Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism

[GeorgeJohn]

We all know that Plagiarism is a big offensive crime according to the rules and regulations of the forum, and as a new forum user we are permitted to undergo the process of observing the rules at first, it's quite understandable the numbers of accumulated users that enhance to the commitment of Plagiarism or violates the protocols of the forum, eighty eight percent (%88) are (NEWBIES) while the remaining twelve percent (%12) are old members who plagarised article at early stages of joining the community.

So it's very obvious that some a plagarised work can't be detected at the initial point or stage due to know one is after the account then, and immediately the account joined a potential signature campaign a proper Plagiarism test will be carried and if eventually detected a plagarised article or work that  has be done for years the user will face panel of judges, so it's educative to isolate a copy and paste articles for reference purposes, and not to be ban, take precautions newbies especially.

 No Excuses For Plagiarism
From my  perspective, it's very clear that law can only be amended generally when the it's needful not because of one individual mistake of plagiarising article, so violating the rules and regulations if the organization or forum can't make people innate the law to reverse the already existing law that was implemented officially for the benefit of every user,

so i noticed that no Plagiarism that is unintentional, from my angle of understanding of mistake via Plagiarism, after two (2) or three (3) days interval of writing or posting a an article without corrections, from my perspective any post that's made after this period i mentioned above without corrections, is not longer Unintentional  Plagiarism, i may say that what really contribute to this effect of violating or committing Plagiarism is Laziness and over inquisitive to earn a Merit.

Disadvantages of purchasing an account.
Purchasing an already made grow account is not really ideal from my observations, i have come across in bitcoin where a user is emphasising that  or stipulates categorically  that purchasing  of an account is not against the terms and conditions of of the forum, yeah i accepted the concept, but it's very dangerous to purchase another person's already used account, because the. Account can as well commit plagiarism without the knowledge of the buyer, so therefore it's of higher risk to acknowledge someone's account, because the user might commit early Plagiarism with the account before selling it out which might being detect when the account join a higher paying campaign,

Five Elements for avoiding or eradicating of Plagiarism
1) Removal of laziness when making a post,
2) Add a source if copied an articles online and paste,
3) Think before creating a topic
4) study and research for post
5) Read carefully before making a post.

So I'm using this medium to recapitulate that purchasing an account is at higher risk due the account commitment of plagiarism and spamming before selling

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[Rruchi man]

We all know that Plagiarism is a big offensive crime according to the rules and regulations of the forum, and as a new forum user we are permitted to undergo the process of observing the rules at first, it's quite understandable the numbers of accumulated users that enhance to the commitment of Plagiarism or violates the protocols of the forum, eighty eight percent (%88) are (NEWBIES) while the remaining twelve percent (%12) are old members who plagarised article at early stages of joining the community.

Newbies It will be very heart breaking and discouraging to build an account into a good rank and having joined in a good campaign get banned for plagiarism that you commited at the early stages of your account. That's why as much as possible you must try to contribute only original contents and be sure to make proper reference when you are quoting someone. Make comments and create reasonable topics in boards that you are comfortable with. You don't have to make the drive to impress make you plagiarize someone's work, take it easy, do your research, be free and express yourself.

[ShowOff]

-snip- eighty eight percent (%88) are (NEWBIES) while the remaining twelve percent (%12) are old members who plagarised article at early stages of joining the community.

Tell me where did you get that percentage, have you done your own analysis so far of which ranking violates that rule the most?

Five Elements for avoiding or eradicating of Plagiarism

Avoiding or preventing is completely different from eradicating. Avoiding or preventing means that you must have a desire not to plagiarize and if you want to copy from other source then link the source but that doesn't mean you have to copy everything without adding your assumption. So linking to the source of the cited article is a credit to the owner. However, if you want to eradicate plagiarism then you just need to report it by using the "rtm" button if you don't want the public to know your identity.

[CryptocurencyKing]

Apparently, the plagiarism rule is one of the most reverence rule in the forum and it so much stands out. If only the newbies and other beginners could visit the LoyceV's report thread Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed on meta and perhaps pay regular visit to the Reputation sub board, then they would realise what it actually means to blatantly plagiarise someone's content. The problem often starts while the users are still beginners in the forum, being ignorant of the rules and not having ideas to make good contributions to the forum. Unfortunately, ignorance and being a beginner is not much of an adorned excuse.
It's so unfortunate when old mistakes catch up to ranked up users. This is why the plagiarism awareness post is one of the most preached subject of the forum.

[nakamura12]

I am not surprised that some newbies are getting banned because of plagiarism. Even though many high ranking forum users provide links for newbies to read abd learn before posting something to avoid getting banned and yet mostly newbies tend to plagiarise. Even the higher rank also plagiarise. There are some that will get a second chance and avoid getting banned unless they do it again. It happen especially for those who contributed a lot to the forum.

[BitMaxz]

Does it seem you didn't understand what actually is plagiarism?

Read this

Source: google.com

Plagiarism is not a crime don't treat it as a crime it's prohibited here on the forum due to copyright and fraud and without proper credit to the author, it must be punished.

And this is not a law this is a rule here on the forum and it's prohibited not only here on the forum but it's all over the internet.

[KingsDen]

Disadvantages of purchasing an account.
Purchasing an already made grow account is not really ideal from my observations, i have come across in bitcoin where a user is emphasising that  or stipulates categorically  that purchasing  of an account is not against the terms and conditions of of the forum, yeah i accepted the concept, but it's very dangerous to purchase another person's already used account, because the. Account can as well commit plagiarism without the knowledge of the buyer, so therefore it's of higher risk to acknowledge someone's account, because the user might commit early Plagiarism with the account before selling it out which might being detect when the account join a higher paying campaign,

I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.
Account selling without public announcement will be suicidal and defamatory. I cannot imagine for instance @The Pharmacist account is sold and another personality now behind the account.
It means transfer of reputation;
Transfer of Trust
And transfer of identity to someone else. Users can actually hide behind another man's reputation and scam many.
It seems I'm being curious for nothing. If one actually wants to sell his account, no one will stop him/she because he owns the computer, the account, the email as well as the password. But tbh it's not pleasant to the ear.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

You plagiarized and how many times you tried to teach about plagiarism.

Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism
My taught of plagiarism, spamming and scam in forum.
Plagiarism in newbies

https://archive.md/deG17

[Poker Player]

You plagiarized and how many times you tried to teach about plagiarism.

Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism
My taught of plagiarism, spamming and scam in forum.
Plagiarism in newbies

https://archive.md/deG17

You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Also, if it was just one time, it would maybe happen as in the case of Mpamaegbu. I think someone who only plagiarized once, maybe twice at most in the forum (depending on the case), especially if his contribution to the forum is positive, should be dealt from a lenient perspective.

[bitgov]

Disadvantages of purchasing an account.
Purchasing an already made grow account is not really ideal from my observations, i have come across in bitcoin where a user is emphasising that  or stipulates categorically  that purchasing  of an account is not against the terms and conditions of of the forum, yeah i accepted the concept, but it's very dangerous to purchase another person's already used account, because the. Account can as well commit plagiarism without the knowledge of the buyer, so therefore it's of higher risk to acknowledge someone's account, because the user might commit early Plagiarism with the account before selling it out which might being detect when the account join a higher paying campaign,

So I'm using this medium to recapitulate that purchasing an account is at higher risk due the account commitment of plagiarism and spamming before selling

Accounts sale purchase is on high since there are bounties that only allow senior/ legendary/hero members to participate. Majority buys account with this intention. Its like a shortcut of sitting with high profile members while you are a newbie.
One method to discourage sale of account is to allow newbies to join the bounty campaigns but reward is based only on level of content they post.

I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.

AFAIk, its not allowed to sale or purchase bitcointalk.org account. Count me in for people looking for reference where it says "its allowed".

[Despairo]

I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.

AFAIk, its not allowed to sale or purchase bitcointalk.org account. Count me in for people looking for reference where it says "its allowed".

On forum rules number 18 said account sales are allowed, but discouraged. What does discouraged mean? to let know members who trust user A isn't controlled by A person anymore, which is you can gave negative trust to the account if you didn't trust him again or you could gave neutral trust as for your own notes.
To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Read @DdmrDdmr replies below the thread.

@DdmrDdmr post provide a link to buy Bitcoin in ATMs

By the way, the so called instructions are very similar to those found here: https://coinatmradar.com/blog/how-to-buy-bitcoins-with-bitcoin-atm/

San-Diego based company Genesis Coin produces three types of ATMs: Genesis1 (two-way), Satoshi1 (one-way) and Satoshi2 (two-way). The process of purchasing bitcoins may have a verification procedure, in this case:
•   Click “Buy Bitcoins”
•   Provide mobile number
•   Enter received validation code
•   Scan fingerprint
•   Select coin (this type of machine may support not only Bitcoin, but also Litecoin, Dogecoin, Blackcoin, XCurrency)
•   Choose to scan wallet (pre-defined) or generate new
•   Scan wallet QR code if chosen
•   Insert cash bills
•   Click send
•   Get printed receipt

@GeorgeJohn thread

-step1: just click on " buy Btc"

-step2: click  " input your mobile number "

-step3: enter your received validation code.

-step4: scam your thumb in the machines, for security purpose.

-step5: select your crptocurrency you need, example: LTC, ETH, BTC or any of the coin you choose to buy.

-step6: select your scam wallet.

-step7: select scam wallet code.

Step8: input cash bill.

-step9: click send.

-step10: wait for transaction to process.

Close isn't? what is scam wallet lol, this is proof @GeorgeJohn direct copy paste an article.

[Poker Player]

Read @DdmrDdmr replies below the thread.

@DdmrDdmr post provide a link to buy Bitcoin in ATMs
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Close isn't? what is scam wallet lol, this is proof @GeorgeJohn direct copy paste an article.

I do not see a flagrant case of plagiarism there. It is similar, yes, but that can be written from memory by someone who is used to how Bitcoin ATMs work, it is common knowlegde. As mk4 said:

Sort of "accidental" plagiarism should be really uncommon; especially if the statement was something really really common.

For example: "A hardware wallet is the best option for holding your cryptocurrencies long-term". While I literally just wrote that myself right now with no intent of copying anyone, I wouldn't be surprised if the same exact line was posted at least once in the past on some article or forum post. Obviously this shouldn't be bannable simply because it's very common information.

DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.

[Despairo]

I do not see a flagrant case of plagiarism there. It is similar, yes, but that can be written from memory by someone who is used to how Bitcoin ATMs work, it is common knowlegde. As mk4 said:

Sort of "accidental" plagiarism should be really uncommon; especially if the statement was something really really common.

For example: "A hardware wallet is the best option for holding your cryptocurrencies long-term". While I literally just wrote that myself right now with no intent of copying anyone, I wouldn't be surprised if the same exact line was posted at least once in the past on some article or forum post. Obviously this shouldn't be bannable simply because it's very common information.

DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.

What @GeorgeJohn and @mk4 cases are different, that is true a common definition is not a plagiarism, but on @GeorgeJohn thread he multiple times mention unrelated words. If @GeorgeJohn really know how to use Bitcoin ATMs, he should know what the difference between both of scan and scam. Those radars he wrote also doesn't make sense, for me that is he took someone article and translate it without read twice what the google translate wrote.

[lovesmayfamilis]

You plagiarized and how many times you tried to teach about plagiarism.

Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism
My taught of plagiarism, spamming and scam in forum.
Plagiarism in newbies

https://archive.md/deG17

You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.

[Poker Player]

What @GeorgeJohn and @mk4 cases are different, that is true a common definition is not a plagiarism, but on @GeorgeJohn thread he multiple times mention unrelated words. If @GeorgeJohn really know how to use Bitcoin ATMs, he should know what the difference between both of scan and scam. Those radars he wrote also doesn't make sense, for me that is he took someone article and translate it without read twice what the google translate wrote.

