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September 15, 2021, 08:14:50 AM
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    On the eve of the upcoming elections, Putin organized a grandiose military exercise along the entire perimeter of the Ukrainian border, including the Belarusian-Ukrainian one. Understanding perfectly well the possible defeat of his party in the elections and taking into account his declining popularity among the people, the Chekist can easily interrupt the elections by starting a war with Ukraine. It seems that the two dictators have decided that war is the surest way to maintain their power. Of course, Putin does not want a repetition of the Belarusian scenario of unsuccessful elections in Russia, and in this case there is nothing better than a war.
   Moreover, the war will finally end the plan, which began in 2014, to return Ukraine to the bosom of the Russian Empire, and also solve the problem of Transnistria. Even if he fails to capture the entire territory of Ukraine, Putin will try to break through the capture of Odessa a corridor to Moldova, completely cutting off Ukraine from the Black Sea.

   The West, due to legislative democratic procedures, will not be able to instantly agree on a joint rebuff to the impudent invasion. The advantage of totalitarian power over democracy will be evident. However, in the long term, the defeat of Russia is inevitable, it is only a pity that many people will be victims of Putin's adventure.

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September 16, 2021, 06:32:03 AM
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Politicians, aggression, endless wars, the passing of lives, refugees. We all yearn for world peace, and everyone lives a happy life. But this is impossible. At least we see no hope for now .
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September 16, 2021, 02:29:06 PM
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War should not be desired instead of elections may every world be beautiful and may all people wish peace. Elections are an important issue in politics especially in the politics of power even a dictator wants to consolidate his power and the politics he pursues through elections once a time has passed many times when the election verdict goes against the ruling party trouble is created. The power and institutions that they had to deal with in the election have never happened in the past in the politics of voting in this country.
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September 16, 2021, 03:15:11 PM
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I have questions with regards to this situation,

If they start a war, will Putin be still the president of Russia, for another term, or just time being after the war?

Cause I'm very curious on what will be the pros and cons of having the war in regards to Putins presidency.

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September 16, 2021, 03:39:20 PM
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I have questions with regards to this situation,

If they start a war, will Putin be still the president of Russia, for another term, or just time being after the war?

Cause I'm very curious on what will be the pros and cons of having the war in regards to Putins presidency.

Russia is a stable country,  things will change if a new president comes.

Now consider China which doesnt go election, their development continues unlike the country that will change administration every 4-6years. They may say its democratic but chaotic since there will be new stance on what matters. What matters for demo may not matter for the reps.

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September 16, 2021, 05:33:32 PM
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I have questions with regards to this situation,

If they start a war, will Putin be still the president of Russia, for another term, or just time being after the war?

Cause I'm very curious on what will be the pros and cons of having the war in regards to Putins presidency.

Russia is a stable country,  things will change if a new president comes.

Now consider China which doesnt go election, their development continues unlike the country that will change administration every 4-6years. They may say its democratic but chaotic since there will be new stance on what matters. What matters for demo may not matter for the reps.

You said "if" well.
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September 17, 2021, 02:47:59 AM
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I have questions with regards to this situation,

If they start a war, will Putin be still the president of Russia, for another term, or just time being after the war?

Cause I'm very curious on what will be the pros and cons of having the war in regards to Putins presidency.

Russia is a stable country,  things will change if a new president comes.

Now consider China which doesnt go election, their development continues unlike the country that will change administration every 4-6years. They may say its democratic but chaotic since there will be new stance on what matters. What matters for demo may not matter for the reps.

You said "if" well.

Well, it happens all over the world. Countries doing elections every 4-6 years are fucked. One big example is the US, that's why politics in the country is bad and the system changes all the time. If they had just stick to Bush all the way until now, they could've built the greatest warlord empire.

Once China or Russia adopts this kind of system, they will eventually fail because they couldn't finish long-term projects when the next president will be trying to destroy the legacy and reputation of the opposition by discontinuing their projects.

