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October 19, 2021, 11:28:52 PM
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That's why he need to work hard for this fight since if he lost for sure we will not see the fight of Inoue - Casimero since for sure the camp of Inoue will belittle him for losing his past fight, But we know how strong Casimero is and for sure we can see a great fight to him so let see on how he can handle Butler since this fighter is quite good but I think Casimero has more advantage to defeat this guy.

Casimero has everything to lose and really nothing to gain from this fight if he losses this fight, all his chances to get Inoue and Donaire to fight him will go out in the window and he will have to start all over again, I have seen a lot of upsets in the past months the recent one is Mikey's loss to Martin, and this is one fight that I don't want upset to happen, I still believe the Casimero - Inoue fight has the making of a great fight.

Right, hopefully though, Casimero will win this fight, need to focus on this one first before looking in the future for the Inoue or even Donaire clash.

A lot of upsets has been happening in boxing, I can only speculate is that because boxers haven't fought in this pandemic, like in the case of Mikey wherein he was like not fighting in the last two years. But Casimero is very active had fights in pandemic and again, we like him to win this fight first whether by ko (which we like as boxing fans) or UD.

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October 20, 2021, 03:20:41 AM
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Inoue is a superstar, he would only fight champions so they will make big money in a fight,
His previous fight wasn't a champion but a challenger so it's still possible that he will fight casimero or anyone who wants to challenge him. But it would be better for both camp and for the fans if the match is a unification bout, of course, it will be a huge payout for them as well.

The Inoue-Casimero possible fight has already gained some noise because of Casimero's trash talking. And Inoue is really like ready to fight him inside the ring to shut up Casimero's mouth. But it will only gain more noise if Casimero will win on this obligatory fight with Butler. So we will see what comes next after this Casimero vs Butler. I guess, we need to wait for this obligatory fight to be over.

That's why he need to work hard for this fight since if he lost for sure we will not see the fight of Inoue - Casimero since for sure the camp of Inoue will belittle him for losing his past fight, But we know how strong Casimero is and for sure we can see a great fight to him so let see on how he can handle Butler since this fighter is quite good but I think Casimero has more advantage to defeat this guy.

Casimero is a work horse, so for sure he is really working very hard for this fight as he doesn't want to be the next victim of an upset. This is still dangerous fight I guess as Butler is also very good boxer.

And hopefully with under a new promotion and perhaps new manager, Casimero will going to show what he is made of and then talk about the reunification against Inoue because that is his main target and obviously, that's where the money is.

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October 20, 2021, 12:26:14 PM
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Inoue is a superstar, he would only fight champions so they will make big money in a fight,
His previous fight wasn't a champion but a challenger so it's still possible that he will fight casimero or anyone who wants to challenge him. But it would be better for both camp and for the fans if the match is a unification bout, of course, it will be a huge payout for them as well.

The Inoue-Casimero possible fight has already gained some noise because of Casimero's trash talking. And Inoue is really like ready to fight him inside the ring to shut up Casimero's mouth. But it will only gain more noise if Casimero will win on this obligatory fight with Butler. So we will see what comes next after this Casimero vs Butler. I guess, we need to wait for this obligatory fight to be over.

That's why he need to work hard for this fight since if he lost for sure we will not see the fight of Inoue - Casimero since for sure the camp of Inoue will belittle him for losing his past fight, But we know how strong Casimero is and for sure we can see a great fight to him so let see on how he can handle Butler since this fighter is quite good but I think Casimero has more advantage to defeat this guy.

Casimero is a work horse, so for sure he is really working very hard for this fight as he doesn't want to be the next victim of an upset. This is still dangerous fight I guess as Butler is also very good boxer.

And hopefully with under a new promotion and perhaps new manager, Casimero will going to show what he is made of and then talk about the reunification against Inoue because that is his main target and obviously, that's where the money is.

Knowing Casimero for sure he will work more with it so that he can win this fight and its a big shame for him to Inoue if he will be defeated by Paul that's why he need this win so that the discussion between the fight for Inoue will be hyped again since for sure many fans will request that this fight should happen maybe next year.

Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.

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October 20, 2021, 12:32:13 PM
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Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics.



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October 20, 2021, 12:40:20 PM
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Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics.
Well let us not take account Nonito Donaire in this part in which seeking for a rematch , and  I believe that Inoue also wanted this to take into account.
though there is a  big possibility that casimero may win here yet we knew that it is the management decision whom He will be facing like what happened on this match now.
but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.

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October 20, 2021, 04:01:20 PM
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but of course Not Casimero vs Donaire because they are both Filipino pride and must not compete for the same belt.
why not? I am a Filipino and I'd love to see them fight. I love seeing great fighters fight no matter what their nationality is. besides, wouldn't it be exciting to see how these two will prepare and try to counter their opponent's styles.

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October 20, 2021, 07:14:41 PM
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The interest of Inoue might be gone if Casimero will lose on his next fight. That's what Casimero should need to worked on.
This is possible but if the feud between the two boxers is still there and Inoue is honoring it then there's no need for Casimero to be worried about whether he lose or win against Butler. I think that there's no problem as long as after this match, they're going for their delayed and postponed fight. And for the meantime while there's an order from WBO that Casimero can't reject then it's up to Inoue if he's going still for their delayed feud inside the ring.
It is obvious there is a rivalry there that both of them want to solve but we must remember this is a business, so if Casimero were to lose this fight Inoue may not be very interested in fighting him immediately as a lot of the hype will be lost and both fighters will not receive anything close to what they could have received in that scenario, so in that case the fight could be delayed even more as Inoue seems to be interested in holding all the belts on his division.
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October 20, 2021, 08:16:10 PM
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The interest of Inoue might be gone if Casimero will lose on his next fight. That's what Casimero should need to worked on.
This is possible but if the feud between the two boxers is still there and Inoue is honoring it then there's no need for Casimero to be worried about whether he lose or win against Butler. I think that there's no problem as long as after this match, they're going for their delayed and postponed fight. And for the meantime while there's an order from WBO that Casimero can't reject then it's up to Inoue if he's going still for their delayed feud inside the ring.
It is obvious there is a rivalry there that both of them want to solve but we must remember this is a business, so if Casimero were to lose this fight Inoue may not be very interested in fighting him immediately as a lot of the hype will be lost and both fighters will not receive anything close to what they could have received in that scenario, so in that case the fight could be delayed even more as Inoue seems to be interested in holding all the belts on his division.
Yes, it is a business and there's a process and changes that might happen that we didn't see coming. Just like this match of Casimero and Butler. It all came all of a sudden when most of us were already expecting Inoue as his opponent. But it all ends up with the possible hype and money that's being put in the line and I think that it will still be the same as the hype before after this match happens.

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October 20, 2021, 08:44:25 PM
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The interest of Inoue might be gone if Casimero will lose on his next fight. That's what Casimero should need to worked on.
This is possible but if the feud between the two boxers is still there and Inoue is honoring it then there's no need for Casimero to be worried about whether he lose or win against Butler. I think that there's no problem as long as after this match, they're going for their delayed and postponed fight. And for the meantime while there's an order from WBO that Casimero can't reject then it's up to Inoue if he's going still for their delayed feud inside the ring.
It is obvious there is a rivalry there that both of them want to solve but we must remember this is a business, so if Casimero were to lose this fight Inoue may not be very interested in fighting him immediately as a lot of the hype will be lost and both fighters will not receive anything close to what they could have received in that scenario, so in that case the fight could be delayed even more as Inoue seems to be interested in holding all the belts on his division.
Yes, it is a business and there's a process and changes that might happen that we didn't see coming. Just like this match of Casimero and Butler. It all came all of a sudden when most of us were already expecting Inoue as his opponent. But it all ends up with the possible hype and money that's being put in the line and I think that it will still be the same as the hype before after this match happens.
It was really just the same on what happened on that Casimero vs Rigo fight which turns out to be also a mandatory fight too where everyone is already hyping up with Inoue vs Casimero but still ending up with

some mandatory fight which we cant really do anything about it because this is something that the organizations decision in the end of the line.All we have to do is to wait up and not

to hype up yourself much because it would just frustrate you out for how many times.