I have seen that the thread is no longer in its post history. It's strange to me because I thought they were going to the "archival" section. In that section there is a thread:

Delete

but I don't think it's the thread we're talking about, because I think the answers from other forum users would be there.

In any case I agree with lovesmayfamilis:

Well, if this is plagiarism, then there must be a source where it was copied from. I could not find it, and the post is gone. Why excavate the dead?

In my opinion, which does not have to coincide with that of the moderators and Theymos, even if he plagiarized that one time, just that one time, and deleted the thread, no drastic consequences should be taken. Just a warning would do.

[GeorgeJohn]

You plagiarized and how many times you tried to teach about plagiarism.

Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism
My taught of plagiarism, spamming and scam in forum.
Plagiarism in newbies

https://archive.md/deG17

You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.

That thread was made when i was a member, and at period i never go through the rules and regulations of the community or master the community criteria, and after the post been reported to moderator for a while it was wiped, because i used my initiative to write almost of them, so that prompted me to make this thread to new users, and i do that repeatedly to newbies to read the rules and regulations of community first before anything, because during my time of newbies i was not opportune to read the rules in time to know system, go through my profile the topic is not there, it's happens because i have no guidance, just cross check thread and see when it happens, long time ago and its not longer in my profile.

[lovesmayfamilis]

You plagiarized and how many times you tried to teach about plagiarism.

Disadvantages of non detectable early Plagiarism
My taught of plagiarism, spamming and scam in forum.
Plagiarism in newbies

https://archive.md/deG17

You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.

That thread was made when i was a member, and at period i never go through the rules and regulations of the community or master the community criteria, and after the post been reported to moderator for a while it was wiped, because i used my initiative to write almost of them, so that prompted me to make this thread to new users, and i do that repeatedly to newbies to read the rules and regulations of community first before anything, because during my time of newbies i was not opportune to read the rules in time to know system, go through my profile the topic is not there, it's happens because i have no guidance, just cross check thread and see when it happens, long time ago and its not longer in my profile.

Oh, my God! It is sometimes very helpful to read the responses of the people in the thread you are creating. First, at least the previous answer. You should not write in a personal, proving something. Moreover, I didn’t blame you.
Another thing is, why to create regularly the same type of topic ?
No comments.
 

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.

I can’t recall if I did, and the historical report window only displays the most recent 30 day window. The fact that the thread was deleted denotes that is was likely reported by someone, and that the moderator took action to delete it (which often happens when a plagiarized post is deleted). Nevertheless, there may have been a tinkle of doubt on the moderator’s behalf, who therefore likely decided to act no further, giving the benefit of the doubt at the time.

Interesting sidenote exercise: Anyone who has fully read the thread so far, try to see if they can now enumerate the 10 steps mentioned on a given post within this thread, in the same order, and bearing a similar concept on each step. I got 4 out of 10 matching order and concept (others items I listed were rather distant on both accounts), having read it twice beforehand. What a memory of mine …

Thought: I’ve often thought that there could be a number of fault points per account, whereby each rule infringement reduced the amount depending on the broken rule, leading to scaled bans when the balance was under a certain threshold. Not going to happen I figure, but I’d ponder such a module (with some added complexities I can think of).

Edit:

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I don’t want to derail the topic too much here, but your list, whilst bearing logical steps, is not that close a match to the lists I mentioned before, which bear an exact match between them in order and concept per item on the list, with somewhat different wording.

[Poker Player]

<…> DdmrDdmr talks about it being similar, I think if he had seen plagiarism he would have reported it.

I can’t recall if I did, and the historical report window only displays the most recent 30 day window. The fact that the thread was deleted denotes that is was likely reported by someone, and that the moderator took action to delete it (which often happens when a plagiarized post is deleted). Nevertheless, there may have been a tinkle of doubt on the moderator’s behalf, who therefore likely decided to act no further, giving the benefit of the doubt at the time.

It seems from what GeorgeJohn says that he recognizes that he did something wrong.

Interesting sidenote exercise: Anyone who has fully read the thread so far, try to see if they can now enumerate the 10 steps mentioned on a given post within this thread, in the same order, and bearing a similar concept on each step. I got 4 out of 10 matching order and concept (others items I listed were rather distant on both accounts), having read it twice beforehand. What a memory of mine …

But are you trying you memorize it without having used Bitcoin ATMs many times? I haven't, but I have used cash ATMs thousands of times and I can tell you from memory the steps (the last time was yesterday, although I guess the steps can change from country to country):

1) Insert your debit or credit card.
2) Select language
3) Enter PIN.
4) Select "withdraw"
5) Select or type in the amount.
6) Take the cash
7) Choose if you want a printed receipt
Choose if you want to do another transaction.
9) Take your card.

I've just written this from memory and I've googled it and I see quite similar results. That's what I meant when I said that for someone used to using Bitcoin ATMs a lot, the steps would be common knowledge. Those are not original thoughts that I've copied, it's not like I am pretending that the general theory of relativity is an original thought of mine.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I don’t want to derail the topic too much here, but your list, whilst bearing logical steps, is not that close a match to the lists I mentioned before, which bear an exact match between them in order and concept per item on the list, with somewhat different wording.

Not only the words, but the image.

Common steps and use similar or different words, it is too much coincidence.
Image, how the writer got that image?

If it is from any article and if from the article you shown, it is a proof that the content is likely copied and pasted with some minor word changes.

Really, funny. For the OP, this is the third topic about the same thing.
OP, have you discovered something new? In the previous threads, you have decently raised the amount of merit. We can see that you are pleased. In this case, create a directory of recommendations from GeorgeJohn, which we will contact in case of problems with plagiarism.

344 merit and 251 merit is from local friends. 3 topics to teach the plagiarism received merits from local friends too.

Sent 170 merit and 118 to local friends.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=GeorgeJohn

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

There shouldn't be any reason as all possible reasons had been eliminated. Before the introduction of copper membership, project wanting to make an announcement on the forum, buy account to do so since newbie account weren't given the privilege of posting images but now things has changed as with just few dollars you can bypass most of the newbie restrictions and make your announcement.

