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Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.
As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.
Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right. As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent? I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff. I think that's not smart if they will have a contract for their agreement to rig the fight. Probably it's just a verbal agreement as a contract can be used to file a legal complaint and that is not good for a boxing exhibition that might only make it transparent to people how they cook it.
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December 01, 2021, 07:12:17 AM |
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Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.
As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.
Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right. As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent? I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff. No doubt this is an exhibition fight but the rules of the boxing should remain the same and should not be altered. Also there should be no understanding of who will win and who will lose. The match should be natural as only then the audience will be interested to watch the match.
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December 01, 2021, 02:17:47 PM |
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As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent?
Not exactly like that, but I have a feeling, that there is a clause saying "not to kill your opponent". This fight is about entertainment. To let people have a good evening, and not scan kill-kill-kill in the venue. Look at Logans past. Where he did such huge popularity from. His army of fans probably are kids and teenagers. I dont think that parents and organizers will allow to see how their celebrity is being brutally knockout or even injured. I am pretty sure there is a approximate scenario of their fight. Logan do maximum to defense, Mike tries not to knockout cold Logan. Some knockdowns or liver punches will more than enough to show that professional boxer, even in his late age, is still cool, and a talented guy can survive some rounds against the beast. That is it.
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December 01, 2021, 02:26:21 PM |
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Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.
As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.
Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right. As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent? I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff. I feel sure it will be like this because indeed a match like this is not only to show who is strong because technically it has been seen who is a boxer and who is an amateur here. on the other hand, things like this are just entertainment to make boxing lovers quench their thirst, I think. regardless of what scenario there is something like this is not too important because it is already seen who will win in this match. there is a second option if there is something that is indeed profitable, namely by making them a draw like in the mayweather vs logan exhibition some time ago. It won't be far like this.
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December 01, 2021, 05:15:32 PM |
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As a boxing fan I both considered the ability of the fighter, skills, experiences and records of his fights and also the age of the fighter. It is undeniable that once a fighter has age it also slows downs his speed and lessen the strength which should a fighter must contain a high power and high strength to be able to win in the fight. I didn't say that Tyson is not a good fighter because if we were going to base on his records this man has an exceptional fight experience, however many bettors were concerning about his age.
Yes, I understand you. What you said is undeniable, when human beings get old it is normal for them to lose their agility, flexibility, among other things, after all, this happens to all of us (humans). It's almost certain that a 20 or 25 year old fighter can be faster than Tyson, I have no doubts, but experience and technique are important factors too! I believe the only attribute that he is likely to decrease gradually (not as fast as aging) but is the skill/experience of the player/fighter. (Of course, this is something relative) I would think that Tyson would lose against a professional boxer, but against Logan Paul? I highly doubt that because the latter has no professional boxing experience, so he does not train hard like Tyson did when he was still active, with that said, I think Tyson would win without a question, but not sure if the KO will come since an exhibition fight might have some stipulation inside the contact that we don't know. Indeed, infact Logan has no chance in this fight at all, I know it's about money and all for Logan but I really don't know what he's thinking that he's so blunt about this fight. He will going to really lose his face after this match, I can already imagine it. I'm sure this match is much more entertaining to see than Floyd vs Logan, because maybe Mike is going to show some hard blows and make Logan fall in his knees
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December 01, 2021, 08:19:59 PM |
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As a boxing fan I both considered the ability of the fighter, skills, experiences and records of his fights and also the age of the fighter. It is undeniable that once a fighter has age it also slows downs his speed and lessen the strength which should a fighter must contain a high power and high strength to be able to win in the fight. I didn't say that Tyson is not a good fighter because if we were going to base on his records this man has an exceptional fight experience, however many bettors were concerning about his age.