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October 20, 2021, 08:53:12 PM
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The interest of Inoue might be gone if Casimero will lose on his next fight. That's what Casimero should need to worked on.
This is possible but if the feud between the two boxers is still there and Inoue is honoring it then there's no need for Casimero to be worried about whether he lose or win against Butler. I think that there's no problem as long as after this match, they're going for their delayed and postponed fight. And for the meantime while there's an order from WBO that Casimero can't reject then it's up to Inoue if he's going still for their delayed feud inside the ring.
It is obvious there is a rivalry there that both of them want to solve but we must remember this is a business, so if Casimero were to lose this fight Inoue may not be very interested in fighting him immediately as a lot of the hype will be lost and both fighters will not receive anything close to what they could have received in that scenario, so in that case the fight could be delayed even more as Inoue seems to be interested in holding all the belts on his division.
Yes, it is a business and there's a process and changes that might happen that we didn't see coming. Just like this match of Casimero and Butler. It all came all of a sudden when most of us were already expecting Inoue as his opponent. But it all ends up with the possible hype and money that's being put in the line and I think that it will still be the same as the hype before after this match happens.
It was really just the same on what happened on that Casimero vs Rigo fight which turns out to be also a mandatory fight too where everyone is already hyping up with Inoue vs Casimero but still ending up with

some mandatory fight which we cant really do anything about it because this is something that the organizations decision in the end of the line.All we have to do is to wait up and not

to hype up yourself much because it would just frustrate you out for how many times.
We just hope for the best about the next fight and wish both fighters for this upcoming fight that they have. Also hoping that there won't be any intervention by WBO and will just allow this to happen.
We want to watch how these two clashes as soon as possible and when it's ready, it should be that both of them will go smoothly and Casimero shouldn't just give any exact date to expect for.

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October 20, 2021, 09:35:51 PM
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We just hope for the best about the next fight and wish both fighters for this upcoming fight that they have. Also hoping that there won't be any intervention by WBO and will just allow this to happen.
We want to watch how these two clashes as soon as possible and when it's ready, it should be that both of them will go smoothly and Casimero shouldn't just give any exact date to expect for.
^ Probably the reason why WBO forced them to have a match is that they saw that they had the potential to become a good fight and I think WBO knows those boxer's athletes that have the potential to gain interest with the public. What is the update of this fight? Is there already a schedule for them?
For sure their tickets will be sold early because both of them are good fighters and both are aggressive. But in my case, I will in favor of Casimero here and I know his capability and skills that could be Butler cant survive.
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October 20, 2021, 09:41:02 PM
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We just hope for the best about the next fight and wish both fighters for this upcoming fight that they have. Also hoping that there won't be any intervention by WBO and will just allow this to happen.
We want to watch how these two clashes as soon as possible and when it's ready, it should be that both of them will go smoothly and Casimero shouldn't just give any exact date to expect for.
^ Probably the reason why WBO forced them to have a match is that they saw that they had the potential to become a good fight and I think WBO knows those boxer's athletes that have the potential to gain interest with the public. What is the update of this fight? Is there already a schedule for them?
For sure their tickets will be sold early because both of them are good fighters and both are aggressive. But in my case, I will in favor of Casimero here and I know his capability and skills that could be Butler cant survive.
Probably its really happening on WBO to arrange fight and not just for our filipino boxer but also to those who fight under WBO. December was their latest update though its not confirm yet, Casimero is the early favorite here if they can push through this year for sure many bettor will place to Casimero though Butler are also capable to win so this is a good match.