I think the reason behind the unofficial banning of buying and selling of account on the forum is as a result of the level of farming that was ongoing on the forum before the introduction of the merit system. This farmers wee basically spamming and this was causing a nuisance on the forum.

Secondly any account that change hands wasn't to be trusted as a result of the risk involved, imagining someone buying a trusted account and the level of harm he can commit. You don't have any reason why you should buy an account, if you want to learn then start the learning process from the beginning.

[KingsDen]

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Ok! I remember I came across this rule but as a newbie. Maybe I'll go through the rules again.
What I discussed is that some things that are allowed in the forum are not done at will. It might be because there is no way to control it, then it will just be allowed. Like scam not being moderated and even the sales of account.
The statement that something is allowed and at same time discouraged is somewhat ambiguous.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

So it's very obvious that some a plagarised work can't be detected at the initial point or stage due to know one is after the account then, and immediately the account joined a potential signature campaign a proper Plagiarism test will be carried and if eventually detected a plagarised article or work that  has be done for years the user will face panel of judges, so it's educative to isolate a copy and paste articles for reference purposes, and not to be ban, take precautions newbies especially.

When a post is written this badly (see snippet above), I just tune it out completely.  OP, even if I could completely understand what you're trying to say, what's your point?  What you've written looks very much like an attempt to earn merit.  Why?  The post is in Meta, where a great deal of merits circulate; it's about plagiarism, which seems to be a trending topic lately (though I don't know why, because it's nothing new); and you've taken a stance--I think--in line with pretty much every merit source and senior member who might have sMerits to give.

We don't need another thread about plagiarism.  Members are going to keep doing it, and they're going to become more clever about how they go about it.  There's nothing to do but report it when we see it.  Period.

[GeorgeJohn]

344 merit and 251 merit is from local friends. 3 topics to teach the plagiarism received merits from local friends too.

Sent 170 merit and 118 to local friends.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=GeorgeJohn

While are you taking issue that has been treated before so serious, this particular matter has been sorted out for long, even moderator deleted the post, I have to use my passed experience to encourage new one's, while you are busy forwarding the matter, if i may ask you is this thread you refresh a new thread, so you are using my thread to get credit,

See I don't want to have any encounter with any one, I believe you were the one that reported that thread before, I have noticed you have been attacking me in different ramifications since I joined forum, both of us were member when this happen, so what are we dragging that made you to be over inquisitive in account, mod has deleted the thread, so what actually is your plan over my account.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

344 merit and 251 merit is from local friends. 3 topics to teach the plagiarism received merits from local friends too.

Sent 170 merit and 118 to local friends.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=GeorgeJohn

While are you taking issue that has been treated before so serious, this particular matter has been sorted out for long, even moderator deleted the post, I have to use my passed experience to encourage new one's, while you are busy forwarding the matter, if i may ask you is this thread you refresh a new thread, so you are using my thread to get credit,

See I don't want to have any encounter with any one, I believe you were the one that reported that thread before, I have noticed you have been attacking me in different ramifications since I joined forum, both of us were member when this happen, so what are we dragging that made you to be over inquisitive in account, mod has deleted the thread, so what actually is your plan over my account.

Did you think you not plagiarized anything?
Did you think that a moderator handled this gave you a second chance means that you are innocent?
If I did not make that post, will you create your 4th, 5th, 10th topic about plagiarism?

I don't make that post to call a ban on you but just to say, your topics are non sense and you should stop it.

Moreover, look at your merit history. Full of exchanges and you can not deny it. If anyone look at your friends, they have full of exchanges too.

Your local farm create many non sense topics, replied with each other, compromised it to exchange merits. Stop it. It is what I mean. I don't care about a ban on your account, dude.

Why topic that is reported as plagiarism was deleted?

[Quickseller]

I would not ban him for this post, but would see it as multiple low effort posts. It is clear that what he wrote was not his original thought and that he got the specific information from a single source. This is not something that was inspired by a source. He made changes to the syntax of what was written.

[CryptocurencyKing]

To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

There shouldn't be any reason as all possible reasons had been eliminated. Before the introduction of copper membership, project wanting to make an announcement on the forum, buy account to do so since newbie account weren't given the privilege of posting images but now things has changed as with just few dollars you can bypass most of the newbie restrictions and make your announcement.

Of course, most persons buy account just for the sake of participating in bounties and signature campaigns. Knowing that ranks comes with certain benefits and as such, it has resulted to a lot of farmed accounts in the forum. Mostly grown in the local boards if you ask me as, one can neither tell completely what goes on there if you aren't from that locality. Even a Google translation won't give you a complete thought on the discussions.

Forum not to have made account buying a detestable rule, I suppose was due to the copper membership kind of buy and white listing or I should say an upgrade on a new account. Not farmed and sold accounts. Perhaps, there should be another name to classify buy a copper member and the actually account farming and sales. So one can be regarded as a detestable crime and when found wanting, the accounts would be punished with a forum rule. Just as it is done in cases of plagiarism.

[Gambit2s]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Bit off topic but i've always wanted to know.

[Pmalek]

im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Sometimes, it's obvious by just looking at it. The post seems too good when you check the post history of that particular user. A brilliant post in a history of incomprehensible, hard to understand, and mindless replies. Especially if it's obvious that the user doesn't speak English.

You can just google plagiarism checkers and use whatever you find in the results. Or, take a sentence or two out of a post and run it through a search engine to see if you get any hits. There are also paid and professional apps for finding plagiarized content, but I don't know of any by heart.   

[lovesmayfamilis]

Likely, this is not quite the topic in which to discuss all the subtleties of detecting plagiarism? Isn't it? If the user was not born yesterday on the Internet, finding this forum, he can easily find topics that were devoted to the search for plagiarism on the forum, and even more so on the World Wide Web.
I can say one thing, plagiarism can be seen, it beeps with red headlights, at the moment when I read that the user learned about bitcoin yesterday, and after three posts, we are already reading the complete guide to using cryptocurrency wallets.
Therefore, a little advice to all future plagiarists, try to match the image with which you started your journey on the forum. 

