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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood. So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.
So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?
There are a lot of pros for gambling venues that gives them a reasons to open their venues in poor parts. One is, as you already mentioned, the cheap rent and low payed employees, this saves some good money for them, nothing hugely significant but... After all, it's business aim to maximize profits. Then, it's also pretty common that poor people gamble the most and the higest revenue for casinos are poor people because these people find it hard to earn a lot of money and/or find normal job and then they test their fortune in gambling. The casino where I was working was full of poor people, i.e. full of those who were putting all of their hopes in last bets.
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The cheaper rents is a likely reason for them to setup there knowing it's one way to reduce the risk for their business. The poor are surely being targeted here as most of them will be looking for other ways to make money and eventually some of them would become regulars. On top of this I feel like wealthier people would gamble less overall as they can afford and choose different kinds of entertainment. Here in my place the gambling situation is somewhat the same as there's a lot of lottery shops open nearby.
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August 23, 2021, 10:47:30 PM |
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The cheaper rents is a likely reason for them to setup there knowing it's one way to reduce the risk for their business. The poor are surely being targeted here as most of them will be looking for other ways to make money and eventually some of them would become regulars. On top of this I feel like wealthier people would gamble less overall as they can afford and choose different kinds of entertainment.
or else, wealthy neighbourhoods don't want much noise around their area. usually, they prefer quiet community. because if there are casinos around their area, definitely, it will be a busy place, restaurants or hotels or other commercial establishments. but with relatively poor community, they like the hustle and bustle as they are looking for ways on how to earn money. with more establishments, it means, jobs for them. so maybe, aside from the cheaper rent, this type of community is more welcoming in this kind of business because of the benefits they can get.
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This is something that left me with a lot of questions because I've always thought that the rich are the ones who spend the most money on gambling and consequently it makes more sense that casinos are located in the rich zones even in order to bring more security and comfort to the rich. In my country, for example, the casinos are located in the rich district and the rich are the biggest regulars in physical casinos in my country. what is happening in the uk may be an exception, does anyone have stats from the USA for example to know if they have the same scenario with the uk? I see in movies and series that in las vegas there in the US and where there are many casinos, I don't know if that's true, but I think that in the US gambling should are located in the rich neighborhoods or am I making a mistake?
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood. So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-reportI doubt the casinos are targeting the poor only. That would be a such a bad business model, don't you think? Or are you trying to say that they are trying to take advantage of those desperate people trying their luck to get rich? Would make sense but I doubt that is still going to work for the casino in the long run. Like you said, highly likely because of low cost of rent and cheap labor is the key reason why they are located over there.
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I know only little about UK, but my common sense says they (gambling venues) aren't specifically targeting the poor. Yes, it can be related to more expensive rent, and overall cost, or the acceptance of local community since the rich want privacy, comfort, safety, which can be disrupted by gambling operation especially if it's a residential area. I think in rich business areas, there should be present gambling venues.
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Another reason apart from the economic cost and employment opportunities, may be because of accessibility and convenience. Gambling venues are located in places where the vast majority of persons both the poor and the rich that still gamble offline will have no problems visiting. A rich person can easily access the gambling venues in these poor locations (so far they are safe) and still place his bet of they are the type that like gambling, but the reverse is the case for the poor who will not want to go so far or go into a rich location to gamble.
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Reading the article, it's already mentioned the probable one of the reasons why it turned out that gambling venues are mostly on deprived areas.
And we quote; "those living in poorer areas are more likely to be living next to gambling premises. Those with the least resources are being targeted more, with twice as many gambling venues on their doorstep as supermarkets."
My take on this, the fact that these people are in deprived areas, they still have the financial capability to gamble at these land-based casinos to deal with their luck. There's no reason for the gambling operations to put up their casinos in these areas if it's not gaining good revenue.
Can we still call or consider it as "deprived areas" in general?
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August 23, 2021, 11:41:05 PM |
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing? I do not see any target here, if the casino is located near the poorest part of the country it is mainly because the taxes are low and the rentals are low as well and these casinos could actually boost the local economy as the locals will be getting jobs in these venues. If there is much evidence regarding this then we can tell but there is nothing here even to speculate.
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August 23, 2021, 11:48:45 PM |
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?
Would rather believe that this is a matter of rent and also gambling casinos wont really flourish out if there's no demand of they arent making good revenue which lets exclude that rich people are doing online gambling instead on going to physical places.This is a matter of rent which is cheaper but as a big business it is odd that they wont really be placing themselves on the capital because rent issues wouldnt really be that much of a matter or in concern.If its true that they do really target out poor people or on whose in average then thats quite an effective way of making profits for their part.
