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October 18, 2021, 01:41:39 PM
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There is no any information where he is losing. May be it will be enough to change casino. Probably his own level is rather low and it is not enough to win. I can`t say about myself that i always lost. And i think no one can say that he always losing. It looks like that OP has some other problems, not with cheating.

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October 18, 2021, 09:34:17 PM
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There is no any information where he is losing. May be it will be enough to change casino. Probably his own level is rather low and it is not enough to win. I can`t say about myself that i always lost. And i think no one can say that he always losing. It looks like that OP has some other problems, not with cheating.

He has a problem with himself! As some other member pointed out!

I guess there are people who constantly lose in poker, other gambling games, trading... and in most cases those people don't blame themselves, their ignorance, they blame "the game"!

Well, I can only say one thing, if you really want to play make sure to learn everything you can before you start! That can save you from many troubles!

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October 18, 2021, 10:00:57 PM
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I mean I do win against players, I can do it for a week, a month and even a year but I always lose to the house.

The rake and house wins, it’s like impossible to beat the house...



Unfortunately, house always takes advantage. The players are not always very skilled and often random people who are there just for fun, so it is often very easy to win with them, especially if you are an experienced player.


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October 18, 2021, 10:22:19 PM
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I mean I do win against players, I can do it for a week, a month and even a year but I always lose to the house.

The rake and house wins, it’s like impossible to beat the house...
Unfortunately, house always takes advantage. The players are not always very skilled and often random people who are there just for fun, so it is often very easy to win with them, especially if you are an experienced player.
Well, as they say, the more time that you will spend on the house the more chances you will lose.
But for me --if you gamble just for fun there is nothing to worry about because you can limit yourself in your gambling session not to exceed beyond the limit. It is totally different when you gamble in a poker room than against in the house edge and I think there must an odds there that the chances of winning were controlled by them. And perhaps gambling was design not for earning profit or could be a source of income, it is just pure entertainment, if gambling casinos will always lose, they will perhaps bankrupt their business.









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October 19, 2021, 06:19:41 AM
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There is no any information where he is losing. May be it will be enough to change casino.
the OP basically says that he is losing to the house through rake/commission. like I said before to the OP if he thinks that the rake is too high for him he should find another poker gambling site that has a lower rake than the one he is playing now.

Probably his own level is rather low and it is not enough to win. I can`t say about myself that i always lost. And i think no one can say that he always losing.
the OP claims that he has no problem winning with other players. so him not having enough skill is not the problem(at least according to him)

It looks like that OP has some other problems, not with cheating.
yeah, he has.

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October 19, 2021, 08:15:57 AM
Last edit: October 19, 2021, 08:28:24 AM by Betwrong
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What did you mean by you lose to house? I guess Poker is played on a board with some other players. I haven’t seen poker playing with the house/dealer? I can't remember. Nevertheless, I have some doubts with the players though; I have lost few hands which was worst IMO though sometimes it happens. I mean it was hard to believe that I got unlucky in that few hands & for a moment it all looked like I lost to the dealer LOL.
^ Yeah, there is.
There are poker casinos that you can play the house, all you have to do is beat the dealer and there is no opponent that you can play.
The same concept of playing with poker that has a real player but you and the house were there and there is no other opponent. Nevertheless, I really like this game because the chances of winning were always there, but beating against the house is a very risky part, you don't know how to bluff a house and I think, fighting against the house is pure of luck and not about the skills.

To be honest, although I'm a big fan of pvp poker, I've never played against the dealer. But from what I saw on YouTube, I think you are right, this game is purely based on luck. It's not that I totally dismiss purely luck based games, no. I love to play slots, dice, crash and other games of this kind, I'm just not attracted to purely luck based poker, that's all.

Btw, I didn't think OP was talking about playing against dealer. I thought he meant that he was winning against other players, but his winnings were somehow eaten by the house in the end.

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October 19, 2021, 09:16:55 AM
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There is no any information where he is losing. May be it will be enough to change casino. Probably his own level is rather low and it is not enough to win. I can`t say about myself that i always lost. And i think no one can say that he always losing. It looks like that OP has some other problems, not with cheating.

He has a problem with himself! As some other member pointed out!

I guess there are people who constantly lose in poker, other gambling games, trading... and in most cases those people don't blame themselves, their ignorance, they blame "the game"!

