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September 24, 2021, 03:34:22 AM
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Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.
At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

I'm currently experiencing the same thing, but with the risk involved, I decided to switch to another site and let a few small dollars sink in there. I initially tried to use a VPN and it wasn't good at all just because for the sake of playing there I broke the rules. I realized that at that time I was just trying to be as effective as playing at Betfair. Now I am more concerned about security in the future and enter a gambling site that allows our country to gamble.
If that is related to our country's rule, maybe it will be okay for now, but not sure in the future because the government can change their rule easily and the casino will change the rule too. Sometimes I use VPN and so far, I do not have a problem because I do not gamble for money. If I break the rule incidentally, I only use small money on the site so if that money is lost, and I do not mind. Talking about security, we need to protect the account, especially when we have some balance.

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September 24, 2021, 09:10:42 PM
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Exactly, OP should've done that one a long time ago or at the least made some sort of compromise to move to other casinos to play, being obsessed with only one seems unhealthy to me if you ask me, you're banned OP so why not just move to another site?
It's up to op now if staying on the same platform or find another platform that is trusted, reputable and same as what op want to gamble. I wouldn't want to use betfair if your country is not allowed to gamble in the platform as when you win big time if ever you got in with/without using VPN then withdrawal won't ever happen. In other words, you just gambled illegally if you call it that way.
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September 28, 2021, 10:20:46 PM
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Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.
At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.
This is pointless, no casino website is going to accept that a user that lives in a country on their restricted list uses their services from the very same country while using a VPN to mask where they are, this goes against the TOS of most casinos, and even if they do not have it included yet the moment you ask something like this they will add it as it is illogical for them to allow this when they will probably suffer penalties because of this that are greater than any money the gambler could bring.

So while I understand why being restricted by betfair can be troublesome at the same time the only options are to find another website where to make our bets or move to another country, something that is too extreme for something that is supposed to be our hobby.
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September 28, 2021, 10:26:56 PM
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Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.
At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.
This is pointless, no casino website is going to accept that a user that lives in a country on their restricted list uses their services from the very same country while using a VPN to mask where they are, this goes against the TOS of most casinos, and even if they do not have it included yet the moment you ask something like this they will add it as it is illogical for them to allow this when they will probably suffer penalties because of this that are greater than any money the gambler could bring.

So while I understand why being restricted by betfair can be troublesome at the same time the only options are to find another website where to make our bets or move to another country, something that is too extreme for something that is supposed to be our hobby.
It is just way too extreme or too desperate but if you do have the money to move then why not? Most of the time people will consider out on connecting through VPN instead of moving into other places
just for the sake of access.

Its understandable that some sites do really need to impose those restrictions due to regulation concern which had been set.For some cases its truly inevitable that there are users
who came from restricted countries would really be having some access.

There are still lots of options though if you are really looking for some entertainment.

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September 29, 2021, 04:29:53 AM
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Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

I thought of this but I guess the OP might have tried it and it didn't work out. I had my VPN on recently and I logged in to a gambling site just to see that they blocked me from logging in, asking me to turn off the VPN. So, depending on the sensitivity of betfair, it may not work for him. But even if it does, a better suggestion is for OP to contact them officially and make enquiries as to what happened.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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September 29, 2021, 10:52:49 AM
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Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

I thought of this but I guess the OP might have tried it and it didn't work out. I had my VPN on recently and I logged in to a gambling site just to see that they blocked me from logging in, asking me to turn off the VPN. So, depending on the sensitivity of betfair, it may not work for him. But even if it does, a better suggestion is for OP to contact them officially and make enquiries as to what happened.
Because VPN are shit for using BetFair and other good bookmakers or exchange. If you want play on it find good Proxy, now is many providers of that, a little bit expensive than VPM but works nice. Or the best option when whos playing on phone is sim card.


If you want Betfair, you can looking my thread when I sold this account.

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September 29, 2021, 08:41:12 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

I think that it is a lot harder than you think to set up a gambling platform.

All the regulations etc. make it a complete headache.

So no, there isn't a 1:1 copy of Betfair that is available but you can get close to that if you use something like fairlay? But of course nowhere near the liquidity of Betfair.