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October 20, 2021, 09:49:31 PM
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We just hope for the best about the next fight and wish both fighters for this upcoming fight that they have. Also hoping that there won't be any intervention by WBO and will just allow this to happen.
We want to watch how these two clashes as soon as possible and when it's ready, it should be that both of them will go smoothly and Casimero shouldn't just give any exact date to expect for.
^ Probably the reason why WBO forced them to have a match is that they saw that they had the potential to become a good fight and I think WBO knows those boxer's athletes that have the potential to gain interest with the public. What is the update of this fight? Is there already a schedule for them?
For sure their tickets will be sold early because both of them are good fighters and both are aggressive. But in my case, I will in favor of Casimero here and I know his capability and skills that could be Butler cant survive.
Possibly. The only latest update that I've got is still about their fight to happen by this December and it's either on Dubai or Liverpool says this source last 2 weeks ago.
(https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/08/december-11-set-for-casimero-butler-in-dubai-or-liverpool/)
But about the most recent update, I don't have any source to see about it but it's likely that there's no stopping for this match to happen.

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October 20, 2021, 10:06:47 PM
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Probably its really happening on WBO to arrange fight and not just for our filipino boxer but also to those who fight under WBO. December was their latest update though its not confirm yet, Casimero is the early favorite here if they can push through this year for sure many bettor will place to Casimero though Butler are also capable to win so this is a good match.

Though not sure yet, most likely this fight is going to be stage in Dubai in December this year as the money is in that place. With regards to the competitiveness of the fight, IMO this is just a walk in the park for Casimero and he would take care of business as usual. Butler doesn't stand a chance against Casimero especially now that the latter is in turmoil and for sure he wants to prove to his fans that he means business and deserves a lucrative purse in his next fight against big names in the bantamweight division.

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October 20, 2021, 10:18:56 PM
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Also maybe they can seal that fight after this match since Inoue also want the head of Casimero so lets see how they end up in future.
That's what we are waiting and we are expecting that Casimero would win against Butler as the fight against would not happen if he fail in this fight. It's also very important to give an impressive win as his KO streak was broken when he fought Rigo although he won, it was a bit controversial or not convincing for some critics.

Well in fairness to Casimero its so hard to knock out the opponent if the only thing he do is to run, Rigondeaux almost not punching on that fight so lets all give the credit to Casimero since that fight is a big shame in boxing history. But Casimero's second fight well be the best prove that he's best and capable to fight anyone including the monster that they called so its really good to see him win since if not all of those hype will be at waste since for sure we can't see those hype fight to happen between him and that japanese fighter.

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That's why he need to work hard for this fight since if he lost for sure we will not see the fight of Inoue - Casimero since for sure the camp of Inoue will belittle him for losing his past fight, But we know how strong Casimero is and for sure we can see a great fight to him so let see on how he can handle Butler since this fighter is quite good but I think Casimero has more advantage to defeat this guy.

Casimero has everything to lose and really nothing to gain from this fight if he losses this fight, all his chances to get Inoue and Donaire to fight him will go out in the window and he will have to start all over again, I have seen a lot of upsets in the past months the recent one is Mikey's loss to Martin, and this is one fight that I don't want upset to happen, I still believe the Casimero - Inoue fight has the making of a great fight.

Plus we can add that he have pay cuts towards this fight that's why its somehow unfair to him that this obligatory fight happened, that's why in other hand he really need to push his self to win since he has everything to lose once he belittle his opponent.

I also believe in Casimero he's still a lot to offer to us and I do hope that he win this fight since I want to watch him fight agains Donaire or even Inoue.

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October 20, 2021, 11:42:25 PM
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That's why he need to work hard for this fight since if he lost for sure we will not see the fight of Inoue - Casimero since for sure the camp of Inoue will belittle him for losing his past fight, But we know how strong Casimero is and for sure we can see a great fight to him so let see on how he can handle Butler since this fighter is quite good but I think Casimero has more advantage to defeat this guy.

Casimero has everything to lose and really nothing to gain from this fight if he losses this fight, all his chances to get Inoue and Donaire to fight him will go out in the window and he will have to start all over again, I have seen a lot of upsets in the past months the recent one is Mikey's loss to Martin, and this is one fight that I don't want upset to happen, I still believe the Casimero - Inoue fight has the making of a great fight.

