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September 26, 2021, 09:05:36 AM
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Nonito Donaire facing Gaballo , Casimero facing Butler...

Meaning none of Filipino Boxer facing Inoue this year or the next? i though the fight will circle about them three but this seems to be in different  direction.



I don't see Butler be a big threat to Casimero, and nor is Graballo to Donaire, the three Inoue, Casimero and Donaire are the elite in their division I see them disposing of their respective opponents, if the two successfully defended their crown, the boxing organization should not ignore the clamor of the boxing community, we want Inoue - Casimero or Casimero - Donaire, I hope nothing unexpected to happen like an upset.
Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 But then still we will find the result after the fight.
but of course I will be aiming for Casimero to win because i wan't him to face Inoue very soon .









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September 26, 2021, 09:17:24 AM
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Nonito Donaire facing Gaballo , Casimero facing Butler...

Meaning none of Filipino Boxer facing Inoue this year or the next? i though the fight will circle about them three but this seems to be in different  direction.



I don't see Butler be a big threat to Casimero, and nor is Graballo to Donaire, the three Inoue, Casimero and Donaire are the elite in their division I see them disposing of their respective opponents, if the two successfully defended their crown, the boxing organization should not ignore the clamor of the boxing community, we want Inoue - Casimero or Casimero - Donaire, I hope nothing unexpected to happen like an upset.
Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 But then still we will find the result after the fight.
but of course I will be aiming for Casimero to win because i wan't him to face Inoue very soon .
Cant blame out people on why they are really that in main talks because of the hype and interest neither Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue etc.. For now they would need to face up those opponents

that had been set out for them to fight.We dont even know on whose the opponent next after this one thats why im not really expecting that much that it would be push through after this.

For now they shouldnt really be that confident against with their opponents because upsets could really happen.

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September 26, 2021, 11:16:40 AM
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Nonito Donaire facing Gaballo , Casimero facing Butler...

Meaning none of Filipino Boxer facing Inoue this year or the next? i though the fight will circle about them three but this seems to be in different  direction.



I don't see Butler be a big threat to Casimero, and nor is Graballo to Donaire, the three Inoue, Casimero and Donaire are the elite in their division I see them disposing of their respective opponents, if the two successfully defended their crown, the boxing organization should not ignore the clamor of the boxing community, we want Inoue - Casimero or Casimero - Donaire, I hope nothing unexpected to happen like an upset.
Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 But then still we will find the result after the fight.
but of course I will be aiming for Casimero to win because i wan't him to face Inoue very soon .
Cant blame out people on why they are really that in main talks because of the hype and interest neither Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue etc.. For now they would need to face up those opponents

that had been set out for them to fight.We dont even know on whose the opponent next after this one thats why im not really expecting that much that it would be push through after this.

For now they shouldnt really be that confident against with their opponents because upsets could really happen.

We were expecting a big fight of the 3 champions in the bantamweight division, but this happened. Moving on is very important, let's face the reality now that we will not see a big fight involving Inoue against either the two Flipino champions anytime soon, the defending champions have to defend their title first against their mandatory challenger, and after this fight, maybe we can start talking about Inoue again.



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September 26, 2021, 01:52:31 PM
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Cant blame out people on why they are really that in main talks because of the hype and interest neither Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue etc.. For now they would need to face up those opponents

that had been set out for them to fight.We dont even know on whose the opponent next after this one thats why im not really expecting that much that it would be push through after this.

For now they shouldnt really be that confident against with their opponents because upsets could really happen.
For sure they are not, they still see this as challenging fight since it was ordered by the organization.

They need to comply with good preparation, even they didn't get the fight that they supposedly hoping to have before this year
end, but a fight still a fight and being professionals you need to keep doing your best.

Who knows, after this they'll be able to get a much better deal, right?
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September 26, 2021, 09:14:57 PM
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Cant blame out people on why they are really that in main talks because of the hype and interest neither Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue etc.. For now they would need to face up those opponents

that had been set out for them to fight.We dont even know on whose the opponent next after this one thats why im not really expecting that much that it would be push through after this.