Well, I can only say one thing, if you really want to play make sure to learn everything you can before you start! That can save you from many troubles!
Of course, the easiest way is to say that smth wrong with everything around but not the player. As for me, i decided lots of years ago - when i go to play, all money that i`m ready to bet - are lost. If i win smth - this is bonus for fun i`ve got, if i lost - ok, i paid for fun. It`s nobody fault that i lost.

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October 19, 2021, 09:42:43 AM
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I mean I do win against players, I can do it for a week, a month and even a year but I always lose to the house.

The rake and house wins, it’s like impossible to beat the house...


Because in pvp poker you can asses their action , their Body language and the facial reaction while in Online Versus Computer ? it is harder to predict and we even lose all the time.
I am also Good in against Player trust me I can beat you , but In online Poker? lol 95% lose and only 5% win rate  Grin
and also why focus in Poker when there are so many games that we can exchange from this.

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You can't win because of house-players that poker-rooms employ and because their software is rigged to favor house-players.

So, you not only lose due to rake but also because you're being fished.
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October 19, 2021, 11:35:40 AM
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There is no any information where he is losing. May be it will be enough to change casino.
the OP basically says that he is losing to the house through rake/commission. like I said before to the OP if he thinks that the rake is too high for him he should find another poker gambling site that has a lower rake than the one he is playing now.
As i understand - wins the rake and house, so if change rake the problem will not be solved. I think it mostly problem with quality of his game skills.

Probably his own level is rather low and it is not enough to win. I can`t say about myself that i always lost. And i think no one can say that he always losing.
the OP claims that he has no problem winning with other players. so him not having enough skill is not the problem(at least according to him)
I think that sometimes he wins other players. I don`t sure but it may be players that try to play first-second time, or even some bots.

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October 19, 2021, 12:11:51 PM
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Of course, the easiest way is to say that smth wrong with everything around but not the player. As for me, i decided lots of years ago - when i go to play, all money that i`m ready to bet - are lost. If i win smth - this is bonus for fun i`ve got, if i lost - ok, i paid for fun. It`s nobody fault that i lost.

Exactly! When I decide to gamble, whatever game (and I play many of them) I am also ready to lose it, and in that way, I am ready to make some crazy final bet if it's come to that point and try to recover and make a profit or to go to zero (happened too many times, and too many times I survived and lost)!

I think it's the right way of gambling, decide how much you can afford to lose and don't hold yourself and be desperate about watching bankroll goes down, that can affect the gameplay in a negative way, that can stop you from pulling the right move in the right moment! It's important to play relaxed with what you have, to risk at the moment you feel you should! In that way, gambling can be fun and every winning is like a cherry on the top!

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October 20, 2021, 03:29:55 AM
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I mean I do win against players, I can do it for a week, a month and even a year but I always lose to the house.

The rake and house wins, it’s like impossible to beat the house...
Unfortunately, house always takes advantage. The players are not always very skilled and often random people who are there just for fun, so it is often very easy to win with them, especially if you are an experienced player.
Well, as they say, the more time that you will spend on the house the more chances you will lose.
But for me --if you gamble just for fun there is nothing to worry about because you can limit yourself in your gambling session not to exceed beyond the limit. It is totally different when you gamble in a poker room than against in the house edge and I think there must an odds there that the chances of winning were controlled by them. And perhaps gambling was design not for earning profit or could be a source of income, it is just pure entertainment, if gambling casinos will always lose, they will perhaps bankrupt their business.

Yes, in this you are absolutely right, the house will always have the advantage, when it comes to poker when I play I always do it in a very short time, it is for that reason that if you want to bet a lot of money, sometimes some players have the highest bets. they do at the beginning, it is a strategy they use but it is not a guarantee that you will win it 100%.

When you play PVP poker things change, there you enter another game mode that obviously you have a better chance of winning if you are good at strategy, in fact many people have great talent for poker and usually they always end up winning tournaments or between the top 10.

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I don't recommend playing against the house. When playing online poker I just worry about them manipulating the game. I'm safer playing with real people.

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October 20, 2021, 09:07:06 AM
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~ Yes, in this you are absolutely right, the house will always have the advantage, when it comes to poker when I play I always do it in a very short time, it is for that reason that if you want to bet a lot of money, sometimes some players have the highest bets. they do at the beginning, it is a strategy they use but it is not a guarantee that you will win it 100%.


