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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.  (Read 9123 times)
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January 29, 2022, 07:59:17 PM
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Nice to see that's there an update now regarding the fight. At last, the official date was release. We are seeing good matches in the 2Q of this tear, not just with our boxer but for other big fights as well.

April, the month to wait and we will now finally see Casimero returning to action.

Hope no more medical issues as Casimero will lose his title as stated on previous post.
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January 29, 2022, 08:04:35 PM
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Nice to see that's there an update now regarding the fight. At last, the official date was release. We are seeing good matches in the 2Q of this tear, not just with our boxer but for other big fights as well.

April, the month to wait and we will now finally see Casimero returning to action.

Hope no more medical issues as Casimero will lose his title as stated on previous post.
Hear the news as well and I think that’s enough time to train and heal the injury with Casimero, this is a great news finally. Casimero really have to fight Butler or else WBO will make their final decision with regards to this one. Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.
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January 29, 2022, 08:34:26 PM
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Nice to see that's there an update now regarding the fight. At last, the official date was release. We are seeing good matches in the 2Q of this tear, not just with our boxer but for other big fights as well.

April, the month to wait and we will now finally see Casimero returning to action.

Hope no more medical issues as Casimero will lose his title as stated on previous post.
Hear the news as well and I think that’s enough time to train and heal the injury with Casimero, this is a great news finally. Casimero really have to fight Butler or else WBO will make their final decision with regards to this one. Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

That's enough time for him to be healthy again and to be fully conditioned. After winning this fight, there still plenty of time to train for the 2nd fight this year, and hopefully that will be against Inoue. As of now, Inoue is free as he already beat his last opponent, so all Casimero has to do now is to win impressively so Inoue would be interested in fighting him.

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January 29, 2022, 09:29:26 PM
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Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

For betting, we will not see a good odds for Casimero as he is a champion.

I hope betting to him by Decision or Knockout will have a good odds so while we are cheering for Casimero, we will also have a chance to win a good amount in return.

Casimero @ 1.5 vs Butler @3 will be my odds speculation on that fight.
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January 29, 2022, 09:43:17 PM
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Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

For betting, we will not see a good odds for Casimero as he is a champion.

I hope betting to him by Decision or Knockout will have a good odds so while we are cheering for Casimero, we will also have a chance to win a good amount in return.

Casimero @ 1.5 vs Butler @3 will be my odds speculation on that fight.

The odds are as follows per https://www.thesportsgeek.com/boxing/casimero-vs-butler-betting-pick-latest-odds-and-fight-analysis/

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Betting Pick   Odds and Payout per Dollar Wagered
Paul Butler Money Line   +800, $8.00
John Riel Casimero Money Line   -1500, $0.07

You are lucky enough if you'll get the odds of 1.50 for Casimero, as personally, I will grab that odds as well.
I hope your prediction is correct but I'm doubtful that odds will be close as that.

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January 29, 2022, 09:46:08 PM
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Nice to see that's there an update now regarding the fight. At last, the official date was release. We are seeing good matches in the 2Q of this tear, not just with our boxer but for other big fights as well.

April, the month to wait and we will now finally see Casimero returning to action.

Hope no more medical issues as Casimero will lose his title as stated on previous post.
Hear the news as well and I think that’s enough time to train and heal the injury with Casimero, this is a great news finally. Casimero really have to fight Butler or else WBO will make their final decision with regards to this one. Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

That's enough time for him to be healthy again and to be fully conditioned. After winning this fight, there still plenty of time to train for the 2nd fight this year, and hopefully that will be against Inoue. As of now, Inoue is free as he already beat his last opponent, so all Casimero has to do now is to win impressively so Inoue would be interested in fighting him.
Hoping for no more reason of delays and cancellation of this match, we’ve waited for this for too long and in the next 3 months, we can finally see these two fighting on each other, no more health issues again hopefully. Let’s see if Casimero can really dominate Butler, since they are both eager to win especially Butler who wants to take Casimero down.
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January 29, 2022, 09:48:56 PM
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Nice to see that's there an update now regarding the fight. At last, the official date was release. We are seeing good matches in the 2Q of this tear, not just with our boxer but for other big fights as well.

April, the month to wait and we will now finally see Casimero returning to action.

Hope no more medical issues as Casimero will lose his title as stated on previous post.
Hear the news as well and I think that’s enough time to train and heal the injury with Casimero, this is a great news finally. Casimero really have to fight Butler or else WBO will make their final decision with regards to this one. Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

That's enough time for him to be healthy again and to be fully conditioned. After winning this fight, there still plenty of time to train for the 2nd fight this year, and hopefully that will be against Inoue. As of now, Inoue is free as he already beat his last opponent, so all Casimero has to do now is to win impressively so Inoue would be interested in fighting him.
Hoping for no more reason of delays and cancellation of this match, we’ve waited for this for too long and in the next 3 months, we can finally see these two fighting on each other, no more health issues again hopefully. Let’s see if Casimero can really dominate Butler, since they are both eager to win especially Butler who wants to take Casimero down.
Both of them want to win but may the best man win.