Yes, I understand you. What you said is undeniable, when human beings get old it is normal for them to lose their agility, flexibility, among other things, after all, this happens to all of us (humans). It's almost certain that a 20 or 25 year old fighter can be faster than Tyson, I have no doubts, but experience and technique are important factors too! I believe the only attribute that he is likely to decrease gradually (not as fast as aging) but is the skill/experience of the player/fighter. (Of course, this is something relative) I would think that Tyson would lose against a professional boxer, but against Logan Paul? I highly doubt that because the latter has no professional boxing experience, so he does not train hard like Tyson did when he was still active, with that said, I think Tyson would win without a question, but not sure if the KO will come since an exhibition fight might have some stipulation inside the contact that we don't know. Indeed, infact Logan has no chance in this fight at all, I know it's about money and all for Logan but I really don't know what he's thinking that he's so blunt about this fight. He will going to really lose his face after this match, I can already imagine it. I'm sure this match is much more entertaining to see than Floyd vs Logan, because maybe Mike is going to show some hard blows and make Logan fall in his knees We don't know if MIke would do it or would just simply not to finish off the fight quickly yet exhibition should be entertaining and wont be something a quickly finished off kind of fight.Of course they would be thinking that it should pays off on fans ticket. Paul Brothers are always trying to make things in hype because they do know that the more attention that they would draw then its means its more money. So im not really surprised on how these matches been arranged and im not really surprised about the seriousness of this fights.
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Is this match will come true or only just a speculation? Though we all know that Logan Paul fights exhibition matches to anyone including Mayweather but it's different with Mike Tyson, we know that the old man is very competitive and won't allow anyone to defeat him. We are sure that that Tyson will defeat him but we don't know what would be the casualty.
As the name suggests, this is just an exhibition fight. Mike Tyson should be able to defeat Paul Logan in minutes even at this age. However, we do not really know if it will be a real fight, or if they agreed in advance that they would fight so as not to hurt themselves, and in the end it will be a draw. I had not contemplated this option, a possible tie may be the best solution and with that they are all good and happy, although I say something Mayweather and any other fighter cannot be compared with Mike Tyson, although despite everything I know that Tyson is a Gentleman above all and he respects, the logical thing would be that they could be in a tie, but it is only a theory, at the sporting level everything is possible, in boxing anything can happen, besides Tyson it is understood that he would undoubtedly be the winner.
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I had not contemplated this option, a possible tie may be the best solution and with that they are all good and happy, although I say something Mayweather and any other fighter cannot be compared with Mike Tyson, although despite everything I know that Tyson is a Gentleman above all and he respects, the logical thing would be that they could be in a tie, but it is only a theory, at the sporting level everything is possible, in boxing anything can happen, besides Tyson it is understood that he would undoubtedly be the winner.
Mike Tyson has definitely seemed to mellow as time goes on, but I don't think he's the greatest example of being a gentleman. Hes definitely done questionable things inside, and outside the ring. I mean, the obvious example is the biting incident, which was publicly witnessed by thousands of people, although I believe there's been other controversies outside the ring too. Not sure what your trying to say. Yeah, anything in sport can happen, however it's incredibly unlikely that Logan wins. The only way he's winning in my eyes is through volume though judging by his previous fights that's not his strongest area. Not exactly like that, but I have a feeling, that there is a clause saying "not to kill your opponent". This fight is about entertainment. To let people have a good evening, and not scan kill-kill-kill in the venue.
Look at Logans past. Where he did such huge popularity from. His army of fans probably are kids and teenagers. I dont think that parents and organizers will allow to see how their celebrity is being brutally knockout or even injured. I am pretty sure there is a approximate scenario of their fight. Logan do maximum to defense, Mike tries not to knockout cold Logan. Some knockdowns or liver punches will more than enough to show that professional boxer, even in his late age, is still cool, and a talented guy can survive some rounds against the beast. That is it.
I hate to say it, but I do think boxing is more about the entertainment rather than the actual competition, and while I would normally wave away such allegations of match fixing or certain terms being put in the contract, I actually think boxing has been questionable at best in several fights. I've seen clear dives, where the punch didn't even touch the downed opponent. The only other possible explanation would be fear. Its white collar boxing he probably won't be the last person to jump into boxing who has a huge following, without actually training in boxing for long.
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December 01, 2021, 10:58:48 PM |
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Is this match will come true or only just a speculation? Though we all know that Logan Paul fights exhibition matches to anyone including Mayweather but it's different with Mike Tyson, we know that the old man is very competitive and won't allow anyone to defeat him. We are sure that that Tyson will defeat him but we don't know what would be the casualty.