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August 23, 2021, 11:53:45 PM |
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing? I do not see any target here, if the casino is located near the poorest part of the country it is mainly because the taxes are low and the rentals are low as well and these casinos could actually boost the local economy as the locals will be getting jobs in these venues. If there is much evidence regarding this then we can tell but there is nothing here even to speculate. I agree with you, moreover I would add if 20% of the gambling venues are located in the poorest parts of the country, it means that 80% aren't located there... And saying only 2% are located in the wealthiest parts of the country, doesn't really make sense because there is usually not any shops in those areas, they are mainly residential.
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August 24, 2021, 01:39:05 AM |
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I'd say cheaper rents. And probably a whole load of pain in the ass papers to process if they were to ever locate their casinos in wealthy places. If it were to be made into a hub instead, then there's a possibility since the profits outweigh the cons, but if it was just a single casino or two? It'd honestly be not worth it ngl. Not to mention that casinos located for the wealthy would probably have all those bunch of fancy smanshy stuff that would cost them more.
And to be fair, from a business perspective, it is a lot easier to milk money off of the poor people. They are taking advantage of them yes, but again it is viewed at from a business perspective where profits reign as the number one reason.
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August 24, 2021, 02:27:02 AM |
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There are probably different explanations or interpretations of these data. But I am inclined to think that it may be true. Gambling for the rich is a form of hobby. It is mostly just for fun. Being that, the rich may not be drawn to it all the time because they could afford a lot of other leisure options or even that many of them are quite busy. But the poor are often drawn into gambling more often because gambling for them may not be just a mere hobby. It is more than that. It is a way for them to make easy money which is what they badly need all the time, which is of course wrong.
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August 24, 2021, 02:47:40 AM |
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?
The casino owners will search for a cheaper place to rent and open the casino but that does not mean they attract attention from the poor to playing gambling. That is just coincidentally if the casino owner opens their business in the poorest areas. If the poor people visit that place and playing gambling, that will not be a mistake from the casino because they do not invite them to come to their place. If the poor do not think much about playing gambling, they can take care of themselves and will not try gambling because of the risk. But that can give the opportunity for people from that place to have a job as an employee.
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August 24, 2021, 03:10:02 AM |
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It's usually the poor who seeks easy money through gambling. It's not just by chance that they just thought of establishing a casino in a particular place without strategic marketing in mind. If the location can easily be reached by people and there is foot traffic, any business will thrive in such a place as long as there are also businesses around the area. Employees of these businesses will have a good time and casino could be a place for entertainment.
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I think the poor are hoping for the best in their risks. It's like targeting the highest risk with the highest rewards, and that's not healthy at all. I believe it's saddening to see this happening in the most inferior part of the country. It is educating them on how to minimize their losses and understanding that you should only gamble if you are willing to lose what you are risking.
Mostly, it's going to be those who believe in the get rich quick type of schemes as well, It doesn't matter if what they're investing in is good or not, but that's just the reality. They should change their mindset to escape the never-ending wheel.
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August 24, 2021, 04:01:25 AM |
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Or maybe the poor people tends to risk on gambling to have 'easy' money and hope to become rich sooner.
As opposed to those rich people who work very hard on their asses to become wealthy. So obviously, they are not willing to put their hard end money on gambling and prefer to re-invest it somewhere. So I guess those operators are playing with poor people emotions and psychology and the environment itself.
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Definitely, I mean, less fortunate people tend to take risk in order to make quick buck or a chance to a jackpot. Even in my area when I was young, although there were no casino, illegal gambling is very rampant. They realize that there are money to be made on gambling on poorer areas. so I am not surprised that they decided to set casinos there. They are businessman, and for them, profit comes first.
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood. So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-reportThat's just garbage. This is not new, it happens in most if not all countries that I know of and has nothing to do with the internet. The issue is as simple as that the rich know that the casino is not a good way to make money, that's why they don't gamble as much. They don't gamble as much-there is less demand-there are fewer gambling establishments opening in wealthy areas. I think the poor are hoping for the best in their risks. It's like targeting the highest risk with the highest rewards, and that's not healthy at all....
Mostly, it's going to be those who believe in the get rich quick type of schemes as well...
This Or maybe the poor people tends to risk on gambling to have 'easy' money and hope to become rich sooner.
As opposed to those rich people who work very hard on their asses to become wealthy. So obviously, they are not willing to put their hard end money on gambling and prefer to re-invest it somewhere. So I guess those operators are playing with poor people emotions and psychology and the environment itself.
And this. This does not mean that the rich do not play, they do play but the percentage of people in wealthy areas is much lower. I would also add another thing: in rich areas they know more mathematics (on average) than in poor areas.
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