Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

There shouldn't be any reason as all possible reasons had been eliminated. Before the introduction of copper membership, project wanting to make an announcement on the forum, buy account to do so since newbie account weren't given the privilege of posting images but now things has changed as with just few dollars you can bypass most of the newbie restrictions and make your announcement.

I think the reason behind the unofficial banning of buying and selling of account on the forum is as a result of the level of farming that was ongoing on the forum before the introduction of the merit system. This farmers wee basically spamming and this was causing a nuisance on the forum.

Secondly any account that change hands wasn't to be trusted as a result of the risk involved, imagining someone buying a trusted account and the level of harm he can commit. You don't have any reason why you should buy an account, if you want to learn then start the learning process from the beginning.

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[KingsDen]

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Ok! I remember I came across this rule but as a newbie. Maybe I'll go through the rules again.
What I discussed is that some things that are allowed in the forum are not done at will. It might be because there is no way to control it, then it will just be allowed. Like scam not being moderated and even the sales of account.
The statement that something is allowed and at same time discouraged is somewhat ambiguous.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

So it's very obvious that some a plagarised work can't be detected at the initial point or stage due to know one is after the account then, and immediately the account joined a potential signature campaign a proper Plagiarism test will be carried and if eventually detected a plagarised article or work that  has be done for years the user will face panel of judges, so it's educative to isolate a copy and paste articles for reference purposes, and not to be ban, take precautions newbies especially.

When a post is written this badly (see snippet above), I just tune it out completely.  OP, even if I could completely understand what you're trying to say, what's your point?  What you've written looks very much like an attempt to earn merit.  Why?  The post is in Meta, where a great deal of merits circulate; it's about plagiarism, which seems to be a trending topic lately (though I don't know why, because it's nothing new); and you've taken a stance--I think--in line with pretty much every merit source and senior member who might have sMerits to give.

We don't need another thread about plagiarism.  Members are going to keep doing it, and they're going to become more clever about how they go about it.  There's nothing to do but report it when we see it.  Period.

[GeorgeJohn]

344 merit and 251 merit is from local friends. 3 topics to teach the plagiarism received merits from local friends too.

Sent 170 merit and 118 to local friends.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=GeorgeJohn

While are you taking issue that has been treated before so serious, this particular matter has been sorted out for long, even moderator deleted the post, I have to use my passed experience to encourage new one's, while you are busy forwarding the matter, if i may ask you is this thread you refresh a new thread, so you are using my thread to get credit,

See I don't want to have any encounter with any one, I believe you were the one that reported that thread before, I have noticed you have been attacking me in different ramifications since I joined forum, both of us were member when this happen, so what are we dragging that made you to be over inquisitive in account, mod has deleted the thread, so what actually is your plan over my account.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

344 merit and 251 merit is from local friends. 3 topics to teach the plagiarism received merits from local friends too.

Sent 170 merit and 118 to local friends.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=GeorgeJohn

While are you taking issue that has been treated before so serious, this particular matter has been sorted out for long, even moderator deleted the post, I have to use my passed experience to encourage new one's, while you are busy forwarding the matter, if i may ask you is this thread you refresh a new thread, so you are using my thread to get credit,

See I don't want to have any encounter with any one, I believe you were the one that reported that thread before, I have noticed you have been attacking me in different ramifications since I joined forum, both of us were member when this happen, so what are we dragging that made you to be over inquisitive in account, mod has deleted the thread, so what actually is your plan over my account.

Did you think you not plagiarized anything?
Did you think that a moderator handled this gave you a second chance means that you are innocent?
If I did not make that post, will you create your 4th, 5th, 10th topic about plagiarism?

I don't make that post to call a ban on you but just to say, your topics are non sense and you should stop it.

Moreover, look at your merit history. Full of exchanges and you can not deny it. If anyone look at your friends, they have full of exchanges too.

Your local farm create many non sense topics, replied with each other, compromised it to exchange merits. Stop it. It is what I mean. I don't care about a ban on your account, dude.