Plus we can add that he have pay cuts towards this fight that's why its somehow unfair to him that this obligatory fight happened, that's why in other hand he really need to push his self to win since he has everything to lose once he belittle his opponent.

I also believe in Casimero he's still a lot to offer to us and I do hope that he win this fight since I want to watch him fight agains Donaire or even Inoue.

This upcoming mandatory fight is really a determinant factor for him what will come next to his career. Because if he wins, either he will fight with Inoue or Donaire. But if he will lose, the interest of fighting with Inoue may not come up again. As Inoue may want a different opponent that will give good ticket sales. So Casimero should really prepare for this fight because it is somewhat a reference to his next happenings of his boxing career.
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October 21, 2021, 09:55:40 AM
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This upcoming mandatory fight is really a determinant factor for him what will come next to his career. Because if he wins, either he will fight with Inoue or Donaire. But if he will lose, the interest of fighting with Inoue may not come up again. As Inoue may want a different opponent that will give good ticket sales. So Casimero should really prepare for this fight because it is somewhat a reference to his next happenings of his boxing career.

Casimero's future relying on every win that he will add to his belt,
it's true that if he loses from this mandatory fight, the chance of fighting Inoue will be far to happen,

the interest will be diverted to other opponent including Butler who beat Casimero, that kind of news
will spark interest and bring more cash for the ticket sales.

If he want (Casimero) to have a much closer chance fighting Inoue, this mandatory fight
will be the best venue to showcase his skills and attract more pressure to put into Inoue's camp.
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That's why he need to work hard for this fight since if he lost for sure we will not see the fight of Inoue - Casimero since for sure the camp of Inoue will belittle him for losing his past fight, But we know how strong Casimero is and for sure we can see a great fight to him so let see on how he can handle Butler since this fighter is quite good but I think Casimero has more advantage to defeat this guy.

Casimero has everything to lose and really nothing to gain from this fight if he losses this fight, all his chances to get Inoue and Donaire to fight him will go out in the window and he will have to start all over again, I have seen a lot of upsets in the past months the recent one is Mikey's loss to Martin, and this is one fight that I don't want upset to happen, I still believe the Casimero - Inoue fight has the making of a great fight.

Plus we can add that he have pay cuts towards this fight that's why its somehow unfair to him that this obligatory fight happened, that's why in other hand he really need to push his self to win since he has everything to lose once he belittle his opponent.

I also believe in Casimero he's still a lot to offer to us and I do hope that he win this fight since I want to watch him fight agains Donaire or even Inoue.

This upcoming mandatory fight is really a determinant factor for him what will come next to his career. Because if he wins, either he will fight with Inoue or Donaire. But if he will lose, the interest of fighting with Inoue may not come up again. As Inoue may want a different opponent that will give good ticket sales. So Casimero should really prepare for this fight because it is somewhat a reference to his next happenings of his boxing career.

Although this fight is unfair to him but yeah this is determinant factor to him since once he win this fight for sure he's rank or morale increase on this fight and also he will be notice by other stronger fighter so Casimero should really work since if he finish this and fight Inoue after that for sure he could be earn more praise and be respected more in his division. I strongly believe that Inoue vs Casimero fight will be buyable knowing they already created a hype for their upcoming fight.

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October 21, 2021, 01:31:58 PM
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Although this fight is unfair to him but yeah this is determinant factor to him since once he win this fight for sure he's rank or morale increase on this fight and also he will be notice by other stronger fighter so Casimero should really work since if he finish this and fight Inoue after that for sure he could be earn more praise and be respected more in his division. I strongly believe that Inoue vs Casimero fight will be buyable knowing they already created a hype for their upcoming fight.

Before this mandatory fight of Casimero to Butler came into picture boxing fans were expecting to see Inoue and Casimero both in the same ring fighting for a title but this fight is an ordered fight though the winning cut for Casimero is unfair but he must need to push this fight and hopefully win because this will be his ticket to have more big fights in future. Either a rematch of Casimero to Donaire or the anticipated fight between Casimero and Inoue will be big enough for him.
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