[ifarted]

Most newbies get banned because of plagiarism. Most users who commits plagiarisms are very lazy to construct their own words instead they copied and post it as if they own it. They just want shortcuts through success. That's why they got banned.

Some are having a hard time learning about bitcoin because they find it difficult to understand and i don't blame them but every problems has its own solutions. Why not make a thread and ask others whom are your seniors about their opinion and knowledge to guide you. It is very simple and much safer for you to avoid getting banned.

[GeorgeJohn]

Most newbies get banned because of plagiarism. Most users who commits plagiarisms are very lazy to construct their own words instead they copied and post it as if they own it. They just want shortcuts through success. That's why they got banned.

Some are having a hard time learning about bitcoin because they find it difficult to understand and i don't blame them but every problems has its own solutions. Why not make a thread and ask others whom are your seniors about their opinion and knowledge to guide you. It is very simple and much safer for you to avoid getting banned.

I will say some of is ignorant of that, because i believe that some of the plagarism is unintentional and that should be the reason some of queue to commit the same crime, and it's basically known that if you are not informed you are basically deformed, one thing is that newbies don't observe very well before creating topics, and some factors that lead them into this, is because of ranking up that will enable them to join signature campaign, i can't blame shall, but at least since the system has be porous enough. I think they will withdraw from the commitment a little bit.

[UmerIdrees]

Newbies It will be very heart breaking and discouraging to build an account into a good rank and having joined in a good campaign get banned for plagiarism that you commited at the early stages of your account.

There must be very few such cases. The point is that if a person has an habit of plagiarism and he got un-noticed, he or she will continue the plagiarism and will be caught eventually.  Its hard to believe that anyone who do plagiarism initially one or twice, stopped doing it later.  If he know that plagiarism is not allowed and will ban his account, why would he do in the first place. plagiarism is mostly done by those who are unable to write good posts themselves.

[lovesmayfamilis]

There must be very few such cases. The point is that if a person has an habit of plagiarism and he got un-noticed, he or she will continue the plagiarism and will be caught eventually.  Its hard to believe that anyone who do plagiarism initially one or twice, stopped doing it later.  If he know that plagiarism is not allowed and will ban his account, why would he do in the first place. plagiarism is mostly done by those who are unable to write good posts themselves.

You hit the mark with your judgments. This is exactly what happens. This is human psychology. If a person has committed plagiarism once, then either he is not aware that plagiarism is not permissible, or he hopes to hide it and remain unnoticed.
This is exactly what happened two days ago. I saw that the senior member had committed plagiarism. Then I went through his posts and found another 3. I didn’t look anymore, since this amount is quite enough to assure the moderators that plagiarism is not accidental.
His account was banned.
And what happens the next morning? The owner of the banned account raises his second account and registers with the company in which he wrote his first account. Judging by his writing style, some points are very similar, so there is no doubt that the second account belongs to him as well.
I checked his posts too. And I was not even surprised, as there was a lot of plagiarism on the second account.
Therefore, it should not always be assumed that plagiarism is an accidental act, it is not at all the case.

[GeorgeJohn]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Bit off topic but i've always wanted to know.

I think you should ask lovesmayfamilis and loyceV to explain to you how to carry on a plagarism test to any account, many user does it, but with personal message communication i think they will give you a better information concerning detecting plagarism test.

[Upgrade00]

<snip>

One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text, this would create a search for the exact text and not related ones which search engines normally use. This is good for exposing copy pastes, but would not exactly work for word spinners and paraphrases

There are also some plagiarism tools which can show the percentage of plagiarism in a text, but I've personally not used any of them.

[GeorgeJohn]

<snip>

One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text, this would create a search for the exact text and not related ones which search engines normally use. This is good for exposing copy pastes, but would not exactly work for word spinners and paraphrases

There are also some plagiarism tool, but I've personally not used any of them.

Thanks you for the way out for the ideology to run a plagarism test, the knowledge you impact on me, to be sincere i have not done that before and i will practice it in order to check what will be the outcome, I'm glad for this knowledge, on my own i taught we have a specific data use to carry out the test of plagarism. But since you have explained it to my liking i will definitely carry on the practical example.

[lovesmayfamilis]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it ?

Bit off topic but i've always wanted to know.

I think you should ask lovesmayfamilis and loyceV to explain to you how to carry on a plagarism test to any account, many user does it, but with personal message communication i think they will give you a better information concerning detecting plagarism test.

You missed my answer just above. I have already spoken about my vision of how to tell newbies all the ways to recognize plagiarism. It's rather strange to me that a beginner is interested in how we detect plagiarism. As a skeptic, I begin to suspect that his interest is not accidental. Moreover, all the information is on the forum in the public domain, you just have to search a little.
 And yes, one more thing, you missed the rule about unsolicited private messages. I'm not sure if I want to waste time and generally talk with an account unknown to me in my personal account.

[LoyceV]

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ?

I think you should ask lovesmayfamilis and loyceV to explain to you how to carry on a plagarism test to any account

I usually just Google it:

One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text

Plagiarism is often quite obvious: if a bounty spammer suddenly created a long post, that's a red flag. Or if someone earned all his Merit only from one post.
Sometimes it's easy to detect, but when they use a word spinner it becomes much more difficult (and more satisfying to catch them).

[Poker Player]

I usually just Google it:

I have caught plagiarism a few times, and at first I used google but at some point I started using free versions of plagarism checker that you can find on the web. I don't know if there is much of a difference.

[tranthidung]

I have caught plagiarism a few times, and at first I used google but at some point I started using free versions of plagiarism checker that you can find on the web. I don't know if there is much of a difference.

Google gives you raw result and you can only estimate the percent of plagiarism between original and plagiarized post.