For now they shouldnt really be that confident against with their opponents because upsets could really happen.
For sure they are not, they still see this as challenging fight since it was ordered by the organization.

They need to comply with good preparation, even they didn't get the fight that they supposedly hoping to have before this year
end, but a fight still a fight and being professionals you need to keep doing your best.

Who knows, after this they'll be able to get a much better deal, right?


Gaballo will get a better deal if he upset Donaire the champion here. But if Donaire wins, there's nothing that would change because people are expecting that he will beat his challenger and Donaire will then focus on his main goal which is to fight Inoue. Most probably if we will see Inoue vs Donaire II next year, we might also see Inoue vs Casimero if Inoue will again succeed against Donaire.

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September 26, 2021, 10:14:08 PM
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Gaballo will get a better deal if he upset Donaire the champion here. But if Donaire wins, there's nothing that would change because people are expecting that he will beat his challenger and Donaire will then focus on his main goal which is to fight Inoue. Most probably if we will see Inoue vs Donaire II next year, we might also see Inoue vs Casimero if Inoue will again succeed against Donaire.

I agree, this is just another hurdle for Donaire's quest for the unified belt and he should train hard and not take this for granted so that his plan of unifying the belts with Inoue or Casimero will materialize in the future.

For Gaballo, this is his ticket to fame and he would do everything to upset Donaire.

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September 26, 2021, 10:15:22 PM
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Cant blame out people on why they are really that in main talks because of the hype and interest neither Casimero vs Inoue or Donaire vs Inoue etc.. For now they would need to face up those opponents

that had been set out for them to fight.We dont even know on whose the opponent next after this one thats why im not really expecting that much that it would be push through after this.

For now they shouldnt really be that confident against with their opponents because upsets could really happen.
For sure they are not, they still see this as challenging fight since it was ordered by the organization.

They need to comply with good preparation, even they didn't get the fight that they supposedly hoping to have before this year
end, but a fight still a fight and being professionals you need to keep doing your best.

Who knows, after this they'll be able to get a much better deal, right?


They will get a much better deal if they can prove inside the ring that no matter who is their opponent, they can beat him.
Now, as we await what their respective results are, I believe, Inoue is just observing and preparing for what may possibly come to fruition with all the hypes.
We have been seeing upsets this year, so yes, they should not be contented with themselves and do what needs to be done to execute a great performance.
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September 26, 2021, 11:53:35 PM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.

It's already set but there's an issue that happened that leads Donaire to cancel the fight. I don't understand why some people here are upset about the assigned match to Casimero and Donaire. The fight is just hype here in the thread but overall, it's not. Donaire and Casimero just need to settle their respective match. Their fight will be arranged soon together with Inoue. That's for sure.
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September 27, 2021, 08:24:39 AM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.

It's already set but there's an issue that happened that leads Donaire to cancel the fight. I don't understand why some people here are upset about the assigned match to Casimero and Donaire. The fight is just hype here in the thread but overall, it's not. Donaire and Casimero just need to settle their respective match. Their fight will be arranged soon together with Inoue. That's for sure.

For sure, but some fans could not wait anymore because they got hype by the possible big fight that could be witnessed between Donaire and Inoue, a rematch actually. Turns out, we will have to wait for a little longer as Donaire has to take care of Gaballo first before he can proceed to his original plan.

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September 27, 2021, 08:57:22 AM
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Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 

I've checked both of Donaire's and Casimero's opponents and of the two Donaire will have a hard time figuring Graballo, he is young hungry, and undefeated, Donaire will dominate the early round and will try to knock him out just like he did to Oubaali, Graballo should pace the fight and do not be too aggressive it's the late-round where Donaire will expose his weakness, just like what happened on his match against Inoue.

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September 27, 2021, 12:14:01 PM
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Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 

I've checked both of Donaire's and Casimero's opponents and of the two Donaire will have a hard time figuring Graballo, he is young hungry, and undefeated, Donaire will dominate the early round and will try to knock him out just like he did to Oubaali, Graballo should pace the fight and do not be too aggressive it's the late-round where Donaire will expose his weakness, just like what happened on his match against Inoue.