As of now, they have to focus on training to condition their body, but they should not be overtrained so they won't be injured and they'll be 100% ready in the fight night. I am still rooting for Casimero to win but I'll be looking for the best odds if I will put a bet, probably a handicap bet or a prediction of round he could kO Butler.

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January 29, 2022, 10:06:10 PM
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They're the ones that are doing everything to bank the money for both fighters and that's why they have the say to just being followed and these boxers can't say a no to them.
Also, it will affect their career if they would go against to what Arum says and they won't get any match or will have a long time of wait before Arum gets on them again since it's all about being professional and business.

That's unfortunate thing on boxing since they can't say no to their promoter knowing if they do so their career will be ruined. There are series of events where arum dispose or give less priority to a fighter and we can say that they are doomed since they struggle to get a fight. So best to follow him for now and show some good fight to increase their stack then fight their desired fighters, also for sure fan votes will matter since this is still a business.
It's part of the business and it's like being employed and whatever the boss says, you just have to follow it. Those series that you've mentioned is what these boxers are avoiding so that they'll keep going on their career. It's really their main source of living and whatever the promoters say and gives speech about their matches, they just have to go with the flow.

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January 29, 2022, 10:24:38 PM
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Nice to see that's there an update now regarding the fight. At last, the official date was release. We are seeing good matches in the 2Q of this tear, not just with our boxer but for other big fights as well.

April, the month to wait and we will now finally see Casimero returning to action.

Hope no more medical issues as Casimero will lose his title as stated on previous post.
Hear the news as well and I think that’s enough time to train and heal the injury with Casimero, this is a great news finally. Casimero really have to fight Butler or else WBO will make their final decision with regards to this one. Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

That's enough time for him to be healthy again and to be fully conditioned. After winning this fight, there still plenty of time to train for the 2nd fight this year, and hopefully that will be against Inoue. As of now, Inoue is free as he already beat his last opponent, so all Casimero has to do now is to win impressively so Inoue would be interested in fighting him.
Hoping for no more reason of delays and cancellation of this match, we’ve waited for this for too long and in the next 3 months, we can finally see these two fighting on each other, no more health issues again hopefully. Let’s see if Casimero can really dominate Butler, since they are both eager to win especially Butler who wants to take Casimero down.

As this will happen this coming April, there will be a lot of things that may possibly happen.
But hopefully, no one will pull out again at the last minute.
Unless, one of them contracted Covid, which is the usual reason why fights are getting cancelled.
Both fighters should take care of themselves so this match will finally happen.
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
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January 29, 2022, 10:33:34 PM
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Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

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January 29, 2022, 10:36:10 PM
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You are lucky enough if you'll get the odds of 1.50 for Casimero, as personally, I will grab that odds as well.
I hope your prediction is correct but I'm doubtful that odds will be close as that.

Same speculations and predictions as well, we are lucky to get that 1.5 for Casimero. I'm seeing 1.2 as Butler doesn't give any hype that he can upset Casimero. It will be a blowout loss if Casimero loses here. Same as the prediction above, odds of 3 for Butler is seems the odds we can see once sportsbook listed that fight.

I will take that 1.5 for Casimero but maybe hesitant for below for it.
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January 29, 2022, 10:42:52 PM
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You are lucky enough if you'll get the odds of 1.50 for Casimero, as personally, I will grab that odds as well.
I hope your prediction is correct but I'm doubtful that odds will be close as that.

Same speculations and predictions as well, we are lucky to get that 1.5 for Casimero. I'm seeing 1.2 as Butler doesn't give any hype that he can upset Casimero. It will be a blowout loss if Casimero loses here. Same as the prediction above, odds of 3 for Butler is seems the odds we can see once sportsbook listed that fight.

I will take that 1.5 for Casimero but maybe hesitant for below for it.

1.20 is decent if you have a decent amount, a $10k bet would give you $2k profit, but the question is, are you willing to risk that amount in a single sportsbook or any sportsbook that are available in the space. What if you win and they'll require some information and withheld your money? that's the risk I'm seeing so the best choice is the fiat sportsbook if you have that kind of amount.
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You are lucky enough if you'll get the odds of 1.50 for Casimero, as personally, I will grab that odds as well.
I hope your prediction is correct but I'm doubtful that odds will be close as that.

Same speculations and predictions as well, we are lucky to get that 1.5 for Casimero. I'm seeing 1.2 as Butler doesn't give any hype that he can upset Casimero. It will be a blowout loss if Casimero loses here. Same as the prediction above, odds of 3 for Butler is seems the odds we can see once sportsbook listed that fight.

I will take that 1.5 for Casimero but maybe hesitant for below for it.

1.20 is decent if you have a decent amount, a $10k bet would give you $2k profit, but the question is, are you willing to risk that amount in a single sportsbook or any sportsbook that are available in the space. What if you win and they'll require some information and withheld your money? that's the risk I'm seeing so the best choice is the fiat sportsbook if you have that kind of amount.

No way hehe. I won't risk a $10,000 amount even let's say I have that amount and Casimero is a sure win on that fight.