Why topic that is reported as plagiarism was deleted?

[Quickseller]

I would not ban him for this post, but would see it as multiple low effort posts. It is clear that what he wrote was not his original thought and that he got the specific information from a single source. This is not something that was inspired by a source. He made changes to the syntax of what was written.

[CryptocurencyKing]

To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

There shouldn't be any reason as all possible reasons had been eliminated. Before the introduction of copper membership, project wanting to make an announcement on the forum, buy account to do so since newbie account weren't given the privilege of posting images but now things has changed as with just few dollars you can bypass most of the newbie restrictions and make your announcement.

Of course, most persons buy account just for the sake of participating in bounties and signature campaigns. Knowing that ranks comes with certain benefits and as such, it has resulted to a lot of farmed accounts in the forum. Mostly grown in the local boards if you ask me as, one can neither tell completely what goes on there if you aren't from that locality. Even a Google translation won't give you a complete thought on the discussions.

Forum not to have made account buying a detestable rule, I suppose was due to the copper membership kind of buy and white listing or I should say an upgrade on a new account. Not farmed and sold accounts. Perhaps, there should be another name to classify buy a copper member and the actually account farming and sales. So one can be regarded as a detestable crime and when found wanting, the accounts would be punished with a forum rule. Just as it is done in cases of plagiarism.

[Gambit2s]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Bit off topic but i've always wanted to know.

[Pmalek]

im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Sometimes, it's obvious by just looking at it. The post seems too good when you check the post history of that particular user. A brilliant post in a history of incomprehensible, hard to understand, and mindless replies. Especially if it's obvious that the user doesn't speak English.

You can just google plagiarism checkers and use whatever you find in the results. Or, take a sentence or two out of a post and run it through a search engine to see if you get any hits. There are also paid and professional apps for finding plagiarized content, but I don't know of any by heart.   

[lovesmayfamilis]

Likely, this is not quite the topic in which to discuss all the subtleties of detecting plagiarism? Isn't it? If the user was not born yesterday on the Internet, finding this forum, he can easily find topics that were devoted to the search for plagiarism on the forum, and even more so on the World Wide Web.
I can say one thing, plagiarism can be seen, it beeps with red headlights, at the moment when I read that the user learned about bitcoin yesterday, and after three posts, we are already reading the complete guide to using cryptocurrency wallets.
Therefore, a little advice to all future plagiarists, try to match the image with which you started your journey on the forum. 

[ifarted]

Most newbies get banned because of plagiarism. Most users who commits plagiarisms are very lazy to construct their own words instead they copied and post it as if they own it. They just want shortcuts through success. That's why they got banned.

Some are having a hard time learning about bitcoin because they find it difficult to understand and i don't blame them but every problems has its own solutions. Why not make a thread and ask others whom are your seniors about their opinion and knowledge to guide you. It is very simple and much safer for you to avoid getting banned.

[GeorgeJohn]

Most newbies get banned because of plagiarism. Most users who commits plagiarisms are very lazy to construct their own words instead they copied and post it as if they own it. They just want shortcuts through success. That's why they got banned.

Some are having a hard time learning about bitcoin because they find it difficult to understand and i don't blame them but every problems has its own solutions. Why not make a thread and ask others whom are your seniors about their opinion and knowledge to guide you. It is very simple and much safer for you to avoid getting banned.

I will say some of is ignorant of that, because i believe that some of the plagarism is unintentional and that should be the reason some of queue to commit the same crime, and it's basically known that if you are not informed you are basically deformed, one thing is that newbies don't observe very well before creating topics, and some factors that lead them into this, is because of ranking up that will enable them to join signature campaign, i can't blame shall, but at least since the system has be porous enough. I think they will withdraw from the commitment a little bit.

[UmerIdrees]

Newbies It will be very heart breaking and discouraging to build an account into a good rank and having joined in a good campaign get banned for plagiarism that you commited at the early stages of your account.