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September 18, 2021, 12:32:17 PM
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War instead of elections



    On the eve of the upcoming elections, Putin organized a grandiose military exercise along the entire perimeter of the Ukrainian border, including the Belarusian-Ukrainian one. Understanding perfectly well the possible defeat of his party in the elections and taking into account his declining popularity among the people, the Chekist can easily interrupt the elections by starting a war with Ukraine. It seems that the two dictators have decided that war is the surest way to maintain their power. Of course, Putin does not want a repetition of the Belarusian scenario of unsuccessful elections in Russia, and in this case there is nothing better than a war.
   Moreover, the war will finally end the plan, which began in 2014, to return Ukraine to the bosom of the Russian Empire, and also solve the problem of Transnistria. Even if he fails to capture the entire territory of Ukraine, Putin will try to break through the capture of Odessa a corridor to Moldova, completely cutting off Ukraine from the Black Sea.

   The West, due to legislative democratic procedures, will not be able to instantly agree on a joint rebuff to the impudent invasion. The advantage of totalitarian power over democracy will be evident. However, in the long term, the defeat of Russia is inevitable, it is only a pity that many people will be victims of Putin's adventure.

  09/15/2021
.our politicians should take away selfish interest away and consider the common citizens. If war should happen they will run away to hide. War affects children and women mostly . I think war is not the best because of a political position.

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September 18, 2021, 02:54:22 PM
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I have questions with regards to this situation,

If they start a war, will Putin be still the president of Russia, for another term, or just time being after the war?

Cause I'm very curious on what will be the pros and cons of having the war in regards to Putins presidency.

Russia is a stable country,  things will change if a new president comes.

Now consider China which doesnt go election, their development continues unlike the country that will change administration every 4-6years. They may say its democratic but chaotic since there will be new stance on what matters. What matters for demo may not matter for the reps.

You said "if" well.

Well, it happens all over the world. Countries doing elections every 4-6 years are fucked. One big example is the US, that's why politics in the country is bad and the system changes all the time. If they had just stick to Bush all the way until now, they could've built the greatest warlord empire.

Once China or Russia adopts this kind of system, they will eventually fail because they couldn't finish long-term projects when the next president will be trying to destroy the legacy and reputation of the opposition by discontinuing their projects.


You do have a good point, but POWER is very drowning, and the more a person bath in power, the more he seeks it and want to have it for himself. Which leads to the current corruption in Russia that was seen right now.

It also happens in the Philippines in the regime of Marcoses, It was a democratic country yet he holds presidency for 21 years which leads to finished infrastracture projects. But the other side of the coin is pure madness; murders for anyone who seeks justice, media was robbed from their right to broadcast, Large scale corruption, and many more. All of this is just for the sake of holding the power of presidency.

It is indeed true that some projects are being discontinued but the reason is logical and rational. Those are only for some, but most projects are being continued, its just that the current administration who finished it takes the credit.

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November 12, 2021, 07:51:09 PM
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In my opinion, war is (and not going to be) a solution to settle disputes or achieve any goals.
Here is this case war will not going to solve this issue. Yes indeed following the democratic procedures can give you the results to return Ukraine to the bosom of the Russian Empire. Democracy is the only solution, not the war.
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November 14, 2021, 06:30:12 AM
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In my opinion, war is (and not going to be) a solution to settle disputes or achieve any goals.
Here is this case war will not going to solve this issue. Yes indeed following the democratic procedures can give you the results to return Ukraine to the bosom of the Russian Empire. Democracy is the only solution, not the war.


But it seems like violence is the best way to achieve what one desires recently.
The politics of government and countries aren't favourable to the masses.
Democracy lately is not even respected.

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November 14, 2021, 09:31:45 AM
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In my opinion, war is (and not going to be) a solution to settle disputes or achieve any goals.
Here is this case war will not going to solve this issue. Yes indeed following the democratic procedures can give you the results to return Ukraine to the bosom of the Russian Empire. Democracy is the only solution, not the war.

You are right because war is like a destructive elements between two counterparts, and immediately they introduce war for something that will be resolve with initiative, in the best way to settle a dispute agreement and understanding, from things i notice when a band of war is drawn everything will be scattered i think what you said is best option.

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November 14, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
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In my opinion, war is (and not going to be) a solution to settle disputes or achieve any goals. 


Politicians do not like losing power or territory and will drag the entire country to war because of their ambitions. If they can go to war on their own with their family members alone I do not think anyone will care. It is the way we find it in Africa also with politicians not conceding defeat in elections. Highly selfish individuals who will go to sleep while the entire country burns provided it does not affect them.