As the name suggests, this is just an exhibition fight. Mike Tyson should be able to defeat Paul Logan in minutes even at this age. However, we do not really know if it will be a real fight, or if they agreed in advance that they would fight so as not to hurt themselves, and in the end it will be a draw. I had not contemplated this option, a possible tie may be the best solution and with that they are all good and happy, although I say something Mayweather and any other fighter cannot be compared with Mike Tyson, although despite everything I know that Tyson is a Gentleman above all and he respects, the logical thing would be that they could be in a tie, but it is only a theory, at the sporting level everything is possible, in boxing anything can happen, besides Tyson it is understood that he would undoubtedly be the winner. A tie or a draw is possible, and the odds are relatively high for this kind of result, so if you can choose a winner which I think you will bet on Tyson, also try to put a bet on the draw just in case it will turn out to be a close fight and the judges will score it as draw.
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Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.
As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.
Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right. As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent? I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff. There is a possibility that things like that are in their contract, after all the whole purpose of a match like this is to offer some entertainment to the public, and even if there is nothing on the contract about that it is likely they have some agreement between the parts about the minimum amount of rounds the fight should last and in the case one of the boxers is in trouble the other will help out by simply not going for the KO, so with this in mind it is obvious it makes no sense to bet at all in these kind of fights.
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There's no draw odds for this fight likely to become available just like his brothers fight isnt showing any draw odds right now. Dec 19th I think that is, we missed our chance on the draw bets because its become too obvious these results aren't exactly free reign in their outcome and draw is the most probable outcome appears like. We all know that's ridiculous but a fight in 2021 is a long way from the Tyson or any fight outcome from 1987 era etc.
Lol. That says a lot about how "serious" the fight will be. A bet on a less probable event is not accepted as it is more likely to occur If such situations arise in ordinary sports, bookmakers cancel bets as there is a suspicion of a fixed match. Oh... Hopefully the writers of this fight will be creative enough that the audience will enjoy it even knowing the outcome in advance.
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December 03, 2021, 06:48:57 AM |
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Oh... Hopefully the writers of this fight will be creative enough that the audience will enjoy it even knowing the outcome in advance.
They will always be creative, the reason why the hype is still on for exhibition fights is because of the good writer who writes the script very well. This is certainly a scripted fight to protect Logan Paul, because if not, Tyson will destroy him and probably we will see a big knockout in this fight.
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December 03, 2021, 08:20:21 AM |
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They will always be creative, the reason why the hype is still on for exhibition fights is because of the good writer who writes the script very well. This is certainly a scripted fight to protect Logan Paul, because if not, Tyson will destroy him and probably we will see a big knockout in this fight.
If it's a real fight and if pride is the real reason aside from the money that Tyson will possibly to bank, Logan Paul will end his career inside the hospital. We know how rascal Tyson was. He always wanted to bring his opponent down and not just to win but to send them to end their careers But exhibition fight always has that limitation and the first thing is the health of each fighter. We may see some combos, but not that hard as how Mike throws those punches when he fights a real one.
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December 03, 2021, 08:33:40 AM |
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They will always be creative, the reason why the hype is still on for exhibition fights is because of the good writer who writes the script very well. This is certainly a scripted fight to protect Logan Paul, because if not, Tyson will destroy him and probably we will see a big knockout in this fight.
It's not writers but more like publicists and promoters, that's why the hype is really good with exhibition fights. I wouldn't necessarily say that it's a scripted fight since both sides would probably go all out although it's in the discretion of the fighters and their coaches whether they should put everything in it especially with Tyson, I think that he will want a showmanship rather than a show of power because honestly this fight won't last for about 1 round if Tyson punches like he was in his prime.
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December 03, 2021, 02:45:37 PM |
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Oh... Hopefully the writers of this fight will be creative enough that the audience will enjoy it even knowing the outcome in advance.
They will always be creative, the reason why the hype is still on for exhibition fights is because of the good writer who writes the script very well. This is certainly a scripted fight to protect Logan Paul, because if not, Tyson will destroy him and probably we will see a big knockout in this fight. In a sense, this is good - a person pays money and in return gets a guaranteed show - performances of various famous artists, a fight in words, then a fight in the ring (which is guaranteed to last all rounds). It looks more attractive than waiting for an epic fight for a whole year, and then seeing a knockout in the first round (as is often the case in professional boxing).