There must be very few such cases. The point is that if a person has an habit of plagiarism and he got un-noticed, he or she will continue the plagiarism and will be caught eventually.  Its hard to believe that anyone who do plagiarism initially one or twice, stopped doing it later.  If he know that plagiarism is not allowed and will ban his account, why would he do in the first place. plagiarism is mostly done by those who are unable to write good posts themselves.

[lovesmayfamilis]

There must be very few such cases. The point is that if a person has an habit of plagiarism and he got un-noticed, he or she will continue the plagiarism and will be caught eventually.  Its hard to believe that anyone who do plagiarism initially one or twice, stopped doing it later.  If he know that plagiarism is not allowed and will ban his account, why would he do in the first place. plagiarism is mostly done by those who are unable to write good posts themselves.

You hit the mark with your judgments. This is exactly what happens. This is human psychology. If a person has committed plagiarism once, then either he is not aware that plagiarism is not permissible, or he hopes to hide it and remain unnoticed.
This is exactly what happened two days ago. I saw that the senior member had committed plagiarism. Then I went through his posts and found another 3. I didn’t look anymore, since this amount is quite enough to assure the moderators that plagiarism is not accidental.
His account was banned.
And what happens the next morning? The owner of the banned account raises his second account and registers with the company in which he wrote his first account. Judging by his writing style, some points are very similar, so there is no doubt that the second account belongs to him as well.
I checked his posts too. And I was not even surprised, as there was a lot of plagiarism on the second account.
Therefore, it should not always be assumed that plagiarism is an accidental act, it is not at all the case.

[GeorgeJohn]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Bit off topic but i've always wanted to know.

I think you should ask lovesmayfamilis and loyceV to explain to you how to carry on a plagarism test to any account, many user does it, but with personal message communication i think they will give you a better information concerning detecting plagarism test.

[Upgrade00]

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One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text, this would create a search for the exact text and not related ones which search engines normally use. This is good for exposing copy pastes, but would not exactly work for word spinners and paraphrases

There are also some plagiarism tools which can show the percentage of plagiarism in a text, but I've personally not used any of them.

[GeorgeJohn]

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One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text, this would create a search for the exact text and not related ones which search engines normally use. This is good for exposing copy pastes, but would not exactly work for word spinners and paraphrases

There are also some plagiarism tool, but I've personally not used any of them.

Thanks you for the way out for the ideology to run a plagarism test, the knowledge you impact on me, to be sincere i have not done that before and i will practice it in order to check what will be the outcome, I'm glad for this knowledge, on my own i taught we have a specific data use to carry out the test of plagarism. But since you have explained it to my liking i will definitely carry on the practical example.

[lovesmayfamilis]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Bit off topic but i've always wanted to know.

I think you should ask lovesmayfamilis and loyceV to explain to you how to carry on a plagarism test to any account, many user does it, but with personal message communication i think they will give you a better information concerning detecting plagarism test.

You missed my answer just above. I have already spoken about my vision of how to tell newbies all the ways to recognize plagiarism. It's rather strange to me that a beginner is interested in how we detect plagiarism. As a skeptic, I begin to suspect that his interest is not accidental. Moreover, all the information is on the forum in the public domain, you just have to search a little.
 And yes, one more thing, you missed the rule about unsolicited private messages. I'm not sure if I want to waste time and generally talk with an account unknown to me in my personal account.

[LoyceV]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ?

I think you should ask lovesmayfamilis and loyceV to explain to you how to carry on a plagarism test to any account

I usually just Google it:

One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text

Plagiarism is often quite obvious: if a bounty spammer suddenly created a long post, that's a red flag. Or if someone earned all his Merit only from one post.
Sometimes it's easy to detect, but when they use a word spinner it becomes much more difficult (and more satisfying to catch them).

[Poker Player]

I usually just Google it:

I have caught plagiarism a few times, and at first I used google but at some point I started using free versions of plagarism checker that you can find on the web. I don't know if there is much of a difference.