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September 29, 2021, 08:55:11 PM
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You can always use VPN to access the site but the problem is that, you might be kicked out if Betfair ever notice you and your account might get ban. Maybe you can try other gambling sites like Betfair to make your bettings that will allow access from your country. They will llways know when you use VPN but might decide to leave you for a while before banning your account which is risky.

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September 30, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
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You can always use VPN to access the site but the problem is that, you might be kicked out if Betfair ever notice you and your account might get ban. Maybe you can try other gambling sites like Betfair to make your bettings that will allow access from your country. They will llways know when you use VPN but might decide to leave you for a while before banning your account which is risky.
I said again, VPN are shit for using BetFair and other good bookmakers or exchange. If you want play on it find good Proxy, now is many providers of that, a little bit expensive than VPM but works nice. Or the best option when whos playing on phone is sim card.

I'm playing on 2 different countries without problem, but I have good proxy and 2 different devices.
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September 30, 2021, 02:37:20 PM
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You can always use VPN to access the site but the problem is that, you might be kicked out if Betfair ever notice you and your account might get ban. Maybe you can try other gambling sites like Betfair to make your bettings that will allow access from your country. They will llways know when you use VPN but might decide to leave you for a while before banning your account which is risky.
I said again, VPN are shit for using BetFair and other good bookmakers or exchange. If you want play on it find good Proxy, now is many providers of that, a little bit expensive than VPM but works nice. Or the best option when whos playing on phone is sim card.

I'm playing on 2 different countries without problem, but I have good proxy and 2 different devices.

What does proxy or vpn help?

If you are from a banned country and cannot prove your residential address is NOT in the banned country (prove with documents and/or even receiving a phone call on a land line in the country) then your access to the exchange stays blocked.

Betfair has strict KYC so I dont know why the discussion here must be 3 sites long.

VPN is 0 ( ZERO ) help accessing betfair. I know that from personal experience.
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September 30, 2021, 02:52:30 PM
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Why not try to use another platform where using vpn is not restricted and you can withdraw your funds without going through KYC or maybe depends on the site. If you continue using the same platform but you will need VPN to gamble and once you win, you can never get your money since where you from is restricted in their platform. Letting you gamble withoit doing something could get them in trouble.
Exactly, OP should've done that one a long time ago or at the least made some sort of compromise to move to other casinos to play, being obsessed with only one seems unhealthy to me if you ask me, you're banned OP so why not just move to another site?
I don't think using VPN without asking their support or any related staffs of Betfair is a good idea. Most casinos do not want their users to use VPN without them being informed about it. I also use VPN on almost every casino that I'm playing, however my case is they know that I am using it because I asked them if it is okay to use VPN.
Yeah it's a nice choice just to move to other casino, but it seems that he like Betfair much, and has very low trust on other casinos.

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September 30, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
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If you are from a banned country and cannot prove your residential address is NOT in the banned country (prove with documents and/or even receiving a phone call on a land line in the country) then your access to the exchange stays blocked.

Betfair has strict KYC so I dont know why the discussion here must be 3 sites long.

VPN is 0 ( ZERO ) help accessing betfair. I know that from personal experience.
This. Every gambling users should be responsible to read their terms, if the country is banned by the site, then you should not force to use them coz it will only create a big problem in the future when the site required personal information for kyc verification.

There are lots of users here posting sh*ts and complaining when this scenario happens to them (accessing the site even their place/country is banned from using the site) probably when they're trying to withdraw the funds.
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October 02, 2021, 01:16:50 PM
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If you are from a banned country and cannot prove your residential address is NOT in the banned country (prove with documents and/or even receiving a phone call on a land line in the country) then your access to the exchange stays blocked.

Betfair has strict KYC so I dont know why the discussion here must be 3 sites long.

VPN is 0 ( ZERO ) help accessing betfair. I know that from personal experience.
This. Every gambling users should be responsible to read their terms, if the country is banned by the site, then you should not force to use them coz it will only create a big problem in the future when the site required personal information for kyc verification.