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December 03, 2021, 03:34:06 PM |
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Oh... Hopefully the writers of this fight will be creative enough that the audience will enjoy it even knowing the outcome in advance.
They will always be creative, the reason why the hype is still on for exhibition fights is because of the good writer who writes the script very well. This is certainly a scripted fight to protect Logan Paul, because if not, Tyson will destroy him and probably we will see a big knockout in this fight. In a sense, this is good - a person pays money and in return gets a guaranteed show - performances of various famous artists, a fight in words, then a fight in the ring (which is guaranteed to last all rounds). It looks more attractive than waiting for an epic fight for a whole year, and then seeing a knockout in the first round (as is often the case in professional boxing). Hm, I wonder if you as a boxer can always control whether you know the other person out quickly or not? I mean there is always some speed and power involved in those hits, you can't just box like a little girl hoping anyone is going to enjoy it when the opponent is Logan Paul. I can see a very real chance for Tyson to hit Paul with medium strength and it could still be enough to take him down even though it was not intended to happen. One thing is for sure: these guys are making shit loads of money with these fights.
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December 03, 2021, 03:41:12 PM |
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Oh... Hopefully the writers of this fight will be creative enough that the audience will enjoy it even knowing the outcome in advance.
They will always be creative, the reason why the hype is still on for exhibition fights is because of the good writer who writes the script very well. This is certainly a scripted fight to protect Logan Paul, because if not, Tyson will destroy him and probably we will see a big knockout in this fight. In a sense, this is good - a person pays money and in return gets a guaranteed show - performances of various famous artists, a fight in words, then a fight in the ring (which is guaranteed to last all rounds). It looks more attractive than waiting for an epic fight for a whole year, and then seeing a knockout in the first round (as is often the case in professional boxing). Hm, I wonder if you as a boxer can always control whether you know the other person out quickly or not? I mean there is always some speed and power involved in those hits, you can't just box like a little girl hoping anyone is going to enjoy it when the opponent is Logan Paul. I can see a very real chance for Tyson to hit Paul with medium strength and it could still be enough to take him down even though it was not intended to happen. One thing is for sure: these guys are making shit loads of money with these fights. Regardless of the motive behind the potential match and even at his advanced age, Tyson will beat the shit out of Logan Paul. The only evidence to prove that Tyson is past his prime is if Logan wins. You also can't call rigged because Tyson would never take a fall. He is too proud for that. Mike is fierce, you can tell by how everyone acts differently around him in interviews.
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December 03, 2021, 04:08:26 PM |
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I think that's not smart if they will have a contract for their agreement to rig the fight. Probably it's just a verbal agreement as a contract can be used to file a legal complaint and that is not good for a boxing exhibition that might only make it transparent to people how they cook it.
It would certainly be a disgrace for a fighter if they made a contract like this. But on the other hand as people have said before, This is an exhibition and there must be something going on there. Even if there are no rules, I'm sure they will play happily and not kill each other in the ring
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December 03, 2021, 05:09:40 PM |
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It wont be a disgrace. As an exhibition fight, it wont go into record and in time people will forget about this scripted match. Also no one would complain if they saw its is scripted. Organizers promised show - spectators got it. Spectators wanted to see their idols - they got it. Besides, they can do exhibition match rules like in a fight Logan vs Floyd: There will be no judges for the exhibition + No official winner will be read at the end of the match.. Just step into the ring, marathon every round and you are not a loser
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December 03, 2021, 07:59:17 PM |
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It wont be a disgrace. As an exhibition fight, it wont go into record and in time people will forget about this scripted match. Also no one would complain if they saw its is scripted. Organizers promised show - spectators got it. Spectators wanted to see their idols - they got it. Besides, they can do exhibition match rules like in a fight Logan vs Floyd: There will be no judges for the exhibition + No official winner will be read at the end of the match.. Just step into the ring, marathon every round and you are not a loser Exhibition is never considered to be official on the first place and if someone is offered for them to play inside the ring then they do automatically knows that they wont lose nothing even if they would lose out on the fight literally.Its not official and they just need to follow on whats an exhibition is all about which is pure entertainment but with some pride and ego then as a boxer then you wouldnt really let yourself lose into someone which isnt level on your skills and experience specially on a sports where you do specialized on.
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