These are essential in both poker and betting. If these are applied consistently, then you can be very successful in both. Nevertheless, this alone is not enough, but you must also have background knowledge of sports betting or mental stability in poker to have constant success.
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August 12, 2021, 09:02:07 AM
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I agree that both games requires deep analyzing skills but its rare to see someone become master of both games because either they will choose one and wants to be a master at it, so these are just coincidence in my opinion because they got luck on their side so they able to win even the giveaways and other contents which chooses the random players.
The luck factor accompanies their victory because every analysis will not have precise accuracy and even the analysis does not work well according to predictions, bets are very tied to luck such as guessing soccer bets with a strong club choice but not always winning from every match.

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August 12, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
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I don't see any relationship between these two gambling usually requires experience. It is very difficult to win if you do not have enough skills about the game the secret truth of the players is that each formulated winning bid will be just like the exact strategies and measures that only help significantly reduce the risk and increase the chances of winning. A thorough knowledge of the rules of the game understand the differences and the subtleties it makes it easy to play poker by collecting and analyzing accurate information related to a specific sporting event.
The relation between these poker and sports betting is used to analyze to play but the analysis will be different between poker and sports betting. The more players can master the skills, the more chances for that player to win, but do not forget that luck still has its part to help us win. If that player knows how to make strategy in a poker card game and sports betting, we are sure he will win. But there is an option that he has skills in poker but not in sports betting.

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August 12, 2021, 01:03:15 PM
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There is more math when playing poker. Sports betting is more random if you can count cards. If you cannot count cards or have a good idea of the odds of a card showing up next then I would say it is just as random as sports. I have been gambling for a long time but statistics has never helped me with sports betting as there is a lot of long involved on the day. Poker is more predictable but I am not good enough at that to count cards and predict it. There is no relation to sports betting and poker except that the person likes to gamble Cheesy

Poker, NL Hold'em in particular, is my favorite game, so I would be happy to agree with you, but I don't think people who love sports betting can easily accept this notion. And I wouldn't argue with them, tbh. I do sports betting myself, and I know that no way it is random, and what is more random among the two is a big question, imo. Both require some kind of skills, that's for sure.

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August 12, 2021, 03:19:54 PM
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The luck factor accompanies their victory because every analysis will not have precise accuracy and even the analysis does not work well according to predictions, bets are very tied to luck such as guessing soccer bets with a strong club choice but not always winning from every match.

It's obvious that there's luck in there, on which gambling does luck doesn't play a factor?

But in sports betting or poker, luck is maybe a factor but for that luck to come, we need a good analysis on that. There is no accurate analysis but at least we have a basis on what are we betting on and not just doing some random or following certain picks.

In the case of those users in the topic, they know poker and sports betting and that's the reason why they are able to win in some competitions.

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August 12, 2021, 03:35:18 PM
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I agree that both games requires deep analyzing skills but its rare to see someone become master of both games because either they will choose one and wants to be a master at it, so these are just coincidence in my opinion because they got luck on their side so they able to win even the giveaways and other contents which chooses the random players.
I'd say that Sports require more analytical skills while Poker requires a spontaneous decision-making kind of thing. Sports give you that time frame of before tournaments to study the players and their opponents, deriving a possible result from whatever data you have (past matches, training, current state, etc), while poker has that short time frame that needs you to decide on what to do after getting your cards and looking at the table. Luck is certainly a factor, but they'd have to be pretty skilled in analyzing stuff even with all that luck.

Good point, mental skills and handling pressures are more present inside poker, while in sports betting there is a good deal of information that you can collect before you decide and pick the game that you'll going to bet.

Is more on balancing your decision in order to strengthen your position each deal that you call when playing poker. And besides, there' no bluff within sports betting you can't take that call and gamble your fate. It's all about analysing the teams or players that you'll put your trust in believing that edge is on them.

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August 12, 2021, 04:20:22 PM
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My opinion on it is just luck. When the same person or account can win in two different tournaments about poker and sports, of course they have the skills to play both. But still, in my view for example there was me for two different tournaments and winning them, I still think it was luck. Since it's very possible that I'll only get it once and not be able to repeat it again and again from time to time, unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

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August 12, 2021, 04:45:26 PM
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unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

There are no steady wins in games and both poker and sports are games except for the ways they are played. Skill might be considered in sports but winnings are not always guaranteed especially two equal teams playing but poker is gambling and gambling is based on luck. So I agree to luck for  gambling and skill for sports.
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My opinion on it is just luck. When the same person or account can win in two different tournaments about poker and sports, of course they have the skills to play both. But still, in my view for example there was me for two different tournaments and winning them, I still think it was luck. Since it's very possible that I'll only get it once and not be able to repeat it again and again from time to time, unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

That's where skill gets a bit of luck in this regard, as those who possess it can simultaneously play in several betting options. Poker and sports betting is not an easy gamble, apart from relying on luck, skill will also be very important, so you can give ideas and not guess scores randomly.

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August 12, 2021, 06:41:38 PM
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My opinion on it is just luck. When the same person or account can win in two different tournaments about poker and sports, of course they have the skills to play both. But still, in my view for example there was me for two different tournaments and winning them, I still think it was luck. Since it's very possible that I'll only get it once and not be able to repeat it again and again from time to time, unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

That's where skill gets a bit of luck in this regard, as those who possess it can simultaneously play in several betting options. Poker and sports betting is not an easy gamble, apart from relying on luck, skill will also be very important, so you can give ideas and not guess scores randomly.
For playing out multiple games then this would really be just talking about capability of a certain gambler and i dont know on why OP got surprised that he had seen those same people
who do join up on sports betting and same goes on Poker  which he doesnt realize that we do all have multiple knowledge in terms of games that we do know and not just focusing
on a single one and when it comes to correlation then its just understandable that games basically doesnt have any connection at all.

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