[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[carlisle1]

Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

For betting, we will not see a good odds for Casimero as he is a champion.

I hope betting to him by Decision or Knockout will have a good odds so while we are cheering for Casimero, we will also have a chance to win a good amount in return.

Casimero @ 1.5 vs Butler @3 will be my odds speculation on that fight.

I speculate that it might be lower than that, so yeah, I agree with most posters that it's not worth to bet on the ML line for Casimero.

But for sure there will be other betting options for us and that's where the money is. And if you are really lucky betting on the exact round to which Casimero might win, it will be huge win.

Aiming for much better odds, this is the only option since the ML is too far and just a waste if you are not going to use big volume

of your funds, Though more on game of luck if you will predict the correct rounds or if Casimero will KO or whatever other options

The bookies have to offer. But for sure, the ML is not enticing to bring bettors to grab. They will surely look for other alternatives.

[Rufsilf]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

[Cling18]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.

[bekti3]

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

but even so, I still believe the jury will be on a neutral side and it is not beneficial for only one party and indeed this is actually quite risky, although sometimes it's not like that.
and the fact that even though Casimero is currently in the opponent's territory but I still see that he is still very well seeded here. this proves that it doesn't really matter whether he is currently fighting in the opponent's territory or not because indeed they see it from an objectivity perspective and it is very natural that he is indeed the favorite even though he acts as a guest in the butler's territory.

[Rufsilf]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.

We'll let's hope that there would be no favoritism in this fight but Casimero and his team should be careful and ready if those instances or situations will arise, that's why a KO would be a big help to secure the fight in his favor. Yes, we know that Casimero is very dedicated and eager to get in this fight because this is his only hope to stand tall in the industry.

[bisdak40]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

Casimero has been in this situation many times in the past and he handled it well. He was even more dangerous to opponents when fighting on the road, i mean on the opponents homecourt so i think this Butler fight would be the same and he could pulled off this one and defend the belt.

This is his last chance and if Casimero won't show up in the weighing scale then WBO would strip him off the belt, no ifs and buts so he should be more focus now on his conditioning and manage his weight well from now on.

[crzy]

Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?

I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.

From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .

Casimero is a huge betting favorite for this weekend’s bout against Butler with odds ranging from -2000 to -3400. These are the largest his odds have been in at least six years.

https://www.gamblingsites.org/blog/john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-prop-bets-winner/

Let’s see if the odds will change once the match is getting near, I’m now hesitant to place some bet if the odds are like this, I don’t think its worth to bet if ever. There’s plenty of time to list this match on the site, I hope to see many options since Casimero is a great boxer and this match might attract bigger site.

[Russlenat]

Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?

I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.

From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .

Casimero is a huge betting favorite for this weekend’s bout against Butler with odds ranging from -2000 to -3400. These are the largest his odds have been in at least six years.

https://www.gamblingsites.org/blog/john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-prop-bets-winner/

Let’s see if the odds will change once the match is getting near, I’m now hesitant to place some bet if the odds are like this, I don’t think its worth to bet if ever. There’s plenty of time to list this match on the site, I hope to see many options since Casimero is a great boxer and this match might attract bigger site.

The odds are not final yet, we can only say it's official once it's already listed in the sportsbook, for now, consider that odds are just a prediction and since the fight is in Butler's country, then most likely he would not be like that but I still think that Casimero would be the favorite.

[Xinarae*]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

Every fighter is dangerous at this level has worked hard for so many years for this fight. Casimero is a very good player and every step he takes has the potential to win co featuring a world championship, WBO world bantamweight champion john real casmero. Defending the title of his tough fight against the compulsive competitor will ensure victory.

[Ziskinberg]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

Every fighter is dangerous at this level has worked hard for so many years for this fight. Casimero is a very good player and every step he takes has the potential to win co featuring a world championship, WBO world bantamweight champion john real casmero. Defending the title of his tough fight against the compulsive competitor will ensure victory.

Though he is the favorite to win the fight, I still don't call think that he will ensure a victory. Butler is training hard as well, just like Casimero, so the best fighter will win in this fight and I'm sure it's not gonna be boring compared to Casimero's fight against Rigo who just keep on running until  then 12 rounds.

[btc_angela]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.

It will be fair, no doubt about it, both are training hard so it's just a matter on who punches hard and have the tools to beat the other guy. And most likely it will be Casimero although he will be fighting in a hostile crowd in UK. Wherein we all know that they are very rude crowd to the point that they are somewhat on the boundary of being 'racist'. Nevertheless, Casimero has been in this situation before and he will still be the favorite here to win even if the fight is going to be held on Butler's home court.

[passwordnow]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

[mirakal]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.

It will be fair, no doubt about it, both are training hard so it's just a matter on who punches hard and have the tools to beat the other guy. And most likely it will be Casimero although he will be fighting in a hostile crowd in UK. Wherein we all know that they are very rude crowd to the point that they are somewhat on the boundary of being 'racist'. Nevertheless, Casimero has been in this situation before and he will still be the favorite here to win even if the fight is going to be held on Butler's home court.