It means that Donaire has all the tools to win against Gaballo even if the latter is young. Donaire will have too much experience for the young guy and he might be intimidated as well to fight Nonito. So I think Donaire will be too much, no disrespect to Gaballo, but they are not in the same league yet, he still need to get more fights at this level before he can pull an upset on Nonito.

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September 27, 2021, 12:39:28 PM
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Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 

I've checked both of Donaire's and Casimero's opponents and of the two Donaire will have a hard time figuring Graballo, he is young hungry, and undefeated, Donaire will dominate the early round and will try to knock him out just like he did to Oubaali, Graballo should pace the fight and do not be too aggressive it's the late-round where Donaire will expose his weakness, just like what happened on his match against Inoue.

It means that Donaire has all the tools to win against Gaballo even if the latter is young. Donaire will have too much experience for the young guy and he might be intimidated as well to fight Nonito. So I think Donaire will be too much, no disrespect to Gaballo, but they are not in the same league yet, he still need to get more fights at this level before he can pull an upset on Nonito.

Gaballo is an aggressive fighter, but knowing that Donaire is just looking for a good opportunity to throw his left hook, he might slow down and play more defense to ensure he would last. lol. . Donaire is getting older but he still has the power, it's a wise decision that he stay at the bantamweight and probably just retirem to be a champion in this division.

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September 27, 2021, 12:48:56 PM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.
There will a time for their match, it may be canceled now but were confident that they will face each other in a ring. The postponement is caused by what Casimero said in Donaires wife that causes thm some fight and turn to cancel the game. Soon when things over and they find peace there probably a time for them to fight again. This postponement will give them a chance to prepare more when they finally have their match again.
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September 27, 2021, 01:37:17 PM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.
There will a time for their match, it may be canceled now but were confident that they will face each other in a ring. The postponement is caused by what Casimero said in Donaires wife that causes thm some fight and turn to cancel the game. Soon when things over and they find peace there probably a time for them to fight again. This postponement will give them a chance to prepare more when they finally have their match again.
The organization has nothing to do on the cancellation of a fight between Donaire and Casimero, it was the move of Donaire to cancel the fight for personal reason, if they have fought and Donaire was not so sensitive with the trash talk, the fans might have seen a good fight this year.

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September 27, 2021, 01:57:05 PM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.
There will a time for their match, it may be canceled now but were confident that they will face each other in a ring. The postponement is caused by what Casimero said in Donaires wife that causes thm some fight and turn to cancel the game. Soon when things over and they find peace there probably a time for them to fight again. This postponement will give them a chance to prepare more when they finally have their match again.
The organization has nothing to do on the cancellation of a fight between Donaire and Casimero, it was the move of Donaire to cancel the fight for personal reason, if they have fought and Donaire was not so sensitive with the trash talk, the fans might have seen a good fight this year.
Yes, it was Donaire who canceled the fight for this reason.

Nonito Donaire cancels unification fight with John Riel Casimero over insults hurled at his wife