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November 16, 2021, 10:10:47 PM
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There is no dictator that would be willing to submit or loose power willing, not of this world, not by a chance. Looking at the life they enjoy at being the past of all things and making decisions with biased mindsets without being questioned or answerable to anyone, it makes the possibility of loosing power to be accompanied by crazy moves to keep it. War isn't a limitation to that as, elections through democracy is far from the dictatorship form of governance. What a use of the army he has got there, properly stationed to not just instill fear in the minds of voters but might even handle and alter electoral materials and result in his favour should it come to that.

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November 17, 2021, 04:03:40 PM
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War is not the solution to any problem. But it creates many problems like poverty, disability, hunger, etc. World war-1 & world war -2 shows that how it brought havoc and destruction to the world. loss of millions of people's life uncountable loss of money and property pushed humanity to a low standard of life and all nations of the world were come to think of some solution through table talk.but.........Election and democracy is a good trend and tradition to give respect to the opinion of the people regarding their rights.

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I have questions with regards to this situation,

If they start a war, will Putin be still the president of Russia, for another term, or just time being after the war?

Cause I'm very curious on what will be the pros and cons of having the war in regards to Putins presidency.

Russia is a stable country,  things will change if a new president comes.

Now consider China which doesnt go election, their development continues unlike the country that will change administration every 4-6years. They may say its democratic but chaotic since there will be new stance on what matters. What matters for demo may not matter for the reps.

You said "if" well.

Well, it happens all over the world. Countries doing elections every 4-6 years are fucked. One big example is the US, that's why politics in the country is bad and the system changes all the time. If they had just stick to Bush all the way until now, they could've built the greatest warlord empire.

Once China or Russia adopts this kind of system, they will eventually fail because they couldn't finish long-term projects when the next president will be trying to destroy the legacy and reputation of the opposition by discontinuing their projects.


  And who said that long-term projects are good? All dictators, as history shows, had a sad end.
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As Stalin said long ago, "It's not he who votes that counts, but he that counts the votes."

If Ukraine ever had elections that weren't manipulated by the vote counters, the people and government would have become friends with Russia long ago, and the war would have not been needed to protect Russia from Stalin-like Ukrainian government usurpers moving against Russia.

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July 30, 2022, 03:02:14 PM
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Here, do pardon my use of Putin in place of dictatorship and Ukraine instead of commoners. As my fellow forum member, Xinarae, has rightly put it in reply to this post, '
war should not be desired over election.' But where Putin is involved, sorry, war would definitely claim the answer over Ukraine. Election actually was supposed to be a platform whereby credible leadership were to be put in place but the opposite is the case today in so many countries of the world. Take Africa as a victim of electoral malpractice and United States as a victor. Nigerians will tell you to your face, rigging is part of the process. And Putin will continue to rule supreme in Africa.
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As Stalin said long ago, "It's not he who votes that counts, but he that counts the votes."

If Ukraine ever had elections that weren't manipulated by the vote counters, the people and government would have become friends with Russia long ago, and the war would have not been needed to protect Russia from Stalin-like Ukrainian government usurpers moving against Russia.

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  There is definitely a logic of Lies here. Not one word is true. This lie about Ukraine planning to attack Russia is a perfect example of classic Absurdity.
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As Stalin said long ago, "It's not he who votes that counts, but he that counts the votes."

If Ukraine ever had elections that weren't manipulated by the vote counters, the people and government would have become friends with Russia long ago, and the war would have not been needed to protect Russia from Stalin-like Ukrainian government usurpers moving against Russia.

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  There is definitely a logic of Lies here. Not one word is true. This lie about Ukraine planning to attack Russia is a perfect example of classic Absurdity.

Do you really think that when the Ukrainian government/military moved against Russians and Russian friendly Ukrainians in Donbas for the last 14 years... do you really believe that this was not an attack on Russia? Russia and the Ukraine have been sister nations for decades and decades. Pushing Russia into a civil war isn't the way you treat family.

Of course, it was the US leaders and others like them that were behind it all. The CIA was behind the counting of the votes, and the 3 (more?) coups that made it look like the Ukrainian people were dead set against Russia. And it was done for money.

Search on the three big US corporations that have bought up 60% of Ukrainian farmland since 2014. The US is simply protecting their interests, and conquering Ukraine, and making it look like sister Russia is the demon.

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