With plagiarism checkers, you can have that percentage as well as highlight. Google can be the first step, if I don't find anything, I stop. If I find something, I will use plagiarism checker as the next step

• https://www.grammarly.com/plagiarism-checker
• https://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/

[Rikafip]

I usually just Google it:

Same thing here. I tried several different tools, but in the end I just stick to the simple Google search that proved to be the most effective way and more than in enough in 99.99% of the cases.

Google gives you raw result and you can only estimate the percent of plagiarism between original and plagiarized post.

I might be wrong here, but I don't think  that percentage of the plagiarized material makes any difference when it comes to deciding whether someone will get banned or not. At least I haven't noticed any difference.

[lovesmayfamilis]

<snip>

One way to search for plagiarism is to run a part of the text through Google search engine for matches. You can customize your search by adding quotes to the text, this would create a search for the exact text and not related ones which search engines normally use. This is good for exposing copy pastes, but would not exactly work for word spinners and paraphrases

There are also some plagiarism tool, but I've personally not used any of them.

Thanks you for the way out for the ideology to run a plagarism test, the knowledge you impact on me, to be sincere i have not done that before and i will practice it in order to check what will be the outcome, I'm glad for this knowledge, on my own i taught we have a specific data use to carry out the test of plagarism. But since you have explained it to my liking i will definitely carry on the practical example.

I can also suggest that you try the more thorough search that Google can do. To do this, not only quotes are used, but also other symbols and operators.

What Google search operators are and how to use them

[Igebotz]

I might be wrong here, but I don't think  that percentage of the plagiarized material makes any difference when it comes to deciding whether someone will get banned or not. At least I haven't noticed any difference.

In academic works or projects, 5% plagiarism is permissible; anything above 5% is considered plagiarism and is not accepted; however, there are no standards on the forum to determine what percentage of plagiarism is acceptable or not; yet, the majority
y of plagiarism cases are 50% or more.

While we are at the topic of plagiarism..im a bit curious what kind of tool/website do you guys use to detect it ? or do you guys just recognize a plagiarised  content just by looking at it?

It's easy to detect a plagiarized post merely  looking at it but most of the time I use a tool to be 100% sure before reporting.

[philipma1957]

I am surprised to know from you that account selling is not against the forum rules. Can you please give me a link to any thread or rule that states thus?.

AFAIk, its not allowed to sale or purchase bitcointalk.org account. Count me in for people looking for reference where it says "its allowed".

On forum rules number 18 said account sales are allowed, but discouraged. What does discouraged mean? to let know members who trust user A isn't controlled by A person anymore, which is you can gave negative trust to the account if you didn't trust him again or you could gave neutral trust as for your own notes.
To be honest I don't see any reason why someone need to buy an account except participating in Bounties or Signature campaign, any opinions?

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

You are referring to OP, I understand. I would like you to clarify this. Are you saying we have another pokapoka124 case? In the archived link I can't see any evidence of plagiarism, and if so it should have been reported.

Read @DdmrDdmr replies below the thread.

@DdmrDdmr post provide a link to buy Bitcoin in ATMs

By the way, the so called instructions are very similar to those found here: https://coinatmradar.com/blog/how-to-buy-bitcoins-with-bitcoin-atm/

San-Diego based company Genesis Coin produces three types of ATMs: Genesis1 (two-way), Satoshi1 (one-way) and Satoshi2 (two-way). The process of purchasing bitcoins may have a verification procedure, in this case:
•   Click “Buy Bitcoins”
•   Provide mobile number
•   Enter received validation code
•   Scan fingerprint
•   Select coin (this type of machine may support not only Bitcoin, but also Litecoin, Dogecoin, Blackcoin, XCurrency)
•   Choose to scan wallet (pre-defined) or generate new
•   Scan wallet QR code if chosen
•   Insert cash bills
•   Click send
•   Get printed receipt

@GeorgeJohn thread

-step1: just click on " buy Btc"

-step2: click  " input your mobile number "

-step3: enter your received validation code.

-step4: scam your thumb in the machines, for security purpose.

-step5: select your crptocurrency you need, example: LTC, ETH, BTC or any of the coin you choose to buy.

-step6: select your scam wallet.

-step7: select scam wallet code.

Step8: input cash bill.

-step9: click send.

-step10: wait for transaction to process.

Close isn't? what is scam wallet lol, this is proof @GeorgeJohn direct copy paste an article.

Buying accounts in 2012,2013,2014 were commonly done. Mostly to do signature  campaigns.  A lot of people do not understand what is was like in those years.

In 2012 BTC was as low as 6 bucks

big ripoffs of coins happened a lot.

blocks wer 50 coins not 6.25

It was not a big deal to buy an account.

and Plagiarism was less enforced back then.

The industry changed ie 6 usd coins are now 58000 usd.

No one was sure about btc survival.

Frankly I would prefer a 5 year look back for plagiarism to be in effect.

Ie no bans for any work from 2009-2016.  You could give a -trust for it, but no bans.

From 2017 on bans should occur. People know better by then.

[LoyceV]

In academic works or projects, 5% plagiarism is permissible; anything above 5% is considered plagiarism and is not accepted

I've never heard of that 5% rule. If you write an article about Bitcoin mining, chances are at least 5% of the words are also used by someone else who write an article about Bitcoin mining. And that's fine.
But if you write 10 pages and copy half a page from someone else, that's not good.

[Igebotz]

In academic works or projects, 5% plagiarism is permissible; anything above 5% is considered plagiarism and is not accepted

I've never heard of that 5% rule. If you write an article about Bitcoin mining, chances are at least 5% of the words are also used by someone else who write an article about Bitcoin mining. And that's fine.
But if you write 10 pages and copy half a page from someone else, that's not good.

I'm not sure, but I believe the 5% rule applies to all academic journals globally because there's a 100% possibility you'll have to cite or copy a few lines from someone else's work without even realizing it, as you said it happens on a regular basis. No academic publication or paper can pass a plagiarism test with a score of 0%.

Academic work is continued work + added value.

[Habibul08]

As a newbie in this forum of course it will be very difficult for me to post quality things without reading a lot and increasing knowledge. Without the two things above, it is very possible for us to be involved in plagiarism, whether detected or not.