I would say even more: it's almost 100% that you'll lose all your money if you start playing high stakes or buy-ins, compared to your bankroll. It is considered that for beginners a good bankroll management strategy would be to have at least 50 buy-ins. Some sources suggest to have 100 buy-ins.

When you play PVP poker things change, there you enter another game mode that obviously you have a better chance of winning if you are good at strategy, in fact many people have great talent for poker and usually they always end up winning tournaments or between the top 10.

And even those people lose sometimes because partially poker depends on luck. That's why it's important to have many buy-ins(or big blinds, if you play cash games) to minimize the uncertainty.

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October 20, 2021, 02:26:49 PM
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I don't recommend playing against the house. When playing online poker I just worry about them manipulating the game. I'm safer playing with real people.
We can do many things to prevent those who will manipulate the game, such as always being careful placing the bet, setting a small amount to bet, and not staying playing the game for a long time because we do not know when we will lose or win.

Playing with real people can also give us the experience about getting manipulating the game. So both online or offline poker can be the same but as long as we can take care of ourselves, we do not have to worry about something bad that could happen to us.

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October 21, 2021, 07:42:56 AM
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I don't recommend playing against the house. When playing online poker I just worry about them manipulating the game. I'm safer playing with real people.
Even if casino is honest as it possible, playing against the house is like the playing chess against machine. It always count and analyze your style but you can`t do it the same time or may be you have to play for really long time against the one house. You can win but i don`t sure that you will get fun from the game.

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October 21, 2021, 10:09:54 AM
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I don't recommend playing against the house. When playing online poker I just worry about them manipulating the game. I'm safer playing with real people.
Even if casino is honest as it possible, playing against the house is like the playing chess against machine. It always count and analyze your style but you can`t do it the same time or may be you have to play for really long time against the one house.

Do they really count something and analyze your style? I know that AI poker bots like Pluribus are doing this, but in reality it's far from being cheap, so I really doubt that it can be profitable for a gambling site to use such a bot.

You can win but i don`t sure that you will get fun from the game.

Yes, it's not that hard to beat a simple poker bot, and you are right, there's little fun in that, but that's because it's a simple bot. I can assure you that playing against DeepStack, or Pluribus, isn't boring at all. I'd love to play against one of them, but, unfortunately, for regular folks like me, it will be possible only in the future.

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I don't recommend playing against the house. When playing online poker I just worry about them manipulating the game. I'm safer playing with real people.
Even if casino is honest as it possible, playing against the house is like the playing chess against machine. It always count and analyze your style but you can`t do it the same time or may be you have to play for really long time against the one house.

Do they really count something and analyze your style? I know that AI poker bots like Pluribus are doing this, but in reality it's far from being cheap, so I really doubt that it can be profitable for a gambling site to use such a bot.
Sometimes, if i want not to get fun but to win, or if someone annoys me i`m counting, but it kills fun. It looks like a work. And i have several friends, that earn playing poker. But this is too boring as for me.
You can win but i don`t sure that you will get fun from the game.

Yes, it's not that hard to beat a simple poker bot, and you are right, there's little fun in that, but that's because it's a simple bot. I can assure you that playing against DeepStack, or Pluribus, isn't boring at all. I'd love to play against one of them, but, unfortunately, for regular folks like me, it will be possible only in the future.
I haven`t played against such bots, may be it would be interesting, i can`t say nothing about it right now. If they are playing like human - it can be nice.

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Do they really count something and analyze your style? I know that AI poker bots like Pluribus are doing this, but in reality it's far from being cheap, so I really doubt that it can be profitable for a gambling site to use such a bot.
Sometimes, if i want not to get fun but to win, or if someone annoys me i`m counting, but it kills fun. It looks like a work.

The worst part of this whole situation with bots on poker sites is that they are playing only very low stakes. Not only playing against them feels like working, but it's also a poorly paid work, and that's what's annoying.


And i have several friends, that earn playing poker. But this is too boring as for me.

Like I said above, earning good money can't be boring. You find it boring not because it's too easy, but rather because it's not that rewarding, right? Smiley

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October 26, 2021, 11:17:45 AM
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I don't recommend playing against the house. When playing online poker I just worry about them manipulating the game. I'm safer playing with real people.
Poker is a Mind and Reading game in which best to play in real life that's why I don't really love playing online though since pandemic happens i spend some Money and time playing because of No choice at all.

But now we can play with friends so Yes i stop dealing against Room and enjoying with real People .

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