As you said, it's a hostile ground and I think we already know how far these people can go just to deviate the scores if they're that dedicated, so Casimero and his team should be ready and watch out if indeed this speculation will happen and a lethal punch that could knock Butler out is the best option they got to avoid favoritism among the judges. Nonetheless, I have no doubt that Casimero have what it takes to defeat Butler and that he could overcome this fight.

[Yaunfitda]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.

[freedomgo]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.

The crowd already knows that their fighter is a heavy underdog, so they understand if Butler will lose in the fight. It will only hurt the crowd if they know that Butler is the favorite as they are expecting him to win, just like the fight against Tete where Tete was the favorite and it happen in their own home country.

[Kelvinid]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.

The crowd already knows that their fighter is a heavy underdog, so they understand if Butler will lose in the fight. It will only hurt the crowd if they know that Butler is the favorite as they are expecting him to win, just like the fight against Tete where Tete was the favorite and it happen in their own home country.

Not everyone are bettors, so some have no idea about the betting odds, once a fighter fight in his country, the support is 100% from the fans, they are biased as they follow their emotion and they will not see even though Casimero si the champion and the better fighter.

[crzy]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.

The crowd already knows that their fighter is a heavy underdog, so they understand if Butler will lose in the fight. It will only hurt the crowd if they know that Butler is the favorite as they are expecting him to win, just like the fight against Tete where Tete was the favorite and it happen in their own home country.

Not everyone are bettors, so some have no idea about the betting odds, once a fighter fight in his country, the support is 100% from the fans, they are biased as they follow their emotion and they will not see even though Casimero si the champion and the better fighter.

That's true, supporters wont focus that much with the odds all they know is if their favorite player/team won they will won also and there's nothing wrong about that since there are also bet under the table I mean you can bet with your friends and that doesn't require to understand the odds. Fans will always be a fan, but seriously if you are going to bet online its really important to understand the odds because this can make you more profitable regardless of who are you betting with.

[Kelvinid]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.

The crowd already knows that their fighter is a heavy underdog, so they understand if Butler will lose in the fight. It will only hurt the crowd if they know that Butler is the favorite as they are expecting him to win, just like the fight against Tete where Tete was the favorite and it happen in their own home country.

Not everyone are bettors, so some have no idea about the betting odds, once a fighter fight in his country, the support is 100% from the fans, they are biased as they follow their emotion and they will not see even though Casimero si the champion and the better fighter.

That's true, supporters wont focus that much with the odds all they know is if their favorite player/team won they will won also and there's nothing wrong about that since there are also bet under the table I mean you can bet with your friends and that doesn't require to understand the odds. Fans will always be a fan, but seriously if you are going to bet online its really important to understand the odds because this can make you more profitable regardless of who are you betting with.

That's the basic thing to do, understanding the odds is very important, and not only that, you also have to weigh the odds if it's right or just a trap, lots of newbies does not understand that, if they see good odds they'll take it right away without thinking that it could be a trap.

Most fans uses their emotion in this fight, we bettors we used our minds.

[Mahanton]

I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.

I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.

The crowd already knows that their fighter is a heavy underdog, so they understand if Butler will lose in the fight. It will only hurt the crowd if they know that Butler is the favorite as they are expecting him to win, just like the fight against Tete where Tete was the favorite and it happen in their own home country.

Not everyone are bettors, so some have no idea about the betting odds, once a fighter fight in his country, the support is 100% from the fans, they are biased as they follow their emotion and they will not see even though Casimero si the champion and the better fighter.

That's true, supporters wont focus that much with the odds all they know is if their favorite player/team won they will won also and there's nothing wrong about that since there are also bet under the table I mean you can bet with your friends and that doesn't require to understand the odds. Fans will always be a fan, but seriously if you are going to bet online its really important to understand the odds because this can make you more profitable regardless of who are you betting with.

That's the basic thing to do, understanding the odds is very important, and not only that, you also have to weigh the odds if it's right or just a trap, lots of newbies does not understand that, if they see good odds they'll take it right away without thinking that it could be a trap.

Most fans uses their emotion in this fight, we bettors we used our minds.

When making or doing sports betting then you shouldnt really matter with your emotion because you would really be making out mistakes in that case.Make bets according to your own knowledge
and do make analysis whether its a worthy odds or chance for you to take advantage on what you are seeing and this is where people do really make out choices according to on what they do saw.
but in most cases this would really be minding or choosing the favorites most of the time which is really very common.

[AmoreJaz]

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

Every fighter is dangerous at this level has worked hard for so many years for this fight. Casimero is a very good player and every step he takes has the potential to win co featuring a world championship, WBO world bantamweight champion john real casmero. Defending the title of his tough fight against the compulsive competitor will ensure victory.

Though he is the favorite to win the fight, I still don't call think that he will ensure a victory. Butler is training hard as well, just like Casimero, so the best fighter will win in this fight and I'm sure it's not gonna be boring compared to Casimero's fight against Rigo who just keep on running until  then 12 rounds.

yeah, i clearly remember his fight with rigo. some were making a meme that he is mayweather jr.  most boxing fans want a toe-to-toe fight not a boring/running/defensive style. i believe butler can give more action inside the ring, and that is dangerous for casimero. he is fighting in opponent's turf. so even if he will be the favourite here, he better finish this early or possibly suffer loss if this will go the distance.