Of course this is very detrimental and also never recommended even though basically we just want to contribute. I've heard a lot of advice on how to do it well, but I know it's hard, but I'm sure it will pay off and eventually we can feel that it will never be in vain.

[lovesmayfamilis]

As a newbie in this forum of course it will be very difficult for me to post quality things without reading a lot and increasing knowledge. Without the two things above, it is very possible for us to be involved in plagiarism, whether detected or not.

If, when writing your post, you do not look at an outside page, but use your thoughts, no one will ever accuse you of plagiarism. There can be practically no such coincidences, when a person memorizes the text in full, including the entire word order.
But you also need to understand that to paraphrase someone else's text read on the Internet, if you stick to it, it will be safer for you to add a link to the site from which you read and decided to share your thoughts.

[DdmrDdmr]

As a newbie in this forum of course it will be very difficult for me to post quality things without reading a lot and increasing knowledge. Without the two things above, it is very possible for us to be involved in plagiarism, whether detected or not. <…>

Not if you read and digest the information, and they lay it out in your own words. If you feel compelled to copy parts of what you read (i.e. lists, parts that are really well expressed as they are), it might be best to place those as a quoted text, so that people can see that straight away.

The idea is not that you can’t base your post on what’s already out there, but rather not to just simply copy/paste it here (even if including the link will get you off the hook), nor deliberately just alter a few words to make it look like it’s yours.

[LoyceV]

I believe the 5% rule applies to all academic journals globally because there's a 100% possibility you'll have to cite or copy a few lines from someone else's work

Nothing wrong with that, as long as you add it to your long list of references.

without even realizing it

That's not possible. You'll know when you copy something.

No academic publication or paper can pass a plagiarism test with a score of 0%.

If you're talking about an automated plagiarism checker, then sure, they'll always find something. But that doesn't mean it's really plagiarism.

As a test, I ran everything I typed above through the first plagiarism checker I found (Grammarly). It shows: "Significant plagiarism found", which is BS.

Academic work is continued work + added value.

And references You can't continue or add value without making it verifiable.

[GeorgeJohn]

In academic works or projects, 5% plagiarism is permissible; anything above 5% is considered plagiarism and is not accepted

I've never heard of that 5% rule. If you write an article about Bitcoin mining, chances are at least 5% of the words are also used by someone else who write an article about Bitcoin mining. And that's fine.
But if you write 10 pages and copy half a page from someone else, that's not good.

I want to really understand something here, are you saying that someone who is writing an article about bitcoin mining and draft out like half of the article by itself and the completion of the work happened to be four lines stanza from someone's work that has be done initial or previously without adding the reference source, is not a plagarism? We are here to learn.

[_BlackStar]

How much time can each guilty user ^[plagiarism] be given before being reported to a moderator?

I got someone doing paraphrasing plagiarism yesterday but didn't report it because just wanted to give him a chance to correct the post with the source link. If there wasn't a time limit, maybe someone could still reason that they forgot to attach the source even though the logic doesn't make sense, imo.

[suzanne5223]

In academic works or projects, 5% plagiarism is permissible; anything above 5% is considered plagiarism and is not accepted

I've never heard of that 5% rule. If you write an article about Bitcoin mining, chances are at least 5% of the words are also used by someone else who write an article about Bitcoin mining. And that's fine.
But if you write 10 pages and copy half a page from someone else, that's not good.

I want to really understand something here, are you saying that someone who is writing an article about bitcoin mining and draft out like half of the article by itself and the completion of the work happened to be four lines stanza from someone's work that has be done initial or previously without adding the reference source, is not a plagarism? We are here to learn.

I believe what he's saying that's if someone writes an article which she drafts out 50% and copy 50% from someone else it's still plagiarism, which totally makes sense.
In this situation what I do is copy and someone else article as a tip to write my own sentence which I believe will save the writer from plagiarism.

[Igebotz]

without even realizing it

That's not possible. You'll know when you copy something.

If I were to write about Bitcoin mining, as you suggested, there is a good chance that my own words will match those of someone else who has previously written about mining, and if the content were put through a plagiarism test, it would come back as copied, but you would know you wrote it from your head, which is what I meant by plagiarism without realizing.

[Academic work is continued work + added value.

And references You can't continue or add value without making it verifiable.

Yeah in science methodology must be shown - if it's something you invented yourself but if it's something you added value to then the existed work must be cited first for reference purpose.

I want to really understand something here, are you saying that someone who is writing an article about bitcoin mining and draft out like half of the article by itself and the completion of the work happened to be four lines stanza from someone's work that has be done initial or previously without adding the reference source, is not a plagarism? We are here to learn.

four stanzas? Without seeing at your material, I'm not sure my personal words can match four stanza of your words. It is feasible to write a one-line phrase, but not four stanza. That is plagiarism!

How much time can each guilty user ^[plagiarism] be given before being reported to a moderator?

There is no time limit. If you believe it is deliberate plagiarism, you should report it; however, if you believe the user forgot out of stupidity to include reference links, a simple PM can remedy the situation.

[GeorgeJohn]

There is no time limit. If you believe it is deliberate plagiarism, you should report it; however, if you believe the user forgot out of stupidity to include reference links, a simple PM can remedy the situation.

That means is not sure before taking decision and is under assumptions, because i think some people don't fall the victim of plagarism intensionally, except it's the person method of life is to mimic someone kind of research, i think the best is to pm the user base on the rank, and if happened to be old user it's very obvious that such Skip the memory and it deserve to be corrected through private information or communication, so if the user refused to accept it's mistake within some hours, the function to report to the mod can be carried out without hesitation and that indicates intensionally Plagiarism instead of unintentional mistake.

[Igebotz]

A user who copied a few lines into 95% of his own words and forgot to reference the few lines he copied is not the same as someone who wrote a wall of copied text; both are plagiarism, but I would personally PM the first user and tell him to properly cite his work for the sake of the 5% plagiarism rule then report the other user for plagiarism.