There are lots of users here posting sh*ts and complaining when this scenario happens to them (accessing the site even their place/country is banned from using the site) probably when they're trying to withdraw the funds.

Trying to withdraw the funds and forgot to read their ToS, the common prob of gamblers. Because most casinos will just accept any user even if they are included in the banned list. Only few casinos will not let you in if you are from prohibited countries. So if you don't want your hard-earned money to get wasted, better start reading the ToS of every casino you want to play with. It is not the fault of the casino if you violated their terms and your account is frozen. And you will cry scam. Not fair also for them.
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October 02, 2021, 06:48:29 PM
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Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.
At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.
Don't you think this is unacceptable and the gambling platform would not want to put there self into trouble when they have already specify there restriction from countries they think do not accept there activities. Writing them is just like you want to pull there legs when restriction had already been placed.
This option is absurd and would not be accepted so there is no need of asking.

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October 04, 2021, 06:58:55 AM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.
I know that mixercasino dot com is not region blocked or geo-fenced. They accept BTC, ETH and 0xMR tokens and include a free privacy mixer. I think LNOcasino club isn't region blocked either and they support a large variety of cryptos.
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October 05, 2021, 10:48:42 PM
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You can always use VPN to access the site but the problem is that, you might be kicked out if Betfair ever notice you and your account might get ban. Maybe you can try other gambling sites like Betfair to make your bettings that will allow access from your country. They will llways know when you use VPN but might decide to leave you for a while before banning your account which is risky.
I said again, VPN are shit for using BetFair and other good bookmakers or exchange. If you want play on it find good Proxy, now is many providers of that, a little bit expensive than VPM but works nice. Or the best option when whos playing on phone is sim card.

I'm playing on 2 different countries without problem, but I have good proxy and 2 different devices.

What does proxy or vpn help?

If you are from a banned country and cannot prove your residential address is NOT in the banned country (prove with documents and/or even receiving a phone call on a land line in the country) then your access to the exchange stays blocked.

Betfair has strict KYC so I dont know why the discussion here must be 3 sites long.

VPN is 0 ( ZERO ) help accessing betfair. I know that from personal experience.
Exactly, even if a person could get around the geographical restrictions imposed by a website, in this case betfair, what is going to happen when they have to verify their identity?

Are they going to fake that too? Because I am pretty sure that is a crime almost everywhere, and even then how do they get their money? Simply put it is better to avoid all that trouble, and if the casino that you want to use does have a restriction that does not let you play then just find another casino and be done with it.
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November 27, 2021, 12:12:08 PM
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Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

While VPN is a useful thing to access casino websites because of imposed restrictions, I don't think using VPN is a good idea. Websites have their own terms and conditions and most of the time, casino sites don't really permit the usage of VPN. I suggest you read everything that is written in the terms of service of the site before doing anything to assure that you won't be get in trouble later on. If using a VPN isn't counted as an illegal activity, then you can browse for different options of VPNs that would suit your preferences. Otherwise, just don't try it because you might get caught and be punished and fined because some countries have laws regarding that matter.

If a trouble continue to persists, then you better just move on and find another casino that would cater your needs. You see, there are some problems that casinos encounter and most of the time their resolution is to impose banning so that their company's welfare won't be compromised with the protocols set by the state.
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Here in forum one solutions seems nice, but has same problems at the moment. maybe in future they will improve (exbet.io)
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Many gamblers aren't familiar with this gambling category yet or don't see a benefit in leaving the bookmaker to bet person to person, and that may represent a big obstacle when trying to increase liquidity on such platforms. Anyway I appreciate their effort in trying to bring betting exchanges to crypto universe.

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December 01, 2021, 03:46:03 PM
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Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

I think that if you are going to use the platform through VPN and you want to spend time and fun with it, I recommend that you write to support, raise your case to see if they can make any exceptions, maybe they can make a special case with you if you intend to stay on the site, it can guarantee you some benefits or maybe not, but it is necessary to speak, on some occasions I have had to make such requests, and some have made exceptions, on other sites not, it all depends on their policies and to what extent they can be permissive.

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December 01, 2021, 04:18:38 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

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