You can't have that example applicable to average gamblers here. Big gamblers are the only one who can capable of risking that.

There are lots of betting options not limited only to who will win.
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January 29, 2022, 11:36:41 PM
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1.20 is decent if you have a decent amount, a $10k bet would give you $2k profit, but the question is, are you willing to risk that amount in a single sportsbook or any sportsbook that are available in the space. What if you win and they'll require some information and withheld your money? that's the risk I'm seeing so the best choice is the fiat sportsbook if you have that kind of amount.

$10,000 bet amount is not an amount we can risk by us. If there's a bravery within us, we can even bet $100 for 1.2 but I won't do that. Casimero is a sure win for me but I don't have that guts to bet an amount for a small return.

Win by decision, at least should be odds 3. That's a good bet.

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January 30, 2022, 12:59:42 AM
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1.20 is decent if you have a decent amount, a $10k bet would give you $2k profit, but the question is, are you willing to risk that amount in a single sportsbook or any sportsbook that are available in the space. What if you win and they'll require some information and withheld your money? that's the risk I'm seeing so the best choice is the fiat sportsbook if you have that kind of amount.

$10,000 bet amount is not an amount we can risk by us. If there's a bravery within us, we can even bet $100 for 1.2 but I won't do that. Casimero is a sure win for me but I don't have that guts to bet an amount for a small return.

Win by decision, at least should be odds 3. That's a good bet.
Yes for an average gamblers its not possible to risk $10k even we're talking a sure win here because its too much to risk. Only whales has the guts to do so. I will only bet the amount that is not going to be a pain if ever my instinct didnt make me lucky.

Anyway its nice that there's a set date for this fight already. I hope everything went well for Casimero especially about his health.

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January 30, 2022, 12:54:24 PM
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1.20 is decent if you have a decent amount, a $10k bet would give you $2k profit, but the question is, are you willing to risk that amount in a single sportsbook or any sportsbook that are available in the space. What if you win and they'll require some information and withheld your money? that's the risk I'm seeing so the best choice is the fiat sportsbook if you have that kind of amount.

$10,000 bet amount is not an amount we can risk by us. If there's a bravery within us, we can even bet $100 for 1.2 but I won't do that. Casimero is a sure win for me but I don't have that guts to bet an amount for a small return.

Win by decision, at least should be odds 3. That's a good bet.
Someone will take that bet, they always have a gambler who see a good opportunity no matter how much the odds are.
Casimero will surely have the advantage here despite of his health issue, Butler have to prepare more there's still plenty of time for both of them.

Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?
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Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?

I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.

From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .
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January 30, 2022, 01:56:26 PM
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Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?

I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.

From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .
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https://www.gamblingsites.org/blog/john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-prop-bets-winner/

-3400 converted to decimal odds is only 1.03, that doesn't look attractive to me, risking $100 would only gain 3$ if you win, it's not worth taking the risk to be honest. This would be the home court of the challenger but Casimero is so comfortable anywhere he would fight, that's why bookies does not consider that when making the odds of this fight.

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January 30, 2022, 02:40:52 PM
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Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.

For betting, we will not see a good odds for Casimero as he is a champion.

I hope betting to him by Decision or Knockout will have a good odds so while we are cheering for Casimero, we will also have a chance to win a good amount in return.

Casimero @ 1.5 vs Butler @3 will be my odds speculation on that fight.

I speculate that it might be lower than that, so yeah, I agree with most posters that it's not worth to bet on the ML line for Casimero.

But for sure there will be other betting options for us and that's where the money is. And if you are really lucky betting on the exact round to which Casimero might win, it will be huge win.

 
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January 30, 2022, 03:40:19 PM
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I doubt he'll ruin his name and career by not showing up for this fight. I know there are rumors regarding him faking the illness but if the WBO confirmed the evidence he showed, I believe that he was not faking his Illness.

It's not fake, it's real, otherwise, he will go to jail or will lose his license. Casimero has proven not feeling well that time so he was not stripped with this belt, for the 2nd time, he is given another chance to defend his title and I'm sure he will do just find and beat his challenger.

Casimero is on his way making his name to be more famous in the industry and I don't actually believe that he will do that because surely Casimero himself know what would be the outcome if he suddenly decides not to show up and it's just a rumor that he's just faking his illness that's why he was hospitalized but there's some videos in the youtube that can vouch his actions.

If I'm not mistaken, Casimero has history of having problems making the weight.

But I think this time there will be no slippage, because he knows that once he failed to show up or missed the weight in scale he will be strip of the belt on the fight night itself. So his team should really be careful of what he eat. Although there are still months before the actual fight. They should at least manage his weight by now, as early as they can so that there will be no cramping and huge drop in weight days before the fight because it will put a lot of strain in the body.

He better be in good shape and show up in the scheduled weigh-in because either way it's a bad news for him as it would really take a toll on his career. But I think this fight will happen April 23, right? So, he still have some few months left but there's no need to rush and should focus more in training if he truly wants to defeat Butler. He should take this very seriously tho.

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