There is no time limit. If you believe it is deliberate plagiarism, you should report it; however, if you believe the user forgot out of stupidity to include reference links, a simple PM can remedy the situation.

That means is not sure before taking decision and is under assumptions, because i think some people don't fall the victim of plagarism intensionally, except it's the person method of life is to mimic someone kind of research, i think the best is to pm the user base on the rank, and if happened to be old user it's very obvious that such Skip the memory and it deserve to be corrected through private information or communication, so if the user refused to accept it's mistake within some hours, the function to report to the mod can be carried out without hesitation and that indicates intensionally Plagiarism instead of unintentional mistake.

[Mpamaegbu]

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

The statement that something is allowed and at same time discouraged is somewhat ambiguous.

My dear, it's really the height of a hidden paradox. Frankly, I have tried to wrap my head around that part too of something being allowed but then discouraged and it keeps beating me hallow. To put it mildly, it doesn't make sense to me. Could that be that it's either I've a minimal grasp of English idioms or I simply don't understand basic English language 🤔. Maybe it's about time theymos reviewed that rule so we could understand it better. I guess it was made at a time when there was skeletal traffic here and the forum needed to coax posters to stay active but the rhythm has obviously changed now and it should call for a change of parade too.

[lovesmayfamilis]

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

The statement that something is allowed and at same time discouraged is somewhat ambiguous.

My dear, it's really the height of a hidden paradox. Frankly, I have tried to wrap my head around that part too of something being allowed but then discouraged and it keeps beating me hallow. To put it mildly, it doesn't make sense to me. Could that be that it's either I've a minimal grasp of English idioms or I simply don't understand basic English language 🤔. Maybe it's about time theymos reviewed that rule so we could understand it better. I guess it was made at a time when there was skeletal traffic here and the forum needed to coax posters to stay active but the rhythm has obviously changed now and it should call for a change of parade too.

I think everything is clear enough. The forum declares freedom. You can do whatever you want, but at the same time, you need to understand that this is unacceptable, and for some actions, there may be a response, such as a negative tag. But this is by no means an account ban. Therefore, anyone who wants to walk with a negative mark in their account can buy an account. Everything seems clear enough.

That means is not sure before taking decision and is under assumptions, because i think some people don't fall the victim of plagarism intensionally, except it's the person method of life is to mimic someone kind of research, i think the best is to pm the user base on the rank, and if happened to be old user it's very obvious that such Skip the memory and it deserve to be corrected through private information or communication, so if the user refused to accept it's mistake within some hours, the function to report to the mod can be carried out without hesitation and that indicates intensionally Plagiarism instead of unintentional mistake.

If you report plagiarism to the moderators, I can tell you from experience that mods are also very good at viewing the account you are filing a plagiarism complaint with. If this is an isolated case, then the account will not be banned. More examples may be needed to prohibit.
So there is no need to worry. Just let mods know, and the moderators will make the right conclusions themselves. Otherwise, in some cases, supposedly helping someone, you take the side of the one who is considered to be a violation of the rules. 

[Mpamaegbu]

~snipped~

I think everything is clear enough. The forum declares freedom. You can do whatever you want, but at the same time, you need to understand that this is unacceptable, and for some actions, there may be a response, such as a negative tag. But this is by no means an account ban. Therefore, anyone who wants to walk with a negative mark in their account can buy an account. Everything seems clear enough.

Well, at the risk of sounding like a broken record; that comment is still self contradictory. How do you allow something and then discourage it at the same time. Why not make it either acceptable or discourage it outrightly? I'm cocksure that rule will create a lot of problems for newbies who may not have come in contact with how derogatory account sales have been made to become here now. To the best of my knowledge, I still believe that's a grey area that should be addressed by @theymos (or who else is in charge here).

[LoyceV]

are you saying that someone who is writing an article about bitcoin mining and draft out like half of the article by itself and the completion of the work happened to be four lines stanza from someone's work that has be done initial or previously without adding the reference source, is not a plagarism?

I'm not sure what exactly you're asking, but it's quite simple: if you copy something, make sure the reader understands you took it from someone else.

How much time can each guilty user ^[plagiarism] be given before being reported to a moderator?

If you think it was a mistake, notify the user instead of reporting it.

I got someone doing paraphrasing plagiarism yesterday but didn't report it because just wanted to give him a chance to correct the post with the source link.

If you didn't tell them, I don't expect them to review yesterday's posts to fix it.

If there wasn't a time limit, maybe someone could still reason that they forgot to attach the source

I can already tell you that's the case if you find plagiarism in any of my posts, even if I posted it years ago.

something being allowed but then discouraged

It's allowed by the forum, but you might receive negative feedback. Kinda the same as scamming, that's allowed even though many users disapprove.

How do you allow something and then discourage it at the same time. Why not make it either acceptable or discourage it outrightly?

Allow me:

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

This rule has no meaning! If it would be removed, nothing would change because anything that isn't in the rules is allowed. The "discouraging" comes from users, not from Mods. So I consider it a clarification and warning instead of a rule.

[UserU]

This rule has no meaning! If it would be removed, nothing would change because anything that isn't in the rules is allowed. The "discouraging" comes from users, not from Mods. So I consider it a clarification and warning instead of a rule.

Agree, I feel its more or less caveat emptor. Not like those involved would be banned anyway.

[GeorgeJohn]

As a newbie in this forum of course it will be very difficult for me to post quality things without reading a lot and increasing knowledge. Without the two things above, it is very possible for us to be involved in plagiarism, whether detected or not.

you can read from anywhere depending your research and understanding before putting it in writing for the community, but the major concern is that read and provide the source, and don't act as the original source while is already existing work done for period of time.

Of course this is very detrimental and also never recommended even though basically we just want to contribute. I've heard a lot of advice on how to do it well, but I know it's hard, but I'm sure it will pay off and eventually we can feel that it will never be in vain.

It's obvious that to secure knowledge or master a specific something it will surely undergoes strees and other difficult things to make it to come to reality, nothing comes so easily, it's hard work that makes impossibility to become possible.