There was a good participation of the fans making speculation and prediction on who will win the fight between the two, but suddenly Donaire's camp announced that the fight is not gonna happen anymore, maybe too much trash talk of Casimero, or Donaire is afraid.
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September 27, 2021, 02:05:38 PM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.
There will a time for their match, it may be canceled now but were confident that they will face each other in a ring. The postponement is caused by what Casimero said in Donaires wife that causes thm some fight and turn to cancel the game. Soon when things over and they find peace there probably a time for them to fight again. This postponement will give them a chance to prepare more when they finally have their match again.
The organization has nothing to do on the cancellation of a fight between Donaire and Casimero, it was the move of Donaire to cancel the fight for personal reason, if they have fought and Donaire was not so sensitive with the trash talk, the fans might have seen a good fight this year.
We cannot blame Donaire though, that's how he feel and we have to respect it. Let's move on and focus on the up coming battles of the Pinoy boxers. Well, Gaballo is a great boxer too, but fighting against Donaire is not easy at all so if Gaballo wants to win he must do his best. After this required matches, let's see if Donaire and Casimero will push through or we might see a better match against Inoue.
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September 27, 2021, 02:08:46 PM
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Too bad that the association doesn't want Casimero and Donaire to face each other because it's going to be a good match since they both have a beef with each other so we can expect rage in both fighters but no it doesn't happen, even Inoue's wish to fight Casimero didn't come true as he too is pissed off with Casimero.
There will a time for their match, it may be canceled now but were confident that they will face each other in a ring. The postponement is caused by what Casimero said in Donaires wife that causes thm some fight and turn to cancel the game. Soon when things over and they find peace there probably a time for them to fight again. This postponement will give them a chance to prepare more when they finally have their match again.
The organization has nothing to do on the cancellation of a fight between Donaire and Casimero, it was the move of Donaire to cancel the fight for personal reason, if they have fought and Donaire was not so sensitive with the trash talk, the fans might have seen a good fight this year.
We cannot blame Donaire though, that's how he feel and we have to respect it. Let's move on and focus on the up coming battles of the Pinoy boxers. Well, Gaballo is a great boxer too, but fighting against Donaire is not easy at all so if Gaballo wants to win he must do his best. After this required matches, let's see if Donaire and Casimero will push through or we might see a better match against Inoue.
Donaire still ends up fighting a Filipino boxer, it's a different kind of fighter but he should not underestimate Gaballo who has never been defeated. Though I don't like what I saw in his last fight, I think it's wake up call for him to not only focus on one style, he has to adjust in the ring especially if his opponent is also adjusting, and now Gaballo is facing a high caliber fighter, he should do better than what he did during his fight with Rodriguez.

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September 27, 2021, 04:27:55 PM
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Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 But then still we will find the result after the fight.
but of course I will be aiming for Casimero to win because i wan't him to face Inoue very soon .

Others are just disappointed because they only know the names of Donaire and Casimero. If they really idolize these boxers then whoever their matchup, they should just accept it. Both Donaire and Casimero just need to win on their respective match so that they can arrange again the cancelled fight between them or possible against the top 1 Naoya Inoue next.

It's also best to see that other PH boxer is on the list. Let's support them all.
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September 27, 2021, 09:22:42 PM
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Have you watched Butler and Graballo's Games? if not then try checking if back their last 3 games and you can compare how good they are in their own divisions .
let us not be blinded because of Donaire and Casimero's popularity instead lets look at what are their opponent capacity to face them and the possibilities of beating them.
 But then still we will find the result after the fight.
but of course I will be aiming for Casimero to win because i wan't him to face Inoue very soon .

Others are just disappointed because they only know the names of Donaire and Casimero. If they really idolize these boxers then whoever their matchup, they should just accept it. Both Donaire and Casimero just need to win on their respective match so that they can arrange again the cancelled fight between them or possible against the top 1 Naoya Inoue next.

It's also best to see that other PH boxer is on the list. Let's support them all.

They are disappointed because they like to see a match up between champions, and with this news, looks like the dream match will not happen anytime soon, instead, it will only prolong as both champions (Donaire and Casimero) will have to train again in preparation of this fight.

Most fast does not see it a competitive fight because the mandatory challenger is not popular in the boxing world.

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September 27, 2021, 10:47:13 PM
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Betting odd is not available for now but it will be updated once it's out.
Also, the schedule and the venue are not yet final.

Is there an update with the venue, or is the fight official? because I haven't seen any details yet, but the WBC sure ordered Nonito Donaire a title defense with Reymart Gaballo so maybe this will surely continue, and my take if this match would surely continue, I think I will support Nonito Donaire, I guess he has that experience from all notable fighters he faces, compared to the ones Reymart Gaballo fought,

This will be a clash for both Filipino boxers, I would surely like to support both, but I really think that Nonito Donaire still has what it takes to win this, and regarding his great performance with Naoya Inoue and his win over Nordine Oubaali, there's no doubt what Nonito Donaire can really do, and I think the odds will be a very one-sided when the fight will be official.
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